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Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:10:46 2023 No.10341451 [Reply] [Original]

It is literally LITERALLY the same level design and combat taken straight from Tomb Raider. And don't try and tell me I'm a schizo for saying this, Nintendo said they delayed Ocarina because Banjo-Kazooie had better graphics. Nintendo knows other games exist, they aren't dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:12:01 2023 No.10341452 Nobody cares about Britjank

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:35:17 2023 No.10341507 Okay

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:41:04 2023 No.10341519 >>10341451 spirit temple has the bacon lara puzzle too

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:54:59 2023 No.10341549
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>>10341451
It's the starting village; it's DESIGNED to teach the human child player using a video game controller, sitting in front of their television, how to to jump and climb. What distance a jump will go, how high Link will jump, what happens when you fall from a tall height and hit the water vs. hit the ground.

Your bait thread is like saying
>Towns at the beginning of the game are all the same!
>Enemies at the beginning of the game are all easy!
>Shops at the beginning of the game are cheap!
>Racing tracks on the easiest, first stages, are just circles!

When games don't have "training" at the beginning, people generally hate them and review them poorly, thinking the game mechanics suck (because they don't have a clue what their character is and isn't capable of).

Shut up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:58:00 2023 No.10341560 File: 71 KB, 1024x679, 1675808644536061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unlike TR, OoT is actually good though t. psx supremacist, but mature enough to give credit when it's due

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:02:15 2023 No.10341571 Why did TR sell so well when it's so shit?

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:05:28 2023 No.10341582

>>10341560
Stop lying to people on the internet, they’re both fine games, it’s really just preference. I played the shit out of both around the same time and I enjoyed both, I prefer tomb raider these days because it’s got more depth of challenge than oot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:05:52 2023 No.10341586 >>10341571 Polygonal tiddies

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:07:08 2023 No.10341591 >>10341571 was hugely popular with women because it's more like a puzzle game, but a 3D puzzle and one of the best in the genre

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:24:27 2023 No.10341619 >>10341451 Least mentally deranged /vr/ poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:24:41 2023 No.10341621 Stop having a japanese company living rent free inside of you at least during the weekends. I get that you can't get attention from women, but be decent to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:25:46 2023 No.10341626 File: 3.33 MB, 704x384, tomb raider gameplay.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341582 >they’re both fine games TR is genuinely bad and did not stand the test of time in any way

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:26:13 2023 No.10341627 >>10341560 Silent Hill 1 > OoT > any PS1 game that's not SH1

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:26:19 2023 No.10341628 >>10341451 >It is literally LITERALLY the same level design and combat taken straight from Tomb Raider You might be clinically retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:27:46 2023 No.10341630 >>10341621 Bitches love my Nintendo hateboner

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:28:51 2023 No.10341632
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>>10341451
Okay OP, spotlight's on you: Explain in detail how the combat and level design are the same in both games. If they're literally the same, then surely you can tell us in great length what the similarities are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:31:59 2023 No.10341640 >>10341626 This puts me at ease.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:37:13 2023 No.10341650

>>10341632
I think he's talking about the lock-on targetting, which it's true that was falsely attributed to OoT when other games had it.

Tomb Raider and Zelda OoT are incredibly different games. I'm not a huge OoT fan, but it's better than the Tomb Raider series despite them being great AAA games.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:45:01 2023 No.10341665

>>10341650
Yeah I want to see OP try and explain this in detail. I've seen some very special Anons here on /vr/ try to reason that OoT copied TR because of the lock on. So I want to see if OP actually has some logical conclusion as to why in the fuck he thinks this.
Or maybe he's one of those special Anons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:49:36 2023 No.10341678 >>10341665 NTA but there was a video with the guy who made Syphon Filter, he said he saw Miyamoto being impressed with TR during E3 1996 or some shit like that

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:59:04 2023 No.10341927 File: 8 KB, 300x207, 1697572150784870.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341627 Hello zoomer, what makes you like SH1 so much? I admit it's good, but lol, nice try.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 01:15:48 2023 No.10342057 [DELETED]

>>10341452
You were brought up on nuance-free 100 word reviews/glorified ads in dog shit vidya magazines. You are uninformed to what makes for a great video game. The average muttoid couldn't know. Your opinion is next to worthless.
>Nobody cares about Britjank
Somebody did.
Lara Croft on the cover of every pop culture magazine, WipEout in clubs throughout Yurop, GTA all over TV, thanks to the then-controversial nature of the game; British developers sold the original PlayStation to the western world. We revolutionised the industry. We made gaming super mainstream (you lost your virginity because of us. Well, not you, faggot; you'll die a virgin.) We made Sony the vidya juggernaut it is today, something that forced its rivals to up their game. Only the Japs have done more. Cope, Americunt. In the grand scheme of all things gaming, you are almost insignificant by comparison. No muttoid dev has, or ever will have as much a cultural impact.
Now, go make more games about trannies and square jawed women with Olympic powerlifter physiques, you degenerates; bring on that second crash (which will only affect you. AGAIN), you clueless shaven spastic chimps. Know your place, obsessed deranged bitch. KNEEL.

