/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10427739]

Thoughts on proto-Blue Mary?
Also what happened to Richard?

[Anonymous No.10427829]

>>10427739
>Also what happened to Richard?
He was in Maximum Impact and he makes cameo appearances in modern KoF games as a background spectator

[Anonymous No.10427941]

>>10427739
That's Media, she was in a Gamest Fatal Fury comic as Terry's girlfriend.

The same comic has Mecha-Geese cosplaying as Krauser (or Souther). It's pretty wild.

[Anonymous No.10428985]

>>10427739
>What happened to Richard?
Got replaced by his student Bob, whose a better character anyway.

[Anonymous No.10429003]

Feeding women is pretty based

[Anonymous No.10429009]

>>10427739
FF1 Richard wasn't all that special. Obviously, they tried to substitute him with Bob, but I guess he wasn't that popular in the end. he was kind of generic by SNK's standards. SNK crowd is all coomers anyway

[Anonymous No.10429030]

>>10429009
To be honest, out of all the FF3 "ugly ducklings" Bob had it best, i can easily see him being added in the new FF game, unlike Jin bros, Franco and Sokaku.

[Anonymous No.10429061]

>>10429030
Well yeah. But that's mostly because he was a young dude made to be a "cool" character. Hong Fu was an uninspired Jackie Chan ripoff, Sokaku looked like a SamSho background character. Jin bros do get cameos here and there though, I can see them maybe getting a chance as a novelty pick in some KoF DLC when they run out of ideas. Franco was in between—I think they were betting on him being popular, he was in the artworks, but he looks too much like Haggar and just kind of sucks.
FF gave SNK its most recognizable characters, but alas almost none of the later characters could live up to the old guard.

[Anonymous No.10429096]

>>10429061
Alfred never ever btw.

[Anonymous No.10429113]

>>10429030
>>10429061
Sokaku is the best Real Bout character and Jin Bros are iconic and shows SNK's effort of going the shonen route as they did with KoF.
Haven't kept up with the new game. It's more like MOTW right?

[Anonymous No.10429131]

>>10429113
>Sokaku is the best Real Bout character
I'm just saying is that he looks like a regular Japanese monk. His magical attacks don't even make sense in FF. all his appeal is that he's a discount bin Raiden (MK one, not SNK one).
>Haven't kept up with the new game.
neither have I. not sure they revealed much beyond a teaser. anyway, it looks barely better than KoF XV, which looked worse than SFV. if it's a nu-SNK game with dumbed down gameplay, I'll pass.

[Anonymous No.10429150]

>>10429131
>His magical attacks don't even make sense
Why not? We're talking people who can throw fireballs and do other inhuman shit since day 1 in FF.
Sokaku is way cooler than raiden.

[Anonymous No.10429357]

>>10429150
Was Tung Fu Rue based on Master Roshi or are they both parodying something else from Asian pop culture. I think I’ve seen the “old guy suddenly becomes buff” archetype in a few fighting game rosters; Power Instinct comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.10429393]

>>10429150
see, there's difference between just special effects / "chi" / fire attacks and summoning demons. FF is not a "fantasy" game and has no "magic" in it. it'd fit way better in Last Blade / Samsho, not in FF where the setting is realistic modern world. even "superpowers" like Kyo's flames wouldn't feel right in that setting.
>We're talking people who can throw fireballs
this is generally explained, much like in SF. like, Terry and Andy use chi, Tung taught them how to do that. so it's "realistic" bullshit. Mai is a ninja, so she can use flames. not like she summons demons from outer world or something.

[Anonymous No.10429403]

>>10429357
knowing SNK… he's just Roshi

[Anonymous No.10429545]

Andy finally gave in to Mai in the new kof games

[Anonymous No.10429556]

>>10429393
The Jin Bros use magic too.

[Anonymous No.10429936]

>>10429393
I think even Samsho is supposed to be in the same universe as FF, with the green goblin ninja hinted to be Mai's ancestor because they're both "Shiranui"

[Anonymous No.10431439]

Blue Mary is such a babe though, she's not one of my top tier favorites but I can't deny her hotness

[Anonymous No.10431575]

>>10429393
>Mai is a ninja, so she can use flames
I thought Mai's flames were artificial and not a power?

