/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10375505]

Why did the xbox brand fail in japan?

[Anonymous No.10375517]

No jarpigs

[Anonymous No.10375521]

>wait, you mean the rest of the world also makes video games now?
>hahaha they sure took a long time to catch up this oughta be shit

Is probably what 99% of the self-centered nationalist population thought when saying this

[Anonymous No.10375526]

they couldn't wrap their tiny asian hands around the big black controller

[Anonymous No.10375543]

>>10375505
hambaga, ekkusubokkusu

[Anonymous No.10375554]

They're better at math, so instead of turning 360 degrees and walking away, they turned 180.

[Anonymous No.10375612]

>>10375505
I think we don't think of this much, but all the biggest consoles gen 3-5 were Japanese after all. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 etc. were "theirs". needless to say, Japan has strong preference for their national stuff. xbox was going against the current pretty much. of course, Japanese devs also favored Japanese consoles, and probably had established relations with Ninty / Sony. as a result, the console had less Japan-oriented games.
but not only that. xbox was the halo machine. this is not an exaggeration, see picrel: Halo 2 and 1 were the biggest sellers by far and nothing came close. and Japan didn't care about FPS at all. Goldeneye / PD weren't very popular there, and Metroid Prime pretty much flopped. beyond that, XB only had Fable, a WRPG, and mostly dudebro games.
so xbox was doomed from the start.

[Anonymous No.10375625]

>>10375612
>Burger King game
>third highest selling game on console

[Anonymous No.10375824]

>>10375612
prime isn't an fps

[Anonymous No.10375825]

>>10375505
the msx era and hosing their devs/customers
you cant repeatedly rape your consumer base and expect to win the war

[Anonymous No.10375828]

japs are xenophobic assholes, janny'll ban me but it's the true answer so i don't care.

[Anonymous No.10375832]

>>10375828
this is a revisionist take though
msx sold quite well in moonruneland

[Anonymous No.10375845]

>>10375824
b8

[Anonymous No.10375847]

>>10375832
msx would never have taken off if there weren't some symbolic yamato damashi paint slapped onto it, you really underestimate how autistic japs are about buying shit from outside their irrelevant country

[Anonymous No.10375856]

>>10375505
A few reasons:
1) games
2) they were completing against established brands who had better games
3) when Japanese devs gave them a chance (360 era) their consoles were literally garbage and committed suicide, so the few customers who tried the console quickly went back to the other brands and word spread. Then Japanese devs gave up on them as a result.

[Anonymous No.10375857]

>>10375845
yeah you shoot in first person but that's just how you play, it's an adventure game
callin it an fps is like callin sotn an action platformer because you sidescroll and jump

[Anonymous No.10375869]

>>10375832
This, not to mention ipod and apple products sold like crazy there

[Anonymous No.10375875]

>>10375832
This. Japanese people love American brands.

[Anonymous No.10375937]

>>10375857
Montezuma's Return is a first-person adventure game. Metroid Prime is an FPS.
Prime is in first person (barring some minor morph balling) and shooting is the core mechanic. It's featured in nearly every room, it's the focus of all the bosses, and it's even how you open doors to travel between areas.
The game has its design quirks like more interconnected levels, backtracking, and platforming, than is usual for the genre, but it's not enough to break out of its FPS grouping because of the combat emphasis.
Japan wasn't fooled by the Nintendo PR spin that tried to make it sound like the game was some kind of snowflake, and it's sad that you were.

[Anonymous No.10376002]

>>10375505
It didn't. The sales numbers are all lies. Sony realized that the it's not about creating content, it's about creating context. People buy the console on top of the sales charts not realizing the charts are made up.

[Anonymous No.10376056]

>>10376002
Nobody in Japan cares about PlayStation anymore. People care about games and the PlayStation has none. Back in the /vr/ days Japanese people cared about the PlayStation because it actually had games (and a lot of them)

[Anonymous No.10376398]

>>10375505
Same why playstation brand failed in japan. Japanese customers dont buy westaboo goyslop.

[Anonymous No.10376447]

>>10375505
Too American.

[Anonymous No.10376471]

>>10375505
it really feels like only tecmo and mysteriously japanese shmup developers took to the Xbox

[Anonymous No.10376481]

>>10376471
Arcade games moved from dedicated boards to just being windows PC's with DRM, so it was extremely easy to port stuff like mushihime to the Xbox. That's why the 360 was seen as the "serious gamer console" in Japan.

[Anonymous No.10376489]

>>10375625
They were sold for very cheap and IIRC, people said it was the best of the bunch at the time

[Anonymous No.10376490]

>>10376481
but x360 used PowerPC though, right?

[Anonymous No.10376501]

>>10376490
yes, no idea what that guy is talking about
i do believe it was still seen as the console for online gaming in japan though, yeah. lot of cod, ran multiplats better.

