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What are the best top-down action adventure games that aren't about a kid in a green tunic?

>> No.10360714

Ys IV: Dawn of Ys

>> No.10360732

If you want Zelda knock offs, Crusader of Centy is pretty good.

>> No.10360875

>>10360732
Seconding. I liked it

>> No.10360883

>>10360704
Al-Qadim Genies Curse

>> No.10361002

Shining wisdom

>> No.10361374 [DELETED] 

Zelda is the only good action adventure like how Mario is the only good platformer. All other games are just minigame compilations, collectathons with minigames galore or art projects

>> No.10361380

Crystalis seems better than Zelda 1 at least

>> No.10361385 [DELETED] 

>>10360704
Links awakening on a dmg

>> No.10361402

Are there any in this genre that aren't about swords and magic? Maybe a sci-fi theme instead?

>> No.10361404

>>10361402
Secret of evermore

>> No.10361410

>>10360704
You posted it, I honestly like Beyond Oasis more than Link to the Past

>> No.10361418

>>10361404
Looks pretty cool thanks

>> No.10361419
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>>10361402
Not action adventure, but martian dreams is an ultimatum sci-fi game... literally, it's part of the Ultima series but your on Mars it's fuckin weird.

>> No.10361819
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>>10360704

>> No.10361820

>>10360704
Neutopia
Neutopia II
King Colossus

>> No.10361972
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>>10361410
the spirit companion system is great, and I love how it adds some beat-em-up flavor to the combat.

>> No.10361991

Ys Oath, Origin, and Arc is the the overall best.

Alchehist is good but it's very light on adventure and is more like a maze arcade game.

>> No.10361992

alundra
dark savior
linkle liver story
community pom
sylvan tale

>> No.10362558

>>10361992
>community pom
lmao I read this as community porn while I googled it until I saw the logo

>> No.10362743

>>10361819
Why wasnt this ported to the ps1?

>> No.10363569

Love how every time someone makes a thread asking for boy with sword exploring world and killing monsters, people post the typical 10 shitty Zelda likes and then the thread dies. But the same people are then surprised Zelda is so beloved

>> No.10363580

>>10360704
Golden Axe Warrior

>> No.10363725

Golden Axe Warrior if you dig Zelda 1
Crusaders of Centy if you dig Alttp
Quintet trilogy, specially Terranigma, if you want internet points
SpikeMcFang is my special rec

>> No.10363736

>>10363569
Honestly I think the whole formula is dull at best, Zelda or not.

>> No.10363741

>>10363569
It's almost as if there are a finite number of games and a limited number of games per genre held in commonly higher esteem.

Make a thread asking for recs of any genre, and you're going to see a top ten or so handful of commonly enjoyed/well known games mentioned over and over.

>> No.10363748

>>10363741
me asking for a megaman x4-like and never getting anything like it

good 2d platformers with good swordplay and double jump and dash, why they don't exist D:

>> No.10363779

>>10361380

It's one of my favorite NES games but I don't know about that. Zelda does exploration better (by providing more freedom and including more landscape/room features that can be interacted with) and, I think, has fewer flaws. Crystalis is great though, and it deserves to be in this thread.

>> No.10363782

>>10361402
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notrium

>> No.10363790

>>10363569
you don't actually have the ability to experience love for anything, under any circumstances - or from anyone, for that matter

>> No.10364526

>>10363748
Try the arcade Strider, I think its a bit overrated but if jumping and slashing is what you want, you sure get to do it.

>> No.10364572

>>10363779
>>10361380
The problem with Crystalis is that, for having a sword wielding protagonist, melee combat is shit and all you do is throw projectiles

>> No.10364714

>>10360704
>Beyond Oasis
Great game! 7/10. I would rank it higher but that OST is overall mediocre.

