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>Latest Updates
New firmware - lol it's called golem
https://www.patreon.com/posts/introducing-fpga-93831629

>What is MiSTer?
MiSTer is an open project that aims to recreate various classic computers, game consoles and arcade machines, using modern hardware. It allows software and game images to run as they would on original hardware, using peripherals such as mice, keyboards, joysticks and other game controllers.

>Wiki
Dumb question department
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Wiki_MiSTer/wiki

>> No.10472697
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10472697

Do we really need another one of these threads?

>> No.10472705

>>10472697
It's cool when anons are actually talking about FPGAtech, it's a shame about all the sourgrapers who come to try and ruin them, but I usually learn a thing or two. Like this post >>10472109 was pretty informative.

>> No.10472787

Does anyone actually own one of these things, if you do then what do you actually use it for
It feels like these threads are one guy arguing with himself and making the same posts over and over

>> No.10472806

>>10472705
It's also cool when mister fags don't immediately attack you for being skeptical, because the mister has been a jumbling mess and it's only saving grace is the N64 emulator. But, with the advent of the N64 you just invited all the nintoddlers into your fold, where the PlayStation can't play. Have fun chumming it up with bing Bing wahooers and oot-aid drinkers.

>> No.10472823

>>10472787
I don't use it for 6th gen but I use it for everything else. I'd prefer original consoles but that's a hassle so I keep them in the attic and it's nice having all my ROMs in one place.

>> No.10472827

So they recently updated the Mega Drive core. If mister is perfect and just the same as a real Mega Drive, why did the core need to be updated? How did it become more Mega Drivey than the previous "perfect and just the same as a real Mega Drive" core?

>> No.10472839

FGPA Everdrive>Steam Deck>>Aya Neo pro>>Aya Neo Air>Recalbox>Ayn Loki Max>>Asus ROG Ally>KTR-1>>Retroid Pocket 3/3+>>>Anbernic RG552>Ayn Loki>>>Odroid>>Raspberry Pi>Homebrewed and CFW-injected PS Vita>>Powkiddy A13>Powkiddy X28>>Caanoo>>Lakka>Aya Neo regular>RP2S>Ayn Odin 2>>Miyoo Mini Flip>Miyoo Mini +>Trimui Smart Pro>Powkiddy A12>Anbernic RG505>Ayn Odin>Powkiddy X18S>Powkiddy RK2023>Anbernic351p>>Retroid Pocket 2/2+>>Hacked and CFW injected 3DS>Powkiddy RGB 30MAX>>Miyoo Mini>>Lakka>>>Game Park 32>Powkiddy q80>Anbernic 353v>>Anbernic RG35XX>>CFW-injected PSP>Revo k101>Retroid pocket 1>>Minisforum>Playdate>Dingoo 330>>Powkiddy RGB 10 Max>Dingoo 320>Powkiddy RGB 20S>>Analouge Pocket>Playdate>Data Frog SF2000>Dingoo 380>Powkiddy q80>Gamebox SP>Anbernic RG 405m>Powkiddy v90>Powkiddy q20>Bactocera>>Evercade>Coolboy rs-97+>BittBoy>>RG300X>Pirate multicart>>MiSTER>>Retroid Flip>Poly Mega>Powkiddy a66>>Coolboy rs-97

>> No.10472843

>>10472827
Has been said a million times alreqdy but MiSTer isn't perfect. It's just easier to make things more accurate in FPGA but it doesn't mean it'll automatically be.

>> No.10472853

>>10472787
A lot of people around here do. Maybe you don't actually go on MiSTer threads that often. There's one guy who's immensely butthurt about it though and spams them with the same uninformed nonsense points everytime until they reach bump limit, then declares "victory". Quite sad and pathetic.

>> No.10472865

>>10472853
>There's one guy who's immensely butthurt
Remember, he does it free. Whereas MiSTer chads get paid the big bucks by BIG MiSTer.

>> No.10473001

>>10472787
I own one and I take it to locals to supplement the NeoGeo and CPS1/CPS2 lineup of games we don't have a PCB or cartridge for. At home, I mostly play PC Engine shooters.

>> No.10473074

>>10472827
There are still functions that aren't fully understood in order for the FPGA implementation to work as intended. This is the beauty of FPGA though as it only requires an updated core instead of buying a new PCB.

>> No.10473079

>>10473001
What kind of joysticks do you use? Genuinely curious

>> No.10473091

>>10472843
That’s not stated enough. It takes real people to actually put in a lot of work to implement an fpga core. I definitely was under the impression that it just works with everything up to 5th gen perfectly cycle accurate from the get go. I got that impression from these threads though. Not from browsing them but just glancing at posts in passing. And the “cycle accurate core” phrase seemed to catch my eye one too many times, I guess. It’s not just me though, a lot of people had/have the same idea. It feels like that’s what was being proposed.

>> No.10473094

>>10473079
I have two EternalRival sticks, an 18" AFS, they all use Sanwa and the Sega2P layout.

>> No.10473101

>>10473094
The Eternal Rival sticks have the Brook Retro Fighting Board with several console cables each and the AFS has a Universal Fighting Board.

>> No.10473102

>>10473094
Those are pretty slick. cool

>> No.10473112

>>10473091
>everything up to 5th gen perfectly cycle accurate from the get go
The bait evolves, currently it centres around a MiSTer costing 615 gorillion dollars. You'll never hear this from those of us who own one, because we actually follow the updates. It's just false flagging from people who are clearly unhappy with their set up.

>> No.10473118

Mike Matei uses one of these, also owns a legit copy of Sapphire for the PC engine

>> No.10473249

You know which core turned out surprisingly good is the c128 core, I think it's more accurate than the c64 core is.

>> No.10473259

>>10473249
That's weird, the C64 portion of the computer is lifted directly from the C64 core and the dev copies updates from there to C128 core.

>> No.10473260

>>10472690
Still trying to sell your $615 trash? Business must be really slow, huh?

>>10472697
He's trolling, doing it for attention.

>> No.10473262

>>10472787
It's true, I do argue with myself. I'm bored, lonely, seeking attention.

>> No.10473268

>>10472865
You misspelled Chuds and "paid slave wages".

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>>10473112
The $615 price tag is not a false flag.

>> No.10473285

>>10472690
>What is MiSTer?
You should say what it really is. Overpriced glitchy emulation. My old laptop is better than Mister and comes with a built in screen.

>> No.10473320

>>10472690
>What if Raspberry Pi for emulation but quadruple the price?

>> No.10473356

Wow, the troll has resorted to samefagging now...

>> No.10473362

>>10473356
Pretty much

>> No.10473364

>>10473356
I'm pretty sure OP and the 1st post are the same person.

>> No.10473371

>>10473356
It appears that janitors do not even bother entering these threads anymore.

>> No.10473378

>golem
So from what I can understand, the only real point of this is lumping all your games in one big folder instead of just switching core first? Sounds fucking retarded. The current FW is already insanely user friendly.

>> No.10473430

>>10473285
why must you lie to yourself

>> No.10473727

>>10472787
I got one and got it around 2021. I dont use it as much as I would like but all last month I was using it to play all the Castlevania games I've never beaten before Holloween. I'm waiting for the N64 core to go public, since I got some games I would like to play again.

My reasoning is because I'd rather play on my couch with my big TV and my computer has some bad input lag if I plug it into my TV for some reason, so emulator's were out.

>> No.10473742

>>10473378
I'd be OK with box art and manuals but I already have my game folders sorted by console with the fav script. One big list would be annoyng even if it's sortable.

>> No.10473749

>>10473727
This is one of the things I enjoy about the mister, is playing GBA games on my couch using my tv with a LCD shadow mask on it. It's extremely comfy.

>> No.10473754

>>10472690
I'll eventually jump on the fpga bandwagon but I'm in no hurry. Gonna wait for mars release and see how it compares to mister.

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10473771

Why is this guy talking to himself again

>> No.10473789

>>10473749
Funnily enough 2 of the Castlevania games were CotM and an Aria rom hack. I agree with playing GBA on tv. I've never like playing on handhelds.

>> No.10473801 [DELETED] 

Is mister a trans icon?

>> No.10473894

>>10473378
It's retarded, the game menu script already does that.

>> No.10474205 [DELETED] 

>>10473801
Yes

>> No.10474209

>be playing Medal of Honor on the PS1 core
>level design is beautiful
>the scripted events are nice and make it feel like an arcade shooting gallery
>look at multiplayer
>no bots
Is this a bug on the MiSTer or does that happen on the hardware too?

>> No.10474228

>>10474209
>core
Just another word for emulator

>> No.10474249

>>10474228
Well, sure, but Retroarch is actually the group that uses the term "core" to refer to a compiled emulator. An FPGA core differs in that it actually reprograms the FPGA board to behave like the intended hardware. So you're (inadvertently) not wrong but I know what you meant.

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10474279

>3/4 of the thread is a samefagging phoneposter
I thought /vr/ was supposed to be less ruined than /v/

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10474284

Your daily reminder that all MiSTer haters are basement dwelling, Canadian tryhards who can't stand the idea that the Xbox Series X isn't the be all, end all, of gaming. Reminder they also think you just require an 8 dollar cable that rapes the output of every 5th gen when converting to HDMI, to have a good experience with your Childhood games.

