/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10457774]

Play Sonic Advance.

[Anonymous No.10457793]

>>10457774
I kneel
This is what a good sonic run looks like, it feels even better if you can get to that skill level.

[Anonymous No.10457802]

[Anonymous No.10457809]

I have, 100% completed all of them.
2>1>>>3

[Anonymous No.10457814]

>>10457809
3 is worse in some ways but the Knuckles & Amy team is ridiculously fun.

[Anonymous No.10457815]

>>10457774
Nah, I'm not into furry shit.

[Anonymous No.10457817]

>>10457815
Trying too hard

[Anonymous No.10457820]

>>10457814
Finding all the Chao and those crappy special stages have a reserved seat in hell, next to satan.

[Anonymous No.10457823]

is that webm supposed to convince me? the game plays itself. you just watch knuckles run. this is a huge problem with SA2 in particular. it's repetitive as hell too.
I'll admit though that until recently, I was unaware that SA3 generally was considered the best one. I played it, and it was a step in the right direction, though it was no Genesis trilogy. but at least you can't just hold right to win, and I felt like I had reason to play it after a few hours. too bad that the artstyle is uglier than 2.

[Anonymous No.10457827]

>>10457817
ok furfag lol

[Anonymous No.10457830]

>>10457815
>t.

[Anonymous No.10457831]

>>10457823
>SA3 generally was considered the best one
I've literally never heard this sentiment before.

[Anonymous No.10457832]

[Anonymous No.10457845]

>>10457814
Knuckles and Amy go together like peanut butter and jelly

[Anonymous No.10457852]

>>10457831
I just went to gamefaqs and checked user reviews. I always thought 2 was the most popular one, but actually it was rated as 7/10 by a whole lot of people, while SA3 was almost all 9 or 10.

[Anonymous No.10457854]

>>10457823
>the game plays itself. you just watch knuckles run
Are we looking at the same webm?

[Anonymous No.10457859]

>>10457852
I've never met another human being who thought Sonic Advance 3 was better than 1 or 2.

[Anonymous No.10457864]

[Anonymous No.10457867]

>>10457864
>Silver

[Anonymous No.10457875]

>>10457867
I got a better time before, but the webm recording was crusty and had black bars like >>10457832. Still need to re-do some of these

[Anonymous No.10457884]

>>10457854
He doesn’t understand the skill and knowledge involved in becoming competent at sonic games. Which is very different from just playing and completing sonic levels. It’s very much like a racing game in regards to knowing the track and knowing when to slowdown etc… these fools use the Mario metric to judge platformers on.

[Anonymous No.10457889]

>>10457884
Correct, I've had people tell me that this Stardust Speedway webm is just "holding right"

[Anonymous No.10457895]

>>10457889
>perfectly calculated jumps and slowdowns
That’s nice, real nice even

[Anonymous No.10457902]

>>10457854
>Are we looking at the same webm?
yes we are, stop shilling mediocre games
>>10457884
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Sonic Advance. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the nuance will go over a typical player's head.

[Anonymous No.10457926]

>>10457793
I think this has to do more with memorization than skill. I look at that .webm and shudder at the poor soul who had to memorize that huge, hazardous, unfun maze in a handheld screen.

[Anonymous No.10457965]

>>10457926
Who's to say that memorization isn't a part of skill? I think it's a ridiculous notion that trial and error is an illegitimate way of designing a game. Ever play Prince of Persia? Wizardry? Castlevania? Ninja Gaiden? I don't like people who only play uber-polished Nintendo games that anyone can beat on their first try implying that games that do otherwise are somehow poorly designed. Maybe I enjoy playing the level multiple times and testing out alternate routes to see which one is the fastest, and maybe I enjoy exploring the level.

[Anonymous No.10457984]

>>10457902
>Sonic Advance gameplay.png
Okay, just for you, I did a version of the level where I just hold right and occasionally jump.

[Anonymous No.10457994]

>>10457926
>I think this has to do more with memorization than skill.
Show me one practicable skill that requires zero memorisation.

[Anonymous No.10458005]

>>10457984
I hate how the sprites don't feel like they're connected to the world, like a flash game. I always felt this was a poor direction for Sonic, no longer does a step feel significant, and every bounce in the game world no longer feels like you're really there kicking off the ground.

This isn't relevant to your clip or anything, the games are still fine but this is something that bugged me.

[Anonymous No.10458025]

These "color corrections" look terrible. It feels like my eyesight aged 40 years.