>> No.10364736
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>>10361380
It’s not
>>10360704
Try Golden Axe Warrior
Pretty blatant Zelda 1 clone but it’s actually really good

>> No.10364740

>>10364714
>but that OST is overall mediocre.
What a pleb

>> No.10364741
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>>10360732
>>10363725
>Crusader of Centy
just so happens to star a different kid in a green tunic, if you want to be pedantic

>> No.10364747

>>10360704
The Quintet trilogy is great as well as Brainlord

>> No.10364757
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>>10364747
I played Soul Blazer recently and I really liked it, although combat felt like it should/could have better later on, the game never really raises the stakes or throws something different at the player

playing Illusion of Gaia as we speak and I'm really enjoying it. Somehow, despite how simple it is, the story/characters is really well done and resonates with me, it's like watching a well made anime series

>> No.10364768

>>10363569
>why do people discuss good games wahhh
get the fuck off this board turdnugget.

>> No.10364778

>>10364757
Gaia is one of the most depressing stories you’ll find on SNES
It’s great

>> No.10364785

>>10364778
I tried playing twice in the past and both times I gave up quickly because I thought it was boring

I'll try again after Illusion of Gaia

>> No.10364882

>>10363569
There are a number of games listed here that I like more than any of the Zelda entries. But most of these like the Oasis games, Rayearth etc have one or a few entries. Nintendo pumps out the same handful of franchises over and over so Zelda is more well known because there are like 30 of them, not popularity and quality don't necessarily go together.

>> No.10365425

>>10364882
>Oasis is better than Zelda
I love this retarded board

>> No.10365527

>>10364757
>Illusion of Gaia
harden your heart, anon. there's a terrible scene in that game that i hate more than any other game.

>> No.10365642
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>>10365425
I can understand someone enjoying Beyond Oasis more than A Link to the Past. Sadly there is no 3D Oasis game to compare to Ocarina/Majora. Would've been pretty sweet if there was.

>> No.10366829

>>10365642
It definitely got a cool concept and art. Just being a bit more open and more to do outside dungeons would have made it genuinely good

>> No.10366836

>>10362743
Probably because it's made by SEGA lol

>> No.10366841

>>10365527
>there's a terrible scene in that game that i hate more than any other game.
Hamlet?

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>>10365425
They're very different games. Really calling Beyond Oasis a Zelda clone doesn't fit very well. I like that it's mostly a brawler where you use your elementals and different weapons to manage the combat. I've played through both games many times at this point. Meanwhile for whatever reason Zelda has never really clicked with me. The only one I finished was Link's Awakening and in part because I had lots of free time and only a few Gameboy games. Link to the Past I've tried many times and just get bored. The combat is dull and the puzzles aren't enough to keep me engaged. The other one I liked was Wind Waker but when the last dungeon was a rehash of the earlier dungeons I got bored again and never finished.

Not to say there's anything bad about Zelda, it's just not my cup of tea but calling either the Oasis games, Rayearth, Secret of Mana etc Zelda likes doesn't fit.

>> No.10367521

>>10367507
I enjoy Beyond Oasis as well, though I feel a little guilty as I figured out the secret to the combat:
Just get really close until you're pressing up against your enemy and hit the attack button, the quick kick you perform does absurd levels of damage and knocks things flat on their ass.

>> No.10367532
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10367532

Willow

>> No.10367592

>>10364740
The only thing plebeian is liking poor sounding music. It's passable but is a black eye on an otherwise great game.

>> No.10367629

>>10367592
Only further enforcing your pleb status

>> No.10369057
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>>10367629
I have to say I agree with him. I shill the Oasis games more than just about anyone else here but the one thing I don't have a ton of praise for is the music. It's not bad, but it's so mellow and generic that it just fades into the background.

>> No.10370075

>>10363569
There weren't a lot of good games in this style in those days anon what else do you want people to post? The indies sure are creating a metric ton of games in this style though so eventually we will have a huge over saturation of Zelda-likes in our time.
>>10363748
Sadly not even the X series fully delivers on this thanks to the second half of the series being bad. Again the indies are actually making tons of Megaman clones so we will certainly have an abundance of that. Both of you guys should just look there for your fix.

