>early 2000 game

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Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:44:08 2023 No.10340768 [Reply] [Original]

>early 2000 game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:46:18 2023 No.10340771 the last good tekken

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:51:41 2023 No.10340784 First gen PS2 graphics > later gen PS2 graphics

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:55:11 2023 No.10340796 >DoA autist >Tekken autist >that scrub autist who goes into every fighting game thread whining about how vs mode ruined the genre and you're supposed to just play the CPU why does this board attract such weirdos when it comes to fighting games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:56:21 2023 No.10340801 >>10340796 virtua fighter sucks balls

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:58:38 2023 No.10340809 >>10340801 oh yeah I forgot the VF autist who pretends anyone outside of Japan ever gave a shit about the series

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:59:04 2023 No.10340812 >>10340796 Also, >ki maya spammer >mk scorpion spammer >snk terry spammer

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:04:18 2023 No.10340827
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>early 2000 music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf3kDN-nQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2_CQGENXxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m8t6SO07f8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNCKxSlTXek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0dD9GQQug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSa3H_5B2DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HTyd2zUGas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IUnALQPOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC-w-5hoLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL1iKHCQk0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFM3t3t_kZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzihTHPDzWg

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:06:26 2023 No.10340832 >>10340796 This board needs more people who are weirdly into fighting games that noone else has ever heard of. There's gotta be at least one guy out there who has dedicated hundreds of hours into mastering Heaven's Gate or some other similar shit

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:10:49 2023 No.10340847

>>10340832
I have.

The problem is you don't want to ever actually talk about shit, the Internet is so co-opted, hawked and astroturfed that you basically only want to be in the background and talk intimately about things only you know about with friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:11:10 2023 No.10340848 >>10340812 Darkstalkers Morrigan spammer too

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:11:21 2023 No.10340849 File: 816 KB, 950x720, kakuto-chojin-03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10340832 >Heaven's Gate heh, might as well ask for someone who mastered Kakuto Chojin

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:34:54 2023 No.10340914

>>10340832
I literally made Fighter's Destiny, Ehrgeiz, Garouden Breakblow, Tobal, SF EX, Critical Blow, Thrill Kill, Destrega, Hiryuu no Ken, Galaxy Fight and fucking SNES Cho Aniki and Fightin Spirit threads here because I enjoy all kinds of fighting games. Even 8-bit bootlegs like MK2 on famiclones. Got barely any replies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:37:45 2023 No.10340919 >>10340849 I don't have xbox, is it emulated yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:55:44 2023 No.10340958 >>10340796 Funny enough /v/ can have decent fighting game threads when they're not sperging about politics or idiots on twitter. Too bad I'm not really a fan of ArcSys games which are the ones /v/ like to talk the most.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:11:31 2023 No.10340985 >>10340796 This was amazing >>/vr/thread/10268074#p10271623

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:12:56 2023 No.10340987 >>10340796 This was amazing >>/vr/thread/10268074

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:18:18 2023 No.10341001 Good and clean art direction with simple designs. Nowadays Tekken is a complete clusterfuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:18:33 2023 No.10341003 >>10340809 VF2 drew lines at my local arcade in BFE. You're delusional if you think nobody but the Japanese liked the series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:55:11 2023 No.10341097 >>10341003 Is that why no one, not even the Japanese, care about VF anymore?

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:58:34 2023 No.10341109
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>>10340832
I liked Heaven's Gate well enough to beat it with every character. The 30fps lock really was the biggest problem for me. The game itself is fine.
Of course the chances of a re-release and patch to 60fps are pretty much nonexistent, but I would jump on that, if they ever did it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:01:35 2023 No.10341115 >>10341097 This is retro gaming. Modern gamers don't care about fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:03:28 2023 No.10341120 >>10341115 Would it help you to know they stopped caring about VF right as the arcade scene was dying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:08:26 2023 No.10341130 >>10341109 Did you play the sequels? They both are 60 fps.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:12:13 2023 No.10341141

