crt general

[Anonymous No.10351395]

old >>10315083

[Dave No.10351515]

>>10351395
No one cares about ugly old technology. Imagine being so poor that you can't afford a retrotink.

[Anonymous No.10351532]

I went to church

[Anonymous No.10351849]

Thoughts on thicc scanlines? Y/N? There's a guide on Reddit on 240p for PC monitors and this is the result. I tested it and while it does look like this, stuff like Super Mario World looks all kinds of fucked when in movement. Of course, none of these lines show up, even at 240p, on a TV. It honestly made me wonder if it was even worth the effort of using 240p on a CRT TV if you're not gonna notice a difference.

[Anonymous No.10352128]

>>10351849
I don't mind them but I prefer it when they are thin.

[Anonymous No.10352152]

>>10351849
link to guide?

[Anonymous No.10352320]

>>10351849
Movement should look perfectly fine. If movement looks messed up then it's an emulation problem, a scaling problem, you're using 120Hz without black frame insertion, or if you are not emulating then something unfortunate is happening somewhere in the video chain.

[Anonymous No.10352342]

>>10352152
https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/675wk4/guide_how_to_run_retroarch_at_240p_on_your_vga/

>>10352320
It might be the black flame insertion (which I didn't do). Part of the guide is setting the refresh rate to 160hz because I'm using an adapter, and after doing that I didn't change anything on the emulator itself.

[Anonymous No.10352437]

>>10351849
Eh, honestly this doesn't look anywhere close to a TV, even a big one with high TVL. It's missing the variable height of the "pixel" being lit up depending on its brightness among other things.
I'd say to just play games intended for a TV on a TV and games intended for a monitor on a monitor.

[Anonymous No.10352463]

>>10352342
If the refresh is not a multiple of 60 you will have judder and without black frame insertion you will see a double image at 120Hz.

[Anonymous No.10352478]

>>10352342
And technically your refresh should be a multiple of whatever the emulator is running. If you are using retroarch you should try using CRT Switchres.

[Anonymous No.10352595]

>>10351395
You're not supposed to do anything but play games on your CRT! Those are the ugliest anime girls I have ever seen!

[Anonymous No.10352602]

Some recycled a 19" mono composite only Philips TV. I haven't tested it yet, but is it worth taking if I have a sharp mono composite, symphonic s-video and a 27" i'art? I ask as I have heard people say Philips tube a good quality and underrated.

[Anonymous No.10352621]

>>10352463
>>10352478
Just setting Vsync to ON fixed the entire issue. Adding black frames just made the entire screen glitch. Everything works as intended now.

[Anonymous No.10353156]

Is there any way to get a modern PC to boot in 240p mode? Including the BIOS screens.

[Anonymous No.10353278]

My church has a few CRTs I can have for free. Any of these worth taking?

[Anonymous No.10353398]

>>10353278
Take all of them and go play some Castlevania.
The wicked priests have stolen enough from the people to deserve getting stripped of all their CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10353403]

>>10352621
I don't know about the BIOS but you should be able to get GRUB to do 240p if your video card supports such a mode through VESA BIOS Extensions. Once you are out of the console and into X you can run any video mode your card and monitor supports by adding a modeline in xorg.conf. If you are actually trying to do this from WIndows then I don't know.

>>10353278
The two JVC and two Panasonic are 13 inches and have both composite and S-Video. The BVM is 8 inches and composite only. All are professional monitors. If you are OK with the size and they don't have burn in get them. If one has burn in but the other like one doesn't get both so you have spare parts. Also, if they are giving away the SVHS deck take that as well.

[Anonymous No.10353405]

>>10353403
Meant to link >>10353156

[Anonymous No.10353690]

>>10353398
>The wicked priests have stolen enough from the people to deserve getting stripped of all their CRTs.
Decided to sell them for $200 each and give all the money to the church.

[Anonymous No.10353938]

>>10353690
this post actually made me close the tab.

[Anonymous No.10354079]

>>10353278
Does your church have an AV room or something?
>>10353398
He's most likely protestant. We don't have priests, we have pastors which can be voted out by the elders of the church.

[Anonymous No.10354083]

>>10353278
i would power them on first anon
many times camera feed causes burning
(date\time always displayed)

the phosphor coating gets burned off and
literally cannot be repaired
so it looks dumb\ugly
F O R E V E R

[Anonymous No.10354454]

>>10354079
They steal men's souls and make them their slaves nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.10354710]

>>10354454

[Anonymous No.10354851]

>>10354079
>Does your church have an AV room or something?
Yep. There's a full AV section actually. This is a room within that section that just stores old equipment they stopped using decades ago.

[Anonymous No.10354892]

>>10354851
>a full AV section
Holy shit, those priests are fucking perverts.

[Anonymous No.10355413]

>>10351395
this shit should be banned.i can't see the TV. it has anime on it. i'm supposed to post my TV to make this thread better? fuck this.

[Anonymous No.10355414]

>>10353278
Take it all. It's free money.

[Anonymous No.10355856]

>>10354851
If you take one, play Castlevania on it. It's a Christian game.
>>10354892
They don't have priests.
>>10354454
meds

[Anonymous No.10355869]

>>10354851
>>10354079
whats an av room? I thought those were like cameras in the upper and lower floors of the chapel or something

[Anonymous No.10355884]

Hitachi
>>10355869
They watch videos at church and the music and all is (or was in this case) controlled from that room.
Nowadays its all done with one laptop, but back in the day it took more effort

[Anonymous No.10356281]

>check facebook marketplace for the first time in like 8 months
>put in "PVM" knowing full well what i'm about to see
>listing i remember seeing from forever ago pops up
>retard who wants $1200 for a 13 inch trinitron pvm without an hours counter and sticker residue everywhere
>message him trying an offer no reasonable person should ever pay for this
>"sorry i'm holding out for the listing price"
shit like this is why i want to go to the recycler and smash every fucking tube I see with a baseball bat. why are people STILL like this?

[Anonymous No.10356396]

>>10355413
We should always start with anime first pic so faggots like you fuck off huh?

[Anonymous No.10356620]

>>10356281
Because you're searching "PVM" instead of just "old monitor" or something. You're directly going to the people who know what they have, but are retarded and want 10x the price they should be asking for.

[Anonymous No.10356686]

Check out this bad boy

[Anonymous No.10356696]

>>10355414
>Lugging heavy ass CRTs around
Too much effort.

[Anonymous No.10356732]

>>10356696
Get /fit/.

[Anonymous No.10356782]

>>10356281
i would just look for a 36" trinitron and find a way to get it where you want it. they typically go for cheaper than the PVMs. You can find a smaller consumer set too, don't think you need a PVM to enjoy yourself

[Anonymous No.10356909]

>>10356686
beauty

[Anonymous No.10356952]

>>10356281
pelco monitor
you're welcome

[Anonymous No.10357019]

Picked up a Philips 27pt6441/37 from a church for $30 last week.

Super happy with it. The color is fantastic.

[Anonymous No.10357024]

>>10354454
WHAT IS A MAN!?

[Anonymous No.10357206]

>>10355869
>whats an av room?
A miserable little pile of choirboy secrets.

[Anonymous No.10357258]

>>10353690
God bless.

[Anonymous No.10357303]

I have a pvm 2530 that has been sitting in a basement for 3 years which has been overall pretty dry because it’s inside an enclosed room. Last time I turned it on was 3 years ago and despite usual geometry issues for certain consoles it’s in great condition.

Should I just keep using it until I for sure need to change caps or should it be done now? Just don’t know what to expect hope I didn’t damage it letting it sit like that for so long.

[Anonymous No.10357757]

>>10351395
ah yes I love listening to 'BZZZZZZZZ' while beams of cancer inducing ionizing radiation are shot directly into my eyeballs

[Anonymous No.10357773]

>>10357757
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.10358664]

I have a Sony 1351Q and the right half of the screen will sometimes randomly becomes darker than the left half. Anyone know what's up?

[Anonymous No.10358673]

>>10357757
there he is
>>10358664
Capacitors are usually the first port of call for screen darkening

[Anonymous No.10358678]

>>10351395
Hello Throneritter, haven't seen you in a while

[Anonymous No.10359431]

For those with a Beocenter/Beovision: can you remove the stand and sit it on a tr4gjypable?

[Anonymous No.10359434]

>>10359431
Fucking captcha, I meant table.

[Anonymous No.10359901]

I just found this TV on the side of the road and it seems to work fine. I've already got a ps2 and happy to get it all hooked up but are there any specific games that I should play to take advantage of having a CRT the most?

[Anonymous No.10360140]

>>10359901
Any 2D games, like Ar Tonelico or Disgaea.