[Anonymous No.10458028]

>>10458005
I don't get what you mean. In what way are the sprites not connected to the world? Like, what's the disconnect between the character sprites and the level terrain?
Only problem I have with the sprites in this game are the springs and capsules. They're using the rounded redesigns from Sonic Adventure, but those were made for a 3D game. The more square designs of the springs and item monitors from the Genesis games work better for 2D games. Especially the springs, because you sort of expect them to behave like the springs in the Adventure games (meaning they activate if you touch them from any angle), but they still act like the Genesis springs (you just push against them from the side and you actually need to hit them from the top)

[Anonymous No.10458029]

>>10458005
It's exactly the same as the original games.

[Anonymous No.10458032]

>>10458025
I think they look nicer. The OP webm seems too bright in comparison. Doesn't look like that on an actual GBA.

[Anonymous No.10458037]

>>10458032
>Doesn't look like that on an actual GBA.
Yeah. Why would you want to replicate that?

[Anonymous No.10458038]

>>10457984
>I took your joke literally so you're wrong sweatie
congrats, even your vid shows the level design is just one big rail where you hold right but (gasp) occasionally jump. this is the 7th level of the game, so yeah, they at least try to pretend it's harder.
this game entirely misses the variety and challenges that made the Genesis games good. when you remove those, all you have is holding right and jumping occasionally to watch the hedgehog go fast. which, surprise, perfectly describes SA1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.10458043]

These games look way more fun than the latest thing they made. The sprite animation is more dynamic and the level design has something going on every second

[Anonymous No.10458051]

>>10457774
I could happily go through life without playing a single entry in the Sonic canon ever again

[Anonymous No.10458053]

>>10458038
>even your vid shows the level design is just one big rail
Someone else in this thread said it's a maze. Is it a maze, or is it a rail? It can't be both. You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.10458054]

>>10458038
>this game entirely misses the variety and challenges that made the Genesis games good
>Can't name a single example
Okay.

[Anonymous No.10458062]

>>10458053
It's only a maze if you try looking for the special stage spring. Otherwise you can run forward and eventually reach the end.

[Anonymous No.10458063]

>>10458037
Well, the games were designed to look like that.

[Anonymous No.10458071]

>>10458062
>Otherwise you can run forward and eventually reach the end.
You mean like in almost every Sonic level?

[Anonymous No.10458072]

>>10458063
Advance 3 has colour correction modes for your output because they knew the GBA screen was a problem.

[Anonymous No.10458078]

>>10458071
>Widescreen

[Anonymous No.10458096]

>>10458063
Look at the boxart dude. I doubt a cartoony game for children was intended to be played with dull colors.

[Anonymous No.10458097]

>>10458078
This webm KILLS the purist

[Anonymous No.10458106]

>>10457926
Video game player here, you don't have to memorize anything in that level, you can pick pretty much any path and it will go somewhere, it just might not be the fastest or easiest path. Just how a good sonic game should be. I play that game a lot and I doubt I've ever done the route from the OP image, I prefer taking higher paths.
The level before it is much more of a maze, and a vertical one at that, but it's (literally) separated into sections so it's pretty clear if you've made progress.

[Anonymous No.10458107]

>>10458096
I usually play the games like this tbqh

[Anonymous No.10458113]

>>10458107
It keeps getting worse.

[Anonymous No.10458123]

>>10457774
>Play Sonic Advance
...as amy exclusively

not even on some gay waifushit or nothing its just unironically the best gameplay imo
shame they never made a 2d platformer based entirely around that hammer/leap gameplay she had in 1

[Anonymous No.10458127]

[Anonymous No.10458137]

>>10457889
This is really good. Makes me want to get back into CD, it's been too long

[Anonymous No.10458150]

>>10458127
yea thats what im talkin about
the mechanics of SA1 amy are pretty much entirely unique in platforming. or at least idk any games that played like that.
the stages are arguably the LEAST designed for her specific movement, yet she always seems the most effortless to play through out of all the characters

idk its hard to describe

[Anonymous No.10458157]

>>10457774
No thanks. The GBA screen is too dark and the sound quality is ear grading in most games.

[Anonymous No.10458194]

>>10458097
Why would it?

[Anonymous No.10458196]

>>10457889
>It's not "just holding right", you have to press jump once or twice per level!
Wow, thrilling gameplay.

[Anonymous No.10458362]

>>10457902
To be fair you're a reddit transplant thats been conditioned to live in a box of passive aggression. Why actually learn how to play the game when you can cry about how much you suck at it?

