/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10402715]

Sega had 5 years to make their own version of The Legend of Zelda and this was the best they could do? Boring enemies, sloppy combat, bad hit detection, unimaginative dungeons and a forgettable OST.
I really wanted to love this but all it does is make me want to play the original Zelda instead. Is Crystalis any better?

[Anonymous No.10402728]

>Boring enemies, sloppy combat, bad hit detection, unimaginative dungeons and a forgettable OST.
Zelda 1 also had those.

[Anonymous No.10402739]

>>10402728
false

[Anonymous No.10402785]

Crusader of Centy is just Zelda but better.

[Anonymous No.10402808]

>>10402785
I thought Crusader of Centy was pretty bland, but I did enjoy Beyond Oasis

[Anonymous No.10403043]

>>10402715
This is bait

[Anonymous No.10403064]

Golden Axe Warrior comes so close to being great. Sponge enemies and being stuck with a 2 button controller hold it back so much.

[Anonymous No.10403114]

>>10402715
It's like zelda, but good.

[Anonymous No.10403195]

I'd almost argue that Shining Wisdom demonstrates everything wrong with Saturn development, on top of partially wanting to be a Zelda clone.

>>10402785
CoC has some of the Quality of life stuff.
But it really lacks ambition to make the dungeons harder, which you can do once you get a game with high levels of quality control.

[Anonymous No.10403703]

>>10403195
let me get this straight, Sega released an A Link to the Past clone when nintendo had put out Ocarina of Time?

[Anonymous No.10403725]

>>10403703
You betcha and as much as I don't want to defend Nintendo, that's pretty fucking retarded and gross of Sega.

[Anonymous No.10403734]

>>10403703
>>10403725
Huh?
1991 - Link to the Past
1994 - Centy
1995 - Shining Wisdom
1998 - Ocarina of Time

[Anonymous No.10403735]

>>10402715
Who cares, Zelda is overrated as shit
>hurr durr lets combine a knigh with an elf cause we cant into fantasy
>hurr durrr, bland barren landscapes, this epic fantasy world is just dirt and shrubs
>hurr durr, no not real creatures of myth you gaijin! we have pigs, ropes, and anime octopusses

And Zeldas combat isn't good, the point of Zelda is exploration, the combat is just "swing at shit" same as most other games of its ilk I'm getting sick of Zelda fans acting like they're masters of video game combat, you don't play hardcore combative games give it up.

[Anonymous No.10403737]

>>10403703
>>10403725
Hold your horses, that games released in august 95.
If you want to complain about Sega being slow, you should remember their answer to castlevania before bloodlines showed up.

[Anonymous No.10403738]

>>10403735
Based and correct

[Anonymous No.10403745]

>>10403737
Woah, I didnt forget quest 64, I'm just comparing design quality. If I want to play quality Sega games I'll go play outrun 2 and afterburner climax and maybe s3&k. I'm not playing fucking shining wisdom or crusader of centy. Oot and all to and LA and aol wipe the floor with Sega Zelda clones. But I'm also not going to play f zero or starfox.

[Anonymous No.10403749]

>>10403745
Ugh, why is OutRun 2 so good. It's like dangerously good
Haven't played Afterburner Climax yet, how is it?

[Anonymous No.10403757]

>>10403725
lmao tendies really make shit like this

[Anonymous No.10403761]

>>10403749
>How is it
Fucking amazing

[Anonymous No.10403762]

>>10403745
Make your post clearer next time, because what you typed specifically talked about sega taking too long to make their answer to Alttp

[Anonymous No.10403767]

>>10403757
No, I made it and I own 2 Sega Saturns a genesis and 3 Dreamcasts...but I also own. A Nintendo 3 sufamis an N64 and GBA sp. So, idk I just do t gold loyalties to corporations andike making fun of both sides. I also made this(picrel), so you decide?