>> No.10370090

>>10360732
I really really want to like Crusader of Centy. I like the art style and I love the music. But ultimately the animal companions are a stupid gimmick, the controls are too loose and imprecise and the level design kinda sucks. I would much rather play one of the Oasis games or just replay Zelda

>> No.10370108
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>>10366829
Yeah there needed to be a lot more overworld content, I absolutely agree with that. Still a great game though. The Spirit system was beyond cool, and something I'm convinced inspired the transforming masks in Majora. Requiring different forms to pass beyond particular areas and obstacles and deal with certain enemies. My biggest issue with Beyond Oasis is the health/food and weapon systems which were far too lazy and unsatisfying compared to how you can upgrade weapons, armor and items in Zelda

>> No.10370114

>>10369057
The overworld music sucks, but the dungeon music is memorable, especially the last few

>> No.10371649

>>10369057
>>10370108
>>10367507
I loved Beyond Oasis, but didn't like Legend of Oasis on Saturn quite as much. Still retained some cool stuff, but it felt a bit too big and complex at times, especially with the amount of elementals. Felt like one of those times where bigger didn't mean better. Still a good game, just that Beyond seemed to nail it the first time.

>> No.10372562
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>>10361402
The Guardian Legend.

>> No.10373145

One thing that really annoys me about Beyond Oasis, and a lot of adventure games including Zelda, is how at the end, all your magical friends and allies tell you to fuck off, steal all your equipment and magic that you've painstakingly collected and upgraded, and you have to go back to being the same loser you were at the beginning of the game. Not exactly a hero's reward is it?

>> No.10373165

>>10366841
yeah. i didn't see it coming and it looked brutal

>> No.10373540

>>10362558
Everyone does

>> No.10373557

>>10361402
Does War of the Dead count as one of these? If so, that.

>> No.10374969
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>>10361402
You're in luck. I actually do know of one, Elemental Gimmick Gear for the Dreamcast.

>> No.10374981

>>10374969
This is actually the only game worth playing on the Dreamcasts. Dont get filtered though, op, cause it's not a fucking walk in the park.

>> No.10377084

>>10360704
Neutopia 1 & 2 for the TG16 are pretty good.

>> No.10377097

>>10360704
Gunman's Proof (NES)
Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu (SNES)
The Guardian Legend (NES)
Light Crusader (Mega Drive)
Alundra (PS1) - BEST ON THIS THREAD BY FAR

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>>10360704

>> No.10378272

>>10360704
Alcahest is pretty good and I never see anyone mention it

>> No.10378275

>>10361404
Underrated gem, for no reason other than "it's a gaijin game"

>> No.10378278

>>10363725
>Quintet trilogy
I hate this fucking named

>> No.10378282

>>10367507
This is a much better game than ALttP. Secret of Evermore is better than ALttP as well.

>> No.10378286

>>10369057
>The Oasis games
I bet he's never even played Defenders of Oasis.

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>>10361402
Gunple: Gunman's Proof has a whimsical western setting with aliens and sci-fi elements

>> No.10378328

>>10378278
It is literally three games made by Quintet with similar themes and gameplay, not sure why anyone would hate it in fact I think they reference each other

>> No.10378353

>>10378328
Even calling it the 'Soulblazer' trilogy is better than that. Quintet made more games than just those 3, you dumb faggot.

>> No.10378358
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10378358

do isometric games count, theres a couple of good ones that i consider to be in the same realm (arpg)

>> No.10378368

>>10363779
Magical Pop'N? or idk, maybe TwinBee platformer?

>> No.10378373

>>10378358
>do isometric games count
Yes
>arpg
The vast majority of these are action-adventure games

>> No.10378378

>>10378353
You know, come to think of it, are there any callbacks to Soul Blazer in Terranigma? I know in Illusion of Gaia the Red Jewels are linked to Solid Arm and after you kick his ass he talks about how he got his ass kicked many years ago by the Blazer. But I can't recall if there's any mentions in Terranigma.

>> No.10378384

>>10378353
That’s your issue that you associate them only making those three games, no one else’s
Keep your autism to yourself

>> No.10378386

>>10360704
arcus Odyssey

>> No.10378387

>>10378384
I won't stand for the general public referring to these as the Quintet trilogy. You're not an authority. Go have sex with your tranny dad.