[Anonymous No.10376560]

The point of the original Xbox was to give you some semblance of the big-budget expensive PC gaming experience in a console form. Japanese players have not really been into that kind of shit until relatively recently and the ones who were just owned gaming PCs.

People (especially zoomers) forget that PC gaming wasn't some accessible shit you got into with just $800. When the Xbox came out, a comparable PC setup probably would have run you somewhere in the ballpark of $1500-$2000 even at entry-level.

[Anonymous No.10376569]

>>10376490
While the 360 used PowerPC, it was still much easier to port games to it from PC than the PS3 so he's not entirely wrong.

[Anonymous No.10376668]

>>10375505
did you not get the answer the liked the other 25 times you've made this exact thread?

[Anonymous No.10376682]

>>10376668
what's more tiresome, "why xbox failed in japan" threads or "could the saturn succeed any other way" threads?

[Anonymous No.10376701]

>>10376682
>N64 hidden gems/recs?

[Anonymous No.10376707]

>>10375505
Racism, already established local brands, the games didn't appeal to the Japanese market, their tiny hands legitimately couldn't hold the Duke controller properly. Xbox really fucked up. Should have advertised the Xbox with a more Japanese spin with more Japanese people. A Jap sees Bill Gates and only sees the devil.

[Anonymous No.10376907]

>>10376707
>racism
Yeah, fucking Japanese racists with their Windows PCs and their iPhones. Western products can never succeed in such a xenophobic country.

[Anonymous No.10376923]

>>10375612
These are pretty sad numbers, even when jammed with western slop. Had no idea Xbox was this dire.

[Anonymous No.10376927]

>>10376707
As an U.S. American, I want it to be known that "the Duke" controller fit snuggly in my rectum.

[Anonymous No.10376932]

>>10375625
To be fair it was really good.

[Anonymous No.10376934]

>>10375505
because of this ad

[Anonymous No.10376947]

>>10375526
Is this AI generated or did someone actually build this? Because it looks fucking ace.

[Anonymous No.10376962]

>>10375625
It was an actual good game and it was also a very early release so for a while it was among the best exclusives on the system.

[Anonymous No.10376967]

>>10376962
The Burger King games were very late releases that also worked on the 360.

[Anonymous No.10376969]

>>10376682
>>10376668
... I was about to point out that at least he is not making another "Saturn can/could" thread.

[Anonymous No.10377009]

>>10375505
It failed because the console was larger than some Tokyo apartments. In the same space that the Xbox takes, you could fit a PS2, a Dreamcast, and two Gamecubes.
360 was a better attempt especially with the optional region coding and shitload of japanese shmups, but the console was still huge, plus it red ringed a lot, and the only game the japs wanted to play on launch (DOA4) was delayed. There were even hentai doujins where Kasumi or Ayane end up raped as punishment for missing the launch (I think it was either by Nekoi Mie or Hellabunna). Oh and Nintendo was steamrolling everything with the Wii at the time.

Japs see the xbox as a chinese knockoff to something that their country has been #1 at since the 1980s, so even IF it was a smaller console, IF it was focused on games and not grafix whoring, and IF they had every available jap developer making games for it, it still wouldn't sell in Japan.

[Anonymous No.10377023]

It didn't fail.

[Anonymous No.10377041]

>>10376668
Why did the Dreamcast fail?
Why did the Gamecube fail?
Why?
Why did it fail, anon?
I HAVE TO KNOW WHY. WHY?!
WHY DID IT FAI

[Anonymous No.10377047]

>>10376701
>t. "The list goes on" whiner

[Anonymous No.10377058]

>>10376489
>>10376932
>>10376962
Fair points but wild that fast food chain holds top 3 spot

[Anonymous No.10377063]

>>10375505
How could it succeed when their idea of a region-appropriate ad was to make Bill Gates hold a hamburger in one hand and the Xbox controller in the other? Imagine how stupid it would be if Nintendo used the same "strategy" in America, if they made posters with Miyamoto holding sushi in one hand and the NES controller in the other when they wanted to enter the US market. I'll guarantee you that Atari would still be no. 1 console and game producer in America if they did that.

[Anonymous No.10377073]

>>10376707
>their tiny hands legitimately couldn't hold the Duke controller properly
That's why Japanese consoles came with the Controller S.

[Anonymous No.10377079]

>>10377063
It's not the same because NES came with Mario and Tetris while Atari still couldn't do a decent enough pacman clone. And if Nintendo made an ad in 2003 with Samurai Miyamoto eating sushi, the weebs would've lapped it up, while Japs are naturally averse to anything not made in japan. Apple gadgets are like an exception to the rule and note how all the ipods and iphones popular in japan are really fucking tiny.