[Anonymous No.10360214]

>>10360140
I spent a little time on FFV and alone in the dark and yeah it looks way better. Do PS2 games benefit from this as much?

[Anonymous No.10361014]

>Brother gets me pic related
>But my monitor's VGA is inside the monitor itself, with a cable attached to it that you can't unplug
So what happens if, for example, the pins on the monitor's VGA cable get bent? Can I even replace the entire thing?

[Anonymous No.10361019]

>>10357303
you should sell it before the market tanks and all the fuckwits with infinite money stop buying them

[Anonymous No.10361031]

>>10361014
sure. just get a new vga plug and cut the old one off. or open the monitor up and replace the whole thing. for the adapter you can use a simple double female coupler

[Anonymous No.10361045]

>>10361031
Well it still works, so it's only a what-if scenario. Good to know it can be fixed without much effort.

[Anonymous No.10361072]

I'll never be able to simulate the kind of noise I used to see watching my old C-band satellite receiver, will I?

[Anonymous No.10361189]

>>10361072
Same anon here.
I looked into it.
There is a shader in RetroArch called VHSPro.
If you turn off all the tape-related features it will allow you to add signal noise that is similar to what you would get from a weak cable TV signal.
I have combined it with the Grade shader to muck it up even more and the result is something reminiscent of C-band programming, but you still will not get the reflections and ghosts that are natural to OTA signals.
I will have to do more research.

[Anonymous No.10362076]

>>10361019
Im still baffled my 20L5 is worth $3k and my D20F1U is $6k

i got them both for under $100 in 2012

[Anonymous No.10362791]

I was lucky enough to get an early 2000s pc monitor completely new in box. What problems should I expect from it having been doing nothing for 20 years? Should I inspect the components before powering up? I've only opened a crt to clean dust before.

[Anonymous No.10362843]

>>10362791
Worst thing that could happen is that it doesn't power on.

[Anonymous No.10362897]

>>10362791
As long as it looks fine externally there is no reason to open it up.
If you're bringing it in from a cold storage building let it it sit overnight to allow all components to come up to room temperature before turning it on.

[Anonymous No.10362907]

/vg/randads, why the fuck are cheap CRTs so hard to find?

[Anonymous No.10362937]

>>10362076
You'll find out how much it is "worth" if and when you sell it. 3k is a number you pulled out of your ass

[Anonymous No.10363087]

>>10362843
>>10362897
Thanks. I think I might be opening it regardless; it looks like some styrofoam cells broke off and fit through the small holes in the plastic bag, and a few went through the ventilation holes in the monitor. Considering they can hold a static charge or melt, I'd rather not have them in there.

[Anonymous No.10363109]

>>10351395
i love my crt

[Anonymous No.10363115]

>>10359901
damn lucky, iv been wanting a black sony with built in vhs for a while but dont see them often/for a non retarded price

[Anonymous No.10363117]

>>10363109
neck yourself

[Anonymous No.10363267]

>>10362791
Can't wait for her to ship. Did they push her back? It's almost the end of October.

>>10363109
Incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.10363342]

>hay guise found this perfectly working monitor on the street
No you didn’t, you shelled out extortionate amounts of money for a CRT post-gaming-boom.

[Anonymous No.10363347]

>>10363342
If it's impossible to find a nice CRT on the street like you say then it would not be extortionate amounts of money to pay for a nice one because the demand would be equal to the supply.
You have painted yourself into a logical corner.

[Anonymous No.10363352]

>>10363347
>logical corner
I’m a circle you assbuttmeister

[Anonymous No.10363354]

how do you do fellow kidz?

[Anonymous No.10363356]

>>10363342
You can find good crt's for free still thoughbeit you have to constantly refresh facebook marketplace and craigslist with "crt tv", "tube tv", "tv" (set to 0 dollars only) seventeen times a day until something comes up then you have to go for it as soon as possible or it'll disappear before your eyes. Facebook marketplace has ai detection for crt's in images so you might not have to do as much thoughever

[Anonymous No.10363595]

>>10362907
maybe go looking for something other then the absolute highest end crts

[Anonymous No.10364216]

>>10363267
No idea, I'm a poorfag so it's not in the cards but she's a real beauty and I might have to buy one second hand down the line.

[Anonymous No.10364540]

>>10351849
Absolutely retarded it is. Motion clarity is the main reason to use a CRT and running at 120hz completely destroys that.

[Anonymous No.10364573]

>>10364540
>my worldview is reality
I wish autists had at least a little ability to understand others opinions

[Anonymous No.10364585]

>>10363354
ive been tempted to get a mister but the pc98 core doesn't look like its been worked on for atleast a year and thats the only thing i wanted it for

[Anonymous No.10364685]

>>10362937
No retard, there's several sold on ebay for that price, not even active listings, SOLD LISTINGS

Learn how the market works idiots.

[Anonymous No.10364792]

>>10364585
why not get a pc98 then

[Anonymous No.10364794]

https://youtu.be/lFWfoF5ZoRE

[Anonymous No.10364978]

>>10364792
ive been thinking about it but it sounds like you need a couple of them because theres pc9801 and 21 and some games wont work on each of those, i do not have much space kek

[Anonymous No.10366247]

>>10351849
>>10352342
Running 120Hz will give you double images. Just use a TV or a Multisync monitor that's 15kHz capable.

[Anonymous No.10366263]

>>10351849
>>10352342
you realize you can do 480p with a scanline filter at 60hz on a 31khz vga monitor and it will look identical to 240p at 60hz? no need for that needless fuckery

[Anonymous No.10366285]

>full white element gets displayed on screen
>screen warps and bulges out on the sides around the white area
both of my tubes do this. is there a way to fix it without making the screen unusably dark?
one is some sharp model from 96 and the other is a trinitron from 94

[Anonymous No.10366289]

>>10366285
normal for older / lower end CRTs

[Anonymous No.10366295]

Newfag here gonna look into a Dell m991. Pictures show it in good condition, but how do I test it in a measureable way besides burn out of it's too dim or has color issues? Just use my eyes and call it a day?

[Anonymous No.10366321]

>>10366263
The idea was to avoid using filters. Not that it matters, since I eventually decided to just use my CRT TV at whatever resolution. I'm not autistic enough to notice the difference between 240p and 480p.

[Anonymous No.10366327]

>>10366321
>The idea was to avoid using filters.
just saying it makes zero difference, the physical outcome is the same as real 240p/60, but you don't have to use 120hz and deal with the problems it causes

[Anonymous No.10366332]

>>10366327
I might try it if I end up playing something on my monitor. For now I'm testing Turbografx games and they look quite nice without any visible thicc lines.

[Anonymous No.10366345]

>>10366332
as long as you like it and have fun, that's what matters

[Anonymous No.10366361]

>>10366345
Thanks anon, tinkering with screens is always fun.

[Anonymous No.10366391]

>>10366295
yeah. you can check and make sure the contrast isn't cranked up all the way.

[Anonymous No.10366396]

what are the tips and tricks to getting good crt pics on a smartphone camera? do i just need a real camera?

[Anonymous No.10366413]

>>10366396
I followed >>10317965 's advice from last thread and I've gotten good results. You might have to adjust the timing if you're using other framerates, but usually you'll get nice pictures.

[Anonymous No.10366449]

>>10366413
10 minutes ago i would have sworn i had looked and not found the manual mode in my native camera app. just found it, i was trying to use some third party camera app to control shutter speed but it was a piece of shit. this is much better.

[Anonymous No.10366472]

>>10366361
>Yuna
Based

>>10366396
I'd turn off the lights in the room first. Then use ISO as low as it gets, usually 100 or 200 gets the job done. 1/60 shutter speed for NTSC, 1/50 for PAL. 1/30 and 1/25 can also work with static images, but for that you'll probably want ISO 100 only. Shooting from an angle helps with moire/focus problems. For white balance you'll have to eyeball it so it looks more or less the same as IRL.

[Anonymous No.10366509]

I’m having such a fucking problem affording a decent trinitron…

[Anonymous No.10366535]

>>10362076
I bought a 14L5 for $400. Then the price went up something crazy to like $1500, but I still sold it to a friend for the same $400 I paid for it.
I got rid of it because I hardly used the HD multiformat, but he doesn't either and actually only uses composite.

[Anonymous No.10366540]

>>10366509
Keep looking, you can even find good ones for free, just takes time.

[Anonymous No.10366873]

>>10364540
>>10366247
That's what black frame insertion is for.

[Anonymous No.10366893]

>>10366873
CRTs are dim enough without making them even dimmer. Maybe you have some low hour unit that is still bright, but those only become more rare.

