/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10354745]

>you don't really have to hit him, just go up lmao
This made this game impossible to me for 10 years.

[Anonymous No.10354754]

>>10354745
Nice thread, thanks for letting us know

[Anonymous No.10354758]

>>10354745
i never beat a sonic game, not having infinite lives is hard, even castlevania was easier in comparison.

[Anonymous No.10354789]

>>10354745
Imagine how impossible it would be if the section looped vertically

[Anonymous No.10354915]

>>10354758
>not having infinite lives is hard
Having infinte health kinda makes up for it

[Anonymous No.10355803]

>>10354758
>not having infinite lives is hard
you'd like Wario Land 2, 3, and 4 then because he can't even die

[Anonymous No.10355825]

>>10355803
he can die in 4 but either way getting knocked out the room is a lot worse than being able to die if you ask me

[Anonymous No.10355878]

>>10354758
If you haven't beaten a Castlevania game without using any continues, you haven't beaten it.

[Anonymous No.10355891]

I had the same issue with the Dragon boss in Mega Man 2. I could reach him without issue, but I kept trying to fight him while running away before his health bar even appeared, and would always fall to my death. Years later I saw Arino beat him and found out you just have to run until the screen stops scrolling. Then I beat him on my first try.

[Anonymous No.10355991]

>>10354745
I really wanted to get a 1CC 100% run of Sonic 1 at some point, and this was often the point that killed my attempts... I did eventually though, it's not the hardest time when you're used to it, it's all about memorization with Sonic, once you get familiar with hazards and the sections you have the most trouble, it's easier to prepare and even avoid them depending on what they are I guess.

[Anonymous No.10356091]

>>10354758
Sonic gives you tons of lives and continues but you don't need them. As long as you have 1 ring you are effectively invincible.

[Anonymous No.10356579]

>>10356091
No it doesn't. The most common way (or is it the only way) to get a continue is by collecting 50 rings in a special stage. So you need 50+ rings by the end of the level and need to go through the ring then collect another 50 rings. You can only get special stages in acts 1 and 2. No new person is holding onto their 50 rings in Scrap Brain. You have to earn every life and continue beyond your three starting stock. If you try to blitz through the levels you will find yourself fairly life and continue deprived. Then rings don't matter if you fall into a bottomless pit, get crushed, or drown. Labyrinth Zone has crushing and drowning. Starlight has bottomless pits. Scrap Brain has bottomless pits and crushing. Holding onto that one ring means jack shit. Can you not fathom how a new player might have a little trouble?

[Anonymous No.10357898]

>>10355991
It's all about crashers and that pit in scrap brain 1, personally.
The labyrinth climb is easy if you keep yourself cool.

[Anonymous No.10358012]

>>10354745
gotta go up. fast.

[Anonymous No.10358828]

>>10356579
I dunno man... I finally played them on Sonic Mega Collection as a teenager and the Sonic games weren't that hard to get used to

[Anonymous No.10360564]

>>10354758
this has to be a joke

[Anonymous No.10361816]

>>10354758
anons mock you, but I was in the same boat
I went through all CV by using continues and being persistant, but my Sonic run pretty much ended with Labyrinth zone, or soon after

[Anonymous No.10363649]

>>10354745
You think you're hot shit, eh Robitchnik, well just wait, you're gonna be creamed over and over

[Anonymous No.10363676]

>>10363649
you have the rings, and i see your PINGAS is as big as mine. well let's see how well you handle it

[Anonymous No.10363827]

>>10354745
Man people suck at video games now, literally try just a little bit for fucks sake. My god, this game isn't even difficult, none of them are
The casino night cylinder was quite shocking, really? You couldn't figure it out?

[Anonymous No.10363835]

>>10356579
>No new person is holding onto their 50 rings in Scrap Brain.
Not that it matters. You can't enter the Special Stage in Scrap Brain, period.

[Anonymous No.10363874]

>>10363835
I have to remember that when I do another emerald run again. Only so many opportunities to get them.

[Anonymous No.10363887]

>>10354758
>>10361816
honestly i can see it
castlevania is pretty slow paced unlike sonic and subweapons help to get dickheads out of range, whereas sonic has to hit enemies with his body

[Anonymous No.10364065]

>>10354758
I've beaten SA2 and I suck shit at Castlevania. I suck shit at most games in general but I can still say I've beaten a Sonic game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.10364067]

>>10363827
I literally didn't know you were supposed to super bomb the glass cylinder in Super Metroid until I learned about it here

[Anonymous No.10364125]

>>10364067
I figured it out long before I had the Internet. Just decided to drop a bomb in the tube on a lark thinking it'd be like an exploding soda can, but I didn't actually think anything would happen.

[Anonymous No.10364290]

>>10363835
>>10363874
Indeed, you have 10 shots at best to go to the special stages, for 6 emeralds... though it gets easier over time, the Sonic 1 special stages are simple enough once you get the hang of it, I've managed to get a 100% 1CC recently, it got fun even once I mastered them.

[Anonymous No.10364339]

>>10361816
When I was younger that was my experience. I'm not sure young me ever saw past Labyrinth Zone. The basic trick in LZ is to just not rush it. Play it safe. That final ascension in OP can be nerve wrecking when you start hearing the warning sound for drowning but there is plenty of time to get there. Same applies for the special stages. Take your time to avoid going into a freefall.

[Anonymous No.10364519]

>>10356579
What a retard, I was 7 when I played my first sonic in 91 and never had problem holding on to that 1 ring. Just earlier this year I was teaching my 7 year old son how to prioritize getting back that 1 fucking ring to stay alive.

