/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10340526]

Why do Segafags pretend this system does not exist? Enough with your sega shitturn and Memecast, show some Master System master pieces

[Anonymous No.10340534]

>>10340526
Probably because it's 8-bit in general

[Anonymous No.10340536]

More like Master Shitstain, eh? eh? gottem

[Anonymous No.10340556]

>>10340526
Most segafags didn't became segafags until the MD/genesis so they don't know it exists.

[Anonymous No.10340561]

>>10340526
I only know the first Phantasy Star and the master system of Ninja Gaiden

[Anonymous No.10340570]

Alex Kid, Kenseiden and Phantasy Star are the only games I can think of that weren't arcade ports.

[Anonymous No.10340574]

>>10340561
>>10340570
Phantasy Star Adventure, kek

[Anonymous No.10340580]

My favorite game for the system is Gangster Town. Two player light gun game.

[Anonymous No.10340592]

>>10340526
Master System is just a prettier yet blander NES, it's not really interesting

[Anonymous No.10340597]

There are just bot that many good games on the system. This one is pretty much the only one I ever play.

[Anonymous No.10340602]

Segafags dont like the shiturn, just weebfaggots and MS was only known in yurop. It was better than nes btw but of course you are not allowed have this opinion on the internet

[Anonymous No.10340606]

>>10340602
>It was better than nes btw but of course you are not allowed have this opinion on the internet
You can have that opinion, it's just even retards know that it's not true.

[Anonymous No.10340608]

>>10340606
>it's just even retards know that it's not true.
Tell that to the regions that Master System outsold NES.

[Anonymous No.10340636]

>>10340608
Name 10 master system games that are actually worth playing

[Anonymous No.10340676]

Kinda forgot this thing existed until I wanted to play Phantasy Star 1 and not finding it in the Genesis section on my rom site.

Didnt know the first Sonic games were on it too.
Really weird.

[Anonymous No.10340687]

>>10340676
And those sonic games aren't ports of the genesis, they are console versions of the Gamegear sonic games

[Anonymous No.10340693]

>>10340676
>Didnt know the first Sonic games were on it too.
They're not the first sonic games.
>>10340687
They're master system games not game gear.

[Anonymous No.10340701]

>>10340526
because this thing was not part of the video game zeitgeist at all. the only piece of sega hardware that was ever relevant was the genesis.

[Anonymous No.10340705]

>>10340701
>because this thing was not part of the video game zeitgeist at all.
So much confidence yet you have no clue at all.

[Anonymous No.10340718]

>>10340693
>They're not the first sonic games.
I see my bad.

[Anonymous No.10340741]

>>10340718
Genesis Sonic was first. Master system had a lot of butchered ports so we were lucky to get a totally new game with master system Sonic.

[Anonymous No.10340748]

>>10340534
But 8-bit games are awesome? They're the best retro games. Anyway OP the master system Bubble Bobble is better than the NES one, Kenseiden and Power Strike are excellent and Shinobi is more fun on SMS than the arcade.

[Anonymous No.10340751]

>>10340526
True Segafags will only care about the Genesis and Dreamcast because those are the only consoles anyone knew existed.

[Anonymous No.10340760]

>>10340705
it did have a clue though

[Anonymous No.10340762]

>>10340751
It's true. I like sega and I've had gay sex with many men and I've only ever heard of Genesis and Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.10340787]

>>10340526
because it sucks balls and there's nothing good on it except those disney platformers and a couple aleste games

>but wonder boy iii!!
valid, yet it plays better on pc engine because it doesn't run like a choppy mess

[Anonymous No.10340905]

>>10340636
Sonic and Disney titles make for 10 classics that are still worth playing by themselves, and that's not even mentioning all of the other classic SEGA IP's that had a release on Master System.

[Anonymous No.10340909]

>>10340574
PSA and PSG were game gear exclusives

[Anonymous No.10340912]

>>10340693
they were only sold on gamegear in japan, the GG versions are also more complete.

[Anonymous No.10340923]

>>10340912
They were released first on master system.

[Anonymous No.10340943]

>>10340905
Most of those games are mediocre at best. Out of the Sonic games only the first one is good and the rest were shit on that console.
Alex Kidd sucks btw.

[Anonymous No.10340965]

>>10340905
You shouldn't reply to that poster.

[Anonymous No.10341007]

>>10340602
Real segafags like every console they made.