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>>10474279

Sorry chud, I have shit to do around my house so I post from my phone and only check this shit tier thread when I am taking a shit. So you will have to enjoy the phoneposting.

Also I'm not the person who wrote that.

>> No.10474292 [DELETED] 

Is the mister an icon of the trans community ?

>> No.10474297

>>10474284
Worse, they're south americans

>> No.10474298

We are now on day 2 of this thread and the chronotrigger guy has still not showed up with those hilarious webms

>> No.10474330

>>10473262
I'm not surprised

>> No.10474363

>>10473274
Holy shit, I would never pay that much just to play old games.

>> No.10474398

>>10474363
For some retro collectors this is just pennies

>> No.10474407

Can someone explain why people are so butthurt about FPGA hardware replication?

>> No.10474417

>>10474407
People fear things they don't understand and start acting aggressively. Basic psychology.

>> No.10474419

>>10474407
People take a lot of pride in their ostensibly free solution being just as good as or better than paid solutions, so any suggestion that a paid solution may have certain advantages is met with extreme hostility.
Basically cheap, poor people don't want to be told they are missing out.

>> No.10474423

>>10474398
The only people who could make that claim are millionaires and billionaires. No retro collector on this board are either one.

>> No.10474436

>>10474407
No one's butthurt. Financially responsible people just wouldn't waste money on such garbage overpriced pieces of tech. Hence why I would never buy from ANALogue, when I could get the same experience with original hardware for less. And since I own the majority of retro consoles, I have no need for a MiSTer either.

>>10474417
>>10474419
Shills detected. Only stupid people pay for overpriced hardware.

>> No.10474437

>>10474423
Not even the marbletop anon?

>> No.10474441

>>10474407
some possible reasons:

A. they hate the idea that there is a new kid on the block
B. they hate the financial barrier of entry required to enjoy FPGA emulation
C. they think it's another retropie box but don't bother to inform themselves
D. they are depressed and need a (You) for endorphins

>> No.10474452

>>10474363
Poorfags, my real hardware setups cost several times as much together.

>> No.10474459

>>10474363
You can put a build together for half that price.

>> No.10474469

>>10474441
Or option

E. None of the above. They're just financially responsible and won't waste a penny on that garbage whether it's ANALog or MiSTer.

>> No.10474471

>>10474436
When I was 20, I made 200 bucks a day, netto.
Even with bills, rent, food and other things like my car, I still would have had more than enough disposable income to buy several MiSTers a month.

I don't own one, but I don't see how spending on something that you enjoy is "financially irresponsible".

>> No.10474481

>>10474471
you're arguing with a disengenious troll, retard. how the fuck can you browse this thread and see all the similar posts and then continue taking the bait

>> No.10474491

>>10474452
My Gaming PC cost more than whatever real hardware set up you have. I can find NES's, Genesis's and SNES's for next to nothing($5 or less) at a thrift store. You ain't rich bro.

>>10474459
Probably, but I rather build a new gaming PC.

>> No.10474523

>>10474471
I wouldn't find myself enjoying a MiSTer, but I do enjoy my consoles, but these are consoles I bought or owned from childhood and into my late teens/adult years. Now I own a house, a car, married to a beautiful blonde woman, I have two kids with her, I'm financially responsible and don't see any value in any FPGA devices.

>>10474481
You're the only disengenious troll here.

>> No.10474528

>>10473260
OP must have mental issues. No one in the right mind would make these threads continuously. He's doing it to bait people into a flamewar.

>> No.10474545

>>10474523
>I wouldn't find myself enjoying a MiSTer
No one cares, fuck off.

>> No.10474547

>>10474491
>My Gaming PC
Post it

>> No.10474556

>>10474436
>>10474469
>Only stupid people pay for overpriced hardware.
>They're just financially responsible
This is LARP for "I'm poor/broke irl and need to pretend I have the moral high ground"

>> No.10474562

>falling for bait general
every time

>> No.10474567

>>10474523
MiSTer is great and costs pennies compared to maintaining and buying hardware for old systems.
A Amiga or Falcon system with a bunch of rare accelerators and expansions alone would more than 5 times as much as the MiSTer itself.

>> No.10474573

>>10474567
Serious question: why would you buy a Falcon? It was a cool hardware, sure, but wouldn't you be better off with a regular ST or STe computer?

>> No.10474629

>>10473274
Yeah, fuck mister liers. Thats sll jt ever is "ohh gee guys it's not like that at all, please believe me and don't do independent research"

>> No.10474650

>>10474629
>independent research
this would imply that you understand the pricing and the options you have for building one yourself.

>> No.10474796

>>10472690
> I've completely rewritten the application logic, FPGA logic, input system(s), startup, menus, OSD, and more in Rust

Keep your trans OS. It’s MiSTeR for me

>> No.10474804

>>10472690
> The aim of GoLEm is to create a more accessible and less complicated gaming experience that anyone can easily use and enjoy.
the fuck?

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>>10474547
Here it is. Complete with a cool case, a Blu-Ray drive, a media dashboard that allows me to connect multiple devices including SATA hard drives. I love what I built.

>> No.10475125

>>10475078
>massive garish window
>cool
No. BD is a waste of time, same with the cheap expansion thing you've got there, most of your drives should be internal anyway, if you need more than 6 you should just get a NAS.

>> No.10475134

>>10475078
Cringe.

>> No.10475139

>>10474436
>why would you buy a Lexus when a Toyota pickup can do more and costs less

>> No.10475143

>>10474298
Wow he really got to you. Maybe you need to take a break from the Internet for a while.

>> No.10475152

>>10474573
It was cool hardware.

>but wouldn't you be better off with a regular ST or STe computer?
You can have both.

>> No.10475164

>>10475125
The Window helps display the green led light fans I have inside. BD is necesssary since I have tons of blu ray disc games and movies I can back up on my internal hard drives. I love the option of using these USB ports, won't need them all but it makes it easier to connect my controllers, keyboard, and mouse on the front instead of the back.

>>10475134
To poorfags like you. But to me it's based because not only is it my first Gaming PC, but my final game console that reminds me if the cool futuristic style of the original Xbox and a Sega Genesis.

>> No.10475172

I'm playing GoldenEye on the core and I didn't remember the game being so fucking hard on 00 Agent, mostly I can't aim for shit since the auto aim is worthless on hardet difficulties. Any tips?

>> No.10475192

>>10474523
>>10475164
>first gaming PC
How old are you??

>> No.10475197

>>10475172
Play on original console. You can thank me later.

>> No.10475205

>>10475192
41, I was very resistent towards gaming on the PC, I wanted to wait until I had no real reason to buy newer consoles. Let's just say Shenmue 3 was my last reason to buy a new console.

>> No.10475213

>>10475192
He's 12. You can tell by the case.

>> No.10475221

>>10475205
>Shenmue 3
But it's on PC

>> No.10475281

>>10475213
What 12-year-old do you know plays Shenmue 3?

>>10475221
I know, but I wanted Shenmue 3 on a console disc rather then digitally downloading with a code via Epic Games Store.

>> No.10475295 [DELETED] 

>>10473771
Mister, 1cc, 8bitdo threads should all be avoided.

>> No.10475326

>>10475078
Just where did you get that garish case? From the toys section of Circuit City in 2005?

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>>10475326
you should look at the cases from MY DIY PC. it's the modern equivalent of those "radical" PC cases from the later 2000's. I actually wish people made these kinda cases for the MiSTer but I guess everyone wants something sleek and minimalist.

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>>10475412
Imagine something like this case for the Raspberry Pi but for the MiSTer? I would settle for this.

>> No.10475437

>>10475326
Amazon actually. I wanted a case that didn't look like a regular soulless PC case. I wanted something more high-tech looking or alien-like.

>> No.10475445

>>10475412
>>10475418
These cases don't look as cool or stylish as mine does... --> >>10475078

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>>10475418
I think Raspberry Pi gets all of these interesting cases because the board is cheap, ready to use out of the box, and is accessible for any dumb little project. Sadly, the DE-10 Nano they used for the MiSTer is only good for educational projects so it's not as visible to the mainstream.

>> No.10475457

>>10475281
I played Shenmue when I was 13

>> No.10475482

>>10475457
I played Shenmue when I was 19 on a Dreamcast in 2001.

>> No.10475493

>>10475446
If MiSTer had these type of cases, I'd be more than willing to buy a MiSTer. But I think what stops the MiSTer from getting such cases, is it's shape.

>> No.10475514

>>10475164
>BD is necesssary since I have tons of blu ray disc games

What PC games were ever released on BD? For years they were reluctant to even release PC games on DVD and released them as multi-CDs instead out of worry that people would not have a DVD drive long LONG after they were standard and any game released like that would not run on a system too old to have a DVD drive over a CD drive anyway. Computers basically never even came with Blu-Ray drives, even the few PCs today you can buy pre-built that still have optical drive options have DVD-RW drives. Just about any system with a Blu-Ray drive was either custom-built or had it's DVD drive replace with a Blu-Ray drive aftermarket.

>>10475412
At least those look decent, the one in >>10475078 looks like an Aliexpress knockoff version designed as a toy that was made 20 years ago.

