This game is so much larger in scope than any other game released at the time. It feels like a complete game and not just a bunch of random levels glued together.

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Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:52:19 2023 No.10416162 [Reply] [Original]

This game is so much larger in scope than any other game released at the time. It feels like a complete game and not just a bunch of random levels glued together.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:53:52 2023 No.10416167 >>10416162 It's a very good game

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:53:56 2023 No.10416168 Soulless slop

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:57:22 2023 No.10416180 >>10416162 Hearing that sampled speech in the beginning threw me for a loop. I didn't expect anything with that level of clarity from the 16-bit era.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:58:22 2023 No.10416182

>>10416162
True, hipsters today no longer value content because it's no longer relevant. You don't go out and buy a retro game for $60 and then hope it entertains you for at least a month. Now you just download it and play it for an hour and then play some other shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 16:58:47 2023 No.10416183 Backtracking bullshit maze

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:02:38 2023 No.10416196 It's like an Amiga game with better controls. Even the color choices are the same

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:04:08 2023 No.10416204 >>10416182 >watches video essay on it this is how i play all my games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:07:06 2023 No.10416210 Sick and tired of hearing about this game, fuck Super Metroid and fuck the rest of the series too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:08:57 2023 No.10416217 >>10416210 It's one of the greatest games of all time. Get used to hearing about it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:11:19 2023 No.10416225

>>10416210
This. We could've gotten a console war thread or another "what if the saturn didn't fail" thread or another "how to save the dreamcast" thread or another "Mario All-stars is soulless" thread or another "recommend me games for X system" thread or another "popular game le bad" thread or another

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:16:59 2023 No.10416239 Wish they'd remake super Metroid on NES. Js.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:18:02 2023 No.10416245 >>10416196 >Amiga game with better controls Amiga games control better than this game. The physics are some of the worst in any major 2D mainstream game, I cannot believe they released it in this abysmal state.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:21:09 2023 No.10416249 >>10416245 Another casual modern gamer filtered.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:22:25 2023 No.10416250 >>10416245 Super Metroid controls perfectly you scrub

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:23:52 2023 No.10416257 >>10416162 >It feels like a complete game and not just a bunch of random levels glued together. SEGAsisters.....

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:24:26 2023 No.10416260 I've never played super metroid, but so far every "best game ever" on a nintendo console has been disappointing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:24:26 2023 No.10416261 >>10416239 Hope you like repeating rooms

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:26:23 2023 No.10416265 File: 99 KB, 250x354, Paper_Mario_The_Thousand-Year_Door_(artwork).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10416183 I thought Jarpigsloppers love backtracking

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:26:50 2023 No.10416267 >>10416260 Metroid is a series that even most Nintendo haters enjoy so I'd say give it a go

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:28:42 2023 No.10416272

>>10416249
>filtered
It's literally impossible to be filtered by this baby game, there's virtually no enemies. It's one of the easiest games ever. The whole game consists of wandering empty hallways whilst you struggle with some of the worst controls ever for a run and gun, until eventually the end "fight" (really more of a cutscene) guides you to the credits.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:29:16 2023 No.10416275 >>10416183 Complaining about backtracking in stuff like Metroid or Resident Evil is like being mad that you have to jump in platformers

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:29:19 2023 No.10416276 >>10416272 Yeah you've obviously never played it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:32:05 2023 No.10416289

>>10416276
>if you don't suck Super Metroid's fat cock it's because you've NEVER PLAYED IT!!!
Yeah you obviously don't play anything else but the short list of trite Nintendo shit. Try some games that are on an actually decent 16-bit platform some time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:33:20 2023 No.10416292 >>10416289 As usual the only "people" who hate Super Metroid are mentally ill /vr/ console warriors who haven't even played it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:34:02 2023 No.10416295 >>10416217 It's not the greatest of all time though, it's remarkably average. And we have enough three hour video essays and forum posts on the topic to cover multiple viewings of The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:36:01 2023 No.10416305 >>10416267 I found the Prime games to be terrible, so I'm not sure how that would alter my perception on the series. I'll try Super Metroid one day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:36:16 2023 No.10416309 Absolute clowns Disaffected loons Makes no sense. Do your best AVGN impression somewhere else Stop wasting time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:36:19 2023 No.10416310 >>10416295 If you've played other games from the era you'd know how good it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:38:10 2023 No.10416318 >>10416310 If you only played SNES games maybe, that's quite a low bar though. There were far better 16-bit action games before and after.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:39:30 2023 No.10416325 >>10416318 That's cool. Nobody really cares though

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:39:50 2023 No.10416327 >>10416318 No other action game from the time has the kind of depth SM has. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhs5UjaQAHQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:40:09 2023 No.10416328 >>10416305 >I found the Prime games to be terrible How in the fuck can someone think that

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:41:12 2023 No.10416330 >>10416327 >this empty hallway that you walk back and forth through 6 times has so much DEPTH!!! What a fucking joke.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:41:27 2023 No.10416332 >>10416318 It's an action-exploration game though. There are bosses, sure, but action is still not the focus. Metroid to action games is what SotN is to Classicvania

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:42:34 2023 No.10416337 >>10416330 How many other action games from the same era have an hour long explanation of the advanced mechanics within the game?