[Anonymous No.10341018]

>>10340526
>show some Master System master pieces
There are none

[Anonymous No.10341034]

I like the master system

[Anonymous No.10341043]

>>10340636
Ninja Gaiden
Shinobi
Phantasy Zone
Phantasy Star
Zillion 1 & 2
Sonic 1, 2 and Chaos
Golden Axe
Cyborg Hunter
Alladin
Castle of Illusion
Alex kidd in mirracle world & Shinobi world
Alien 3
Argos no Juujken
Asterix 1, the great rescue & the secret mission
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Master of Darkness
Masters of Combat
Danan
Deep Duck trouble
Dragon Crystal
Dynamite Heady
Fantastic Dizzy

[Anonymous No.10341051]

>>10341043
Meant to say golden axe warrior there.

[Anonymous No.10341062]

>He doesn't like Kenseiden
NGMI

[Anonymous No.10341558]

>Pause on the console
But why?

[Anonymous No.10341642]

>>10340526
I think most SEGAfags grew up with Genesis and not Master System, especially in the US, the few places Master System is still mostly remembered are Europe and South America, in North America and Asia it didn't even come close to Nintendo's dominance. In the US especially, Genesis was the big one, Dreamcast felt like a revival due to the amazing launch it had, and Saturn was the hyped console due to the Genesis' success, but that in the end didn't live up to it besides Japan, Master System's always in the background, but it's really deserving of more attention than it gets here...

Aladdin
Alex Kidd in High-Teck World
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World
Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars
Alien Storm
Alien Syndrome
Altered Beast
Asterix
Asterix and The Great Rescue
Asterix and The Secret Mission
Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP 2
Aztec Adventure
Batman Returns
Bonanza Bros.
Bubble Bobble
Castle of Illusion
Deep Duck Trouble
Dynamite Headdy
Golden Axe Warrior
Land of Illusion
Legend of Illusion
Lion King
Lucky Dime Caper
Master of Darkness
My Hero
New Zealand Story
Ninja Gaiden
Phantasy Star
Shinobi
Rastan
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic & Tails
Sonic & Tails 2
Spider-Man vs. The Kingpin
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Wonder Boy
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Wonder Boy 3: The Dragon's Trap

So much good stuff... it's a library I play often, it feels quite similar to the Game Gear one, which I also love, but often with a screen resolution that allowed me to see more, and that was quite an awesome thing for me, often the definitive version is the Master System one, for me at least.

I absolutely adore this thing.

[Anonymous No.10341658]

>>10340561
Ninja Gaiden is a fantastic game that also happens to be exclusive for the Master System. It's also easier than the NES entries, so it's a good starting point.

[Anonymous No.10341676]

>>10340526
Sega cope is worse than nintendrone oot-Sid drinkers

[Anonymous No.10341679]

>>10340608
The opinions of feral sudaca favela monkeys can be safely disregarded

[Anonymous No.10341712]

>>10341642
It was popular in Australia
The PAL console had a built-in Alex Kidd game which I liked, I also liked Lemmings which I think has a great soundtrack, and my favourite game was Asterix.
My sister liked Sonic but I didn't

[Anonymous No.10341721]

>>10341679
Sudacas aren't the ones making this board shit.

[Anonymous No.10341732]

>>10341043
kenseiden

[Anonymous No.10341739]

>>10341721
Correct. That would be the Australians

[Anonymous No.10341804]

Do I have to be the bearer of bad news?

[Anonymous No.10342112]

bump

[Anonymous No.10342474]

>>10340526

[Anonymous No.10342547]

>>10341804
That is an excelent example of quality over quantity

[Anonymous No.10342552]

>>10341804
>>10342547
So N64 > DC > Saturn?
Makes sense

[Anonymous No.10342603]

When I look at those recommended games in this thread, alot of them are also for the MegaDrive.
Are there any games that are better the Master System than on the MegaDrive?

[Anonymous No.10342612]

Master System shmups are bangers

Fantasy Zone 1/2
POWER STRIKE 1/2
R-Type with exclusive level
SAGAIA
Cloud Master

All of the Sonic and Disney games are breaths of fresh air for newcomers who wants to slap a power base converter on their Genesis

[Anonymous No.10342616]

>>10342603
Depending on game, they could either be a badly mirrored port or a completely unique experience

[Anonymous No.10342618]

>>10342603
Exactly none. Genesis ports are universally better and are at a higher resolution

[Anonymous No.10342627]

>>10342618
>Exactly none
You yourself know thats not true.
>>10341558
The worst was when you would get up to pause the console and you bumped the console in the process resetting your game.