[Anonymous No.10366909]

thoughts on flat screen CRTs

[Anonymous No.10366927]

>>10366909
cool, but not as cool as the bubble screens

[Anonymous No.10366942]

>>10366927
Bubble screen has better aesthetic of course but I was referring to the dimension of the screen being visually better for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.10367010]

Any good sources or ideas how to get affordable Trinitron or PVM in WA? Craiglist dry as a bone, no connections with churches, hospitals, donation or refurbish places... No idea how can I dig deeper

>inb4 use retroarch and pc

[Anonymous No.10367016]

>>10366909
They suck but it's hard to get component otherwise so shouganai

[Anonymous No.10367042]

>>10367010
What is affordable to you? You might have to just stalk Ebay for "affordable" deals

[Anonymous No.10367094]

>>10367042

$300-$400 max for PVM. The only problem I have with ebay is cost of delivery plus I'm worried that I'll receive broken unit (it seems to be very easy to break during transportation).

[Anonymous No.10367112]

>>10361014
Top kek

[Anonymous No.10367201]

>>10367094
a 14" or smaller is usually pretty safe to ship, but if you're still worried just check the seller feedback and see if they've ever shipped a crt before.

[Anonymous No.10367202]

How do you guys watch media on your CRTs? Do you get 240p files, or just play whatever? Or maybe you use stuff like Streamio? Been watching 90s anime recently, and while they're in HD, they're in 4:3 which is what I really care about.

[Anonymous No.10367207]

>>10367202
i record stuff on a vhs tape to play back later with my vcr

[Anonymous No.10367230]

>>10367202
I use a DVD player. You can usually pick up DVDs of all kinds of cartoons for cheap. Or old TV shows.

[Anonymous No.10367515]

>>10366873
What's the point? You're overcomplicating things for no reason and get even worse results.

[Anonymous No.10367518]

>>10367202
i use a ps3. you can play mkvs with movian, but they have to be h264

[Anonymous No.10367523]

>>10367010
>inb4 use retroarch and pc
With a CRT, yes.

[Anonymous No.10367545]

>>10367202
>How do you guys watch media on your CRTs
I have an apple tv 1, they are cheap and have component/composite output. I'm running this kodi build which is fairly outdated but does the job, the youtube addon still works with it also

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=363320

out of the box the appletv 1 doesn't support 1080p video but you can get a Broadcom CrystalHD BCM70015 which is also cheap youll maybe be paying like 30 dollars or so for the setup maybe mroe if you wanna put an ssd in there but id highlky recommend this setup you can get very clean 480i output and play 1080p video as long as its not 10bit or above. this is the best media device that natively support component i have been able to find

[Anonymous No.10367584]

>>10367202
TV hooked up over RGB to my computer

[Anonymous No.10367591]

>>10367202
>watching shit in 240p
I hope fucking not
I use a 360 with a DLNA player

[Anonymous No.10367621]

>>10363109
based

[Anonymous No.10367624]

>>10367591
There's all kinds of weirdos

[Anonymous No.10367760]

>>10367584
what's your signal chain?

[Anonymous No.10367783]

>>10367760
Nvidia GPU > DP to VGA adapter > VGA to SCART > CRT TV

[Anonymous No.10368354]

[Anonymous No.10368436]

Ok but actually how do you all handle the constant whining tinnitus noise and the flickering in peripheral vision? Is it a matter of a shitty TV or does that always happen?
It wasn't so bad when I was a kid

[Anonymous No.10368440]

>>10368436
TVs use 15kHz, hence the whine. Some whine louder than others though.
You can always use a VGA CRT if it's that distracting but you'd need extra hardware if you use consoles or some configuration if you emulate.

[Anonymous No.10368558]

>>10367515
BFI is trivial to use and eliminates the double image of the double frame rate. Also, my monitor has a super bright mode that eliminates the brightness loss at the push of a button.

[Anonymous No.10368561]

>>10368354
is that a photo or a shader?

[Anonymous No.10368562]

my jvc crt is running composite in black and white but if I put in my component cable its fine and runs in color, do you guys have any idea whats happening?

[Anonymous No.10368583]

What shader do you use for scanlines? I'm running retroarch at 480p but I want dem scanlines. The ones I've tested don't convince me, they're too static and look awful in movement.

[Anonymous No.10368591]

>>10368558
to get the same results as 480p/60 with a scanline filter, which is much more flexible and less hassle
not to mention, BFI with 120hz for 60hz content, you're still compensating, even with your super bright mode, you're scanning an image with twice the speed, the beam at 60hz doesn't take as long to go back to start as the black frame at 120hz, it just scans the image slower, excites the phosphors better and draws the next image right after having drawn the previous one

but if it works for you, have fun, that's all that matters, I just don't see the point personally

>>10368583
can't check name right now but you don't need anything complex, just the basic one that blanks out every odd line using the emulated consoles output resolution

[Anonymous No.10368598]

>>10368562
Mixing a PAL source with a NTSC set? Component does not use PAL/NTSC encoding, hence why that works but composite doesn't.

[Anonymous No.10368612]

>>10368598
this can't be the case because everything i have is ntsc. whats weird is that i know that it used to show color. is it possible i fucked something up in the menu?

[Anonymous No.10368652]

>>10368612
Weird, what do you have hooked up to it?

[Anonymous No.10368667]

>>10368652
i have two ps2s and a wii
only have composite for the ps2 but have a component cable for the wii

[Anonymous No.10368881]

>>10367783
which vga to scart adapter are you using?

[Anonymous No.10368885]

>>10368612
yeah, there might be a color setting that's set to 0

[Anonymous No.10368895]

>>10368881
DIY

[Anonymous No.10369028]

>>10368561
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10369083]

>>10361019
is it really? I wouldnt mind picking up a PVM or good CRt monitor from somebody in my aread for cheap, prices are crazy still. any idea when?
>>10357019
>dedicated CRT for anime
god I want this so bad

[Anonymous No.10369170]

>>10368436
I have never got the hatred for the whine. Personally, I find the sound soothing. It brings my mind back to better times, before hell world.

[Anonymous No.10369342]

>>10368558
>using 120hz
>and superbright mode
You are a dumb retard gorilla nigger im afraid

[Anonymous No.10369480]

[Anonymous No.10370785]

bump

[Anonymous No.10370827]

So, what's stopping us from doing BST threads again? Be nice to get some traffic and more anons with CRTs. Would we be banned for starting such threads?

[Anonymous No.10370857]

Someone come help me get this fucking thing in my basement so I can get my second TV off of the little cuckcart it's stuck on right now.

>>10369083
>dedicated CRT for anime
Half the reason I wanted a second one was so I could leave the DVD player hooked up and use it while also playing games. I should learn how to do that media server stuff with my PS3, too.

[Anonymous No.10371032]

>>10370857
>I should learn how to do that media server stuff with my PS3
That's kinda useless since you can't adjust overscan. Subtitles will often be offscreen.

[Anonymous No.10371169]

>>10371032
Anon, wtf are you doing with your tv
Fix that shit

[Anonymous No.10371228]

>>10359431
Yes you can, it's just a couple of screws

[Anonymous No.10371231]

>>10351395
my old sony crt has a fucked vga cable, like cheapo headphones the cable has to be in the exact right place to get a clean signal. should i just rip apart a vga extension cable and replace the crt cable with a port?

[Anonymous No.10371239]

>>10371169
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.10371772]

>>10368895
which method did you use for sync combination?

[Anonymous No.10371797]

>>10371772
https://www.retrorgb.com/building-a-passive-sync-combiner.html

[Anonymous No.10371951]

>get PVM
>adjust HSIZE to fill out screen
>areas where black bars were previously are very slightly discolored compared to main area
is this the fabled burn-in i hear so much about?

[Anonymous No.10371990]

>>10371239
I mean overscan is only supposed to cut off the edges, not into the subtitles

[Anonymous No.10371996]

>>10371951
No, if they are vertical it’s jailbars and caused by bad capacitors
If the discolour is in an area, it’s magnetised and needs degaussing
Burn in is very clearly the image burned into the screen

[Anonymous No.10372013]

>>10371797
do you get distortion at the top? does interlaced video work?

[Anonymous No.10372586]

>>10364585
i haven't got too far into the PC cores
i tried fiddling with x68000 a bit
never could get it to run how i wanted it
the "popular" cores are perfect but for deepcut old pc systems you will have to invest some time
"update all cores" wont grab the latest stable release for obscure pc stuff


best of luck anon
maybe an update will come
a lot has been happening with ps1, saturn, and n64 lately

[Anonymous No.10372674]

>>10372586
that sucks guess ill just wait some more years for the cores for mature kek, i'd only wanna use it for the jap systems i dont have so that would be the older computers, also pc engine maybe how is the core for that?

