/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10367604]

>controls like a dream with digital pad
>controls like a dream with analog stick
>controls like a dream with NegCon
How did they manage to do it? Most developers optimized for one input method and others felt like an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.10367617]

>>10367604
I think it really is as simple as they actually took the time to test and improve with the whole lineup of Playstation inputs. I don't think anything special happened other than they cared more.

[Anonymous No.10367663]

The steering feels surprisingly smooth and intuitive to this day but why didn't GT1 or 2 have analog throttle/brake? Even Porsche Challenge (1997) had that. Play that game with the bumper cam and analog sticks and it's some of the smoothest driving ever because the steering and throttle are infinitely adjustable with no deadzones.

[Anonymous No.10367679]

>>10367663
>but why didn't GT1 or 2 have analog throttle/brake?
???
They had.

[Anonymous No.10368281]

>>10367604
It controls like garbage and the cars feel like tanks. It's like none of the Japs who made these games ever drove a car

Also zero personality or charm, just throwing as many cars at you as they can and generic random courses

[Anonymous No.10368307]

>>10367663
>why didn't GT1 or 2 have analog throttle/brake?
it's the right stick

[Anonymous No.10368370]

>>10367604
GT1 is the most soulful JDM game. Nothing really comes close on consoles.

[Anonymous No.10368383]

>>10367604
>have five years of development plus $5 million in budget
>be a first-party developer with racing game experience and be tasked with creating a flagship racing franchise
>release the game a month after dualshock gets released, so you want people to justify getting the new controller as well as still support those who haven't made the switch yet

Anything else?

[Anonymous No.10368395]

>>10368281
It's like you've never driven a car or a tank.

[Anonymous No.10368470]

>>10367604
>>controls like a dream
kek

[Anonymous No.10368483]

I never drove a car past 90mph so I wouldn't know what it actually feels like to drive in a race or how legit GT's controls are

[Anonymous No.10368495]

>>10368483
driving at high speeds is no joke. I almost hit 100 driving home from an amusement park in a mostly empty highway. I was trying to get it that high but my girlfriend was scared to death, gave me hell for the rest of the weekend.

[Anonymous No.10368673]

>>10368370
I think Auto Modellista got close, but the European version is too neutered, and the American version is too slippery.

[Anonymous No.10369042]

>>10368673
>posted by AutoModellistaBot

[Anonymous No.10369805]

>>10368370
based GT1 chad, only few of us left on /vr/

[Anonymous No.10369847]

>>10367604
Too bad it control's like shit.
Sega Rally controls perfect with either dpad, analogue or steering wheel.

[Anonymous No.10369869]

>>10369805
I think it gets more recognition lately. At least most people don't think that GT2 is "the same game but better" anymore.

[Anonymous No.10369925]

>>10367604
GT1 has overall the best car handling physics among 5th gen consoles for sure. There are more realistic games (i.e. GT2) but they are not as fun.

[Anonymous No.10370323]

>>10369805
>>10369869
I'm quite vocal about bitching about GT2. It does have tons of benefits, including more tracks and better car handling physics. But it's attempt to appeal to a "wider audience" and simplify the game reall hurt it. GT1 knows what it wants to do and just does it. GT2 tries to be 20 different things at once and doesn't do them all right.

GT2 problems:
>completley half implimented Rally mode which clearly ate up tons of dev time and has half the new tracks you barely see
>Cups are cut up into single races, with different licsense requirements, and different HP requirements, making you constantly start and stop, ruining the flow of gameplay
>slog of shitty tracks dominates the early to mid game and are just a drag to play
>Tahiti road, Super Speedway, Grindlewald, Rome Short, Rome Long, Seattle short, Seattle long, Laguna Seca just dominate the game and range from utter shit to mid
>every single fantasy track from GT1 was 10/10
>Special Stage Route 11 removed from the game
>Rome Night is strangely barely in the game
>Normal Car Cup gone
>No requirement for most of the events unlike 1 other than HP

[Anonymous No.10370351]

>>10368281
I agree with that other poster, have you ever driven a car or played this game? Ps1 racers all feel like they're on ice, no friction on the tires. Even the sims drive like arcade games, but they're still fun to play. Gt always had weak course selections.

[Anonymous No.10370356]

>>10368483
>>10368495
I hope you both just got your driver's license. It's hard to relate to a man who hasn't driven triple digit speeds for fun.

[Anonymous No.10370370]

>>10370356
I managed to drove a fiat palio at 180 kph in a barely decline straight line, it was 0km, I would not do it now, I was insane

[Anonymous No.10370726]

>>10370323
>>every single fantasy track from GT1 was 10/10
>>Special Stage Route 11 removed from the game
This many times

[Anonymous No.10370776]

>>10370726
SSR11 is one of the best courses, and it's nuts it's not in GT2. As a bonus, it's the easiest to nudge AI cars into crashing into barries at the shicane.

[Anonymous No.10370789]

>>10368281
>the cars feel like tanks
Put some racing slicks on them

[Anonymous No.10370797]

>>10370323
SSR11 is a slog.

[Anonymous No.10370831]

I've done 230km/h in an 87 camaro. That's as high as the spedomoter went. It felt ready to leave the ground so yeah...
160 km/h was easy cruising. Drove Vancouver to Ottawa from Monday morning to Wednesday evening.

[Anonymous No.10370980]

>>10370370
>Palio
Absolute madman. I had no idea they could go faster than 160

[Anonymous No.10372550]

>>10370323
>TFW no real Gran Turismo 1 successor.
Tokyo Xtreme and Battle Gear series are dead too. Modern GT is shit.

[Anonymous No.10372583]

>>10372550
Holy kino

[Anonymous No.10372948]

>>10372550
Modern gt is a slog because realistic racing is a slog. I don’t care for Latina seca at all. Gt1 has that right balance of more realistic handling, suspension, but it’s all goegeous fantasy tracks and sports car races for 3/4 of it rather than a gritty gt300/500 sim. The music is all jazz fusion and blaring guitars to rep the feeling of driving a nice sports car. The tracks are all mountains, bridges, tunnels, Japanese streets, or Forrests. Not realistic at all, but evokes driving in lush scenery in your sports car.

When I play gt I want to drive an mr2, corvette, supra, skyline, rather than a real racing car. Real racing is boring.

[Anonymous No.10373685]

>>10372948
>Not realistic at all
>literally touge, reverse fuji speedway rip off, wangan wannabe and yatabe rip off tracks
>a game about amateur track day and tuner scene
>not realistic
It's way more realistic than 90% of "tuner" games that depict amateur racers like Mid Night Club as gang deliquents who drive recklessly as opposed to track day car nerds that they were irl.
The only way for GT1 to be more realistic is include irl tracks and tuner shops but fantasy tracks are better anyway.

[Anonymous No.10375520]

>>10372550
What filter?

[Anonymous No.10377634]

>>10367604
GT1 was fantastic... it's a shame to see the direction the series took, especially since Sport and 7.

[Anonymous No.10377754]

>>10367663
Gran Turismo on PS1 did have non-digital steering and throttle and brake, you just didn't turn it on in the options.

[Anonymous No.10377826]

>>10372948
It's not that the tracks in GT1 were more unrealistic besides certain low poly limitations with elevations and curbs but that real tracks in 1997 were a lot less awful for video games, especially for slow cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXp1CbSblBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kIprAvACpc

[Anonymous No.10377831]

>>10372948
>realism le bad
t. wheelet