[Anonymous No.10342705]

>>10340526
Most never played with one. Simple as that. For awhile I didn't even know Sega made a console prior to Genesis.

[Anonymous No.10342712]

>>10340526
Phantasy Star was fun

[Anonymous No.10342725]

>>10340526

How did nobody say Wonder Boy 3: The Dragon's Trap yet? It's the best game on the Master System by a wide margin

[Anonymous No.10342760]

Born in 87, the Genesis was my first console in 92.

Despite reading gaming magazines religiouly growing up, I didn't even know the Master System existed until some time after the Dreamcast was released. It really just had absolutely nothing going for it. Nobody talked about it.

[Anonymous No.10342790]

>>10342725
>It's the best game on the Master System by a wide margin
No.

[Anonymous No.10343058]

Would you say SMS has better rpgs than the NES?

[Anonymous No.10343074]

>>10342725
>It's the best game on the Master System by a wide margin
That's Golden Axe Warrior

[Anonymous No.10343085]

>>10340602
is there even a group of identifiable "segafags" like there is with tendies? their games are so far removed from eachother. like chances are someone who likes them for their racing games isnt going to like them for sonic and someone who likes sonic probably isnt going to like edating on NGS.

[Anonymous No.10343129]

>>10343085
not really. theres Saturnfags and Dreamcastfags and Genesisfags, but these groups don't overlap nearly as much as nintendo fans do. other than sonic, not many sega series' span over every console. they each mostly have a separate appeal.

[Anonymous No.10343139]

>>10342760
yeah i was born in 85 and the only memory i have of the SMS is my friend randomly getting one in the early or mid 90s. yard sale or something i guess. i dont even remember what games he had for it. all i remember is the system itself and the cartridges having that checkerboard pattern.>>10343085
>is there even a group of identifiable "segafags" like there is with tendies?
not quite in the same vein. i feel like there are way more people who are obsessed with nintendo as a whole. segafags seem a bit more grounded in that they typically dont blindly worship sega's shittier products

[Anonymous No.10343148]

>>10340526
>Why
Because master system was shit. The sprite flickering was a huge turn off. And there are only 3 or 4 good games on there. Also why the fugg are you making those threads? You're an cringy amiga faggot. Stop posing. K thx?

[Anonymous No.10343150]

>>10343148
>The sprite flickering was a huge turn off
The NES also had this.
>fugg
Go back.

[Anonymous No.10343158]

>>10340597
This is the most blatant Castlevania ripoff I’ve ever played but it’s really good.

[Anonymous No.10343193]

>>10343085
>>10343129
>>10343139
This is a big problem with Sega, they are quick to drop any IPs they viewed as unsuccessful or if they want to move on from their previous mascot.
Imagine if Sega kept making Alex kidd, Zillion, Wonderboy, Shinobi and Fantasy Zone games all the way to the dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.10343201]

>>10343193
This is a big problem with Nintendo fans. They fail to see how unnecessary it is to drag along an IP into genres it doesn't belong. Nobody needed Mario to be transformed into a pinball, but a fear of risk forces them into endless regurgitation of IP instead of exploring new ones. Sega thankfully hadn't had this problem.

[Anonymous No.10343206]

>>10343201
How is this a problem when Mario has essentially no story to speak of?

[Anonymous No.10343214]

>>10343193
nobody cares about alex kidd for a reason

[Anonymous No.10343216]

>>10343214
Then why do people make hacks, fangames and fanart of it?

[Anonymous No.10343240]

>>10343206
Why not do something new?

[Anonymous No.10343253]

I like the MS, it's a better system than the NES, just fewer games, but most shit on NES are shovelware

[Anonymous No.10343263]

>>10343240
But they do something new alongside old stuff.

[Anonymous No.10343282]

>>10342725
This. I love that game.

[Anonymous No.10343286]

>>10343240
Having too many IP that may or may not be in the genre is not commercially good since it leads to IP cannibalization.

[Anonymous No.10343313]

>>10343286
So you should do less new and interesting things the more successful you are? I think that's a bad lesson to take from success.