>>10475437
It looks like a toy, like a budget kid-friendly "gaming" PC your father would have gotten you from a defunct computer store nearly two decades ago. The garish design of that side-window and the random cosmetic bits on the front does not scream "soul" it screams "I am 12 and I think this is the coolest thing ever".

That media bay doesn't help either. Fucking external MOLEX? M2 cards? What, were they out of the model that had XD ports and a Zip drive too?

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>>10475493
>But I think what stops the MiSTer from getting such cases, is it's shape.

Not really, there are a shitload of case options, as well as different boards that are completely different shaped/form factors to plug the DE-10 into other than the usual sandwich design people are used to. Ones designed to make it look more like a retro console, plug into a JAMMA connector on an arcade cabinet, become an ITX form factor so you can install it in any ITX-compatible PC case, etc.

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>>10475524
Even the "sandwich" setup doesn't limit you to just that common metal case you see people use.

>> No.10475559

>>10475164
>babby's first geymen

Explains a lot.

>> No.10475561

>>10475493
3D printers exist, DIY something, it's fun.

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>>10475418
Absolutely cringe, someone does cater to cringelords though.

>> No.10475580

>>10475152
Agree falcon is it's own platform.

>> No.10475587

>>10475514
Not PC games, I'm talking about backing up PS3 games so I can transfer the files onto my hacked PS3. I even back up Original Xbox games, Dreamcast games, PS1 games, and Saturn games. Although I have PC games on DVD/CD as well such as Splatterhouse, GTA3 and GTA Vice City.

The Apevia Sniper cases are fairly popular and sells out. They're not cheap and it doesn't look like a toy. Maybe to a normie like you who lacks any sense of style and prefers something dull and boring, which would explain your shit taste. See you're the type of dork who would pick a boring box or box-like design for a case(NES, Gamecube). I'd go with a case that has cool stylistic design(Sega Genesis, Xbox). So yes the design of the PC case I chose has soul because it has style. You on the other hand would settle for a used Dell case for your PC. No soul or style. Which would explain why you wouldn't buy an iMac from the late 90's, because it looks like a "toy" to you.

>> No.10475596

>>10475559
t. poorfag who never grew up with both a Genesis and a SNES.

>> No.10475605

>>10475596
Sorry to hear.

>> No.10475612

>>10475164
>To poorfags like you.
People build PCs worth 5 grand who care about PC gaming. Get out the receipts or stop being a faglord.

>> No.10475641

>>10475078
It looks older than it is.

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>>10475078
This is, without a doubt, the faggyiest looking computer case I've ever seen

>> No.10475760

>>10475527
Where do I get one of those raspberry pi cases

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10475825

>Daily MiSTer thread gets made
>Thread gets flooded with europoors and niggers
>Incessant whining and moaning
>"UMMMMMMM I don't need a MiSTer because I just use my PC, lol"
>PC looks like this

>> No.10475834

>>10475605
That I grew up WITH both a Genesis and a SNES? No need to feel sorry, my childhood was awesome.

>>10475612
>faglord
Seething MiSTerfag detected.

>>10475641
Yet Apevia still sells those cases new.

>>10475748
t. Virgin who likes soulless dull looking box shaped cases with no cool edge or grooves.

>> No.10475841

>>10475825
That PC looks more like a white cased MiSTer than my PC.

>> No.10475851

>>10475565
yeah but I want a cute mini-tower.

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>>10475851
I gotta cute mini tower for ya. *winks in Gary busey*

>> No.10475870

>>10475748
I've seen many gay cases, that one isn't it. I saw one with rainbow colored led lights, a trans flag sticker, an Antifa sticker, a Palestine sticker and a black raised fist symbol as the power button. They/them also had a red mouse with a commie symbol.

>> No.10475906

>>10475870
Sounds like nightmare fuel. The closest to gay I've seen was a Half-Life themed PC tower.

>> No.10476004

What does Phil Collins have to do with the MISTer?

>> No.10476072

>>10474629
Exactly. They think we're stupid, as if we can't figure out the cost ourselves.

>> No.10476103

>>10474545
Stay triggered shill.

>>10474556
Not a larp and I'm not broke or poor. I just know better than to waste money on bullshit. No need to get upset pal.

>>10474567
My systems seem to have lasted for over 3 decades. I still don't see value in a MiSTer, unless I was poor & unable to afford, buy, and maintain consoles. But to each their own.

>>10475139
More like why would I want to buy a microwave(MiSTer), when I can make quality food with an oven(consoles)? MiSTer can emulate a lot of consoles, but you'll never get that satisfying taste of playing on a real console.

>> No.10476170

>>10476103
post your neo geo

>> No.10476351

>>10476103
Post your accelerated Amiga 1200, c64 with dolphin dos, apple IIe, tandy 1000, speccy, vic20, Atari St with mono and colour monitor, amstrad cpc123, ETC.

>> No.10476421

>>10476351
Post yours you fuckin loser. I never grew up with any of that gay shit anyways

>> No.10476429

>>10476421
Seething.

>> No.10476493

>>10476170
>>10476351
Obscure consoles that only few people played. Never needed them. I mainly went for and grew up with Sega, Nintendo, Playstation and Xbox consoles.

>> No.10476550

>>10476493
The satisfying taste of playing on consoles that everyone has. Pleb.

>> No.10476651

The reason I dislike the MiSTer FPGA project is not just the fact that I have to buy a dedicated educational board (on which I won't be learning how to make cores on), it's the fact that there are additional costs if I want a more complete experience.

+$50
>SDRAM brings peace of mind that I'll have access to 99% of the existing public cores
or +50+50
>Dual SDRAM has marginal benefits over single SDRAM (for now) which comes with the sacrifice of not being able to stream to an HDMI capture card and play on CRT because the Analog I/O board uses one entire side of the pins.

+$55
>Analog I/O required if I want to play on a CRT
>at least all I need are simple ini edits for RGB or composite

+$30
>Active Y/C adapter if I don't want shitty composite
or +$20
>Passive Y/C which is all I need for S-Video

+$45
>Only if I want a matching USB Hub for the Alexey sandwich
or +$10
>for a cheap OTG USB hub if I just need USB for a controller, keyboard, and WiFi dongle

If I were to get one, I don't know which case to get as these are clearly overpriced and I don't know how to feel about a 3D printed case as evening my shitty Raspberry Pi 3B+ has an aluminum case.

>> No.10476653

>>10476550
Show me your Neo Geo AES

>> No.10476673

>>10476651
I got one of these acrylic cases https://misterfpga.co.uk/product/mister-case-acrylic/

Still a bit pricey for what it is, but it looks nice and is much cheaper than other options out there.

>> No.10476681

>>10474436
>shill
Lol yeah, I'm a shill for a product I don't own and have no vested interest in.
Or maybe I can recognize the advantages are not worth it to me without calling everyone that came to a different conclusion an idiot.

>> No.10476692
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10476692

>>10476653

>> No.10476698

>>10476493
Then that is why Mister doesn't appeal to you, please feel free to ignore it and go about your business while people who do like those "obscure" non mario systems discuss them.

>> No.10476703

>>10476651
I bought pretty much all of this shit from China for next to nothing over 3 years ago. I paid 60 bucks for USB, analog IO, and SDRAM. Board was about 130 bucks, whole thing was slightly over 200 bucks after buying a few SNAC adapters. I might've had to buy a VGA-BNC cable, I forget.

>> No.10476731

>>10476703
Retro castle? I've considered his supply and it is really economical, but I actually forgot about that source.

>> No.10476770

>>10476703
>>10476731
I would've gone retrocastle if there wasn't a 15% tax on aliexpress stuff in my country. Worked out cheaper just to put it together myself.

>> No.10476773

>>10476681
Denial doesn't make you any less of a shill.

>>10476692
That's not a Neo Geo AES. That's an emulator box.

>>10476698
Yet you shills brag about being able to play NES, SNES, Genesis on that emulation box.

>> No.10476783

>>10476692
LOL. Like a tgirl whipping one out.

>> No.10476876

>>10475587
Your PS3's loader should be able to just directly rip the game to the HDD, no need to go through a PC, which IIRC will result in an image that won't work in emulators because you need the PS3 to decrypt it first. Many homebrew ISO loaders (PS2, Wii, Xbox) can use the console itself to rip the game.

Xbox used a non-standard format, without using an actual Xbox to rip the games you would need a very specific range of DVD drives flashed with specific homebrew firmware and specific software to rip them directly on a PC. Same goes for just about all Nintendo systems that used optical disks.

And I would hardly call my RGB-modified HAF X case boring, finding a 230MM RGB fan for the front was a bitch, but that thing you posted definitely looks like a budget toy case.

And of course I would not buy a Mac. It's fuckling Apple, screw their trash. Especially their first-gen Fisher Price iMacs that looked straight out of a kids show.

>>10475834
>Yet Apevia still sells those cases new.

Dell still uses the same 20 year old case design in their Alienware systems as well, doesn't mean just because they are still selling it that it's good.

>>10476651
You don't need dual-RAM, you can use HDMI to VGA if you wanted, you can get the analog I/O board for much less, you do NOT need those Y/C adapters if you get the analog board. And as shown earlier, there are many case options. There are all-in-one solutions as well that basically combine all those parts you mentioned into a single motherboard-like PCB that you just plug the DE-10 into.