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:43:23 2023 No.10416339

>>10416332
SotN has good combat and challenging fights. Metroid tries to pass itself as an "action game" but can't actually offer any challenging boss fights, any depth to combat, or anything other than wandering empty hallways with braindead enemies, and having to revisit them several times. What a snooze fest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:45:15 2023 No.10416345 >>10416339 >SotN has good combat and challenging fights Why are you discussing games you've never played?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:47:25 2023 No.10416349 >>10416345 See >>10416289 No refutation. Super Metroid sucks and so does the shit console it's running on.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:48:22 2023 No.10416354

>>10416328
in the first one terrible bosses, uninteresting lock on combat (good note: it puts emphasis on dodging,) tons of long revtraversals through magmoor just to get to elevators, odd location to choose as the hub of the world but that's what it became, artifact hunt deflates momentum for the finale, a choice I don't believe added anything to the game.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:48:47 2023 No.10416357

>>10416339
>SotN has good combat and challenging fights
They are honestly not different from the ones in Super Metroid and beyond. Nigga they are EXPLORATION games, the character movement and action are built around the concept of exploration. They are not Mega Man X. If you don't like it then play Ninja Gaiden or Contra. You trying to say SotN is different from SM just makes me think you have a Nintendo hateboner

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:50:35 2023 No.10416360

>>10416349
I know the three or so ultra dedicated SNES haters are retarded but saying SotN of all games has good combat that is challenging no less is insane. You have to go out of your way to find a weapon that doesn't 1 or 2 shot bosses in that game.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 17:52:52 2023 No.10416364

>>10416327
I liked the movement but the level design doesn't take the full potential of the movement to its full potential, unlike mario where the designers started to explore what is possible with mario sandbox. It's cool to realize that mechanics like the mid-air shell jump have been intended by the designers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 19:02:15 2023 No.10416572 You like to dish it out but you can't take it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 19:07:12 2023 No.10416581 File: 193 KB, 279x358, Ultima_Underworld_cover.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10416162 >This game is so much larger in scope than any other game released at the time.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:18:19 2023 No.10416753

>>10416162
>This game is so much larger in scope than any other game released at the time. It feels like a complete game and not just a bunch of random levels glued together.
I don't know how much bigger it is than LttP, but it feels much bigger. It also accomplishes its dark scifi, Alien homage much better than Zelda feels like a real European fantasy world which it fails at by being too kiddy.

>>10416210
>Sick and tired of hearing about this game, fuck Super Metroid and fuck the rest of the series too.
Phony chump. If you were "sick of hearing about things" you'd be sick of Castlevania, Mega Man, and Zelda. The things that dominate this board

>>10416339
>SoTN
>Challenging
Lmfao.

Play Shinobi or Ninja Gaiden. Better yet if you must suck the tit of Castlevania, play Classicvania if you want to even begin to pretend to be an "action game guy". I bet you'd get wrecked in any fighter and any shmup would kick your ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:20:17 2023 No.10416760 super metroid is still a masterpiece the series as a whole sucks though the gba metroid games are some of the most overrated games ever developed

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:46:24 2023 No.10416838 >>10416760 >the gba metroid games are some of the most overrated games ever developed Better than weeaboovania

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:53:07 2023 No.10416865

>>10416345
>>10416360
>>10416753
Fucking idiot SNES fans don't understand the concept of RELATIVITY. No, SotN isn't hard in the grander scheme, but it does have fights that are challenging, to a FAR greater degree than Metroid, which practically plays itself. There is nothing even vaguely blocking you're path in Metroid, the same cannot be said of the far better, far more balanced SotN.
You just like easy games for toddlers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:57:29 2023 No.10416886 Play NEStroid you cowards

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:58:30 2023 No.10416892

>>10416865
>you like easy games
Sorry bro, if I'm gonna play Castlevania I'm playing Classicvania games that actually can be a little hard and actually aren't ripping off another franchise, PSX fucking sucks. I regularly beat games that would make you cry, with your fence sitting "half metroid half castlevania" garbage

Metroid isn't supposed to be super challenging, that's not why it's good. If I want a challenging game though, I'll play something like Contra Hard Corps, a game that would make ANYBODY who plays SoTN for the "challenging action" fucking weep

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:02:54 2023 No.10416909
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>>10416162
> This game is so much larger in scope than any other game released at the time.
It’s a great game but wtf, this is blatantly false, there’s hundreds of games larger in scope than super Metroid at that time. Frontier elite and ultima VII had been out for a few years already. Wtf is wrong with nintendrones?!?!?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:17:02 2023 No.10416935 >>10416892 castlevania appealed to fans of horror and dark fantasy. metroidvania appeals to fans of twilight and bishounen anime. you think you're talking reason to somebody of that demographic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:22:17 2023 No.10416951 >>10416865 Ridley is a much harder boss than anything in SotN.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:30:48 2023 No.10416975