[Anonymous No.10431581]

>>10429936
SamSho also just straight-up has Mai in it

[Anonymous No.10431585]

>>10429357
>Did Dragon Ball start everything?!
>Doesn't even get the character's name right
Certified RETARD.

[Anonymous No.10431751]

Dragonball stole its characters from Hong Kong cinema. I'm sure if you watched enough of it you'd find a character that predates Roshi.

[Anonymous No.10432041]

>>10431575
I don't think she has any canon explanation for her fire abilities, but I don't see how they could be anything but ninja magic if not some kind of "fire ki", cause it seems mystical, she even engulfs herself in flames for some attacks so it's not like it could be fire bombs or tricks

[Anonymous No.10433023]

>>10431751
i can think of the inflating character from big trouble in little china

[Anonymous No.10433215]

>>10431751
No fucking shit retard, Toriyama is an admitted Jackie Chan autist.

[Anonymous No.10433263]

Richard owns the Pao Pao Cafe.

[Anonymous No.10433282]

>>10431585
>>10429357
Tung Fu Rue is Roshi.
Blue Mary is Android 18.
Hon Fu is Jackie Chan.
Franco Bash is Mario (yes, the plumber).
Michael Max is Mike Tyson.
Raiden is Big Van Vader.
Cheng Sinzan is Hong Yixiang.
Axel Hawk is George Foreman.

[Anonymous No.10433287]

>>10432041
In Garou, Hokutomaru, who uses the same ninja style as Mai, uses wind and fire scrolls when doing his wind/fire uppercut supers. So Mai could be doing the same.

[Anonymous No.10433554]

Happy 32 year anniversary, Fatal Fury!

[Anonymous No.10434231]

>>10433554
a reminder of better times as we spiral into oblivion

[Anonymous No.10435098]

>>10434231
And yet a lot of people will tell you "nooooo! you're just being Abe Simpson yelling at the cloud! the past and the present are the same! in fact the present is better, uuuuh... fast internet! we have fast internet!"

[Anonymous No.10435105]

>>10429393
>>10429556
I'm pretty sure Chonshu summons a dragon made out of energy in the RB games.
The jins can also suck life out of people, that's pretty magical if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.10435583]

>>10433282
if my name was tung fu rue i'd tell people to call me "tung f-u, cause i'll tongue fuck you"

[Anonymous No.10436490]

>>10435098
They call it the present because it's a gift. But sometimes gifts suck, like socks or cologne.

[Anonymous No.10437587]

speaking of forgotten snk characters i think i may be the only person in the world who thought this guy was cool

[Anonymous No.10438047]

>>10437587
I thought so too, visually, but like most snk quotes, his were hilarious. Also if I remember, he looks doofy in his defeated animation.

[Anonymous No.10438729]

>>10431439
indeed

[Anonymous No.10439593]

>>10436490
i like socks

[Anonymous No.10439603]

>>10427829
Just wasn't popular enough for SNK to bring back I guess. Many cool characters fall victim to this fate.

[Anonymous No.10440140]

>>10437587
I like Eiji.

[Anonymous No.10440802]

>>10439603
Only so much they can pull from the Fatal Fury well for KoF

[Anonymous No.10442274]

>>10438729
her underwear must smell great after a battle

[Anonymous No.10442407]

>>10442274
dripping sweat

>>10439593
I have a sock fetish

[Anonymous No.10443372]

>>10442407
>dripping sweat
it's what plants crave

[Anonymous No.10444251]

Why is Fatal Fury lore more interesting than any other fighting game? It's just a regular 80s martial arts flick but I care about every single little detail and minor background character.
Any info on Yamada's fangirl harem?

