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10484506 No.10484506 [Reply] [Original]

So am I better off playing the OG?

>> No.10484683

please talk about video games with me...

>> No.10484691

>>10484506
Yes. This is a shitty bait and switch bootleg version made in unity.
Everything is off. Retards like gmanlives didnt even realize its not quake 2 engine anymore, but its easy to tell that its just unity appstore scripts and assets thrown together with the original models.

>> No.10484928

yea just PCGW the original.
even if they patch it, the new textures are total garbage and the new UI elements dont even look like theyre from the same game. only played for a half hour so i dont know if they cleaned up some of the more obtuse aspects of the original, but judging from the product as a whole i doubt thats the case.

>> No.10484936

>>10484506
Looking at steam reviews, it seems real bad.
>>10484691
Looking at the community hub, it's not Unity but it's also not Quake 2.

>> No.10484998

>>10484936
It's unity with a custom frontend. They said so themselves.

https://twitter.com/Freschism/status/1732002638470730119

>> No.10485046

They seem to be at least aware of peoples complaints but this seems a bit unsalvageable to be honest. I was planning on buying this but I think I'll just go with the original+the community patch. I don't mind paying for a GOOD remaster/make but I really do not want to support the shitty ones.

>> No.10485065

>>10484998
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1224700/discussions/0/4030222029791801375/#c4030222029791836852
Maybe i'm misunderstanding. I took this as they're doing what Doom remaster did, it uses Unity but it's not really being rendered in Unity. Probably just for portability with consoles?
Kind of like how EmuVR may be in Unity, but it's still retroarch, they're just plastering it on a texture or something
Please correct me if im wrong, i've been seeing so many "this game uses 2 engines" and it sounds weird to me

>> No.10485067

>>10484998
>>10485046
>The source code for KP had been lost, which meant that Robert, essentially wrote a new engine, sandwiched between Unity and the original game, in order to reverse engineer and interpret the entire original game
Zamn, it was doomed from the start

>> No.10485072

>>10485065
No, it's just the original game assets in unity, that's why all movement, jumping, shooting, etc is off.
Whatever bullshit narrative they're constructing around this is wrong. The ai is also glitched out and runs in circles. This wouldnt happen if it was just a custom visual wrapper over the original.

>> No.10485393

>>10485067
Did Fred mentioned years ago that he had the full source?
Or the retards at Slipgate preferred to not use it?
https://twitter.com/Freschism/status/458908760975876097

>> No.10485431

>>10484506
>hitscan enemies that have no stun states on max difficulty
yep its dogshit gameplay time.

>> No.10485586

>>10484506
Is it out yet?

>>10484691
Not Unity. If you don't like it then that's fine, but don't spread lies.

>> No.10485617

>>10485586
>Not Unity. If you don't like it then that's fine, but don't spread lies.
It's unity you fucking clown.

https://twitter.com/Freschism/status/1732002638470730119

>> No.10485628

>>10485586
HAHAHAH look at that obvious shill.
Starting with feigning ignorance if the game is out yet but then suddenly knows "it's not unity" based on some complicated excuse fred made on the release tweet.

Fuckin hell.
Probably fred himself considering he just deleted this tweet
>>10485393
where he claimed he had the original source code.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141013040740/https://twitter.com/freschism/status/458908760975876097

Good thing it was archived.

>> No.10485647

>>10485617
He wrote a new engine. It's NOT Unity. He says that right there in the post that you linked.

You literally just disproved yourself. That is some next level self-clowning.

>> No.10485649

>>10485628
Nope, not Unity. Deal with it.

>> No.10485663

>>10485647
>>10485649
No, it uses unity you fucking retard damage control shill.

Fred said:
>The source code for KP had been lost, which meant that Robert, essentially wrote a new engine, sandwiched between Unity and the original game,
https://twitter.com/Freschism/status/1732002638470730119

The keyword being "essentially", he is making the claim he used unity to "write a new engine" instead of the Q2 engine.
The game runs in unity.
And in the end it doesn't even matter, because the game is broken beyond repair now. So maybe he should've not written his own non functional engine in combination with unity but just used the quake 2 engine instead, huh? Because that one is open source after all.

>> No.10485792

>>10485663
so, not Unity?