>> No.10476967

>>10472697
Holy based mistrfaggots BTFO

>> No.10476978

I'm looking foward to the next MegaAGS revision it will have CD32 games.

>> No.10477231

>>10476773
>Denial
The fuck am I denying?
I'm not advocating for anyone to buy one. I don't give a shit.
I just like laughing at people who don't understand what it is or how it works that dismiss it out of hand with copious amounts of vitriol and retardation.

>> No.10478634

How capable is the MiSTer for MS-DOS gaming? Can I get Pentium era games running on it?

>> No.10478715

>>10478634
IIRC, the PC core is limited to 486SX (not DX).

>> No.10478814

>>10478634
It's decent but like anon said 486sx level at most. Going past that is getting into diminishing returns and you are better off with pc based solutions. The pcxt/tandy core is pretty cool though.

>> No.10478914

>>10475834
>Seething MiSTerfag detected.
I don't even own a mister, I emulate on PC. Why else would I be interested in a PC related post chain? Wtf?

>> No.10478926

>>10476103
>My systems seem to have lasted for over 3 decades. I still don't see value in a MiSTer, unless I was poor & unable to afford, buy, and maintain consoles. But to each their own.

>says "be financially responsible"
>then posts shit like "lol ur poor that you'd rather go the cheaper router and get a mister than maintain your actual hardware?"

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>>10476351
>Post your accelerated Amiga 1200
I don't like FPGA based solutions. They are great for just plain gaming, just like general emulation, but to play around with the machine itself, I want it to be period correct.
Autism is a Hell of a drug.

>> No.10479075

how many usb hubs total do you get if you dont install the usb hub addon and just use the de10 nano + io digital addon board.

>> No.10479084

>>10479075

ports, not hubs

>> No.10479157

>>10476876
>you can use HDMI to VGA if you wanted
I can, but after some reading, it seems I loose the ability to stream and play on a CRT.
>you do NOT need those Y/C adapters if you get the analog board
How will I get S-Video or Composite?

>> No.10479168

>>10479157
>How will I get S-Video or Composite?
but why?

>> No.10479176

>>10479075
None you need an otg adapter at minimum.

>> No.10479180

>>10479157
Mister now does Y/C natively just turn in the global setting.

>> No.10479272

>>10479168
>but why?
Because it's an option I want to use.

>>10479180
>Mister now does Y/C natively just turn in the global setting.
How are you going to breakout the signal though?

>> No.10479535

>>10474284
How can you post this and a subhuman vtuber reaction image and assume anyone is taking this post seriously? Something about pots and kettles

>> No.10479703

>>10479272
It comes out of the analog DB15 like the RGB does, using 2 of 3 pins that component comes out of so just use a component cable. The Y/C can be trivially converted to composite from there.

>> No.10479771

>>10479703
I think I know what setup you're talking about and it's not as trivial.

>combine chroma and luma into one RCA
>introduce a resistor or capacitor somewhere in the chain to reduce dot crawl, or deal with it for free

Last time I read up on that method, it seemed like rainbowing was an issue across most console cores. Although rainbowing is a given on Genesis as I have one and I'm used to it. The active Y/C adapter offers the cleanest composite possible, but it does not get rid of the edge dots in most cases which is also native to this signal. I'm already set on getting the active Y/C adapter anyway when I decide to drop the money on MiSTer.

>> No.10479775

>>10476876
>you do NOT need those Y/C adapters if you get the analog board
Yes you do.

>> No.10479803

>>10479771
Literally used cheap S-Video to Composite adapters (passive) and never had a problem with dot crawl.

>> No.10479973

>>10479771
CompoSHIT will always suck. But like anon said there are trivial ways to combine the Y/C output into CVBS.

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I just want to point out we are now on the third thread, second day of that stupid chronotrigger fag not posting his gay little test

>> No.10480221

>>10479973
Composite with modern en/decoders can look really good though. But that defeats the purpose a little.

>> No.10480468

>>10476103
You're right, the MiSTer is overpriced. It's no different from the Analog clone consoles being overpriced or the EON HD adapters. Only suckers buy this junk at such a high price.

>> No.10480513

>>10480468
NTA, but yeah those EON adapters are ridiculously overpriced. Price gouging seems to be the goal of all these companies making this crap.

>> No.10480523

>>10480135
The one you've already seen and are intensely upset about?

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>>10480135

>> No.10480554
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10480554

>>10480135
>I hate these threads
>so I sit in every one of them all day every day looking to argue with someone who pushed my shit in a week ago

Seething this hard.

>> No.10480565

>>10480135
let me explain it to you again queer, because you dont seem to understand how this works. all that time youve spent choking on massive nigger dicks has deprived your brain of the necessary oxygen for comprehension. I dont post chrono. I request faggots like *you* post chrono. lets see your gay ass dad's Lenovo desktop produce stutterless scrolling like the mister does.

>> No.10480589

>>10480513
Yup, which is precisely why I won't buy from FPGA companies like Analog or MiSTer. I also won't buy from HDMI converter companies like EON, I'd rather support their competitors like Insurrection Industries, Retrobit or Kaico.

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>>10480589
>companies
>like MiSTer

>> No.10480679

>>10480652
>Pretends that the MiSTerAddOns website does not exist

>> No.10480692

>>10480589
I wish there were FPGA competitors that would put Analog and MiSTer in it's place with cheaper prices.

>> No.10480695

>>10480692
I think you mean Mister accessories
Terasic makes the FPGA

>> No.10480706

>>10480135
I recall those webms. Why were they important again???

>> No.10480714

I got my MiSTer today. Everything just werks and there's no jerky scrolling or screen tearing or awful user interface so it's already better than 99% of software emulators.

>> No.10480724

>>10480714
That's not an emulation issue though

>> No.10480753

I never realized how shit emulation is until I got a MiSTer it was like night and day.

>> No.10480759

I'm happy with mine so far. The menu interface is simple and I haven't seen any glitches in games yet. It cost me about what I make at one day of work, so price wasn't a big issue. I'm just glad to be done with cringy PC software emulation. I guess the Mister is so much better because it's actually replicating the physical hardware.

>> No.10480769

>>10480753
I’m convinced that the people saying this, never got Retroarch to work correctly
But hey, if it’s easier for you that’s great

>> No.10480773

>>10480769
Retroarch has hands down the most dogshit interface for anything ever and just in general sucks a fat cock.

>> No.10480778

>>10480773
Yes, I get that most of mister users hate retroarch
But reading a lot of posts here, it’s clear that it wasn’t used properly

>> No.10480779

>>10480769
I might replace Mister with Retroarch if cores were up to date and runahead didn't cause glitches. You've never tried a Mister? Maybe you could get a used one if it's too expensive for you.

>> No.10480785

>>10480778
>it’s clear that it wasn’t used properly
Retroarch is the Linux of emulators. That is to say a complete piece of shit that never works.

>> No.10480805

>>10480769
Why would I waste my time trying to polish a turd when mister just works.

>> No.10480812

I like to play on my TV which is in a different room to my PC, there's no way I want a PC wheezing away in my lounge anyway absolutely cringe tier.

>> No.10480813

>>10473749
I agree. I have a fondness for the real thing, but playing with a proper controller on a big screen is simply a better experience.

>> No.10480814

>>10480769
I'm convinced that people who say this have never tried mister.

>> No.10480815

>>10480785
Works on my machine.

>> No.10480876

>>10480779
Don’t need it, I use real hardware
>>10480805
Because it also “just werks”
>>10480814
I understand how it works and how it works perfectly, there’s no need for me to get one
Just think it’s funny that people think emulation stutters

>> No.10480883

>>10480876
>Just think it’s funny that people think emulation stutters
Without Retroarch's dynamic rate control a ton of emulators stutter.

>> No.10480884

>>10480876
>real hardware
That's a viable option when you only play mario games.

>> No.10480885

>>10480779
>I might replace Mister with Retroarch if cores were up to date and runahead didn't cause glitches
Run ahead when set up correctly is glitchless, MiSTer still shits on it though lol.

>> No.10480890

>>10480884
>That's a viable option when you only play mario games.
Doesn't the Super Mario Bros record holder use an emulator and keyboard?

>> No.10480891

>>10480890
Probably, who cares.

>> No.10480895

>>10480773
Retroarch has shitloads of different interfaces though? Specially if you include community ones.

>> No.10480897

>>10480883
Is VRR really that foreign to you?

>> No.10480898

>>10480883
stop trying to emulate on a Pentium 4 or Pi

>> No.10480905

>>10480897
Don't even need VRR, if you do, it's either a specs or configuration issue

>> No.10480907

>>10480812
>my cooling sucks
ok?

>> No.10480919

>>10480898
i3-6320, far from the best CPU but a long way from Pi tier rubbish.
>>10480905
GBA runs at 59.7hz, if you don't have VRR or use dynamic rate control to speed it up to 60.00hz then it's going to stutter, same for all the other consoles with non standard refresh rates.

>> No.10480945

>>10480919
>GBA runs at 59.7hz, if you don't have VRR or use dynamic rate control to speed it up to 60.00hz then it's going to stutter, same for all the other consoles with non standard refresh rates.
You can make custom modes with different refresh rates, RetroArch will automatically switch. This is true for panels too, not just CRTs.
But VRR is generally the better and easier option, true.