>>10416892
My thing is that Metroid is good at being an adventure game, there's nothing else that feels as much like a space bounty hunter adventure excavating an alien planet. SOTN on the other hand, can't have that level of immersion because Castlevania never made sense as a "world", you accepted the old games as being action platformers with Mario logic of "this is an abstract world built on a theme", but when you try to make a serious adventure exploration game with a narrative out of it you can't be pulled into it, which is the point of this genre, because it's a completely nonsensical environment that only makes sense if you assume you're playing a character who took a heavy dose of LSD. SOTN like you said fails at being a hardcore action game like the old ones, so what is the point?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:33:02 2023 No.10416981 >>10416328 By not being an NPC crossdressing zillenial

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:44:03 2023 No.10417002 >>10416909 they dont play other games. they dont even play other games on nintendo hardware.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:45:23 2023 No.10417004 >>10416909 >Frontier elite and ultima VII Any games with remotely decent gameplay?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:46:38 2023 No.10417007 SotN > Super Metroid

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:52:06 2023 No.10417019 >>10417007 SotN requires you to teleport around and fly into corners of the map to fight the true final boss. The balancing is also nonexistent and it's difficult to not become insanely OP quickly. It's a classic but certainly a more flawed game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:52:33 2023 No.10417020 >>10417004 They both are great and have good gameplay for their respective genres, both are heralded as amazing games. You’re just stuck in a Nintendo bubble, keep trying to move the goalpost, nintendrone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:54:38 2023 No.10417023 >>10416162 the best banjovania on the snes

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:56:41 2023 No.10417026 >>10417020 Both of those games are insanely boring to actually play. Ultima in particular is a walking and reading sim.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 21:56:59 2023 No.10417028 I never liked it, or Earthbound. A lot of the big Nintendo classic games are trash. Mario and F-Zero are good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:00:02 2023 No.10417032 >>10417026 Did it ever occur to you that there are a lot of people who like sims? like I said, you’re a nintdrone living in a bubble. You only perceive gameplay from a lense of Nintendo ip’s.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:03:46 2023 No.10417039

>>10417032
>Did it ever occur to you that there are a lot of people who like sims?
People can like games with objectively boring gameplay. The gameplay will still be boring. Most people don't care about the size and scope of an incredibly dull playing game.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:06:45 2023 No.10417046

>>10416239
Funny enough, I'd like a Metroid 1 remake on SNES.
I believe Metroid 1 could run on MD, but could it run on Master System? What about Super Metroid running on MD?
I really find these ports pretty cool. I believe for MD we can program using C + ASM thanks to good libraries, I may give it a try trying to port SM to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:08:55 2023 No.10417048 >>10417039 tell us how they are mechanically dry and boring to play. you realize that gameplay is more involving than wahoo im moving in the movement. can you actually parse what gameplay is? or are you just full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:09:42 2023 No.10417052 >>10416838 >Better than weeaboovania Are there any on GBA? It feels like Metroidvania got bigger during the indie scene (way after GBA times) than before it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:11:22 2023 No.10417058

>>10417039
You think it’s boring, while others think backtracking in super Metroid is boring and it is boring. I like sim stuff, I like flying around planets in frontier then drifting near a space freighter in orbit looking at the different angles and how tiny my ship is in comparison. It’s not the same as Metroid, their gameplay aspects shouldn’t be compared. My whole point was that super Metroid isn’t the largest scoped game of the time, then you tried to move the goalpost, but all you can say is buzzwords without any real position on why these games are boring, thus rendering you the loser on two fronts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:15:12 2023 No.10417062 File: 3.62 MB, 532x300, Heartpounding excitement.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417048 When the game looks and plays like this, no amount of scope will make it interesting.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:17:27 2023 No.10417064

>>10417058
the systemic gameplay opportunities of ultima 5 and 7 are unrivaled. there is much more to our understanding of gameplay than simply that moment-to-moment notion. integrated depth is what matters. tourists dont care about any of this and opt to cry if the movement animation isnt to their liking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:18:38 2023 No.10417068 >>10417028 >Mario and F-Zero are good No, Metroid is good. Mario is fruity, Sonic is better and for cooler kids.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:18:53 2023 No.10417070 >>10417064 >integrated depth is what matters Actually having good gameplay is what matters. Not branching text dialogs or randomly generated planets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:22:13 2023 No.10417075 >>10417046 It's on Twitter. A Genesis Metroid remake demo only