[Anonymous No.10444439]

>>10444251
Maybe they just work it out well, like Tekken (before 5)

[Anonymous No.10444631]

>>10444251
Probably because from day 1 SNK had the goal of trying to make games that had a more involved story and lore with connecting character relationships. FF and AoF were both more story focused for their time

[Anonymous No.10444650]

>>10429545
Isn't the kid from Garou, who shares their movesets, their son?

[Anonymous No.10444681]

>>10444650
Nah, he's just some random kid taught by Andy.

[Anonymous No.10446672]

>>10444681
I always wished Andy was just gay, not for gay reasons but for waifu reasons

[Anonymous No.10446696]

>>10427739
my thoughts are the real one is a slut

[Anonymous No.10446725]

>>10444251
what >>10444251 said. I might remember wrong, but I think one of the guys who worked on SF1 wanted to take it into a different direction, more story focused. SF always focused on either blander martial arts / country stereotypes or freaks. KoF always went for likeable, "idol" characters.
I used to love them too, but over years I've kind of had enough. there's too much plot filler in the games. characters are always forgotten after their arch ends—see Terry, Ryo, Iori, K', etc.. the plot for FF hardly moved in RB, only gave us the "new gen" in Garou and then there was nothing for 20+ years. some guys just always get filler like Ralf / Clark and are basically a parody of themselves at this point. many people hate KoF for "gay weeb characters", I'm for one ok with them. the way bigger issue is how only a handful of game characters get any plot development game to game.
And now the KoF plot is just a shadow of its old self. Everyone gets revived, let's introduce another demon like in 1998 and XIII with a protag that no one likes and a "rival" Billie Eilish.

[Anonymous No.10447007]

>>10446725
Real Bout was like where they stopped trying with the story as much for FF as they shifted that focus over to KoF it seemed, while RB was kind of like "well we told the story for Fatal Fury, now we're just content to keep making games with the characters you know and change things up a little each game".

I prefer the RB games for the polish and gameplay aspect alone, but the real main story is the original series, I mean what does Geese coming back really add to the narrative? Nothing really, I think they just did it cause popular character. RBS and RB2 don't really even attempt a story, and Dominated Mind which does continue it is kinda meh in terms of it

[Anonymous No.10447031]

>>10447007
>they stopped trying with the story as much for FF as they shifted that focus over to KoF it seemed
that's too bad because in KoF, only the original characters get any real story. FF, AoF etc. only get filler endings or downright joke ones. so FF got no plot in either the mainline series or KoF.
pretty sad to think that for a company known for story / characters in their games, FF and AoF stories basically lasted just 2-3 games and ended around '95-96. except for Garou of course, which only gets a followup now. all KoF did was jokes about joe getting being a loser, takuma fooling around with mr. karate mask, and "will they won't they" with Andy / Mai and Ryo / King. to be fair though, seeing Iori want to fight Kyo for Nth time gets old too.
if they ended AoF and put FF on hiatus, could as well have continued their stories in KoF.

[Anonymous No.10447171]

>>10447007
>>10447031
Wasn't Real Bout like a sort of "dream Match" thing? Geese died in FF1 so him coming back is just not a canon thing.

[Anonymous No.10447186]

>>10447171
geese was revealed to be alive and well in fatal fury 3
real bout 1 is canon insofar that geese dies for real, but the game itself isn't that heavy on story. even the arcade mode only has a line of dialogue from geese after every three fights
rb special and 2 are non-canon

[Anonymous No.10447241]

>>10446696
Its not like she could do anything about losing that bra in the water

[Anonymous No.10447258]

>>10447171
It's weird, but Geese actually survived FF1 by doing a Shippuken in mid-air (really). He reappears in FF3 after the Jin scrolls, and he truly dies in Real Bout 1. The "classic" scene of Terry trying to grab Geese's hand and him refusing is from Real Bout (in FF1, he just kicks Geese out of the tower).
Geese falling and saying OOOWAAAAUGH - FF1
Geese falling while laughing - RB1

Real Bout Special and 2 are non-canon.