[Anonymous No.10377083]

>>10377079
>while Japs are naturally averse to anything not made in japan.
That's not even remotely true.

[Anonymous No.10377208]

>>10377058
I mean, think about it. The Burger King mascot was already a meme at that point IIRC
Download games on console were still new-ish at that time, so they opted for discs. The games were freaking $3.99, a fraction of the cost of a normal game (59.99?). The console was also only a year old at this point, and I don't think there were too many instances of this happening, can't think of any others. And then, consider that one of them especially was really good, so word of mouth probably got around really really quick
I don't think it selling a lot is that crazy, but it definitively was a weird perfect storm of circumstances that lead to it

[Anonymous No.10377218]

>>10376923
>western slop
As opposed to what, japslop?

[Anonymous No.10377224]

Gaijin Console

[Anonymous No.10377289]

>>10376707
>A Jap sees Bill Gates and only sees the devil.
as should everyone

[Anonymous No.10377326]

>>10376907
Sounds like they need to be taught a lesson

[Anonymous No.10377341]

>>10376056
The Switch is the de facto weeb console now. Sony essentially dumped all their weeb games onto the Vita while making the PS4 and 5 very western-oriented.

[Anonymous No.10377352]

>>10377023
In Japan, anon. Reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.10377356]

>>10377041
The Dreamcast definitively did not fail because of piracy. Only ESLs from shithole countries that pirate everything think that’s true.

[Anonymous No.10377380]

>>10377341
Sony didn't dump the games onto the vita. Third party developers put their games on the Vita because it was popular, and then Sony dumped the vita into the trash because it didn't do well in America. And in doing so, they told the entire Japanese market that they don't care about them anymore. It's the exact same situation that happened in the 90s when the Saturn was doing well in Japan and Sega dumped the Saturn because it didn't do well in America - Japanese fans did not jump for Dreamcasts like Americans did and the console only sold 2 million units in Japan as a result.

The reason why the Switch is the "weeb console" is because it's popular in Japan so Japanese developers want to make games for it.

Sony was the king of the Japanese market for years, and now the PlayStation name is tarnished in Japan. Thankfully Nintendo actually cares about Japanese customers.

[Anonymous No.10377412]

>>10375505
Because they already had two perfectly good consoles. Why bother with another? The only reason Americans gave a shit was "muh american company".

[Anonymous No.10377420]

>>10376947
It's not AI generated but it's a 3D render

[Anonymous No.10377426]

>>10377412
The N64 and GameCube both underperformed in Japan. They were both mainly propped up by North America.

[Anonymous No.10377435]

>>10375505
Japs couldn't handle the fact that a console based on a literal low end laptop made in the country that nuked them twice architecture outperformed their "state of the art" ten no hika bonzai emperor #1 shit technology machines.

[Anonymous No.10377486]

>>10375505
When I see this image I imagine Bill from that time going and say this in slightly butchered Japanese:
>Greetings, people of Japan. I have come to give you my company's intel powered game console called the XBOX, I offer you Western food in my other hand, a cheeseburger with tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.10377490]

>>10375505
>Both of these are pretty delicious
>Final answer?
What a fucking dumb ad

[Anonymous No.10377503]

>>10376668
Why are you stalking this man?

[Anonymous No.10377513]

>>10377490
You sure that the first line of text in that ad says what can be best rendered as "pretty delicious"?

[Anonymous No.10377530]

>>10377513
>おいしい
Tasty
>のは
Tastiness (の) being put as the subject (は)
>どっち
Casual of どちら stating between two items given (as the question is affirmative and not questioning)
>でしょう
Indicating emphasis on ones answer that was initially asking for a more informed opinion (as opposed to かも)

Remember this language doesn't exactly have 1:1 intonation. It's literally just whatever meaning is the best suited for scenarios

[Anonymous No.10377532]

The Xbox was released almost two years after the PS2 in Japan. Final Fantasy X had already been out for half a year, and Kingdom Hearts was a month away.

[Anonymous No.10377587]

>>10375505
It was called "Xbox", which in Japan stands for "Don't Want Box". They should have called it the Zbox. It was also American. Japanese prefer Japanese consoles.

[Anonymous No.10377594]

>>10377532
How Japs Coped that the First Xbox was more Powerful than their PS2 Gamecube and Dreamcast?

[Anonymous No.10377596]

>>10375505
Mmmmm baiga

[Anonymous No.10377598]

>>10376932
>it was really good.
Now if only their food was just as good

[Anonymous No.10377605]

>>10375505
Westsbooism was at an all time low at the time.
Maybe if they had exclusive ResiEvil releases there, it might have pushed consoles.

[Anonymous No.10377609]

>>10377598
Only their chicken and fries are shit

[Anonymous No.10377615]

>>10375625
>just heat it up in the oven brah it's just cold za