>> No.10378394

>>10378387
You sound exactly like the genre autist

>> No.10378405

>>10364572
Simple as git gud?

>> No.10378410

>>10364741
Why does the wildcat pet look just like the one from DQV *face palm*

>> No.10378509

>>10360704
Community Pom

>> No.10378518

>>10378353
They didn't make more trilogies though. They've been referred to like that for many years, your irritation doesn't matter.

>> No.10378528

>>10378387
For me its the Quintet Tetralogy as I like to include Actraiser to that list as well (just the first one, the sequel is balls and I pretend it doesn't exist)

>> No.10378531

>>10378528
You forgot a game >>10376264

>> No.10378537

>>10378531
Thats unrelated to the Tetralogy, actraiser makes sense within the context

>> No.10378623

>>10378328
because a quintet is a group of five musicians
So a "quintet trilogy" just sounds dumb
also this >>10378353

>> No.10378928

>>10365425
LttP is an ugly Zelda game

>> No.10378935

>>10372562
Compile Heart needs to bring this back

>> No.10379014
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>>10374969
That looks fun

>> No.10379019

>>10378623
There's nothing odd about it, a quintet isn't necessarily musicians and a trilogy is a series of books.

>> No.10379025

>>10378928
It still has far more content and interesting secrets and shit to do in it compared to Beyond Oasis which is severely lacking in anything outside of the main quest. One lazy secret dungeon of constant enemies to get an unbreakable broadsword, and that's it. What I love about Zelda is going around finding ways to upgrade your equipment and find tools to make Link stronger. The item and weapon system in Beyond Oasis is, on the other hand, an afterthought that adds almost nothing to the game. I do still love it though but man it could have been much more

>> No.10380419
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>>10370114
Some fucker has listed the Beyond Oasis OST on the Youtube, out of the 30 Songs i remember:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNlF_gSGek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQ2FLUhxvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CYlEYiWnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqrT9Mdevgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limFeJe3QMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZBz3HlY0jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAqQYsHS6bw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOp3jdYDVUo (Kino)

Which is not bad, but a lot of the songs are really "beep boop" with seemingly no motif.
Huge Creature is absolute kino and most memorable though.

I remember more Landstalker songs, even though i dislike the game much more.
Light Crusader also has some good shit.

>> No.10380535

>>10379025
MM has less in comparison and its the better game

>> No.10381271

>>10378387
How many trilogies does Quintet have

>> No.10381525

>>10378528
Try the PAL version of Actraiser 2
You might like the game better

>> No.10381546

>>10378528
Actraiser 2 is better than 1 in every single way

1 is a bland borefest, it's not bad but just very unoriginal and standard. 2 is actually unique.

The only reason one would prefer the first game is if he either sucks at video games, or hasn't played many, in which case he wouldn't realize how standard and unimaginative everything in 1 is

>> No.10381556

>>10380419
It's supposed to be like a real orchestra. I love it myself. Very unique.

>> No.10381874

>>10380535
Not even a fair fight, no other game in existence can compete with MM's masks. That's like the coolest shit ever put in a video game. I could just swim around as Zora Link for hours as a kid. But this is about ALLTP vs Beyond Oasis, and while the latter has more enjoyable combat and superior art direction and visual design, ALLTP brutally murders it with the amount of content it provides and the large world you can explore. Not to mention an OST that is one million times better

>> No.10381928

>>10381546
What a dumb hot take

>> No.10382051

>>10381874
They're just different, LttP only murders it if you enjoy the content it has and the world you explore. I agree on the music though.

>> No.10382080

>>10382051
The content just built upon what you could do in Zelda 1, which was already a cool world to explore. But in LttP there are actual townsfolk and NPCs, and even more upgrades and tools, it's just a bigger more polished Zelda 1. I really don't see what there is to dislike about the game other than its mediocre visual presentation

>> No.10382132

>>10382080
IIRC at times the game forces exploration (Zora's flippers) and if you're not exactly smart, you're gonna need a guide for a couple things.