>> No.10480957

>>10480945
>You can make custom modes with different refresh rates
Or I could just plug in the MiSTer and change a 0 to a 2 in the ini, nothing is easier than that.

>> No.10480994

>>10480957
MiSTer is cool and all, my brother has one, but I already have a high end gaming PC and emulation works for me.
I don't have a problem with configuration, if I had a MiSTer, I'd probably be tweaking it too.

>> No.10481010

>>10472697
Holy based. I don't kneel very often, but today I kneel for you.

>> No.10481018

>>10472697
Is there a reason hardware replication will never be possible? As far as I understand, it's entirely feasible concept?

>> No.10481025

>>10480994
Poor.

>> No.10481079

>>10480679
Never bought anything from them. You realize the addons like SRAM etc are open source so anyone can make them right? I could print the board and solder some SDRAM chips to it if I wanted to

>> No.10481090

>>10481018
There's no reason, he's shitposting. In fact some (not all) of the MiSTer cores are perfect replications.

>> No.10481103

>>10481018
>As far as I understand, it's entirely feasible concept?
Literally what the MegaDrive and NeoGeo cores are.

>> No.10481105

>>10480652
>>Pretends that the MiSTerAddOns website does not exist
Pretends that the MiSTerAddOns website is official and not third party.

>> No.10481150

>>10480679
None of my MiSTer parts come from there.

>> No.10481175

>>10472690
wasn't this debunked?

>> No.10481189

>>10481025
Poor what?

>> No.10481191

>>10481105
There's nothing "official" about MiSTer, it's more a community project than anything.

>> No.10481192

>>10480773
your dad has no difficulty with that kind of blu-ray player interface

/vr/ABDLs have less neural plasticity than boomers

you're going to actually need those diapers with your early onset dementia

>> No.10481202

>>10480773
I guess you don't even know that it has different UIs? That's the kind of people shitting on RetroArch, no wonder.

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I just want to point out that it is now day 3 of the third thread, and that sameposting chronotrigger fag still hasn't uploaded the 600 dollar difference webm's yet that he absolutely saved to fap on later, not realizing just how fucking detracting they are to his argument

>> No.10481703

>>10480876
>Don’t need it, I use real hardware

Same here. The MiSTer is a waste of money. Real hardware is the definitive way to play video games.

>> No.10481727

>>10481703
>Real hardware is the definitive way to play video games
Absolutely, however MiSTer costs a tiny fraction of the cost it would cost to put together the systems it supports. If you don't already have a collection and were lucky enough to collect in the early 2000's before prices went mad then not buying a MiSTer instead is a waste of money.

>> No.10481929

>>10481703
Maybe if there are only two or max four consoles you care about. But beyond that, and especially getting into retro PCs, it's going to cost you many many times more than what a MiSTer costs to get the consoles and Fashcart/ODEs for all of them, and that's assuming you will use a CRT and not a modern TV in which case you will need HDMI/RGB mods too.

A Neo Geo flashcart alone costs more than how much you can assemble a MiSTer for.

>> No.10481946

>>10481929
>A Neo Geo flashcart alone costs more than how much you can assemble a MiSTer for.
Don't bother arguing with them. They literally say that MiSTer costs $600 because that's how much a pre-built one costs using nothing but MiSTerAddons parts (including a premium case).

>> No.10481956

>>10481559
It's been posted already and it's your own fault for not being there to save the video. Software emufags began moving the goal post after it was proven.

>> No.10482040

>>10481956
What do software emufags have to do with anything?

>> No.10482062

>>10481929
I got an NES, SMS, Genesis, SNES, Saturn, PS1, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Switch, NES mini, SNES mini, Genesis mini, PS1 mini, and PC Engine mini.

I don't need HDMI adapters for my hacked mini consoles or modern consoles, my CRT TV died out(no longer powers on) and so I've already bought HDMI adapters for mainly my 5th and 6th gen consoles, didn't need HDMI converters or Flashcarts for my cartridge based consoles because I got the hacked console minis for them. And although I do have a hacked PS1 mini, I mainly use my hacked [spoilers]PS3[/spoilers] to play PS1 and PS2 games on. I only have one Flashcart for my N64. I use the Satiator for my Saturn, I use MODE for my Dreamcast, I have a modded Xbox, a modded Gamecube. And although it did cost me money to get all those things, it was a lot faster(years before the existence of the MiSTer) and cheaper(buying them one by one) than getting a MiSTer for $615, a device that originally only emulated 8 bit and 16 bit game consoles. Which was the exact reason I didn't buy a MiSTer. So focusing on my 5th and 6th gen upgrades became the more logical choice.

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>>10482062
>didn't need HDMI converters or Flashcarts for my cartridge based consoles because I got the hacked console minis for them

>> No.10482070

>>10482062
>my CRT TV died out(no longer powers on)
Fix it?

>> No.10482072

>>10481929
Also I don't need or want a NEO GEO console.

>>10481946
It isn't $600. It's $615!

>> No.10482078

>>10482065
t. Poorfag who couldn't afford console minis and doesn't know how to hack them.

Awwww....poor baby!

>> No.10482081

>>10482070
Not worth the trouble since I'm not an electrician.

>> No.10482109

>>10482062
Nice blog post but even your life would be improved by not shuffling so much rotting plastic m

>> No.10482150

>>10482062
That's a LOT of plastic junk that could easily be replaced by a mini PC. You're not going to take any of that with you when you bite the dust, so why let it occupy any space in your life?. They aren't works of art or anything inherently beautiful. Just consumer products that have been out of date for decades now.

>> No.10482237

>>10482109
>rotting plastic
None of my consoles show signs of rot. Also a lot of electronics(including yours) uses plastic.

>>10482150
The plastic I have aren't "junk". They're worth money, especially if I decided to sell them on eBay. If my plastic consoles and games were junk, why then is my copy of Power Stone 2 for the Dreamcast(CIB) is worth over $200? I bought it for $3 at a thrift store by the way, a decade and a half before it was even worth $200. My Sega Master System, accessories and the games I have for it are worth over $1200 and I bought it for only $60 via Facebook. I could literally retire when I reach the age of 70 selling off all my games and consoles. You on the other hand will have nothing worth selling, due to your hate of plastic.

>> No.10482263

>>10482237
>retire on $3k

>> No.10482294

>>10482263
>*doesn't account for rarity, inflation and value skyrocketting in the next 30 years

All the games and consoles I own are worth more than "$3K". Hence why your ancestors regret not buying that first issue of Action Comics.

>> No.10482301

>>10482294
If you say so, I don't think they'll last that long if you're actively using them.

>> No.10482309

>>10482294
If anything the prices will go way down. The only reason the prices were raising was because a specific generation had demand for it. You think zoomers when they hit 30 will give a shit?

>> No.10482315

>>10482237
You're delusional.

>> No.10482350

>>10479771
I used the analog board from retrocastle with sega saturn av output instead of the vga connector. Just plug a saturn composite or svideo cable and you are golden.

For me, if I use a CRT, Svideo is enough for quality and use hdmi in my oled tv.

I used to have another analog io board with the vga output and used component video to a crt tv but never liked how sharp it looked.

>> No.10482372

>>10472865
Mr MiSTer just sent me three MiSTers, I've got one hooked up to my TV, one in my Astro City cab and one which I'll be giving away FREE to one lucky anon! Please like, subscribe, retweet, smack that notification bell, turn around, touch the ground, touch your nose, scratch your balls, sell your soul to win! Good luck!

>> No.10482378

>>10482350
I looked it up and that's pretty cool. I will have to adjust my budget for that one though as the board itself is a little over $100. It's cool that it has Y/C integrated too.

>> No.10482638

>>10481956
Thanks for not samefagging but I will literally post this in every mister thread going forward until the heat death of the universe unless you post the webms. I know you saved them, everyone else knows you saved them, just fucking post it so we can all collectively laugh at the 615 dollar difference

>> No.10482653

>>10482301
Funny because I've used my Sega Genesis for over 30 years and it works great.

>>10482309
Depending on their income, if they grew up with Millenial Parents who had them and if they're into collecting Mario, Sonic and Zelda, then yes.

>>10482315
Nope. I'm just good with knowing the value on the stuff I own. For instance some of my unopened action figures from the 90's are worth thousands now. Thanks to my father telling me that not opening these figures would be worth more in 30 years. He was right and I ended up buying a car with selling those unopened figures.

>> No.10482664

Imagine being this triggered that others aren't poorfags

>> No.10482680

I guess you could say... he's chronotriggered.

>> No.10482710

>>10482680
No, I just know there are tons of lurkers thinking of buying a mister and they deserve to see what that 615 gets them.

>> No.10482720

>>10482710
I can get a DE-10 nano for 350 AUD
where are you getting 615 USD from?

>> No.10482726

>>10482710
Sounds like main character syndrome. Are the lurkers in the room with us right now?

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10482734

Which one of you 4Chudders wants a MiSTer?. Bidding starts at $1000 USD.

>> No.10482737

Hey guys check out the 600 dollar difference

https://youtu.be/GF2V8b7YuGo?si=S8HD4Sol0p9d0iz3

>> No.10482738

>>10482720
DE-10 is not a complete MiSTer. That's like saying you only need a mother board for your Gaming PC.