Rent free in your head until the day you DIE, hahahahaHAAAAAA!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:21:37 2023 No.10342164 >>10341626 tomb raider fags will defend this

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:33:14 2023 No.10342184

>>10341451
What's in Tomb Raider that isn't something obvious you would think of while trying stuff? Lock on targeting just makes sense. Even aesthetically you would think he would look at his enemy while strafing rather than look left to move left. That's just how people behave in real life. Look at boxers they are moving like they have lock on.

I'm not even sure what else you think they copied? The fact that you can push things? Or that you jump over things? Or that you climb? Or find secrets? That's like ancient game design at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:33:25 2023 No.10342185 File: 37 KB, 1170x678, IMG_0999(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341451 OOOOOO, AN WATERU U GOEEN TO DERU OHBOUT EET, FOREEN PIGU?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 04:22:38 2023 No.10342327 >>10341549 https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1697948451597589.webm

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 04:30:28 2023 No.10342342 >>10342184 >What's in Tomb Raider that isn't something obvious you would think of while trying stuff? how could you possibly know that in hindsight?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 07:26:25 2023 No.10342598 >>10341626 >saturn version >complaining about an optional collectible

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:15:49 2023 No.10342736
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>>10341451
Game developers copy other game developers all the time, Horii stated that he used to be a huge RPG fan and wanted to do one for the Famicom so he made Dragon Quest, Tekken was made because of Virtua Fighter success, many Japanese developers wanted to do open world games due to Skyrim, etc.
The problem with Nintendo is that they don't admit to play other companies videogames because they don't want the "we are special" image to fade, the story about Miyamoto playing in the woods as a kid that lead to the creation of Zelda was BS specially after we know that the original Zelda wasn't going to have a outside world and was going to be only dungeons just like Tower of Druaga which happens to be a fucking land mark for Japanese gaming, even now days they fell for the open world craze.
There's nothing wrong with getting ideas from playing other games as long as you don't straight up copy and pretend you made x thing, something that Nintendo doesn't understand and still create BS stories like "muh ninjas cutting their foreskin in circles", "muh childhood stomping turtles in the forest", "muh gardening"(you just straight up copied lemmings my nigga).
Love Nintendo as much as the next person but come the fuck on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:19:17 2023 No.10342745 >>10341591 Yeah... lots of women were playing piss hard games back then because 'they have puzzle elements'

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:32:37 2023 No.10342763 >>10341452 Except for tendies. They talk about British Rare games all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:41:52 2023 No.10342778 >>10341451 Why is oot still so obsessed over? It's always been fucking average at best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:46:09 2023 No.10342786 >>10342778 People who consider it the best experience it differently to how you do and can't get that experience from anything else.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 22:56:48 2023 No.10344371 [DELETED]

>>10341452
Jannies deleted my response to this because Americans are faggots who talk shit but can't take it. Seems on this faggot board that the free speech you love and hark on about so much only applies to the Americunt, and criticism of you is a bannable offence (I started a 'flame war', apparently. ME). Wouldn't be the first time it's happened. Won't be the last. Told the jannies that I'd maim one of you soft little fucks if they showed bias again. They did, so I did what I said I would do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:06:28 2023 No.10344402 >>10344371 Based. We need to start tracking these fuckers down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:23:37 2023 No.10344451 >>10344402 And if they ban me again I'll up the ante. Impartiality. Or else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:50:34 2023 No.10344508 >>10344371 You wouldn’t bust a grape in a vineyard. Touch some grass, Ackmhed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:01:59 2023 No.10344534 >>10344508 Seems this little shit can't read. It's already happened. Keep flapping your gums. Keep running to the moderators. Justify my actions.

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:04:44 2023 No.10344545

>>10342736
Not true, every Nintendo only hires people who have never played a game at all, ever, in their entire lives. That way, their untouched, virgin minds can create a truly original and avant-garde experience ever before seen by man. Nothing can compare to Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:33:42 2023 No.10344603 >>10342778 Ok Final Fantasy 7 Shill you are mad that Ocarina of Time is better

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:36:28 2023 No.10344610 >>10341451 It's also 100000x better to control and play than Tomb Raider

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