[Anonymous No.10343396]

>>10343313
SNK had like gorillion fighting games and 3 shooter IPs and look where that got them.
They only decided to revisit their untouched IPs NOW because they finally got the funds + fan demand, and you can bet your ass they are gonna fuse a bunch of them together in other to reduce the chance of cannibalization.

[Anonymous No.10343436]

>>10343396
does SEGA have IP cannibalization though?

[Anonymous No.10343495]

>>10343436
Shinning series-Phantasy Star, Altered Beast-Golden Axe-Streets of Rage and Virtua Fighter-Fighting Vipers-eternal champions all cannibalized eachother until none of the got any games prior to Streets of Rage 4.
One could argue that Miku cannibalized Samba de Amigo and Space channel.

[Anonymous No.10343505]

>>10343201
The irony of you saying this with all the dogshit Sonic spinoffs out there. There is over 200 sonic games

[Anonymous No.10343520]

>>10343505
yeah but they didnt make sonic shenmue or sonic phantasy star

[Anonymous No.10343535]

>>10343520
They have made Sonic kart, Sonic final fantasy and Sonic final fight.
How does Nintendo do worse here?

[Anonymous No.10343537]

>>10343535
cause their games arent fun or interesting

[Anonymous No.10343573]

>>10343537
Neither were the games i mentioned.

[Anonymous No.10343576]

>>10343573
proof?

[Anonymous No.10344441]

>>10340608
The literal plebeians? Who cares about them?

[Anonymous No.10344685]

>>10343576
You want me to prove that Sonic chronicles is bad?

[Anonymous No.10344702]

>>10343537
>game has gay blue furry
>game good
>me likey
Compelling argument

[Anonymous No.10346151]

>>10340526
>for me it's TecToy's blue Master System Evolution from Brazil with Sonic in it

[Anonymous No.10346174]

>>10346151
What do the other 4 buttons do?

[Anonymous No.10346193]

>>10346174
No idea, I imagine there must be a couple of turbo buttons there, but then that still leaves a couple of buttons that are likely just repeats.

[Anonymous No.10347002]

>>10346151
I prefer TecToy's white/gray Master System...it's so cool how Brazil got so many more Mega Drive and Master System color varients and all, even a few completely new models, like the one on pic related, I especially love their gray Mega Drive...

[Anonymous No.10347893]

>>10343495
>One could argue that Miku cannibalized Samba de Amigo and Space channel.
Vocaloid is not own by SEGA
are you gonna say she's a Pokemon Trainer too?

[Anonymous No.10347897]

>>10340526
It wasn't a part of the great console wars that cultists took part in

[Anonymous No.10347941]

>>10341804
Too bad 75% of the Saturn library is JP exclusive kusoge

[Anonymous No.10348190]

>>10344702
yes

[Anonymous No.10348206]

>>10342603
The SMS port of Ecco is pretty damn good and I prefer Phantasy Star 1 to 2 and one of the Sonic games on SMS over 3, but can't think of any that were essentially the same game but better on Master system

[Anonymous No.10348209]

>>10342725
The PCE version was better

[Anonymous No.10348228]

>>10342603
Ariel: The Little Mermaid has less sea people to rescue on Master System, which makes levels feel like less of a chore that takes forever, it's a lot more fun with it being more condensed.

[Anonymous No.10348246]

>>10343058
Absolutely not.

[Anonymous No.10348258]

>>10343139
The video store I went to to rent games as a kid had probably the whole library of SMS games but they just collected dust. I'm 40 and American, and I've never seen one IRL.

[Anonymous No.10348304]

>>10343193
They never should have killed the original Phantasy Star series. IIRC, a copy of PSIV was really expensive, more than $100 with tax at time of release (~$195 in 2023 money according to leddit). I rented it a bunch when it came out and eventually scored a copy at GameStop for $10 about 20 years ago. It's probably my favorite game ever... And no one I know has played it... Anyway, how the hell was the game ever going to sell [in the West] with a price like that?

[Anonymous No.10348326]

>>10340608
No one cares about Br*zil. Also, 7-1. :)

[Anonymous No.10348463]

>>10348326
people tend to care about the UK. other regions in europe too. though, i don't think many people care about Australia.
where i live, most people of a certain age group know Alex Kidd, even if they don't really know of or play many games.