[Anonymous No.10447881]

>>10447031
Yeah, that's just kinda what happens though when you have a ton of characters and only one main plot though. It just feels a little worse because in KoFs case, a portion of the roster were already stars of their own games and now seem like background players in this series

[Anonymous No.10448535]

>>10444251
fatal fury 3 went full ham on story/dialogue, but with shit roster and obnoxious 3 lanes...it bombed hard

the real bout games don't even try with the story, even the endings are a joke

[Anonymous No.10450023]

>>10448535
Bro it brought two of the coolest characters in the series, Blue Mary and Yamazaki.

[Anonymous No.10450069]

>>10450023
this, can't beat Yamazaki in coolness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdEa37Qdx4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxSBkRYGsh0

[Anonymous No.10450375]

>>10447186
>rb special and 2 are non-canon
But the characters they spawned are canon.

[Anonymous No.10451085]

>>10450069
I love the psycho

[Anonymous No.10452974]

Would anyone like to play RB1 on FightCade 2 sometime? A RB2 is fine too

[Anonymous No.10453331]

>>10452974
I would like to. But I haven't played online since fightcade 1, and I need to get a new gamepad anyway so I can't.

[Anonymous No.10454527]

[Anonymous No.10454559]

>>10454527
Always loved these illustrations (and the over the top text presenting every character).
Was the artist a westerner? I seem to remember it was, even though it looks japanese/manga style.

[Anonymous No.10455165]

>>10452974
I'm down for RB2.

[Anonymous No.10455241]

>>10455165
Still around? I just got up

[Anonymous No.10455308]

>>10455241
Yes. I'm SA btw, so I'm not sure about the connection if you're from outside the Americas.

[Anonymous No.10455313]

>>10455308
I'm AUS so it might suck. We'll see anyway
Type vr in the chat and I'll challenge

[Anonymous No.10455404]

>>10455313
GGs man, nice Cheng. I need to have a small/medium-sized character as my secondary.

[Anonymous No.10455447]

>>10455404
Yeah GGs, was fun. Cheng is kinda weak but he's an ass to fight. His zoning range is pretty predictable considering his fireball isn't that good on block and it doesn't go fullscreen, so you could probably fish for Yama's reflect there. I also wouldn't do his pursuit unless it kills, considering Cheng has no reversals and you need him in the corner to bully him. Good stuff otherwise
I find RB1 more fun, but this game has much better balance. I'd probably like it more though if I learned someone who wasn't wack ass Cheng

[Anonymous No.10455656]

>>10455447
>so you could probably fish for Yama's reflect there
I thought that it wouldn't work properly due to the arc of the fireball, but it actually does when done at a certain distance. Thanks for the tips.

[Anonymous No.10456696]

>>10454527
>The Schizoid Martial Arts Old Guy
>The Vengeful Pole Pounder
>The Resilient Judo Geriatric
This is the sort of attitude we're missing in modern fighters

[Anonymous No.10456938]

>>10456696
Yeah it's great. Reminds me of the boss titles for OOT/MM. Why isn't this kind of thing more prevalent in media?
The only other examples I can think are the titles of some shows of mecha or tokusatsu, like Super Dimensional Fortress Macross or Mobile Suit Gundam. You know, having a sort of descriptive little title before the main name.

[Anonymous No.10458050]

>>10456696
Billy's pole is flamin'

[Anonymous No.10458056]

What do you guys think ot Fatal Fury special?

[Anonymous No.10458413]

>>10458056
Surprisingly solid compared to a bunch of other SNK fighters of its time, even outdoes a lot of the later ones. I enjoyed what I played of it at locals but it seems only old Japanese people play it online

[Anonymous No.10458514]

>>10458056
good game but AI in single player is ridiculous
i prefer the console versions which also have 6 button support

pc engine > snes > sega cd

[Anonymous No.10459186]

>>10458056
Its Fatal Fury 2 with some balancing and more characters. The definitive Fatal Fury game for old school people.
I think it deserves its praise it's really good

[Anonymous No.10460925]

>>10450069
>>10451085
I like how in the KoF timeline he's got Orochi blood, but it just doesn't effect him because he's too batshit already