[Anonymous No.10372742]

>picked up a CRT off the road to play PS2 and Xbox on component 480i
>colors completely fucked, even after driving down the bias dark areas are still tinted blue
>shitty black levels, has a dim glow whenever nothing's onscreen instead of proper black
>shitty geometry and no service menu options to fix convergence
>composite inputs work better but that's blurry as shit and has dot crawl, plus would have to go into service mode and change the settings every time i switch between component and composite
>realize i have a CRT with basically none of the benefits of CRTs, ended up just catching dust while i went back to the LCD bluepill and hooked up my consoles to the TV i use as a PC monitor
Fine, jesus, i'll buy a Trinitron.

[Anonymous No.10372745]

>picked up a CRT off the side of the road to play PS2 and Xbox on component 480i
>colors completely fucked, even after driving down the bias dark areas are still tinted blue
>shitty black levels, has a dim glow whenever nothing's onscreen instead of proper black
>shitty geometry and no service menu options to fix convergence
>composite inputs work better but that's blurry as shit and has dot crawl, plus would have to go into service mode and change the settings every time i switch between component and composite
>realize i have a CRT with basically none of the benefits of CRTs, ended up just catching dust while i went back to the LCD bluepill and hooked up my consoles to the TV i use as a PC monitor
Fine, jesus, i'll pay for a Trinitron next time.

[Anonymous No.10372763]

>>10372745
Its not any better on trinitrons lol.
Learn to do convergance manually.
Learn to calibrate colors.
Every issue you have is purely user error

[Anonymous No.10372774]

>>10372674
pc engine and pc engine cd run great
sega 32x and sega cd as well
but composite isnt supported properly on 32x last time i tried on an actual crt

theyll fix it eventually

[Anonymous No.10372831]

>>10372013
Slightly off timings did give me distortion but tweaking them with trial and error finally fixed it.

[Anonymous No.10372860]

>>10372745
dont get a trinitron get a professional grade panasonic or jvc they are very sexy

>13/14 inch
jvc bm-h1400
jvc bm-h1300su
panaosnic bt-h1390

>20 inch
jvc bm-h2000
panasonic bt-m2090
panasonic bt-m1950

[Anonymous No.10372872]

>>10372745
Don’t try to fix it or anything mate
Just give up
>>10372763
Not user error but he should still be able to fix everything with a bit of effort, but that’s obviously not what he wants to do

[Anonymous No.10373051]

>>10372872
There is a good chance that TV doesnt even exist and that anon is a trinitron shill with an ebay market.
Yes these people exist sadly trying to get anons to buy overpriced PVMs

[Anonymous No.10373237]

>>10371228
incredible setup

[Anonymous No.10373332]

>>10371228
Man I miss my old B&O. What an awesome set.

[Anonymous No.10373493]

>>10368612
when i opened the box i ordered from Hd retrovison for a ps2 component cable instead of it being a ps2 cable it was a wii cable :(

[Anonymous No.10373880]

>>10351395
I fucked up the image on my panasonic crt, I'm a newfag so I was just messing around on the service menu thinking I could just factory reset the whole thing, but there's no factory reset option anywhere on the tv settings.

[Anonymous No.10373898]

>>10373880
Good learning experience, keep at it, you'll get it fixed, I bet.

[Anonymous No.10373996]

>>10373880
and that's why you write it down beforehand

[Anonymous No.10374079]

>>10371990
I mean modern subtitles. Old subtitles are fine and are usually in a good spot where the overscan doesn't affect them.

Modern subtitles are obviously made for modern screens and sometimes are too low.
You can't adjust this with the PS3 so sometimes it will cut the subtitles in the middle.

Of course, unless you want to adjust your geometry for every single video.

[Anonymous No.10374102]

i cant take a good photo of a crt
these are stills/screenshots from hdr 4k videos

>apple monitor, recapped, composite
>mister fpga, saturn core, antonioV composite adapter
(no special faggy cores needed)


1/3

[Anonymous No.10374106]

>>10374102
i appreciate the dither/blur
however i swear the waterfalls in sonic 2 still look... odd

[Anonymous No.10374110]

Hi, I'm new to CRTs. I noticed today that my recycling center has some old TVs outside it that look like they've been there a long time. Will the sun have ruined them or is it worth finding one to haul home and test out?

[Anonymous No.10374112]

>>10374102
>>10374106
3/3

also have dreamcast and two brooks adapters
the saturn core is working mostly ok
some graphical fuckups here and there for layers that use the RAM carts but everything seems to run at full speed
i have a fenrir saturn also if i hit a wall

[Anonymous No.10374119]

>>10374110
>bringing in stuff from outside
do you want bugs? in your house?
ask the folks at the center to save you one with s-video+ component
might as well get one with all the inputs you want since you are now officially spergin in public

[Anonymous No.10374123]

>>10374102
>>10374106
>>10374112
4/3

>>10374110
if you SEE them set one out
grab it
if you can speak to the workers ask them to hold a nice one for ya

[Anonymous No.10374131]

>>10374119
>>10374123
I doubt they get paid enough to help me but I'll try asking, thanks

[Anonymous No.10374449]

>>10374079
ps3 subtitles even on movian with homebrew are made on the fly and to fit the screen though, you sure your tv isn't just fucked up?

[Anonymous No.10374478]

>>10374102
>>10374106
>>10374112
It looks like you have the brightness set way too high and it’s washing out all the colour
Take a short video of it and then chose a frame to take the picture you want

[Anonymous No.10374680]

>>10374079
>Old subtitles are fine
>Modern subtitles are obviously made for modern screens
I don't want to sound rude, but what do you think I'm going to be watching on that old TV?

[Anonymous No.10374687]

>>10374079
I don’t see how this is a thing
Modern subtitles are on 16:9 content which won’t get cut off at all on a CRT

[Anonymous No.10374716]

so what's the definitive info on getting a 15khz signal from a GPU to a CRT? I want to hook up either my radeon HD card with dv-i, or my gtx 1080 with displayport to vga, but no one's really posting any definitive setups like if you need a signal processor even after the gpu (which makes no sense because you're presumably already getting it from the gpu?) So if i want to go to composite or s-video, what cable am i getting if i have VGA or DV-I? VGA/DV-I to s-video? someone send me some links, cure my headache here.

[Anonymous No.10374771]

>>10374716
basically what was already discussed on this thread already, but you'd also need a rgb to composite or s-video converter
if you'd have rgb it would be much simpler

[Anonymous No.10374782]

>>10374131
they would rather you take it than it go to waste
they probably have a few for themselves also if they work at such a place

[Anonymous No.10374801]

>>10374771
Im not going vga to scart, i fucking abandoned scart to use s-video/composite with CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10374808]

>>10374801
I don't see the point since you can just use composite filters even if you use rgb, but without signal distortion real composite or s-video give you

[Anonymous No.10374810]

>>10374449
Movian is fine because you can adjust it. But anon was referring to the media server, which uses the PS3 player.
I have used my PS3 on multiple TVs. Pretty much all of them will cut part of the subtitles or make them too close to the bottom of the screen. Not unwatchable I guess, but very distracting.

>>10374680
>>10374687
Not everything was subbed in the 90s or early 2000s. Chances are whatever you'll watch will be using a soft subtitle made after LCDs took over. Unless you specifically look for some old ass VHS rip with shitty hardsubs or watch a DVD (which will have the subtitles a little higher).

[Anonymous No.10374812]

>>10374808
why are you even in these threads?

[Anonymous No.10374813]

>>10374716
i posted a facebook screenshot\rundown in the last threat & got crucified for it
no one wants to do what you're doing apparently

i thought it would have been cool to have a pc inside a crt arcade cabinet with a low-latency encoder for the control pad

[Anonymous No.10374816]

>>10374813
some cunt on reddit bought an aliexpress transcoder and it just worked, but in true reddit fashion, the link was shoah'd and i can't find specifically what he bought on ali
i love knowing 4chan is less useful than fucking reddit

[Anonymous No.10374817]

>>10374812
still don't see the point, you didn't explain anything

[Anonymous No.10374820]

>>10374801
i use a scart to s-video converter
but they're out of production and rare to find now
avoid digital converters as they will drop frames
my chain was CGA>RGB\scart>s-video>RF modulator to CRT

you dont have to use a potato tv
but it was 5$ and the tube is bright\basically new

[Anonymous No.10374826]

>>10374816
i had trouble finding that exact portta comp converter too
its there but will take several minutes of digging
as most for sale now do the opposite of what you need "comp to hdmi lel"

basically any GBS-C will have that comp2vga functionality built in

[Anonymous No.10374828]

>>10374813
>Downscaling
>When you can literally just output 240p/60 from your computer natively

>>10374816
I'd believe reddit could be that dumb.