>>10341120
Yu Suzuki was pretty much in retirement after VF4 came out. I'm not even sure he was the head developer for VF5. The DOA series lost Tomonobu Itagaki and went to shit. Tekken is the only one kicking around and nobody but old school gamers care about 8. Kids think Super Smash Brothers is fighting. The genre is dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:12:54 2023 No.10341142 >>10340812 >snk terry spammer I only know the "FF action movie" guy, who is this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:15:54 2023 No.10341154 >>10340832 I like Asura Buster, YYH Final, DBZ Hyper Dimension, the Mecha Power Rangers game on the SNES and Gundam Wing endless duel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:16:22 2023 No.10341157 File: 2.93 MB, 640x480, SOOOOOOOOOUL calibur.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >late 1990s game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:20:02 2023 No.10341170 >>10341141 >nobody but old school gamers care about 8 What about the influx of zoomers making gay headcanons about the characters?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:27:23 2023 No.10341184 File: 845 KB, 992x768, Screenshot_2023-10-21_13-21-55.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341170 They're a minority of a minority >mid 90's game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:30:07 2023 No.10341191 File: 2.84 MB, 650x486, 1661129376695.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341184

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:30:33 2023 No.10341194 >>10341170 What headcanons?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:32:29 2023 No.10341201 >>10341191 >Dreamcast port This makes me question why Fightcade added the port before the original model 3 game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:33:57 2023 No.10341205 >>10341130 I never heard about any sequels. I mean, the game doesn't even have a japanese wikipedia page. You wouldn't be messing with me, would you, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:33:57 2023 No.10341206 >>10341201 More features? RGG were smart to go with the Arcade version when they included VF3 in their new game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:35:26 2023 No.10341209 >>10341194 They're zoomers, what headcanons do you think they'll have aside from making the popular characters gay trannies?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:36:57 2023 No.10341214 >>10341206 >More features? Really? I've heard that it was a shitty port though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:38:19 2023 No.10341218 >>10341206 Perhaps there was a bigger demand for dreamcast games so they ended up adding the port in while they were at it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:40:14 2023 No.10341226 >>10341205 He probably means Genei Tougi: Shadow Struggle and Critical Blow. Not direct sequels story wise but are related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:41:26 2023 No.10341227 File: 1.36 MB, 240x200, 1691352402978.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341191 >ps1 game from 1997

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:42:07 2023 No.10341229 >>10341214 The pink disc is the better one, but I don't know how much of an improvement it was over the original release

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:47:34 2023 No.10341250 >>10341227 Tobal 2 is insane for the hardware. Look at the face detail https://www.fightersgeneration.com/news2023/char3/gren-tobal-ps1-win-animated-gif.gif (over 4chan gif size limit)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:48:18 2023 No.10341253 File: 1.32 MB, 320x240, Battle Arena Toshinden 4 (Europe)-231021-204149-[00.01.896-00.16.605].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >right around 2000 game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:48:38 2023 No.10341254 >>10341226 Never knew those were supposed to be sequels. The fighting systems and characters seem quite different. Might check those out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:49:47 2023 No.10341260 >>10341250 Kek, this btfos the Mario 64 face

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:56:05 2023 No.10341274 >>10341214 My theory is Dreamcast hardware was too easy for Yu Suzuki to work with so he had a 3rd party do it while splicing two Naomi's together for VF4 arcade.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:06:54 2023 No.10341301

>>10341097
No one cares about VF because it's not a good game. It was popular in Japan because Japan is overwhelmingly awful at playing games, and loves simple to play games so a two button fighter with full 3D was perfect for them. DoA had better graphics, Tekken had a better fighting design, and most of the really good players stuck to 2D regardless.
VF was like guitar hero here, a fad that everyone loved, got bored of, and then was completely forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:16:37 2023 No.10341317 >>10341097 >>10341301 >>10340809 >>10340801 I like them, sure they aren't exactly up to the competition but of all fighting games I've ever played, VF feels really robust >>10340919 it's says it is

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:23:00 2023 No.10341336

>>10341301
>DoA had better graphics
Which one?
VF3 (1996) has better graphics than DoA (1996)
VF4 (2001) has better graphics than DoA3 (2001)
VF5 (2006) has better graphics than DoA4 (2005)
>Tekken had a better fighting design
They focus on different things entirely. What exactly are you comparing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:23:43 2023 No.10341338 File: 10 KB, 324x300, 1235342011198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10341191 >Virtua Fighter, Great Game

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:28:10 2023 No.10341343 >>10341250 >>10341227 >Tobal 2 is from 97 Fuck, i always tought it was from 98 or 99