>> No.10482742

>>10482738
It's more like the MoBo, CPU, GPU and PSU
the extras are the case and a proper IO

>> No.10482762

>>10482737
I'm sold on only getting the Game and Watch. Thanks!

>> No.10482834

>>10482710
I honestly don't care if they or you want a mister, in fact anyone who is not already enthusiastic about fpga projects and is just looking for a way to play wahoos on their tendies should look elsewhere, this project is not for you.

>> No.10482839

>>10482834
LMAO
why are you people so obnoxious

>> No.10482864
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>>10482762
It looks pretty sick. Would be the perfect pokemon machine if it had a SD slot.

Mister timing fags seethe when they see a 20 dollar device performing at the same lvl as their shitster lmao. Wait till you see the chronotrigger webms, you'll shit your pants laughing. The 615 dollar difference LOL

>> No.10482871

>>10482839
It's true though, mister is an enthusiast project not a commercial product. Tendies are an overall negative in that they contribute nothing but still feel entitled to be spoonfed.

>> No.10482878 [DELETED] 

>>10482871
So you bought a Mister to no not play games?
good job

>> No.10482881
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>>10482737

>> No.10482883

>>10482871
So you bought a Mister to not play games?
good job

>> No.10482884

>>10482878
I play games sure, but more than that I am interested in fpga tech and system preservation. If you're just playing marios then sure it's probably not for you.

>> No.10482887

>>10482878
>>10482883

It worked the first time

>> No.10482901

>>10482638
It's already been laughed at and you missed out. I feel sorry you are so desperate to laugh at something everyone else saw.

>> No.10482908

>>10482864
>timing
Ok, let's compare MAME to MiSTer on CPS

https://youtu.be/CgqFhfmlSLg

MiSTer has rock solid timing, identical to a real CPS system btw

>> No.10482909

>>10482901
a sad life he leads

>> No.10482919

>>10482884
> I am interested in fpga tech
Are you developing?
>and system preservation
That's BS, if you were interested in that you'd get into soldering and real hardware
>I play games sure
>If you're just playing marios then sure it's probably not for you.
Again, you're just being obnoxious
>>10482908
>MAME
terrible software that has emulators that would function better in another frontend

>> No.10482924 [DELETED] 

>>10482901
>>10482909

Samefagging

>> No.10482929

>>10482908
Cps? What console generation was that? See nobody gives a fuck. My GB35 has just as good timing as your mister lmao

>> No.10482939

>>10482919
>Are you developing?
You can't have a hobby?

>That's BS, if you were interested in that you'd get into soldering and real hardware
What's the point? Even the ICs are going to die one day. Who says anon can't into it anyways?

Not that anon though.

>> No.10482940 [DELETED] 

>>10482919
Cope.

>> No.10482947

>>10482919
You can't do both? I have plenty of systems, but I'm interested in fpga. You sir have the nuance of a toddler.

>> No.10482952

>>10482939
Being interested in FPGA would usually mean you are messing around with them
I suppose people do that with Pi's so, valid
>>10482939
>What's the point? Even the ICs are going to die one day
so will you? I fail to see how that's relevant
>>10482947
>Nuance
>Name calling
uh huh

>> No.10482958

>>10482864
Definitely!

>>10482883
MiSTerfags don't even play half the games they downloaded for their emubox and they don't even use all the "cores" they installed into it. Like who in the hell would play an Amiga or a Commadore 64?

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>>10482924
Cope.

>> No.10482967

>>10482958
Plebian tendie.

>> No.10482991

>>10482952
>so will you? I fail to see how that's relevant
To preserve the possibility to easily run and preserve the ability to run the software/games these consoles run indefinitely? Long after any original hardware is gone. Just because I'm dead doesn't mean everyone else is.

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>>10482924
the cope is real

>> No.10482998

>>10482958
Shitloads of definitive versions of multiplats from that era are on the Amiga, what are you on about? Not to mention several dozen exclusives that are worth playing.

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>>10482924
shit you got me

>> No.10483008

>>10482991
Is this really what you’re going with?

>> No.10483010

>>10482958
Dude, Amiga usually has the better versions of many DOS games. Even the console versions of several games that are on Amiga are WAY better on Amiga.

>> No.10483018 [DELETED] 

>>10483010
You're arguing with a troll. You and half this thread.

>> No.10483020

HELLO I ONLY PLAY NINTENDO GAMES AND AM NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING ELSE. I ALREADY OWN ALL THE NINTENDO SYSTEMS WHICH INTEREST ME AND I AM ENTIRELY SATISFIED WITH EMULATION FOR VEDEO GAMES WHICH DONT INTERESTE ME.

WHAT I DEMAND TO KNOW IS WHY DOES MISTER EXIST!?!

>> No.10483035

>>10483020
to make poorfags mad

>> No.10483042

>>10483020
MiSTer is being worked on to preserve vintage hardware in FPGA form. You avoid having to buy flashcarts and hardware while also getting a comparable experience. It's a shortcut for people who don't care about collecting the original hardware.

>> No.10483045 [DELETED] 

>>10483018
who gives a shit, I come to 4chan to post my thoughts.

>> No.10483068

>>10483008
I don't hugely give a crap about that but many people do. I wasn't talking about myself, I'm not the FPGA anon.
I fail to see how it's not a valid point though, specially if you yourself were talking about preservation too.

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>>10483018
>61 posters

>> No.10483171

>>10483020
I forgot to mention that the MiSTer is $615 on MiSTerAddOns. Happy shopping!

>> No.10483174

>>10483171
Seems reasonable, I spend way more on some of my hobbies.

>> No.10483846

>>10483171
I just spent double that on another watch because I felt like it.

>> No.10483897

>>10483171
$325, have fun!

https://youtu.be/QYUCoNGpQok?feature=shared

>> No.10483902

>>10483846
People who spend stupid money on watches are retarded. It blew my mind to find out that sapphire is reserved for "premium" models.

Know how much it costs to buy a sapphire crystal as an end user? 10 bucks.

>> No.10483905

>>10483902
Diamond is cheap too anon
do you really think you're getting good sapphire for 10 bucks?

>> No.10483909

>>10483905
>good sapphire
You know all sapphire is artificial, right? There's no magic sapphire you're spending an extra 500 bucks for. By the way, that was 10 bucks with AR coating, I know a lot of retarded companies try and charge you extra for that too.

>> No.10483972

>>10483909
Lol

>> No.10484217

>>10475078
>that case
>bragging about having SATA ports
What year is it?

>> No.10484626

>>10483897
$325 isn't a complete MiSTer, sir.

>> No.10484636
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>>10484626
What is a complete MiSTer? Is MiSTer incomplete if you don't have an RTC board or an ADC-in board?

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>>10484636
A complete MiSTer looks like this...

>> No.10484680

>>10484626
Yes it is, I only paid another $25 on top of that for my MiSter build as I wanted a case, is that incomplete too?

>> No.10484689
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>>10484678
No, that's some fridge looking thing. A commonly accepted vision of a "complete MiSTer" looks closer to this. Cases are completely unnecessary, it stands properly without them.

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>>10484678
Oldfag here, I look at these prices and let out a loud HA! Reflexively, mind you.
Just emulate if you need it looking perfect. Sheesh.

>> No.10484730

>>10480919
>i3-6320, far from the best CPU but a long way from Pi tier rubbish.
sorry, it's rubbish in 2023 A.D.

>> No.10484731
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10484731

You're all wrong, a complete MiSTer setup looks like this

>> No.10484736

>>10484731
t. atrac17

>> No.10484739

>>10484731
That's based.

>> No.10484806

>>10484730
But more than enough to run bsnes with run ahead, frame delay, hard GPU sync etc. It’s rubbish for modern games but the the single thread performance is more than enough for Dolphin, PCSX2, up to date MAME and any other 16-32bit emulator you throw at it. It’s not a fucking core2duo lol.

>> No.10484826

>>10484731
Arcade cabinents take up too much space. I think I'll just stick to emulation on my gaming PC.

>> No.10484829

>>10484826
You do that, really appreciate your input.

>> No.10484832

>>10484724
>Just emulate if you need it looking perfect.
Sure, because that’s the only measure of a good emulator.

>> No.10484839

>>10482908
Holy shit mame doesn't even do cps1 right after all this time!?!? The dust has settled team mister ftw

>> No.10484847

>>10484839
Same for CPS2, no game plays at the correct speed in software emulation.

>> No.10484849

>>10484839
MAME devs are too busy implementing preliminary emulation of plug n play shovelware, slot machines, and teddy bear voice boxes to work on improving things that have been wrong for decades.

>> No.10484869

>>10484849
They also don't want to implement this stuff because it would massively increase the CPU demands. A few years back someone made QSound LLE for CPS2, the old HLE version is all you can play with because LLE made it uplayable for anyone without a modern i7. This stuff is why people buy a MiSTer,

>> No.10484986

>>10484636
Complete mister imo is device, analog board, ram expansion, and case

>> No.10485014

>>10484986
Which doesn’t need to cost anything like $615, now fuck off.

>> No.10485079

>>10484986
Only de10 and ram are required for all cores.

>> No.10485319

If the project something that could be improved with more money/better hardware - assuming the programming was solvable?

>> No.10485327

>>10485319
Many people contribute to patreon or contribute hardware like arcade boards and chips to analyze.