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:22:59 2023 No.10417080

>>10417062
>the animation needs to be pretty or i dont like it
Lol of course as I write "if the movement animation isnt to their liking" this is literally what they mean. thats all it comes down to folks. not gameplay. they have no understanding or definition of what that means. an arbitrary bubble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:24:34 2023 No.10417083 >>10417080 How about the game needs good gameplay for me to like it. I don't care about the nonstop stupid dialog or whatever is supposed to redeem this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:27:37 2023 No.10417091 >>10417083 How about it needs to be made by someone with some sense and not think every main character/ protagonist needs to be a cartoon girl. Makes me want to throw up. Not everything has to be a cartoon animal or some ridiculous Japanese knockoff

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:30:31 2023 No.10417102 >>10416162 I didn't care for it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:35:33 2023 No.10417105

>>10417058
I don't know why you'd even bring up such games to compare then. When it comes to computer games vs. console games, it's like so dumb because it's just a different category. The only people playing such shit were like nerdy dads and uber nerdy rich kids in Beverly Hills. Average gamers were playing at arcades or on home console, the computer gaming world is its own thing most people never experienced, people heavily into computers experienced it and computers weren't even a thing all people had until around the 00s

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:37:50 2023 No.10417116 >>10417075 Can you send me a link for that tweet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:41:21 2023 No.10417124 >>10417105 >thing is not worth my time because i wasnt marketed to why even make this post. its 2023. if you dont have knowledge of classic computer games like ultima or doom you shouldnt even be on the board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:43:40 2023 No.10417132 >>10417105 See: >>10416162 Nothing in this post implies "console only games".

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:44:05 2023 No.10417137 >>10417124 Ultima is boring as shit and nobody played it for that reason. Everyone has played Doom because it has some of the best gameplay of all time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:51:22 2023 No.10417154 File: 78 KB, 256x224, newsimage2631a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10416162 It's a great demo for the better, longer, more challenging games that ROM hackers have made out of the engine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 22:52:36 2023 No.10417158 >>10416162 I heartily recommend replaying it with the MSU1 hack and the Super Metroid orchestral arrangement. Feels like a SNES CD game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 23:00:38 2023 No.10417176 >>10417154 >>10417158 >gen z with 00s nostalgia leave

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 23:28:30 2023 No.10417249 >>10417176 You're incoherent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 23:42:36 2023 No.10417285 >>10417137 >doom was made in response to ultima underworld you are one retarded motherfucker who keeps embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:06:32 2023 No.10417716 >>10416180 It's the equivalent of hearing the "near boss room" monster roaring sound in Zelda 1 for the first time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:07:50 2023 No.10417720 >>10416339 >SotN has good combat and challenging fights. It honestly has everything except those.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:11:07 2023 No.10417728

>>10416225
This board is almost entirely tendies. Reddit has better retro forums but because you can't say nigger there anons tell themselves this is better.

Super Metroid is overrated. It has some fun moments but in general it's bland and far too easy. People who claim it's the greatest of all time are just repeating what their ecelebs told them. Earthworm Jim is the better sci fi platformer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:12:07 2023 No.10417729 >>10417728 What are you doing here, then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:14:56 2023 No.10417739 >>10417728 >literally outs himself as a redditard Jesus

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:14:57 2023 No.10417740 >>10417105 Read the first sentence in the OP. You stupid shit stained penis wrinkle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:16:02 2023 No.10417741 it's 32 megabits so it should be pretty fucking ginormous

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:16:15 2023 No.10417743 >>10417124 Go back to the codex, amigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:17:54 2023 No.10417745 >>10417743 Permanently mogged and buck broken by yuropoor micros

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:20:02 2023 No.10417753 >>10417739 4chan literally stole all its good content from reddit. You're too young to remember /fatpeoplehate so I don't blame you really. >>10417729 Discussing super Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:20:59 2023 No.10417757 >>10417753 I'd say you're less discussing it and more trying to convince others it's inferior to Earthworm Jim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:24:19 2023 No.10417760 File: 3.48 MB, 250x227, Rob_Carmilla_Laura_Drain_Kiss（Laura）.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417753 >4chan literally stole all its good content from reddit reddit didn't even exist when 4chan was good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:33:11 2023 No.10417776 >>10417760 its all from gamefaqs and somethingawful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:33:14 2023 No.10417778 File: 17 KB, 271x366, Alien3_game_cover_art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417757 It is inferior. There's a lot of superior sci fi platformers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:34:16 2023 No.10417779 >>10417778 So then you're less discussing Super Metroid and more focusing on other games that cater to your own preferences.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:34:38 2023 No.10417780 File: 44 KB, 480x360, 6232C107-CBC3-4EF7-B569-6F5BAAF4E37A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417776 Kek, you’re trying to hard, kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:36:01 2023 No.10417784 >>10417778 Best sci fi platformer is super street fighter 2010: the final fight, followed by super Star Wars return of the Jedi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:39:41 2023 No.10417796 >>10417779 >cater to your own preference >preferring games with better music, graphics, pacing, difficulty, basically everything

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:40:12 2023 No.10417797 >>10417796 Yes, your own preferences.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:40:15 2023 No.10417798 File: 10 KB, 320x256, flashback_10.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417779 Discussing why Metroid is underwhelming is still discussing Metroid. Pic related is a vastly better environmentally ambient sci-fi game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:41:32 2023 No.10417806 >>10417797 What do you bring to this thread? Nothing. Get lost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:41:59 2023 No.10417807 >>10417798 flashback is a molasses game. you do understand what separates these two....right anon?