[Anonymous No.10374829]

>>10374816
>>10374813
if you use a pc and set your resolution to 640x480 and use a dvi-vga adapter or hdmi>vga adapter you might be able to get away with just the last two items in the chain

[Anonymous No.10374832]

>>10374828
not all cards support this
my 3080oc isn't going to let me output 240p lmao

[Anonymous No.10374835]

>>10374829
>640x480
Why?

[Anonymous No.10374838]

>>10374828
if you have the daisychain it will allow non-computer hdmi items to use crt as well
mini arcades, classic mini consoles, shit like that

YES, you could run a specific autismo toaster gpu on a dedicated system specifically for pushing 240p\480 crt resolutions
but the daisy chain is future proof and more cost effective than building another pc rig

[Anonymous No.10374839]

>>10374832
What? Literally using a 3070 in my emulation machine, outputs native 240p/60, using a DP to VGA adapter and VGA to SCART cable. Don't need anything else.
It isn't a GPU limitation, both modern AMD and Nvidia cards work for that.

[Anonymous No.10374842]

>>10374835
a 240p crt will display noise\fuckups if you feed it higher resolution signals than it is designed for

you could just avoid all this and use a lagless hdmi>vga adapter & get a vga pc crt that supports the refresh rate for vidya

THAT imo is the absolute cheapest way
however my current crt coil-whines at anything 720p or higher sadly

[Anonymous No.10374845]

>>10374810
>Chances are whatever you'll watch will be using a soft subtitle made after LCDs took over
I literally watch .ass/ssa stylised subs on my 360 through DLNA
there are no subtitles cut off even with overscan and no I don't have to alter it for every console
to me it just sounds like you've overscanned too far

[Anonymous No.10374846]

>>10374839
are you running some kind of custom driver?

[Anonymous No.10374851]

>>10374838
>you could run a specific autismo toaster gpu
Why? See >>10374839

>but the daisy chain is future proof and more cost effective than building another pc rig
HDMI or DP to VGA adapters (good ones) are literally 15 bucks.

>>10374842
Why would you feed it the wrong mode? Just make 15kHz modes, like 240p/60Hz.

>>10374846
No, just add your own modelines, either in X if you use Linux or with CRU if you use Windows.


Not at my PC right now but here's a screenshot from /vr/ CRT general archives. We've had these discussions dozens of times over the last few years.

[Anonymous No.10374854]

>>10374851
>>10374839
okay let's take your idea of just using HDMI to VGA, setting that custom video mode and converting that to Scart,
what if i bought this cunt right here https://www.amazon.com/RGB-Scart-Composite-S-Video-Adapter/dp/B014HJHSJA and just connected that s-video to my CRT? That'll be it?

[Anonymous No.10374857]

>>10374716
serious answer is the wakabavideo vga to ntsc encoder on ebay. There are 2 available right now and they'll disappear in 2 seconds so get going

[Anonymous No.10374860]

>>10374854
That's a passive adapter and it's to connect composite/S-Video to a SCART port of a TV. If you want composite or S-Video, you'd need a active adapter that does RGBS to composite or S-Video.

[Anonymous No.10374865]

>>10374860
>If you want composite or S-Video, you'd need a active adapter that does RGBS to composite or S-Video.
many cheap adapter suck though or are locked to 480i and add latency
it would be easier and better quality to rgb mod your tv if you don't have rgb or scart

[Anonymous No.10374874]

>>10374845
I actually don't ever adjust geometry unless I see something obviously wrong like underscan. So I guess my TVs have more overscan than an "adjusted" set.

It depends on the size and shape of your TV too. A smaller curved set will have more overscan than a big flat screen.

[Anonymous No.10374875]

>>10374857
made me look, i'll give ya that

these brit cunts seem to have an identical product that's in stock and half the price https://www.retroupgrades.co.uk/product/vga2ntsc-converter/

>>10374860
i might just pick this up honestly https://www.retroupgrades.co.uk/product/vga2ntsc-converter/

[Anonymous No.10374878]

>>10374854
>converting that to Scart
Also you don't really need to convert anything, the cable just needs to join the sync signals, since the RGB output from the HDMI or DP to VGA adapter would already be 15kHz, like 240p at 60Hz.

>>10374865
I'm not an expert on Composite or S-Video converters, but I'm sure it can be done decently too if you have the right hardware.

[Anonymous No.10374879]

>>10374875
>half the price
my conversion rate from queen bucks to sam bucks seems to be off by a whole $10, oops
>>10374878
the implication was i'd need scart anyway, so just go scart to those outputs, but it seems i don't need that setup at all anyway if that brit kit works

[Anonymous No.10374882]

>>10374875
>i might just pick this up honestly
That seems like it could do the job.

>>10374879
>the implication was i'd need scart anyway, so just go scart to those outputs, but it seems i don't need that setup at all anyway if that brit kit works
Yeah, you could go straight from the VGA output to the VGA2NTSC converter, if it works like it claims. Haven't used it though. You'd still have to set up custom modes though but those aren't hard to google.

[Anonymous No.10374959]

>>10374810
>But anon was referring to the media server, which uses the PS3 player
I've never really looked into the process, so when I said "media server," I just meant general serving of content through the PS3 to the TV, since it's the only thing I currently have that will output 480i through component cables while also having internet and application capability. I've got pretty much everything to learn about the process.
Plus, not everything I'd watch would need subtitles.

[Anonymous No.10374964]

>>10374959
Look up Universal Media Server
I can safely say I've never had any subs cut off on the bottom

[Anonymous No.10375008]

>>10374882
>$70 for the VGA2NTSC
nope, not goin with it after all.
I mean like i said i even have the fuckin AMD card people recommend with CRTemudriver, i really don't get why this is complicated.. its going way over my head here.
>then those autists just suggesting straight scart mods and scart cables not understanding the point here

[Anonymous No.10375034]

>>10373880
A factory rest of the service menu will return the settings to the state it was in before it was calibrated at the factory. Unless you have the factory service manual that would be exceedingly bad.

[Anonymous No.10375065]

>>10353278
Sony BVMs are a step above PVMs, highly valuable. These appear to all be in superb condition.. you need to take them, so that if anything they won't wind up in the garbage. Depending on how nice you wanna be, you can sell them for cheap (or not) to somebody who would really appreciate them.

[Anonymous No.10375082]

>>10375065
that's not true at all, they were just used for broadcasting
most of them are actually more worn than majority of PVM's

[Anonymous No.10375139]

Thoughts on the GBS-C? Worth it? Is the one in AlieExpress good?

[Anonymous No.10375230]

>>10351395
I hate alcoholics

[Anonymous No.10375257]

>>10374478
its just the camera

[Anonymous No.10375306]

how do you do fellow kidz?

[Anonymous No.10375307]

>>10375257
I doubt that, the surrounding picture looks fine

[Anonymous No.10375324]

>>10375307
the iphone i have has a hard time seeing the screen
it always blows it out or adds artifacting
>>10374782
>>10374123
these are both the same set
difficult to capture the color depth/dithering

[Anonymous No.10375326]

>>10375306

[Anonymous No.10375330]

>>10375324
your camera has AIDS my man
>dont worry mine kinda does too
>taking crt photos is tough when you cant adjust shutter speed and shit

[Anonymous No.10375334]

>up close
>smaller crt
>but i have to take a screenshot of the image because the raw filesize is huge

[Anonymous No.10375481]

>>10375008
It's less than 50 bucks with postage though on the site you linked.
That is if you really need proper s-video or composite instead of plain RGBs, which would be much easier (and you don't need CRTemudriver or a old AMD GPU for it regardless these days).

[Anonymous No.10375483]

>>10375481
nah with postage its $70
man yes i am just trying to use s-video and composite

[Anonymous No.10375487]

>>10375230
nothing wrong with a drink once in awhile
but humans are creatures of habit
if you dont worship GOD
you will worship something else instead
what consumes your thoughts controls your life


>>10375334
sauce on the mod
i have one somewhere for snes called
"super metroid - uncensored"
but i think it was just an added animation
where her suit breaks down & shows her nude

kinda neat

[Anonymous No.10375490]

>>10375487
positive i got a huge archive from loverslab, from one of the threads
also JUST noticed this super metroid specific thread they have, and someone's doing a busty thick samus mod so thats awesome
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/193192-metroid-related-adult-hacksmods/page/3/

[Anonymous No.10375527]

>>10375490
down the rabbithole now
if you can throw it on mediafire it would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.10375532]

>>10375527
https://www.mediafire.com/file/tcf9c7v5jmmth0a/Super_Metroid_Nude_hack_compilation.zip/file
have fun m8

[Anonymous No.10375534]

>>10375527
kekked

[Anonymous No.10375537]

>>10375532
thanks based anon
closing my incognito tabs now kek
i have never beat super metroid
played the shit out of fusion when it released though

[Anonymous No.10375547]

>>10375537
same ive never finished it, my first real run has been on that crt with that particular nude mod
god what a fucking kino title, absolute state of tendorks to rank the best snes games with metroid rarely making top 3. it's an untouchable gem.
>>10375527
>>10375534
ive seen some really nice justin bailey custom stickers but they're expensive. i kinda wanna make my own nude mod bootleg one day, just to run on my childhood snes.