>> No.10485328

>>10485319
In what way?

If you mean, if they can add more consoles the current MiSTer can't do or increase accuracy of something like the N64 core, that would require a better FPGA, which is going to be hard to find a reasonably priced alternative for. the DE-10 board is already heavily subsidized, there are FPGAs which are weaker than it that cost more because of that subsidized cost, it's the main reason the DE-10 board was chosen for the project.

That being said the FPGA the MARS is using sometimes is available for suspiciously cheap... and other times is more than twice the price of the DE-10 board. But that's just a FPGA, not an entire board with an ARM CPU on it like the DE-10 is.

>> No.10485348

>>10485328
>If you mean, if they can add more consoles the current MiSTer can't do or increase accuracy of something like the N64 core
Yes, so theoretically they could get an behemoth of an angel investor to subsidize a more powerful FGPA? And if they did, could it simply be combined with the existing hardware in an adhoc way for a monolithic nuMister?

>> No.10485421

>>10484689
Technically just the top two

>> No.10485441

>>10485348
>Yes, so theoretically they could get an behemoth of an angel investor to subsidize a more powerful FGPA?

You realize the DE-10 is being subsidized by the freaking US government because it's intended as an educational tool, right? That would be one hell of an investor with nothing to gain.

>And if they did, could it simply be combined with the existing hardware in an adhoc way for a monolithic nuMister?

If it has the exact same GPIO pinout, and the architecture of the FPGA and ARM as well as other components of the DE-10 are similar enough it MIGHT function as a drop-in replacement, but more likely you will need a new set of add-ons that are designed for the different FPGA board instead of being able to re-use your old ones.

There is also the question of actually being able to do said newer systems in FPGA. CPUs and especially GPUs started seeing massive increases in complexity after Gen 5, even if you had a FPGA that could theoretically handle the guts of a PS2 or GameCube, it might not be humanely feasible for someone to re-create those in a FPGA unless you had a whole team working on it or something, it would be a hell of a lot for one man to take on.

>> No.10485443

for PSX and N64, is this really that much better than emulation? how are the scanline filters on this thing?

>> No.10485462

>>10485441
I know it's a silly hypothetical, but I'm just interested in the technical feasibility, which unfortunately is what I assumed.

>> No.10485524

>>10485462
Technically feasible if a viable FPGA is found, but would likely require a team effort instead of one person working on it.

Although about two years ago the Saturn, PS1, and N64 were considered impossible for the current MiSTer so we won't really know until there is a viable new FPGA and someone attempts it. Even the MARS's FPGA is likely not going to go beyond Dreamcast.

>> No.10485709

>>10485079
Yes but if you have an easy way to connect your digital display to something that emulates just use your pc. Mister is the best way to emulate on a crt display

>> No.10485841

>>10485348
Much more powerful fpga devices are available, they are not cheap.

>> No.10485843

>>10485709
No, mister is superior on LCD as well it can run very low latency even there plus has a built in low latency retrotink equivalent m

>> No.10485861

>>10485841
The MARS FPGA is four times the price of the Mister FPGA

>> No.10485869

>>10485014
The fact that it is $615 tells me I should use that money to repair sink instead.

>> No.10485876

>>10485869
>I should use that money to repair sink instead
if you waited this long to repair your sink for 600 bucks then you obviously have more pressing issues than spending money on games anon

>> No.10485883

>>10472690
At this point just pull out the original hardware and use an upscaler, or use emulation with a higher resolution. This in between nonsense makes no sense.

>> No.10485934

>>10485876
I was joking, but obviously $615 is better spent on more important things.

>> No.10485989

>>10485883
It does if you want to use it with CRTs. I love being able to use it with my CRT, and then plug in into my OLED with no fuss, shit just werks. It depends on your use case. It's a harder sell if you just want to play on a flat panel, for sure.

>> No.10486017

>>10485934
no ones stopping you

>> No.10486381

>>10485883
>upscaler
A retrotink costs more than a DE-10 nano.

>> No.10486384

>>10485934
It must suck to be scratching for $600, it's basically hand to mouth poverty.

>> No.10486435

>>10486384
Actually I got $50,678 in my bank account. Thanks to me not wasting $615 on junk.

>> No.10486437

>>10486435
That's even sadder.

>> No.10486480

>>10486435
This has got to be the weirdest line of posts about "thing costs money" I've seen on this board

>> No.10486990

>>10486437
>>10486480
Not really. I'm being smart with my money. Austin 6:15 says: Anyone who spends $615 on crap they don't need is a fool!

>> No.10487026

>>10486990
I spent $350 on something I did need, software emulation isn’t good enough.

>> No.10487037

300+ posts sperging about one overpriced seller’s prebuild existing. It’s like repeatedly going into a PC gaming thread and posting a picture of a 5k build that you aren’t interested in and know fuck all about but you just can’t help yourself, what a way to spend your life lmao,

>> No.10487228

>>10486435
That's impressive anon. Sadly I'm unable to do the same since I spend money on weed, beer and cigarettes. Maybe these MiSTercucks could learn from you, rather than foolishly spending hundreds on a device that looks like a power supply unit.

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>>10485443
for PSX not so much, software emulators are pretty good for that. For N64 though definitely, N64 emulation is still a shitshow and MiSTer already has better timings.

>how are the scanline filters on this thing?
Pretty good if you have a TV capable of HDR. Picrel.

>> No.10487282

>>10485843
What is run ahead

>> No.10487292

>>10487282
I have tested a powerful PC with Runahead and MiSTer is still faster by a full frame.

>> No.10487295

>>10487292
I did the same using Samurai Kirby as a test. Same monitor, mister still wins by 1 frame

>> No.10487296

>>10487274
>for PSX not so much
I saw someone post CPU hardware tests on discord when the core was being put together, the MiSTer core shits on DuckStation.

>> No.10487302

>>10487228
Why are you talking to yourself?

>> No.10487306

>>10487274
Could you share your filter settings please?

>> No.10487309

>>10487282
Runahead is a 90% solution. It requires the game to have input buffering and not all do. You might not care about the 10% with problems, but it's important to acknowledge that they exist.
Mister is a solution to this problem. You may not like this particular solution and that's your prerogative, but it should be noted.

>> No.10487310

>>10487037
I feel like it's a false flag operation by MARS team to constantly shit on Mister Addons. Apparently they have an axe to grind with him for acting hostile towards other manufacturers of JAMMA adapter boards.

>> No.10487315

>>10487292
Bbut my faster than original hardware talking point

>> No.10487320

>>10487310
Possible, but I really think it's just 1 turbo autist. This is 4chan after all, we have many of them.

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>>10487306
Sure friend

I'm using video_mode=14 for 1440p and hdr=1. You have to turn on "HDR Tone Mapping" on your TV for HDR to work properly. Mine's an LG C1 OLED.

The shadowmask is a slight edit of the AG-2 mask to be a little brighter without affecting colors: https://pastebin.com/M6DkbE1n

For Scanlines, I use SAL_Dk_040_Br_060.txt for everything besides N64.

N64 doesn't have adaptive scanlines yet, so I'm using a variant that doesn't boost brightness. These were only posted on the settings discord channel and I couldn't find an external link to them anywhere, so here's the zip file https://filetransfer.io/data-package/tI3HN4TZ#link just unzip them under your filters folder. I'm using SAL_NoBoost_Dk_050_Br_050.txt for N64.

I don't use gamma boost since it's not needed, I've calibrated the colors with these settings under 240p test suite and it looked pretty great. But feel free to play with them. Sharpness is also to your liking, I generally use GS Sharpness 70.

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>>10487338
Settings screen for N64

>> No.10487354

>>10487296
Really? What about beetle psx?

>> No.10487356

>>10487338
What's adaptive scanlines?

>> No.10487368

>>10487356
As far as I understand they adapt to the content being displayed, they'll boost brightness in lighter areas and change in thickness according, like on a CRT. Since N64 core coesn't support them yet it just ends up boosting everything and destroying colors. So the noboost variant has the thickening aspect without the brightness boost. It still gets pretty bright thanks to HDR though.

>> No.10487371

>>10487338
Appreciate it bro, thank you.

>> No.10487375

>>10487354
Didn’t see any tests for it but don’t think it will be that much different desu.

>> No.10487382

>>10487368
Ah interesting, didn't know the mister had that.

>> No.10487384

>>10487375
>desu
Tbh autocorrect lol

>> No.10487389

>>10487354
Better question to ask is where can you find all these CPU accuracy test results or how to get them yourself (what program to run on the PS1 that tests them), then you can just run the test yourself and see.

I'd provide it, but I have no idea what they use to test, there are a couple of SNES and NES test roms that do this, unsure which PS1 tests they used.

>> No.10487409

looks like n64 core supports all games now. buying a de10 nano as promised. thankfully its still in stock

>> No.10487425

>>10487409
It can boot the USA released games but the Japanese and other regions aren’t being tracked yet. Still great progress though, enjoy your DE-10!

>> No.10487429

>>10487409
I personally still think it's too soon to buy one just for n64, but you'll get enough out of it with everything else anyways

>> No.10487553

>>10487228
Wasting money on bad habits is worse than buying a MiSTer. I suggest going into rehab.

>> No.10487559

>>10487409
>>10487429
Buying an N64, a Kaico HD Adapter and a flashcart is way cheaper than spending $615 for a MiSTer.