[Anonymous No.10364671]

>>10364519
>perpetuating the cycle

[Anonymous No.10364841]

>>10363827
The second level of goldeneye filtered me until I saw the movie when I was old enough. People sucked back then, we just didn't use the internet.

[Anonymous No.10364857]

>>10364067
its shown in the demo footage if you sit on the title screen long enough.

It was the one thing I personally did need a guide for.

[Anonymous No.10364867]

>>10364857
Nta, for me it was the elevator room.
You know the one.
Playing Super Metroid after Sonic games was a funny experience, you had all the dexterity needed but the level design could still filter you hard.

[Anonymous No.10364868]

>>10354754
make a better one then faggot

[Anonymous No.10364892]

>>10364857
Only after you beat the game once.

[Anonymous No.10364928]

>>10364065
WE ARE EVERYWHERE

I' not even a zoomer I just suck at sonic. Mario for NES was more my style, I really "got"the way he moves. I can hardly compare 2d sonic games to castlevania, it doesnt seem similar outside of those similarities that are inevitable between two 2d platformer games.

The guy has a weapon and just "stops" when you stop pressing the move button. Does anyone else consider that to be like its own section of the platforming genre? Idk how to express it... To me, even in 3d platformers, the floatiness or momentum of the character and their movement makes a platformer what it is.

It's what made Mario 64 better than lots of knockoffs. Even way later on, games like Rachet&Clank/Jak&Daxter for the ps2 felt lackluster to me in comparison despite those games being chock full of features that Mario 64 didnt have. Rachet and Jak are just dead potato sack puppets. In fact they are worse because a potato sack would twirl and slide and express actual movement if you were to fling it somewhere.

Felt that way playing "shoot em up" oriented platformers, and even though you dont have a gun in Castlevania it feels that way because it's got 99% of the rest of it and has 0% of the movement freedom feeling that I associate with it being fun to jump. Jumping is not innately fun by itself, I don't feel "WEE!" when a character does the same exact arc to the same exact height and distance they did every other time. It's like that doesnt require any play from me. The game could just habdle such jumping the way 3d Zelda handles jumping, if it's gonna be the same jump regardless of what I have done /how I have moved leading up to it

[Anonymous No.10364951]

>>10364857
Not if you've never made it past that part.

[Anonymous No.10364953]

>>10364065
>>10364928
I just realized the ambiguity in saying "SA2". I meant Sonic Adventure 2, not Sonic Advance 2. I'm fucking terrible at 2D Sonic games.

[Anonymous No.10364970]

>>10364953
I actually interpreted it as Sonic Adventure 2, I just happened to go into a tangent that poorly defined 2d from 3d

[Anonymous No.10364973]

>>10364970
That's how I assumed people would read it when I wrote that, because no one refers to Sonic Advance 2 as "SA2". Still thought I should clear that up though.

[Anonymous No.10365683]

>>10364928
I definitely recommend the 8-Bit Sonic titles, at least Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, since they remind me of Mario more... also, Sonic Pocket Adventure, it really feels like a Sonic 2 demake, but it has this save system, so losing all of your lives is less of a problem, it also feels way simpler than Genesis' titles. Also, don't forget to press down to roll on slopes, it speeds Sonic up and protects him too.

P.S. Avoid the Game Gear's Sonic 2, play the one on Master System instead, it's 10x more fun...

[Anonymous No.10365960]

>>10354745
The least satisfying "boss" in the game. Labyrinth and onwards is just unpleasant. The point where you are no longer playing a fun game but and just begrudgingly doing a chore.

[Anonymous No.10366037]

>>10365683
>play the one on Master System instead, it's 10x more fun...
For one very specific, important reason:

[Anonymous No.10366697]

>>10366037
No refunds

[Anonymous No.10366770]

>>10366037
Indeed, the screen resolution wasn't really taken in consideration by Aspect in the same way it did by Ancient with 8-Bit Sonic 1, the 1st boss is all it takes for anyone to realize this, they really failed the Game Gear... but the Master System version? Here you can actually appreciate all of the effort Aspect put into this sequel, to take what worked in Sonic 1 and expand upon it, and it's excellent.

[Anonymous No.10367778]

>>10354758
You beat Castlevania, but can't beat Sonic? That's wild. I found the Sonic games to be fairly easy, but I just can't beat some of those classic Castlevanias. I've beaten all of the Igavanias, Castlevania 4, and Rondo of Blood, but as a fan of the series, I'm deeply ashamed to admit that I just could not finish Castlevania 1, 3, and Bloodlines for the life of me. I want to play 2 sometime soon since it looks doable, just to add 1 more Classicvania to the Beaten list.

This part of labyrinth zone definitely tripped me up for a while though, when I thought I had to actually hit Robotnik. I was screaming at the screen "for fucks sake, how perfect does my platforming need to be??" I felt stupid but relieved when I found out you just have to get to the top, and you can actually take your time to jump up carefully.

[Anonymous No.10367875]

>>10365960
Starlight Zone is the best zone in the game.

[Anonymous No.10368373]

>>10367778
He already said that it's because you have infinite retrys in Castlevania. Not everyone wants to play the game over and over again in the same sitting when they get booted to the title screen.

[Anonymous No.10369525]

>>10354745
I remember I used to be able to kill him before he got away but I can't in present day and I am so unsure if I fabricated that memory up with how tight it seemingly is for me.