[Anonymous No.10375557]

>>10375547
so i added everything to my flashcart
which one specifically was in your photo kek

[Anonymous No.10375559]

>>10375557
>>10375547
there are a few repros of bailey version on etsy for like $20
but it would be fun to get the eprom burner and make your own carts
transparent shells
custom labels
all that

[Anonymous No.10375582]

>>10375557
AirAustinUH
had to fuckin load up my gamecube and check which had savestates cause i already forgot kek

>wont even have time/privacy to play this shit again till monday

[Anonymous No.10375585]

>>10375582
based

[Anonymous No.10375591]

>>10375585
fuck i really want more coomer shit to watch/play on my crts
this is why i want to do the hdmi/vgatosvideo stuff, all those pixelshit hentai games would look heavenly.
>even that silly little spoilered image you shared just ignites that flame in me

[Anonymous No.10375720]

Is it worth is to pick up a free HP m90 with color and brightness issues? Assuming I'm not a retard and get my electrocuted. How difficult is it to fix brightness and color in this CRT?

[Anonymous No.10375753]

>>10375591
>fuck i really want more coomer shit to watch/play on my crts
you should get into pc98

[Anonymous No.10375758]

>>10375753
hearing that shit gives me PTSD.
>wii pc98 emu hasnt been updated in almost a decade
>xbox "works" but i honestly need all the upgrades for my xbox and i dont wanna do it right now
>really best option is emulation on pc but that goes back to "i need to set up the fucking pc to crt situation"

[Anonymous No.10375764]

>>10375591
i posted some others in the gb camera thread
its from steamhearts

[Anonymous No.10375785]

>>10375324
The Moire effect is normal but I have a hard time believing it is uniformly over brightness like that

[Anonymous No.10375793]

>>10375785
ill try to take some better photos

[Anonymous No.10375798]

>>10375326
>>10375785
its weird because i can flick the larger sets no problem
and the pvm too

[Anonymous No.10375804]

>>10375798
i mean it still looks "too bright" but i think ill try a different phone when i get home anon

[Anonymous No.10375805]

>>10375798
these both still look over bright, all the blacks are grey

[Anonymous No.10376890]

>>10375758
>really best option is emulation on pc but that goes back to "i need to set up the fucking pc to crt situation"
Most PC-98 games run at 640x400, so hooking up a regular VGA monitor and using 640x480 with black bars on top and bottom wouldn't be much different from the real thing.

[Anonymous No.10376898]

>>10375758
>>10376890
Best option is to import a cheap NEC PC98 laptop from Nippon.

[Anonymous No.10377012]

>>10376898
But they have shitty LCD screens?
Unless you're talking about hooking them up to a monitor, but I doubt you'll easily find one that will sync to 24kHz.

[Anonymous No.10377050]

>>10377012
most games and software can be forced to run at 31khz mode

[Anonymous No.10377294]

>>10377050
Oh nice, didn't know that.
I looked a bit and here's a pic I found of YU-NO running on a 24kHz and 31kHz monitor next to each other.

[Anonymous No.10377507]

Ecks dee

[Anonymous No.10377687]

>component-compatible CRTs nowhere to be found locally (either that or they are the gigantic 200lb widescreen ones nobody wants)
>can afford a nice PVM
>remind myself that it's nearly $1000 for something that would be thrown in a dumpster ten years ago
>doesn't work on my brain
how do i stop myself from making this retarded purchase
i barely even play games on the tiny one i have now

[Anonymous No.10377782]

>>10377687
>how do i stop myself from making this retarded purchase
I know a guy that found a PVM in the trash a few days ago.
Maybe the fact that most of the PVMs on ebay are literal worn out trash is enough.
If someone found a few PVMs in the trash, he is gonna keep the best condition ones to himself.
ebay is really full of junk

[Anonymous No.10377939]

>>10377687
Just go for a composite set, clear sharp picture is overrated

[Anonymous No.10377972]

>>10377939
not for DC and 6th gen

[Anonymous No.10378131]

>>10377507
based, did something similar once

[Anonymous No.10378146]

>>10377972
6th gen can support PAL60 which has much better quality then NTSC composite.
Pal composite is nearly S video quality

[Anonymous No.10378163]

>>10378146
and PAL s-video is even better?

[Anonymous No.10378208]

>>10378146
Pal and NTSC mean nothing with RGB
I hardly see how that is relevant

[Anonymous No.10378216]

>>10378208
Who even mentioned RGB here?

[Anonymous No.10378251]

>>10378216
What do you think was being discussed when talking about clarity and 6th gen

[Anonymous No.10378269]

>>10378251
composite, see >>10377939 >>10378146
nobody mentioned rgb

[Anonymous No.10378321]

>>10378269
Anon, you know that you are replying to people right?

[Anonymous No.10378794]

>>10378321
yeah, even AI wouldn't be that dumb

[Anonymous No.10379168]

>>10377939
but i can barely see oncoming traffic cars in burnout on composite

[Anonymous No.10379217]

>>10379168
don't listen to composhit cope, RGB all the way

[Anonymous No.10379380]

>>10377507
>black bars
What's the point?

[Anonymous No.10379654]

>>10379380
To preserve the aspect ratio of the input image?

[Anonymous No.10379901]

>>10375324
does iphone not have an advanced mode in the camera app? drop the shutter speed to match the refreshrate and then lower the iso

[Anonymous No.10379910]

>>10374110
damn lucky at mine they cage them up and put a lock on the cage because muh health and safety regulations, they always have tonnes of crts in there that are going to get destroyed it makes me sad

[Anonymous No.10379995]

>>10375008
vga2ntsc is open source, so it might be cheaper to buy the components and assemble it yourself
https://github.com/jnftech/vga2ntsc-kicad

[Anonymous No.10380037]

>>10379901
my method was to shoot a 4k video at 24fps
but that doesn't help the "blowout"
it either blackens the room and oversaturates the crt or it seems comically bright in the room

in real life, obv it looks normal
heres my larger 30inch zenith

[Anonymous No.10380052]

>>10377294
that looks amazing
i think it would be cheaper to get a toaster pc & hdmi2av adapter
they work fine for cartoons
hardcore shmups\platformers need not apply due to frame-drop but for Point&click and visual novel\rpg tiddy simulators it seems perfect

i might build a small \bst\ just for pc98\x68000
rehouse a intel NUC+video adapter into a cool case (repurposed vintage item) and have it on deck near the crt at all times

[Anonymous No.10380053]

>>10380037
>at 24fps
why would you do that?
do either 30 or 60

[Anonymous No.10380069]

>>10380052
>hdmi2av
as you said, only really good for 480i video and only if you have a modeline that's 1:1 with the adapter's output

[Anonymous No.10380073]

>>10375306
gamu? this girl is cute

[Anonymous No.10380075]

>>10380053
i'll retry today
i wanted to wait until my adapter came for my dreamcasts
i wanted to shoot some vga footage
& see if my pc monitor still "whines" at lower resolutions

[Anonymous No.10380076]

>>10375559
>>10375547
ive done it with gba by getting some chink gba carts and reflashing them + printing labels so i have pokemon event cart repros, it is fun id recommend getting a snes cart flasher and doing the same

[Anonymous No.10380082]

>>10380073
gekirindan
dont overspend for the saturn version
this is filmed using fenrir
it is on a ps2 compilation as well
also on the taito egret mini 2 expansion sd card 'memories vol 1'

[Anonymous No.10380091]

>>10380052
i will now buy a pcfx

[Anonymous No.10380092]

>>10380076
its autistic but this is the type of shit my family would do
we would all stay up all night
time travel on our ds and get the events from a flashcart with appropriate dates\times for "legit" distribution mon

if only we knew that those where the good old days when we were actually IN them

[Anonymous No.10380096]

>>10380082
thanks
>dont overspend for the saturn version
ill just burn to a cd

[Anonymous No.10380098]

>>10380091

[Anonymous No.10380108]

>>10380098
damn nice, i really need to try picking up nipponese again, i was pretty into it after i finished uni a few years ago. was doing anki daily ontop of jisho and writing practice didn't continue after i got a job and have forgotten everything kek

[Anonymous No.10380117]

>>10380108
>jisho
i meant duolingo kek

[Anonymous No.10380319]

>>10375720
it might not be possible to tell just from the symptoms how easy it would be to fix, but what are the issues?