>> No.10487589

>>10487559
Not really, you'd be wasting a couple hundreds on getting just N64 working. The MiSTer also has the equivalent of a Retrotink5x on it, which is $300 by itself. And the bonus of running all the other consoles as well. It's a no brainer.

>> No.10487590

>>10487589
My N64 works just fine, never needed to spend hundreds to "get it working".

>> No.10487637

>>10487590
Well if you're going to get a good flashcard, good scaler, RGB mod etc it'll cost you a couple hundreds.

>> No.10487656

>>10487559
>$615
$350

>> No.10487664

>>10487589
Dont forget the cost of an everdrive, but i feel like you should all stop entertaining this guy.

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Here is F-Zero X with most filters disabled running on the latest N64 core. I don't think even an HDMI mod with these same settings enabled through ROM hacking or a Retrotink 4K could match how sharp it looks in person.

>> No.10488073

>>10488024
Actualy UltraHDMI's sharpening thing is better, since it doesn't disable the effects but does some trickery to get a very sharp image out of it, with anti-aliasing etc preserved. But it costs an arm and a leg.

>> No.10488079

>>10488073
You can freely enable and disable each filter on a case by case basis in the menu on MiSTer. For example you could disable the bilinear blur and the edge AA but keep the texture filtering and dithering.

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>>10488079
Yeah, I know that, but you don't actually want to do that. Games were designed around the filtering, you're removing intended detail. What UltraHDMI's Deblur feature does is get a very sharp image with all the filtering intact. Hopefully we can get something like that on the core. Robert is famous to always add in extra enhancements as long as they fit

>> No.10488161

>>10487559

>Total Amount: $266.36 (USD)

that was for de10-nano itself, shipping is expensive but it was 1 and a half day shipping from taiwan handed to me by fedex. fastest shipping ive ever had.

from there I just bought an io hub which was $45 for the digital hdmi version and used my usb with wifi/bluetooth. Also bought 128MB for $50 , so its no where near $615 where the fuck are you getting this number from lol.

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10488183

>>10488159
You can disable the same combination of VI settings to achieve the same result.

>> No.10488186

>>10487292
Doubtful
I think mister is great but a single frame is down to margin of error

>> No.10488254

>>10487338
I wasn't aware MiSTer was that intricate in it's filtering options. Would you say there is any benefit at all to connecting it to a Retrotink 4K over just using it's built in filter settings?

>> No.10488292

>>10488254
Getting 4K output?

>> No.10488298

>>10488073
Also newer versions of the N64 HDMI mods no longer have analog RGB output.

>> No.10488312

>>10488254
The one advantage with a tink4k would be more robust shadowmask options. You can get very detailed shadowmask emulation in 4k, and a lot of models need that much resolution for an accurate reproduction. Like if you want consumer CRT shadowmasks, 4k is the only way. You could also make masks that emulate the colors of the subpixels on LCD displays like on the GBA, GBC, etc, (like the Analogue Pocket does) those don't look good on MiSTer; it's a bit limited due to resolution. But the Trinitron style masks are very good at 1080p/1440p and those are my favorite ones.

>> No.10488314

>>10488161
I think he’s referring to buying on already setup with a shell and extras. If anything $615 is not a bad price. If you want oem controllers, plus controller adapters, cooling fan, etc…

>> No.10488319

>>10488161
>shipping is expensive
Shipping is free from certain sites

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>>10488254
People don't talk a lot about it but it's one of my favorite things on the MiSTer. I can whip up a mask filter using the editor (https://bool.space/mister/ShadowMaskEditor.htm)) and have it look any way I want. The scanline options are great too. I find MiSTer's filter options much better to get exactly what I want out of than something like Retroarch's shaders, but maybe those are just too complicated for me.

>> No.10488386

I love commodore16 and vic20 and have a lot of nostalgia for them. The c16 in particular is notorious for chips crapping out so I'm glad that fpga implementations exist.

>> No.10488938

>>10488352
It sure can do a lot. One of the things I like is how FPGA cores interface directly with peripherals, the obvious ones being SNAC and CRT but others are serial, MIDI and on the c64 core IEC to interface drives. Real tapes can also load in the ADC for most tape systems which is neat.

Even HDMI is relatively low level and removes latency compared to the abstraction on emulators which have to render through shared kernel, driver and GPU. It's just neat and comfy T B H.

>> No.10488948

Has anyone attempted a core for the Cruisn' Exotica arcade game? I didn't see anything on the github and I'm an FPGA engineer myself so I'd like to look into it since it's one of my favorite racing games.

>> No.10488949

>>10480885
Runahead is a shit-tier hack it doesn't remove latency it hacks the way the game works to compensate for it. You're not playing the original game any more.

>> No.10488951

>>10488948
Isn't that on N64?

>> No.10488978

>>10488949
who cares if its hacky, it still removes latency. I say this as a Misterfaggot. "you're not playing the original" just sounds like dumb elitism.

>> No.10488997

>>10488951
N64 port is shite

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>>10488948
Was the Zeus/ZeusII arcade hardware based on the N64 at all? Or was it it's own thing? If it was based on the N64 maybe once Robert's N64 core is finished that can be used as a base to make a core for that game. I wouldn't hold my breath though because even in MAME it's a laughably broken mess and has been for years, supposedly due to how much of a nightmare trying to emulate the Zeus hardware is.

>> No.10489267

>>10488978
It doesn't remove latency, it changes the game. Enjoy your fucked game.

>> No.10489415

Something Mister has over original hardware is the ability to enable more sprites to clean up flicker. That's a big improvement.

>> No.10489437

>>10487637
I got the Everdrive 64 X7 for free, thanks to redeeming my bing points for Amazon Gift Cards. I have no need for an RGB mod, I just use the Kaico HDMI adapter, then run it through my mClassic(which I bought long before I started buying HDMI adapters for my consoles). Overall I'm satisfied with how it all worked out, especially since there are no good N64 emulators and I didn't want to wait years to emulate on some FPGA device.

>> No.10489441

>>10489141
As far as I know, only the Aleck64 is directly based on the Nintendo 64 hardware. That means everything else from arcade is a port.

>> No.10489442

>>10489437
I STOLE A NEO GEO MISTER!?!

>> No.10489443

>>10489415
yeah, increased sprite limit is a game changer.

>> No.10489450

>>10487656
>>10488161
>$350
>$266.36
Contradictive information, especially when you're going by prices of either an incomplete MiSTer or another incomplete variant. But the actual price can be found through the screenshots posted here or through a quick google search that led me to MiSTerAddOns and the price for a complete MiSTer is still...$615! Amazing how those sell out quickly. I guess people prefer a completed MiSTer than an incomplete MiSTer.

>> No.10489456

>>10489442
Impressive. I had no idea that NEO GEO made MiSTer devices.

>> No.10489463

>>10489450
You argue like a shallow person

>a pre-configured kit sells out, it must be popular

No, it's because they are released in limited quantities since they have to be put together by the seller for you. Meanwhile, the parts to put one together are always available.

>> No.10489513

>>10489463
Even better sorgelig's designs are open source so you can make your own. Only the de-10 is off the shelf.

>> No.10489560

>>10489267
Call it what you want, the effect is that there's less input lag. It works perfectly well. I'm semi-convinced you're a false-flagger trying to make misterfags look bad.

>> No.10489589

>>10489560
It's not accurate though.

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>>10489463
He's done this like 20 times in this thread alone and so many anons keep replying to it.

>> No.10490341

>>10489463
Or maybe people prefer pre-configured over the hassle of putting one together. What sounds more appealing to you? Buying a Sega Genesis/CD combo in pieces because it's "cheaper", or would you prefer to buy it for $250 brand new if this were the year 1991?

>> No.10490348

>>10489560
see >>10487295
Runahead doesnt get you less than real hardware or fpga, it just gets you closer. It's an insanely good free alternative though

>> No.10490417

Jesus this thread is shit, but I guess thats to be expected on this shithole site where the average iq is in the single digits

>> No.10490481

>>10490341
If the pieces simply slotted into eachother and I didn't have to solder, I'd go for the disassemble version. That's the same with the MiSTer, you buy the pieces you need and fit it together.

>> No.10491409

>>10490341
There sure are a lot of consoomers buying misters since the gen5 cores were announced. Kinda cancerous to be honest.

>> No.10491420

>>10491409
I actually appreciate my new MiSTer peers. Even though their initial intent will be fore playing 5th gen cores, they will inevitably creep into the other console cores and maybe even the arcade cores attracting discussion for more games. It's common practice for people to load up on complete romsets or even just use the HTGDB sets so they will be seeing games that would have never considered playing.

>> No.10491631

>>10490481
I would go for a completed set up, but that's just me.

>>10491409
Agreed.

>> No.10492054

>>10491631
I think it's nice that you have the option of buying a pre-configured MiSTer kid.

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I just wanted to say that we are almost on day 7 of the third thread and that chronotrigger gaywad STILL has not shown us the 615 dollar difference

>> No.10492132

>>10475125
We live in a world with 22TB hdds, gramps.

>> No.10492234 [DELETED] 

>>10492107
pic is literally me

>> No.10493952 [DELETED] 

>>10492107
I don't think you could cope with that.