[Anonymous No.10348493]

>>10348326

[Anonymous No.10348520]

Other than the usuals, my favourites were pic related and Psycho Fox, although Psycho Fox has some of the worst platformer 'physics' I have ever played. Looks great, though, and was fun when I was a kid that didn't know any better.

[Anonymous No.10348525]

>>10348520
A lot of master system platformers felt slippery but everything else was great so you looked past it.

[Anonymous No.10348527]

>>10340602
>but of course you are not allowed have this opinion on the internet
professional victim fag

[Anonymous No.10349016]

>>10347941
Kusoge doesn't mean "games that filter me with a bit of moon"

[Anonymous No.10350026]

>>10346151
>>10347002
TecToy is SOVL
Brazil is a shithole but in this regard they're lucky

[Anonymous No.10350029]

>>10346151
its unironically a nice deisgn

[Anonymous No.10350037]

>>10343085
Sega Lord X is basically your modern segafag prototype

[Anonymous No.10350197]

>>10350037
Sega fans are well adjusted individuals. If someone criticises Nights you don't see the seething you would see in oot and Mario 64 threads.

[Anonymous No.10350335]

>>10350197
>Sega fans are well adjusted individuals
lol. nintendofags are for the most part just normies. even my sister loves nintendo. meanwhile every segafag is some furry or other freak

[Anonymous No.10350383]

>>10340526
Fuck, for a second there I thought the autistic Sega System troll was back

[Anonymous No.10350431]

>>10350335
>all Segafags are furries, dementia sufferes, or schizos
How would you know. Sega isn't just Sonic, Its also NiGHTS, Alex Kidd, Fantasy Zone, Afterburner, and Phantasy Star.

[Anonymous No.10350474]

>>10340526
SMS system slaps
i liked enough to get two of them
i have the sega mark iii & usa master system model 1

i recommend getting a cheap everdrive
SMS supports sg-1000 titles as well
there are some killer deepcuts for the system

brazil and other territories got titles the rest of the world didnt get long after the system went past its life cycle

tldr;
if you like the gamegear even a LITTLE
the sms system is godtier & has plenty to offer

[Anonymous No.10350909]

>>10350029
Agreed, probably the most sleek Master System ever, TecToy just got everything right in this one.

[Anonymous No.10350917]

>>10341043
this is a based list right here bros

>>10341642
so is this

[Anonymous No.10351156]

>>10343240
Because the original post didn't just talk about spin-offs. In >>10343193 the IP's listed didn't just fail to get "Shinobi Golf" or "Ristar Racing", they often failed to get sequels at all. Games like Ristar never got sequels, there could have been ways to experiment and evolve with them but that never happened. On the other hand, what the quote in your post talks about is something SEGA did as early as the Genesis: Sonic 3D Blast is an isometric sequel to Flicky more than it is a Sonic game, but ultimately, Flickies just became a part of the large Sonic brand and 3D Blast was full of the usual Sonic imagery.
>>10343253
There are more good games on the NES than on the Master System, both systems had shovelware.

[Anonymous No.10351215]

>>10351156
>There are more good games on the NES
Master System still has a great library and is a lot more pleasing on the eyes.

[Anonymous No.10352114]

>>10351215
>Sonic 2
I hate how this one gets such a bad reputation because of the Game Gear port and resolution since, when playing on Master System, where I can see more, this plays so well! I'd say its good just like Sonic 1 on Master System was, among my favorite Sonic installments, simple and fun.

[Anonymous No.10352235]

>>10352114
it only gets shit on because of the antlion boss

[Anonymous No.10352261]

>>10352235
I agree, it's the part that most people remember being filtered by, I myself never got past it when I was younger, playing it on the Gems Collection, which only had the Game Gear versions of all the 8-Bit installments, I can finish the Game Gear one nowadays just fine, but when you're younger it's ridiculous, and it also makes no sense how when you play the Master System version, with a much better resolution, the bombs all bounce low, so it behaves like a 1st boss should, but on Game Gear where you already have the resolution making it more difficult, the bombs bounce way higher too and it becomes 10x more difficult... it's not just in the 1st boss either, a bunch of levels become way more difficult due to the Game Gear resolution, especially Green Hills and Scrambled Egg... it's still a fantastic time for me though, but I'm at a point where I've mastered the whole thing too.

[Anonymous No.10353089]

>>10352114
>Sonic 2
My only complaint was the hang glider and you eventually figure it out after a few tries.