[Anonymous No.10458468]

>>10458362
idgi desu
im not very good at sanic games but theyre still pretty fun. the stages are usually fucking massive compared to their counterparts in, say, SMW

like sure you CAN just go right. if youre really good.
if youre bad, like me, you might have to go all the fuckin way around. depending on the sanic game that can be either pretty meh see: sonic 1 or arguably more fun than the direct route the advance games, S&K3 etc

[Anonymous No.10458471]

>>10457774
the level art in the GBA games is so sterile

[Anonymous No.10458478]

>>10458468
It takes time, you just can't play it once and be a master tho. Even playing it once in a while won't net you results, you really need to just take some time to play it every day for a week-month. It's like riding a bike tho, you put in the effort then later you can pick it up and get in the groove in no time. And there's like 8 games that use this skill set, so it's not just a one off like sm64

[Anonymous No.10458521]

>>10458471
i think they did a really good job with all the little character animations desu. GBA was wayyy less powerful, being a handheld, so theres only so much you can do when trying to make a game thats supposed to GO FAST™
they also pumped out 3 of em in only a few years. iirc 2 was the best looking one, but had the most slowdown.
idk man. adventure 1 and 2 were fun but i was really happy they hadnt given up on making 2D sanics when i was a kid
they were just some random 3rd party shmucks but they obviously cared about and played the OG games a lot, and it showed

[Anonymous No.10458538]

>>10458362
>you're a reddit transplant thats been conditioned to live in a box of passive aggression.
stop using words you don't understand. also funny that you say that, Sonic Advance series is about as reddit as it gets. zoomies were only familiar with Sonic from nu cartoons and GBA games. you must be born past 2000 to think a game this shallow is some hidden gem.

[Anonymous No.10458546]

>>10458538
Everything I said holds doubly true for yourself, young woman. Nobody ever said sonic advance was a hidden gem, nobody said anything about zoomers, the discussion was about the actual gameplay, but you cant argue against that point because theres nowhere for you to stand. your unfocused ramblings are tinged with mental illness, get a grip.

[Anonymous No.10458551]

[Anonymous No.10458559]

>>10457774
Its beautiful. How have in never heard of this?

[Anonymous No.10459103]

>>10457926
All the high skill ceiling video games require at least a decent level of memorization, including arcade games like Donkey Kong and Pacman. What exactly are you getting at?

[Anonymous No.10459105]

>>10458551
The Advance series is, to this very day, the only Sonic games that made playing Amy FUN. Moreso Advance 1 than 2 since the latter just makes her a Sonic clone, but still.

[Anonymous No.10459106]

>>10457774
You need to shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.10459210]

>>10457926
bro...the player probably didn't dig up a history book to frantically readbefore a test.
he found flying around as knuckles was fun. so he did it again. if you play a level then over time you'll end up remembering the routes.
like damn, I'm talking to some literal non-player tourists who never saw a video game and browsed this board by accident

[Anonymous No.10459271]

>>10457823
Kek you have no idea what you’re looking at

[Anonymous No.10459279]

[Anonymous No.10459369]

>>10457889
WTF i hate CD now

[Anonymous No.10459378]

Advance Trilogy is so good bruddas.
Where did all the good ex-SNK people went after Advance 3, Rush Adventure, and Colors DS?

[Anonymous No.10459398]

Amy on CD hack when?

[Anonymous No.10459403]

>>10459398
Miracle is adding Amy but it's going to be his boring Origins moveset.

[Anonymous No.10459404]

>his
SEGA has gone woke....

[Anonymous No.10459553]

>>10459398
Sonic 2: Pink Edition remains my favorite Sonic romhack to this day. Amy feels so satisfying to play, and Cream is also fun if you feel like cheesing the game.

[Anonymous No.10459619]

>>10457774
Nah I’m good you scary fagnerds ruined it with that disgusting grandma rape psyop

[Anonymous No.10459629]

>>10459619
???

[Anonymous No.10459653]

>>10459629
He’s going through a psychotic episode, best not to intervene.

[Anonymous No.10459852]

>>10459619

[Anonymous No.10460406]

>>10457774
>gets hit
Ruined

[Anonymous No.10460853]

>>10457774
>Play Sonic
I actually value my time, thanks

[Anonymous No.10461012]

>>10460853
sorry anon but Star Fox and Metroid is just Nintendo flavored Sonic