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:44:00 2023 No.10417815

>>10417806
I will not. I would rather talk about Super Metroid. I love the granular control over my run speed, and how I can accelarate a little and use that to jump extra high. If you use that in conjunction with wall jumps you can go damn near anywhere you want.

I don't care much for bomb jumping though, I'm dogshit at timing the inputs and the bomb fuse feels like it takes too long. Some ROM hacks dramatically shorten the fuse to the point where bomb jumping is effortless, and I think that's taking it too far. Though I do like it when some ROM hacks add a function where holding down and pressing fire will place a bomb that immediately detonates, it makes checking for secrets and going through tunnels a very smooth process.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:44:03 2023 No.10417816

>>10417798
While I agree that flashback has a nice atmosphere and aesthetic, it’s not as engaging as metroid can be. I say can be, because the amount of backtracking makes resident evil look like paperboy. My point is, Metroid has a certain it’s own cool things going on too. It’s a pretty unique alien idea and Samus’s suit make Batman jealous and it’s got some kind platforming areas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:45:32 2023 No.10417820 >>10417816 Certain grittiness* kino platforming*

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:47:15 2023 No.10417823 >>10416162 Can we all just admit that Metroid is mega man + resident evil

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:47:35 2023 No.10417824 >>10417823 But Resident Evil didn't exist back then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:49:24 2023 No.10417830 >>10417824 Ok faggot then resident evil = metroid -megaman

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:51:59 2023 No.10417835 You think we'll see X-Fusion next year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 02:58:48 2023 No.10417859 >>10417815 >you can go anywhere you want Removing all difficulty. There's a few jumps I enjoy like this section but youre given infinite attempts as theres no punushment for failing. Overall the entire games a cake walk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:01:10 2023 No.10417863 >>10417859 >removing all difficulty Not quite. There are some areas designed with having stronger armor and more energy tanks. Going through those areas can be notably more difficult.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:02:04 2023 No.10417868

>>10417728
Earthworm Jim is shit. You're not even a real Sega fan, fuck off and stop claiming MY console you uber autistic. You and the Ultima/Zelda retard are two of the biggest autists here along with Tekken 3 tard.

>>10417798
I own Flashback, it's literally nobodies favorite game ever and no kid ever played through it all the way.

Cinematic platformers are stupid.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:04:14 2023 No.10417872

>>10417868
I like Flashback and I think it has the best combat of any of the cinematic platformers. It just sucks it doesn't get enough time to shine other than the death/cyber tower level. Fighting the aliens in the final level sucks too as they're like the only enemy that deals contact damage, they have a shitload of i-frames and are generally a fucking nuisance.
Comparing it to any of the Metroid games is a nonsensical take though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:08:15 2023 No.10417884 >>10416210 >>10416260 >>10416572 >>10417002 This

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:09:11 2023 No.10417887

>Explore unknown and hostile alien world
>Find the item you were looking for amidst the chaotic fighting and brief moments of reprieve
>Whoops now you gotta go all the way back instead of moving forwards with your adventure and discovering new things
Why? It just feels like busywork. It's like I'm clocking in on my shift to fight the same enemies on the same locations over and over. Castlevania didn't need to do this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:11:46 2023 No.10417890 >>10417872 Flashback is a dog turd. Real Sega fans like Shinobi and Sonic, not fucking gay shovelware only autistics pretend to like.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:14:10 2023 No.10417897

>>10417890
I don't care much for the Sonic games. Shinobi's good, Kid Chameleon is good, Mega Turrican is pretty good.
You know, come to think of it, one game I think that has some of the same DNA as Super Metroid would be Phantom 2040. Any of you fuckers play that? It's pretty cool though I feel like the story beats kinda interfere with exploring and blowing shit up.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:14:29 2023 No.10417901

>>10417890
yeah i'm sick of the faggots here who pretend shitty games are good because they don't have a personality, literally hipsters who pretend bad music is good, pure cancer