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:29:33 2023 No.10341348 >>10341336 IIRC, Virtua Fighter 4 character models had twice as many polygons are Dead or Alive 3 characters. Arcade version of course, not shitty home port. DoA3 was a great looking console game though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:58:08 2023 No.10341423 >>10341301 So you never played VF then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:01:19 2023 No.10341430 >>10341338 Decent game with a few crappy home ports (at least I think Vanilla 4 had a crappy port)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:07:15 2023 No.10341439 >>10341336 VF is bland and sterile Sure, VF3 came before but DoA2 did everything better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AWd8zc572M&ab_channel=RIVERSIDER87

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:07:23 2023 No.10341442 >>10341430 Aside from the lack of edge blurring, what made it worse than Evo? VF2 Saturn port was really good too considering the hardware limitations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:08:29 2023 No.10341446 >>10341439 VF3 by comparison, it did not save my embeed URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxpnLDbrIlc&ab_channel=mukankakuna

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:14:14 2023 No.10341461 >>10341439 >4:10 >same torso twist as Tekken!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:17:01 2023 No.10341468 >>10341442 2 was amazing in spite of its limitations. 4, I keep thinking, had some glitches. I just don't remember what since it's been a while. (aside from maybe not being able to rotate the camera in the customization menu). It was ok otherwise

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:18:01 2023 No.10341470 >>10341227 >>10341343 I'd always thought Tobal 1 and 2 were a little older

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 04:41:35 2023 No.10342351

>>10341439
>>10341446
VF3 is two months older than DoA1, why do you compare it to a much newer DoA2? It is a lot more competitive than both though. In VF3 you have to use the whole rock-paper-scissor system because button mashing is useless and is punished hard and you have a lot of viable movement options. DoA2 just boils down to scrubby counters spamming all the time.
VF3 high level play: https://www.youtube.com/live/ygkLOvKlESU

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:11:00 2023 No.10342394 File: 2.93 MB, 960x716, 1668007028759.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >button mashing is useless

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:12:03 2023 No.10342396 File: 2.90 MB, 1280x720, 1681313670086.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He really said button mashing is useless

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:15:32 2023 No.10342404 >>10342394 >>10342396 This is not what mashing is you dumb fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:18:27 2023 No.10342408 File: 2.98 MB, 852x480, THE CHESS OF 3D FIGHTING GAMES.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10342404 You're literally mashing buttons to recover from a stun. But if that's not "button mashing", then maybe this would be more apt.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:18:50 2023 No.10342410

Reminder that the VF autist had no idea what a korean backdash was, had no idea a failed hold in DOA led to an automatic counterhit which is why they're barely used and the actual reason DOA sucks is because everyone just fishes for launchers, and he has absolutely no idea how to play any fighting game at an even casually competitive level because he's a 40 year old manchild who is still fighting console wars for Sega

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:27:32 2023 No.10342429

>>10342410
Not long ago I browsed message boards about the VF vs. Tekken thing and it is overwhelmingly the popular opinion that Virtua Fighter is the elite game, and Tekken is the casuals game.

I also was lead to an interview with the Tekken creator who said Tekken was specifically made to be a "button masher for casuals that was cheaper to play". And for the record, I don't play 3D fighters because they all suck.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:33:03 2023 No.10342446

>>10342408
>You're literally mashing buttons to recover from a stun.
>mashing buttons to <insert specific move>
That's not what button mashing is. In that case Street Fighter would be known for button mashing too.
Button masshing is when you press random buttons without knowing what you are doing and if you get good moves this way AND your opponent can't punish you for this then the game encourages mashing. I.e. low level Tekken 3 Eddy scrub playing against other scrubs and winning. At a higher level players know how to counter Eddy so the game stops being button mashy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:37:23 2023 No.10342462 >>10342429 Tekken has like 150 moves per character. Of course there is a higher chance that you can get some cool moves just by mashing. But Tekken also gives tools to punish mashing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:49:26 2023 No.10342478 >>10342410 >failed hold in DOA >failed hold >in DOA How do even do it? Whiffing holds angainst your opponent standing still and eating throws after? Absolutely scrub behaviour.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:58:23 2023 No.10342491

>>10342429
I will chime in on this.

VF is a really clever game that has a lot of refinements that Tekken doesn't have. VF really aims to sell itself as a kind of a "Kung-Fu movie simulator", and really, despite its rep its actually a much more intuitive and "pick-up 'n play" kind of game compared to Tekken (Akira's moves and overall style are the exception), its animations are made in such a way that you can generally tell that something is going to hit low even if you've never seen that move before, and way more stuff seems to "just work" the way you'd expect (sidesteps will dodge individual attacks whenever they are linear so long as you do them after attack startup etc.), and especially so given the far better tutorials and 1P AI that actually teach you how to play it.