>>10377687
>gigantic 200lb widescreen ones
these could work, depending on the model and your use case.

[Anonymous No.10380672]

>>10379901
>>10380075
You can change the shutter speed, but you have to go into Settings instead of it being an option in the camera itself. Kind of stupid to not just give the app itself all of the features at hand.

[Anonymous No.10380927]

>>10380052
i ran 240p test suit on snes
frames dropped on average is 2-3

i will retest using my windows 10pc i just finished configuring

thats basically "playable"? right?
3-4 dropped frames is still passing the super mario test?

my original plan was slow rpg and simple easy titles
(pc-98 translations and booba art)

but this potentially could be a nice setup for $6

[Anonymous No.10381912]

Anyone know how to fix this shit?
Posted in the /g/ thread too >>>/g/97117673

(the picture issue, not the dead Dreamcast battery)

[Anonymous No.10381956]

>>10381912
>4:3 stretched to 16:9

[Anonymous No.10381968]

>>10381956
A screen like that is perfect for gen 6 consoles.

[Anonymous No.10382139]

>>10381912
that's vertical foldover. could be a cap in the vertical circuit

[Anonymous No.10382164]

>>10382139
Blech, I bought this thing from a heavy smoker and the guts are caked in dust and cig tar. I'll have to scrub the board before I can do any soldering.

[Anonymous No.10382180]

>>10382164
>I'll have to scrub the board before I can do any soldering
throw it in the dishwasher

[Anonymous No.10382189]

>>10382180
Bold of you to think I have a dishwasher.

[Anonymous No.10382398]

>>10382189
you're single?

[Anonymous No.10383263]

>>10379654
If it's a 640x400 image it's meant to be vertically stretched to 4:3. This was standard for PC's at the time.
>>10380092
Limited distributions are bullshit. Nintendo should be running retro events where people can do the same events once a year. But nah, that steals profits from new games or some other excuse.

[Anonymous No.10383550]

So when is this CRT price crash supposed to happen? I really want a viewsonic monitor for cheap

[Anonymous No.10383563]

>>10383263
Not him but that's an xbone not DOS. Why would you assume any aspect ratio other than 16:9? Everything on the screen maintains the correct aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.10383615]

>>10383550
>price drop
it's hard to drop from free

[Anonymous No.10383617]

>>10383615
>I'll give you money to take it off my hands

[Anonymous No.10383630]

>>10383617
Has happened with pretty high end CRTs for me. Mostly boomers too lazy to haul it away themselves into recycling. Plus recyclers here ask money too for things like CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10383683]

>>10383615
I live in commiefornia unfortunately, so Boomers and collectors are still overvaluing CRT monitors, PVM's etc

[Anonymous No.10384128]

>>10383550
when retrotinks stop being $300

[Anonymous No.10384139]

>find 20in pvm locally for not-terrible price
>bring it home
>geometry isnt bad but the picture looks awful
>colors super washed out (of course its a low end PVM so color temp/tint is not easily accessible)
>have to turn brightness way down and crank contrast all the way to the maximum to get a remotely usable picture
i'm guessing i'm going to have to adjust something internally, what should I be looking for?

[Anonymous No.10384145]

>>10384139
Needs a recap and adjustment of the G2 voltage

[Anonymous No.10384160]

>>10384145
what if i've never touched a soldering iron in my life

[Anonymous No.10384165]

>>10384160
find someone who has or start learning now

[Anonymous No.10384170]

>>10383263
>If it's a 640x400 image it's meant to be vertically stretched to 4:3. This was standard for PC's at the time.
Unless we're talking about the PC-98, it displayed that res in 16:10, with black bars and square pixels.

[Anonymous No.10384583]

>>10384170
thanks for posting this
ill post an emulation +crt photo when i get home

[Anonymous No.10384608]

>>10384139
>>have to turn brightness way down and crank contrast all the way to the maximum to get a remotely usable picture
It's on its way out.

>>10384145
G2 won't drift so much to cause it, the tube is worn out, G2 adjustment will only help a little and temporary.

[Anonymous No.10384624]

>>10384608
FW900s actually have a problem with G2 increasing over time. Don't know if this problem also effects any PVM models. It's also possible that someone before him was inside shitting things up.

[Anonymous No.10384629]

>>10384608
Which is why I said caps
a worn tube won't be able to get bright and the colours will be off

[Anonymous No.10384634]

>>10384624
It's usually Occam's razor.

>>10384629
They can, just contrast is bad.
New caps and G2 adjustment can help a little though, not saying it won't. But if this was a low end set, I'd believe it more.

[Anonymous No.10384789]

Hey anons, is there any to hook up my PC to my CRT TV without using some old GPU? TV has component/composite and GPU has HDMI (and I have a VGA adapter around)

[Anonymous No.10384917]

>>10384789
CTRL+F nigga, we have 20 posts like yours every thread.

[Anonymous No.10384924]

>>10384139
Its worn out.
Heres what you do:
Lower G2 to get a usable image.
Remove the antiglare to make the image brighter again.
If you are lucky that is enough to make it usuable.

[Anonymous No.10385007]

>>10384789
depends on how lagless you are trying to go
for rpgs and cartoon/media playback?
i just use the cheapest shittiest white box hdmi2av converter
I would advise against hooking up an expensive PC to that though

i also have a vga to av adapter
both add 2-5 frames of lag

[Anonymous No.10385043]

>>10384789
You'd need to go HDMI to VGA and VGA (RGB) to component or VGA2NTSC (for composite) if you lack SCART or RGB in.

>>10385007
Those HDMI to AV adapters really are only good for 480i/480p video. Even then they can't properly (1:1) display interlaced content or do proper 480p to 480i conversion.

[Anonymous No.10385174]

Sorry anons, I really don't understand a lot about the tech. Would this thing work? It sounds about right on paper
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005721269873.html

[Anonymous No.10385208]

>>10385174
technically it should

[Anonymous No.10385742]

>>10383550
They can be found cheap at thrift stores and rummage sales

[Anonymous No.10385781]

>>10363109
ToT

[Anonymous No.10385908]

>>10385174
I used one for a bit before getting my scart/rgb switcher, worked fine.

[Anonymous No.10385924]

>>10385908
Does it output 15KHz?

[Anonymous No.10385930]

Is there an upscaler/convert that can take everything SCART can offer like composite, s-video, rgb, etc. and puts it out on VGA?

[Anonymous No.10386101]

>>10385924
Yes, if you input 15kHz to it, the signal comes from your computer, there's no active conversion.

[Anonymous No.10386105]

>>10385930
That's what a scandoubler is.

[Anonymous No.10386189]

>>10386101
I see. Do you have a modern GPU? I wonder if my Nvidia can output 15Khz

[Anonymous No.10386212]

>>10386189
It can, if you have the right HDMI or DP to VGA adapter. DeLock, StarTech and Rankie adapters work. You need to create the 15kHz modes yourself though, like with CRU if you use Windows.

[Anonymous No.10386225]

your moms must be pissed running up the electrical bill with these CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10386230]

>>10386225
I distract her by leaving on the lights

[Anonymous No.10386232]

>>10386225
>thinking CRTs actually consume a lot of power
Only at startup they briefly take the rated power that's marked on the back. A 21 inch CRT takes less power than a 42 inch panel.

[Anonymous No.10386249]

>>10386212
Would just creating a custom res like this work?

[Anonymous No.10386318]

>>10386249
Technically yes but you need to set the proper sub-timings, auto doesn't usually work. Plus you need to adjust your porches to properly center your picture and not lose a lot to overscan (you can do that with your CRTs service menu too, if your CRT supports it). CRU is generally better for creating custom modes and lets you fine tune more.

You can find plenty of 15kHz modes for different consoles etc online, just google for 15khz modelines.

Like:
https://www.. improwis. com/tables/video.webt
https://www.. geocities. ws/podernixie/htpc/modes-en.html
(space after the dot since 4chan thinks it's spam)

Take your time to learn about the timings, it will help you configure things for your setup if you know what each does.


P.S. you can use super resolutions too, like 2560x240p, theoretically better quality and helps with emulators for aspect ratio correction.