if you don't like super metroid, you don't like games period, just posing

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:18:08 2023 No.10417912

>>10417901
The anti-Metroid retard is transparent. He will always defend Genesis, but also Playstation. It doesn't make sense and you're right it is posing, because if you like 16 bit games....you like 16 bit games. It isn't real taste to only like 16 bit games by one company, then all the sudden prefer Playstation games as well. He's lying about his taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:32:30 2023 No.10417947 File: 8 KB, 256x224, images (12).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417863 Forgot to post the area i was talking about. Anon those areas are only difficult if you attempt them in base suit which is purely an autistic players style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:33:54 2023 No.10417951 >>10417947 Having low energy tanks still applies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:36:01 2023 No.10417953 >>10417912 in the last year or so, there has been a giant influx of ps1/ps2 related shitposting/circle jerking as well as n64 and gamecube too. its born between '87-00 newfags ruining this board, i wish there was real age limit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:38:14 2023 No.10417960 >>10417912 in the last year or so, there has been a giant influx of ps1/ps2 related shitposting/circle jerking as well as n64 and gamecube too. its born between '97-'00 newfags ruining this board, i wish there was real age limit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:50:04 2023 No.10417989 >>10416909 he means platformers, dipshit. not overhead games or rpgs apart from phantom 2040 and eternal city (the pc engine game thats like a metroid version of thexder), there aren't any other 16-bit games that are similar in scope

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:51:22 2023 No.10417992
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>>10417951
It really doesn't as you can just about always farm health.
>>10417868
>Earthworm Jim is shit.
Apart from the less than perfect controls what about it is shit? Hardmode use your own opinion. And it's nuts how you label anyone anti Metroid if they don't agree with your ecelebs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 03:57:18 2023 No.10418010 File: 2.96 MB, 2240x2573, 20231116_145535.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417868 >Cinematic platformers are stupid I mean it's obvious you have bad taste when you bash ewj but yeah you are wrong about cinematic platformers, as usual.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 04:01:54 2023 No.10418016 >>10416239 >Js. please kill yourself

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 04:03:19 2023 No.10418017

>>10417992
EWJ is style over substance, like most games with toon styles, animation takes precedent over gameplay.

>>10418010
Once again you out yourself as a phony with fake taste, you bitch about how Super Metroids combat isn't hard enough all thread only to prop up games like Flashback. You're full of shit, and I highly doubt you beat any real intensive action games with demanding combat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 04:08:00 2023 No.10418031 >>10418017 You really shouldn't engage with that guy, he does this in nearly every Super Metroid game. You're better off just talking about some ROM hacks for Super Metroid.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 04:13:48 2023 No.10418040
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>>10418017
>animation takes precedent over gameplay.
You need good animation to make a game great. NES Battletoads has great gameplay and its cartoony graphics push it into legendary status.
>Once again you out yourself as a phony with fake taste, you bitch about how Super Metroids combat isn't hard enough all thread only to prop up games like Flashback. You're full of shit, and I highly doubt you beat any real intensive action games with demanding combat.
I've never played Flashback but all the other games I've discussed so far I have played to death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 04:22:15 2023 No.10418060 >>10416892 >I'm playing Classicvania games that actually can be a little hard and actually aren't ripping off another franchise They're ripping off GnG.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:06:57 2023 No.10418182 >>10418040 Battletoads is shit. Streets of Rage 2 is better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:19:21 2023 No.10418228 >>10418182 They're two different types of games.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:22:05 2023 No.10418237

>>10418228
A lot closer to being the same kind of game than Metroid and Earthworm Jim, retard. And it's funny you have this narrative of Metroid being some game held up only by reputation and not quality, when that's literally all Battleturds is. A shitty fucking game that's only "LOL DUDE IT WAS CHEAP, AND IT RIPPED OFF TMNT LOL" and nobody really cares or thinks it's great otherwise. There is not one person on Earth who lists Battleturds as their favorite game regardless of what label you want to put on it. It's not an all time great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:22:15 2023 No.10418239 >>10417741 >32 megabits Actually, it was 24 megabits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:33:29 2023 No.10418261 Metroid > Zelda Metroid > Castlevania

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 05:46:56 2023 No.10418287 >>10418237 >he thinks Battletoads is a beat em up Cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 06:02:33 2023 No.10418324 >>10418287 >Cool Something you'll never be, sperg.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 06:13:10 2023 No.10418342 If you don't think Super Metroid is a good game you're mentally retarded.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 06:30:47 2023 No.10418375

>>10416364
true but like with mario world that's what romhacks are for.
>>10416345
i mean the combat is good, loads of variety and frankly i'd say it's technically better than any troid not named dread, the only issue is the game doesn't really give you a reason to engage with it beyond having fun. the real questionable term is "wandering empty hallways with braindead enemies" like lol.
>>10416354
getting around in the 2d games is a lot faster (you can even run manually in super) and there's nothing like the artifact hunt in em either, try it out mang.
>>10417052
aria of sorrow is really fucking good. i haven't played the other two but apparently they're the weakest of the bunch compared to sotn and the ds trilogy and that steam game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 06:46:25 2023 No.10418413 >>10416239 There is a hack that is trying to do this. I don't know if it is possible or not

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 07:25:26 2023 No.10418486 >>10418324 I will beat the fuck out of you auster. Name a time and place and we will fight it out, in Minecraft.