But ironically, Tekken despite largely being much clunkier and less refined, is ultimately the better competitive game, though seemingly almost completely on accident. It basically boils down to:

- More defense. Tekken, despite teaching you nothing of this naturally (you could play against AI and local friend groups for years having no clue until you found out about this via the net), allows you to cancel tons of shit into block. So you can shuffle around doing vaguely random movements to ward off your opponent and block most things at the last second. This really matters as a decent player can basically shut down their opponent mostly through being better at defense, making sure they aren't in a position to pull off unreactable lows, making reactable lows too risky, always being ready to break/ducking throws.

VF is really clever about a thousand things, but the way Tekken focused on a style of gameplay where being careful allows you to avoid being hit more consistently, even if it's unintuitive and janky in every other way makes it the 'gooder' game, even if this won't make sense until you have tons of experience fighting good players. It's unsurprising that VF attracted a cult fanbase though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 06:03:02 2023 No.10342498 File: 3.99 MB, 1280x720, people play this competitively for money.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10342446 >"vf is masher proof" >shows mashing >"n-no that's not how mashing works"

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 06:45:43 2023 No.10342554 >>10342498 >competitive >clip is from arcade mode What

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 06:51:38 2023 No.10342560 >>10342554 He's dumb. Showing vs cpu and training clips as a proof of button mashing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 06:57:22 2023 No.10342570 File: 2.38 MB, 1920x1080, 1665871709623.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10342554 >>10342560

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 07:47:39 2023 No.10342621 >>10342560 That... hahaha... was an Evo moment

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:23:20 2023 No.10342667 I have no idea why VF drives some Tekken guys insane. >how do you it's a tekken guy Because I browse the Tekken general on /vg/ since VF is dead and he spams the same stuff there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:25:50 2023 No.10342670 >>10342570 Shit, I need VF6 now. Wtf is Sega smoking abandoning the series like that? VF5US is an update of a 2006 game ffs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:27:23 2023 No.10342673 >>10342670 Never gonna happen

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:44:54 2023 No.10342691 >>10342667 Must be that one specific scrub. I mostly play Tekken competitively and I admit that VF does some things better fundamentally. I just don't enjoy its characters selection.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:15:41 2023 No.10342735 File: 337 KB, 931x983, vanessa comp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10342394 delicious vanessa

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:19:24 2023 No.10342746 >>10342735 Sarah but with a tan. My favorite!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:43:30 2023 No.10342781 >>10342746 And mucles, thic thighs and firm nice ass

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:53:11 2023 No.10342793 >>10342746 What Sarah moves does she have?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 10:41:41 2023 No.10342859 File: 2.79 MB, 476x480, 1689610528941983.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10340801 Tekken is a shitty Virtua Fighter clone for the low IQ market. Thats you.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 10:48:58 2023 No.10342873

>>10342859
>shitty Virtua Fighter clone for the low IQ market.
That's DoA. Tekken plays nothing like VF and both are competitively solid. Tekken fans hating on VF and VF fans hating on Tekken is DoA faggot propaganda and false flagging which you should ignore because he doesn't play the games anyway and only jerks off to Hitomi fanart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:59:33 2023 No.10343403 >>10342873 No, that would be VF itself

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:00:34 2023 No.10343407 >>10342793 She's a palette swap. Look at her face and look at Sarah

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:13:45 2023 No.10343432 File: 1.20 MB, 1280x720, cVpjyZbPW7CKN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10343407 ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:03:37 2023 No.10343527 >>10342781 So a man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:22:59 2023 No.10343568 >>10343432 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:27:13 2023 No.10343736 >>10340796 You forgot another of one of the big ones, the autist who always complains about how people don't play the later ports of Alpha 3.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 20:41:54 2023 No.10344052 File: 829 KB, 273x320, 1697603337768473.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10343403 >searching the proper OOOOOH meme video to post >The algorythm instead shows the wrong part but the right audio, and lots of chunbox shit. What the hell?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 20:49:25 2023 No.10344072 File: 13 KB, 236x275, 5bcdf194a60b7ded72daba27c21dd400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10342735 Who's the t. roonoid here? looks really igly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 21:37:05 2023 No.10344154 >>10344072 Majority of troons are weakling lanklets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 08:36:38 2023 No.10345553 >>10343527 muscles and abs are universal

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