[Anonymous No.10405118]

>>10403703
No.
But its still a showcase of everything wrong with SEGA as a developer and contractor
>Enhanced megadrive port to Saturn, with a 3 button control scheme when gameplay is going to be 90% going into the menu to reequip items in the one equipment slot, as opposed to getting 3, 4 or 5 due the new controlled layout
>Lacking the internal foresight/structure to not make it a Saturn game in development to what is essentially a 2nd party developer

[Anonymous No.10405549]

>>10403725
>I coulda been a Nintendo
Sega would never say that since they smoked Nintendo with every console they put out outside of gameboy and maybe NES.

[Anonymous No.10405576]

>>10405549
Yeah, they smoked Nintendo so hard that they had to stop making consoles and get bought by a pachinko company. Really stunning victory there lmao

[Anonymous No.10405591]

>>10402715
Play this and learn just how bad things can get in the world of zelda clones.

[Anonymous No.10406175]

>>10405576
Cope. They got mogged. So hard in fact, they were shitting their pants and copying Sega's marketing style because they were fearing they weren't cool anymore. And still failed.

[Anonymous No.10406670]

>>10403735
The combat in Zelda isn't great, but it is noticeably better and more satisfying than the combat in Golden Axe Warrior. As for your other complaints, just sounds like you have a raging hateboner for Zelda and need to cool your autism

[Anonymous No.10406687]

>>10402715
>Is Crystalis any better?

Crystalis is good, one of the better Zelda likes on the system; however it's more linear than Zelda: you're dropped into fields which lead to 2-3 places, but if you go to the "wrong" place first you'll find yourself stuck or even be able to explore the place a little but not clear it etc
Melee combat sucks however but you can spell charge your sword. Which is what you're going to be doing 99% of the time. It looks like a sword but it's more like a gun you have to reload.

Definitely worth playing even if there are a couple of annoying segments imo. also who ever started the rumour that there is only one way to kill the final boss is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.10406690]

>>10406175
Failed so hard that they are on top in 2023

[Anonymous No.10406702]

>>10406175
>CoPe. tHeY gOt MoGgEd
For a time, sure, now explain why the Dreamcast couldn't repair what the 32X and poor Western sales of the Saturn had done to much of Sega's credibility as a console maker.

[Anonymous No.10406714]

>>10406690
They'll always be on top so long as they keep saying "we're not competing with anybody." 1st out of 1.

>>10406702
Poor financial decisions. Sega gets mogged in terms of actually running a business. That's what happens when you're run by humans and not bots.

[Anonymous No.10406736]

>>10406714
>1st out of 1
Look at this asshurt.
>Just keep saying it just keep saying it just keep saying it, JUST KEEP SAYING "we're not competing with anybody!! hahahaha"

[Anonymous No.10406753]

>>10406670
>but it is noticeably better and more satisfying than the combat in Golden Axe Warrior

[Anonymous No.10406783]

>>10406690
>on top in 2023
Let's be honest, this isn't a compliment. Nothing popular in the last ten years is good.

[Anonymous No.10406789]

>>10406736
Their words, not mine. Take it up with Captain Mario

[Anonymous No.10406802]

There is an alternate universe where Sega came out on top and Nintendo became the third party. Its is a dark place where everyone is evil and has a beard.

[Anonymous No.10406803]

>>10406753
It is, I played one right after the other. It was like night and day.

[Anonymous No.10406804]

>>10406802
Think you've got it backwards. We're living in the dark place.

[Anonymous No.10406964]

>>10402715
I disagree, I'm humming the ost right now. Zelda seems primitive in presentation after playing this but the game play is about the same. Only thing better is Zelda has more buttons but golden axe added towns with hidden stuff.

>>10406670
I never had issues in either

[Anonymous No.10408229]

>>10405591
its not bad. low iq take.

[Anonymous No.10408236]

>>10406687
melee is fine you need to wear the jump boots i love this game

[Anonymous No.10410469]

>>10402715
>forgettable OST
stopped reading there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqd-O1J7IqM

[Anonymous No.10410480]

[Anonymous No.10410484]

>>10403737
>you should remember their answer to castlevania before bloodlines showed up.
Was this that Chakon game? I hear its actually alright. A weird game but still alright.