[Anonymous No.10386380]

>>10386318
well fuck
thanks anon, just purchased the transcoder thing and will figure it out when it arrives

[Anonymous No.10386552]

>>10386380
Here's a CRU config file you can import and try. Remember to select the HDMI or DP adapter first from the list, don't accidentally overwrite your main monitor (you can reset to default though by just deleting the profile and restarting your PC).

https://files.catbox.moe/onpb3q.bin

You can try that, should work with any normal NTSC or PAL set. Has some common resolutions and refresh rate for more popular consoles. RetroArch can auto switch resolution and refresh rate itself when CRT SwitchRes is enabled and the adapter is set as output, set the super resolution width to 2560, it will look squished when it's displaying the desktop but RetroArch will adjust itself to display the proper aspect ratio.
Remember to never feed 31kHz into your CRT TV (if it accidentally happens, quickly turn off the TV), always turn on the TV after you're already booted into your OS, otherwise it might output 31+ kHz turning bootup. The profile linked has only 15kHz modes, so once you're booted, it won't accidentally switch to a 31+ kHz mode.

Good luck and have fun.

[Anonymous No.10386664]

>>10386552
Thanks a lot anon, I'll check it soon

[Anonymous No.10387125]

What is actually sharpness on CRTs? On LCDs I know it's just a shitty post processing filter, but on my CRT I need at least a little bit for the image not look all blurry. If it's a filter, why's 0 not "disabled"?
This TV also has a Noise Reduction option that seems to ignore sharpness and give me a decent picture, so what's that as well?

[Anonymous No.10387249]

>>10387125
what model do you have?

[Anonymous No.10387278]

>>10387249
29PT5642

[Anonymous No.10387447]

>>10356281
Why do you even need a pvm,i paid 20 bucks for a toshiba 14af46c and it has component and s video and im happy with it.

[Anonymous No.10387652]

>>10387447
because i live in an area where everyone thinks their component compatible consumer set is worth its weight in gold and wants PVM-tier prices for them
i.e. 20 inch wegas are being listed for $400+ and reasonable listings get sniped within minutes of posting
aka hell on earth
reddit and retro gaymer youtube channels need to be nuked

[Anonymous No.10387661]

>>10387125
>I need at least a little bit for the image not look all blurry
Always set the sharpness to just before the white rings around everything forms, usually set to about 25%

[Anonymous No.10387669]

>>10385007
>I would advise against hooking up an expensive PC to that though
Why? What happens if an expensive PC hooks up to it?

[Anonymous No.10387707]

>>10387669
>chinese thing that was $6 fucks up
>wow cool my gaymen pc is fried cool

[Anonymous No.10387713]

>>10385043
i dont have a compelling photo/video
but ive been enjoying mine
for shitty quality torrents of 4:3 tv shows its serviceable

HOWEVER i only watch faggy stuff and cartoons
if you are expecting a "definitive experience" aka 1:1 vcr replacement you will be disappointed


protip: change wangblows font settings to max size for blind ppl and its readable at 240p

[Anonymous No.10387757]

>>10387707
you have no idea what you're talking about retard

[Anonymous No.10387886]

>>10387125
its pre processing basically enhances contrast.
as for noise reduction that really is just post processing crap that you should really turn off unless you are watching VHS or something

[Anonymous No.10388143]

Can you run 240p test suite on a PS2? I have mine modded and able to run burned CDs with PS1 games, but this thing somehow just gives me a black screen

[Anonymous No.10388195]

>>10388143
The PS1 version works on a PS2, but the controller support is buggy. DS2 won't work for me at all, while DS1 registers too many inputs at once, so it's kinda hard to get around the menus. It's fine otherwise.
Try restarting the console a few times, mine is a bit finicky with PS1 imports and CD-Rs, kinda hard to make it boot them sometimes, but once it boots everything is OK, without any FMV/CD audio skipping or anything. Might be the modchip that's at fault here, compared to my PS1 that has major skipping issues on CD-Rs, so that's just a weak laser.

[Anonymous No.10388274]

>>10388195
Thanks, I thought it wouldn't work on the PS2 due to some quirk. I'll try again

[Anonymous No.10389724]

>>10379995
comin back to this thread days later after forgetting about it, thanks man i had no idea it was even open sourced
I will have to look into that for genuine consideration sometime this month, at the very least for a good DIY soldering practice project.

[Anonymous No.10389735]

>this isn't even the entire BOM for that vga2ntsc
my heart, it aches.

[Anonymous No.10389998]

>just search local listings bro thats how i got mine they're basically giving them away!

[Anonymous No.10390073]

>>10389998
also
>just check gov auctions bro!
>it's all old LCDs that are legitimately junk

[Anonymous No.10390101]

>>10389998
>>10390073
>go to ewaste place
>grab a crt for free
as shrimple as that.
or just grab one from the side of the road with a bit of good RNG

[Anonymous No.10390115]

>>10390101
probably my only option at this point besides paying the good goy tax
>recycling fees for CRTs
lmao they must have way too many of them

[Anonymous No.10390134]

>>10390115
damn thats nice I bet people not wanting to pay pile these up outside somewhere easy and free

[Anonymous No.10390240]

>>10386249
different systems and arcade games run at different 15khz resolutions and refresh rates. crtemudriver on an old radeon card, or retro arch crt settings are probably the easies options, but they aren't super easy to deal with. You could also try Groovyarcade linux on a live usb and see if it works, you have to use a file manager called midnight reaper though, but its pretty nifty actually.

[Anonymous No.10390243]

>>10390240
sorry, midnight commander, I guess I was thinking about nightmare reaper haha

[Anonymous No.10390282]

>>10387125
there is a sharpness control on the flyback transformer as well, don't break anything, but make tiny adjustments and check

[Anonymous No.10390327]

>>10390240
You don't have to use an old Radeon card, you can just install all the modes from CRTemudriver if you don't want to set up the modes manually.

[Anonymous No.10390593]

>>10390073
Are those 2001FPs? Those things are nice as fuck AIO solutions

[Anonymous No.10390626]

>>10390593
probably, most of the lots in this auction is hardware UNLV is getting rid of and they arent exactly a poor school. lots of iMacs and random servers too

[Anonymous No.10390632]

I got this for free a couple of months ago. Works fine. I did however recently try to connect a Wii with component cables and the port seems to be fucked up. I tried the component cables on a different TV and it worked so it's definitely the TV. Is it worth trying to fix?

[Anonymous No.10390673]

>>10390626
granted they are pretty fucking old, but I wouldn't turn one down for dirt cheap

[Anonymous No.10390723]

>>10387757
anon you dont want to send stray voltage up your hdmi port on your gpu kek
use china jank at your own risk

[Anonymous No.10390839]

to discharge a crt does the anode cap have to be plugged in?

[Anonymous No.10390846]

>>10390632
was your wii set to output progressive video? have you tried another component source on the tv like a dvd player?

[Anonymous No.10391037]

>>10390839
sounds dangerous

[Anonymous No.10391048]

>>10390839
Whoah whoah anon
do not try to discharge anything that is on
what do you think charge means in an electrical capacity

[Anonymous No.10391130]

PCE bros rise up

[Anonymous No.10391147]

>>10391130
wtf is that?

[Anonymous No.10391148]

>>10391037
>>10391048
is this a joke? the anode cap, I said. not the tv.

[Anonymous No.10391157]

>>10391148
What do you think discharge means anon

[Anonymous No.10391169]

>>10391147
Meant to post the closer up pic.
Commodore 1702 hooked up to a PC Engine Duo-RX

[Anonymous No.10391173]

>>10391169

[Anonymous No.10391181]

>>10391148
Oh, you mean the rubber cap being on, lol
it's safer for you to leave it on yeah, but it doesn't have to be on, no

[Anonymous No.10391653]

>>10391130
>>10391173
Sexy. Would look even better with RGB.

[Anonymous No.10391932]

>>10391130
>>10391173
thats a sexy little tv

[Anonymous No.10392827]

Hey

[Anonymous No.10392840]

>>10351395
based alcoholic

[Anonymous No.10392978]

>>10392827
nice CRTower

[Anonymous No.10393060]

>>10392827
what are the aspect ratios of the top two?

[Anonymous No.10393220]

>>10393060
Usually the tiny CRTs are 5:4

[Anonymous No.10393353]

So I've been pissing around trying to get the PSP version of SO2 to not look like ass somehow, which ends up involving cranking the rendering resolution to the moon to try to get the assets to display without the fucked up display scaling they did to make them fit on the PSP screen (mind you the way this game is made with sprites and pre-rendered backgrounds moving in in 3D is kind of fucked up even on PS1) and then getting a display resolution that's an even fraction of that. Putting it on my CRT monitor letterboxed generally works better than anything else I've got going, but if I only go to 960x720 (PSP is 480x272) while text is good there's still a bit of unevenness in the sprite scaling. Going up to 1440x1080 is better, but the weird thing about that is the highest resolution this monitor was advertised for was 1280x1024 and its primary intended resolution was 1024x768@75Hz so why the fuck is this even working and is it a good idea? The horizontal scan range is supposed to be 64kHz and this is ostensibly 67