>>	Chud Anon Thu Nov 16 07:32:12 2023 No.10418502 >>10418486 World trade center, september 11 2001

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 08:44:42 2023 No.10418615 >>10418486 Zoomer humor isn't funny, and you don't belong here. Go back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 09:58:55 2023 No.10418719 >>10417760 >Reddit was launched in 2005 So 4chan was good for only 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 14:47:33 2023 No.10419224 >>10416162 Encountering the phantoon scared the shit out of me when I was six (1996), playing it on my own back then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 18:34:48 2023 No.10419789 >>10419224 I've always hated one eyed monsters the most

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 04:12:02 2023 No.10421267 If I describe it as an "open world 2D game" you will immediately think less of it while being unable to refute the label.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 04:21:16 2023 No.10421295 >>10416162 Empty and drab as fuck. And then the credits roll. /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 05:01:34 2023 No.10421374 >>10416275 Yeah the whole metroid genre is shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 05:11:44 2023 No.10421387 >>10421267 ah yes all those open world games where you famously... go get items in one area and then come back to another area.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 05:40:18 2023 No.10421437 >>10419224 >admitting you're a zoomer publicly >>10421295 There's nothing wrong with games being open and empty. Have you forgotten the greatest game of all time Oot?

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 05:44:37 2023 No.10421450

>>10416162
These threads are pointless. Zoomers weren't there. Their parents hadn't even met or fucked yet. The people that were there already know how good the game is. The zoomers that weren't there will criticize it because they are retards don't know shit. They will never understand how good this game is. They use relative comparisons (dread is better etc) but they are faggots and its akin to saying spears are shit because we have guns now. Goddamn I hate zoomer faggots.

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:09:26 2023 No.10421493

>>10421450
>already know how good the game is
I got it for Christmas in 94 and constantly trash it. If you've played it to death you would know it's not even close to being a 10/10 when it's weapons are convoluted, bosses are all far too easy and the exploration side of the game boils down to using the xray scope in every single room you've ever been to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:19:24 2023 No.10421512 >>10416210 Gonna cry?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:28:37 2023 No.10421529 >>10421493 How are the weapons convoluted?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:30:36 2023 No.10421537 >>10421493 Bro, you're a LARPer and you defend trash like Ultima, SOTN and Zelda. Fuck outta here baby gamer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:33:26 2023 No.10421540 >>10421537 yeah the faggot ITT keeps talking about "hard games" but doesn't even play action games in the first place. it's a cancerous zelda homo who also hates jrpgs because he's a baby mush brained tard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:34:53 2023 No.10421545 >>10421540 It's also a Zoomer who's obsessed with "late 90s nostalgia" and pretends to be a Millennial.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 06:39:14 2023 No.10421556 >>10416162 This game is better than any Zelda game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 09:53:40 2023 No.10421834 >>10416162 The scope is well below WRPGs released at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:09:35 2023 No.10421858 >>10416183 Why do you try so hard to not have friends?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:23:12 2023 No.10421881 >>10421529 Most people won't even figure out how to use half of samus' abilities. >>10421537 >>10421540 I trash Alttp and oot/mm as well. And I do hate most jrpg's. Not sure where you got the idea I dislike hard action games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:29:29 2023 No.10421886 >>10421881 My question stands: How are the weapons convoluted?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:35:59 2023 No.10421895 >>10416162 You tendies need to play more games for fucks sake. "Bigger scope than any other game at the time" like Jesus, you always have to go for the most moronic hyperbolic statements. Fucking Ultima VII existed back then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:48:01 2023 No.10421920 >>10421886 I answered you. I will repeat, the fact 99% of players failed to figure them out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:48:49 2023 No.10421923 >>10421895 >Fucking Ultima VII existed back then. That barely even counts as a game given how shit it plays

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:52:09 2023 No.10421929

>>10421920
That's not answering how the weapons are convoluted, you're just making a vague statement about Samus' moveset. Her weapons are pretty goddamn simple seeing as you just press the fire button to make things dead, and hold it to make things deader when you get the charge beam.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:54:40 2023 No.10421931 File: 6 KB, 256x224, images (13).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10421929 >simple You fall into the 99% I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 10:55:23 2023 No.10421934 >>10421931 I know about the extra charge attacks with the power bombs, and the crystal flash. But those aren't necessary to complete the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 11:02:30 2023 No.10421946 >>10421934 >But those aren't necessary Nothing is necessary outside of morph ball. What you're doing is defending Mortal Kombat style fatality inputs being used for her attacks but since the game is so easy you just brush it off.

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 11:04:33 2023 No.10421949

>>10421946
You crouch and hold a charge shot with a power bomb equipped and a single beam. The crystal flash isn't an attack so I don't care about that here. I want to focus on her weapons specifically. So the most convoluted input is holding the fire button while crouched.

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 11:10:17 2023 No.10421958

>>10421949
>You crouch and hold a charge shot with a power bomb equipped and a single beam.
You say this as if it were a simple thing everyone could figure out instantly despite it never being explained in game. Her shoulder tackle and bomb jumping are also overly difficult.
>The crystal flash isn't an attack so I don't care about that here.
>it's not needed
>plus it's not an attack
It's not an attack but you can't even admit it's overly complicated. How is anyone suppose to figure this shit out outside of randomly mashing.

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 11:16:07 2023 No.10421963
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>>10421958
Bomb jumping is bullshit, I'm not going to argue that. The fuse is too long. I'm only arguing about the inputs required for triggering the charge combos. As for actually discovering them, yeah, it's some playground shit that one kid would make up. Same thing with the crystal flash. I've said all I wanted about the inputs of the weapons.
As for the input for the crystal flash, yeah that's bullshit too. You can see Samus perform the flash during one of the title screen demos, and I haven't a clue how a kid is going to find out how to pull that shit off.

I don't think performing a diagonal shinespark is particularly troublesome, seeing as you can just hold R and fire it off by pressing jump. I still find horizontal sparks troublesome at times, seeing as the shinespark gets armed the moment you press jump with no other inputs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 11:54:25 2023 No.10422016 >>10421923 Yeah you always have an excuse as to why non-Nintendo games can't be trailblazers

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 17:33:33 2023 No.10422753

>>10416162
It always amazes me that despite the MetroidVania genre being so popular with indies, the games that were the founding fathers to the genre have never got to sell as well as they should have. Super Metroid really was a humongous leap in quality compared to everything that came before it. It is so far above practically all action platformers of the time that to compare it in DBZ terms it would be like matching up Buu against Saiyan saga era power levels. Its just not fair of a comparison because Super Metroid is far superior.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 00:26:37 2023 No.10423869 >>10416886 >PLAY MY REPEAT ROOM GAME no

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 01:47:04 2023 No.10424105 >>10421958 >hOw wAs I sUpPoSeD tO kNoW- Disregarded. I view anyone who makes this complaint as less than a fleck of shit. Total zoomer mindset. Why would I ever respect someone that gets frustrated like this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 04:56:48 2023 No.10424618 File: 73 KB, 564x1002, m2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10417887 Honestly I preferred 2's approach. Keep advancing through a tunnel, with each side chamber being an open area to explore non-linearly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:01:29 2023 No.10424629 >>10416162 GOAT adventure game of the 16 bit era. The Zelda games feel like a cheap saturday morning cartoon from the 80s by comparison.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:04:27 2023 No.10424634 >>10424105 You never played the game reddit boy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:52:41 2023 No.10424784 >>10416182 wtf are you talking about? metroidvanias/willy-likes are very popular right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:56:20 2023 No.10424792 >>10417716 Or Dracula's laughter in Castlevania 3 password screen. Or "Blades of Steel!" The NES was capable of playing samples and nobody realized it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 06:01:00 2023 No.10424804 i only play samus.link i've never played super metroid on its own

Anonymous Sat Nov 18 07:24:48 2023 No.10424967

>>10417859
Difficulty in games isn't about how much a game can beat up a beginner player, because if that was the case, Mega Man X3 would be the hardest Mega Man game (despite being one of the easiest once you know what you're doing). Getting good at a Metroid game is usually harder than quite a few other games, even if still nothing too difficult, and some fights can be legitimately challenging if you don't just tank them with energy tanks (like Phantoon, Ridley and the first phase of Mother Brain)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 10:01:17 2023 No.10425204 >>10416162 why do people never shut the fuck up about how good this is? played it on snes9x for a bit, i dont get the appeal doom 2 and x-com came out the same year as this

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 19:17:42 2023 No.10426386 Yeah I got this for xmas 94 and finished the game in the late spring of 95. The atmosphere is insane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 19:19:28 2023 No.10426391 >>10426386 getting stuck in the game and being forced into searching for secret passages was a highlight. what an adventure

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 20:03:06 2023 No.10426501 >>10426391 >getting stuck Go play the GBA games then, us 90s kids could navigate a game that doesn't hold your hand though. We didn't have adhd from being stir crazy and terminally online. >>10425204 Stick to fortnite and roblox.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 20:53:29 2023 No.10426593 >>10426501 I got stuck in the game when I played it in late 94. I think I got stuck in Brinstar for the first time.

Anonymous Sat Nov 18 22:07:26 2023 No.10426795

like super mario bros 1 it's a game where the premise is fully realized in the way it plays. In mario you do actually feel an athlete carefully controlling your momentum, in super metroid you do feel like you're piloting around in a full fleged powersuit in a strange alien place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 22:11:15 2023 No.10426807 >>10426501 >us 90s kids could navigate a game that doesn't hold your hand though. super absolutely holds your hand even if it has a few tricky spots like maridia. very few games in the 90s didn't streamline the hell out of navigation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 19 09:08:51 2023 No.10428324 >>10426501 >Stick to fortnite and roblox. what? since when did i imply im a lobotomized toddler?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 19 12:29:44 2023 No.10428623 >>10424634 >nonsense shitpost because he lost a meaningless internet slapfight Continue getting unreasonably upset at video games.

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