/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10313716]

IT'S HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.10313748]

saturn d-pads look like such aids

[Anonymous No.10313775]

>>10313716
>that stick placement
My sides may never recover

[Anonymous No.10313795]

So many Saturn threads

[Anonymous No.10313820]

>>10313795
/vr/ is the only place I've ever seen where the Console is even discussed

Considering I've never seen one irl and everyone here claims it was huge in Japan I'm honestly starting to lean towards the Saturn being an elaborate psyop

[Anonymous No.10313821]

the downgraded sticks downgraded any interest I had in this.

[Anonymous No.10313830]

>>10313716
I am vaguely interested only because of the prospect that I could maybe hook this up to a BC PS3 and play PS2 games with it.

[Anonymous No.10313831]

>>10313820
I'm friends with a few huge Segaheads I grow up with in Europe, and neither of them has seen a Saturn irl and for the longest time assumed Sega just skipped the generation between Mega Drive and Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.10313837]

>>10313820
even outside japan saturn controllers themselves developed a reputation of being godlike retro pads and now that they're more widely available in modern forms it's consequently brought more attention to the saturn itself
the fpga version is coming too so it hit a good time

[Anonymous No.10313845]

>>10313820
>/vr/ is the only place I've ever seen where the Console is even discussed

every existing Sega message board has 60 page long threads arguing about how the Saturn could have been saved. The bigger ones have several.

[Anonymous No.10313869]

>>10313716
>NO we MUST ruin the original design
>WE HAVE TOOOOO WE HAVE TOOOOO'
*autistic screeching*
chinese knockoffs will never get it right only original hardware will ever be good. there are a handful of exceptions of course, but they usually are 1:1 copies of the original design, sometimes even reusing the vintage plastic molds

[Anonymous No.10313882]

>>10313845
It's not a very interesting topic, what we got is far more fascinating

[Anonymous No.10313909]

>>10313820

[Anonymous No.10313912]

>>10313716
I think that the analog sticks in the prototype we saw were indeed too close together... but how is it that this was the only solution they could come up with? I mean, seriously, joycons? If I want to go and use a Saturn controller, or a 6-Button one for whatever purpose, I'll just use the standard one I had for Saturn anyways, and if I want to play with analog sticks, I'll just use a controller where they actually feel good, and not like an afterthough, I had high hopes for this, and it's dissappointing...

[Anonymous No.10313934]

>>10313820
It was always just "that other SEGA console" to me. Not as renowned as the Genesis and not as unique as the Dreamcast. Playing the games themselves only further confirmed that's basically what it's always been. You can try it if you like, just don't go in expecting anything as mindblowing as Genesis/SEGA CD or Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.10313938]

>>10313716
Looks kinda cramped. Proper grips are a must-have for controllers with sticks imo.

[Anonymous No.10313940]

>>10313716
it's been 87 years

[Anonymous No.10313953]

This is a huge slap in the face to anyone who was excited for this. Suck it Sega losers.

[Anonymous No.10313969]

>>10313716
Can't wait for all the epic hardcore retro gamers to finally hold a Saturn pad and realize its cramped poorly shaped dogshit made for tiny asian hands

[Anonymous No.10313973]

>>10313969
(You)

[Anonymous No.10313980]

>>10313973
An actual based controller if they would have made the white and black buttons shoulder triggers. Fortunately they fixed it with the 360 controller which is easily the best ever

[Anonymous No.10313989]

>>10313980
can't tell if you're being ironic but the duke was heavily inspired by the saturn 3d controller in the first place

[Anonymous No.10314001]

>>10313716
this looks like a horrible joke.

would it kill them to just release a xbox series x pad, but with the ABCXYZ layout? And maybe using metal conductor pads like under the d-pad so they never wear out unlike traditional membranes.

[Anonymous No.10314010]

>>10313989
The duke was inspired by the Dreamcast controller, which was inspired by the Saturn 3D pad, none of which have anything to do with the actual Saturn controller which is dogshit and isn't even used, at all, for the genre it was made for

[Anonymous No.10314031]

>>10314001
>would it kill them to just release a xbox series x pad, but with the ABCXYZ layout?
Victrix's Pro Controller, with a module system, is pretty much what you're asking for in a way, so I think you should check it out... I love what they did in this one, how they managed to make it 6 buttons, while still keeping the diamond most are familiar with, I wish Sony or Microsoft could release something like this, but with a 2nd analog stick too, don't know how it'd fit without it being a huge controller, but it'd be sick.

[Anonymous No.10314074]

>>10313934
I guess the Master System just doesn't exist then, eh?

[Anonymous No.10314427]

>>10313716
Sweet

[Anonymous No.10314434]

10313748 define

[Anonymous No.10314453]

>>10313716
those joycon sticks are so horrendous to use why would they even use them?
we wanted DualShock style sticks, not this

>>10313912
THIS is all they had to do!

[Anonymous No.10314457]

>>10313748
Best dpad, deal with it faggot

[Anonymous No.10314460]

>>10313831
It was Japan and usa

[Anonymous No.10314462]

>>10313869
The previous retrobit Bluetooth saturn controller is a flat upgrade. You don't know what you're talking about nihilistic faggot

[Anonymous No.10314465]

>>10313969
I bought the previous model and love it, faggot. Better than snes and genesis.

[Anonymous No.10314470]

>>10313980
360 controller is fucking garbage. Horrible dpad, giant tumor on the back, AA batteries, proprietary connection, and they die fast just like the 360.
Filthy causal shitskin.

[Anonymous No.10314475]

>>10314031

[Anonymous No.10314478]

Man, this would've been actually perfect if it had decent sticks. What a shame.

[Anonymous No.10314482]

>>10314031
>>10314031

[Anonymous No.10314506]

[Anonymous No.10314609]

I'm getting it. Don't care how close the sticks are to one another. Hopefully it's noticeably bigger than SS pad.
https://youtu.be/X51Patmp41E

[Anonymous No.10314630]

>>10313748
They look bad but feel the best.

[Anonymous No.10314632]

>>10314609
the sticks look like they are switch sized joysticks but at least they should be a bit better

[Anonymous No.10314642]

>>10313912
Putting joysticks on a Saturn controller is a fundamentally retarded idea, even if you put aside them being too close together using those things would be torturous. The new ones would also be dogshit to use but as far as just gluing some bullshit on so you can use all the button mappings in emulators and modern retro games it's less in the way.

[Anonymous No.10314646]

six button controllers are useless

[Anonymous No.10314649]

>>10313821
They look terrible for what I expected, I mainly want them for Daytona and Sega Rally. This crap looks like the psp nubs. Its the only one we have so at least we could modify it with a better stick, I already have the wireless 2D pad and it works great so I'd actually would rather have one for 2D and a seperate one with a really good analog stick even if it sacrifices the d pad a bit.

>>10313912
That looks way better

>>10313831
It was prominently displayed in stores for 2 years so I think they just weren't paying attention. I never heard of Atari Jaguar and Neo Geo until emulation and just barely heard of the 32X.

>>10313869
8 bit do controllers feel the same to me and the wireless saturn pad is good except the L and R buttons don't click as good but to get wireless I'll gladly accept the trade off.

[Anonymous No.10314652]

>>10314609
Well, I think it's a welcomed improvement. Hopefully they get it right on the first try

[Anonymous No.10314654]

>>10314642
It's not as retarded as putting a nub on the n3dsxl, but that works fine after getting over that it's a nub.

[Anonymous No.10314759]

>>10314646
I suppose the diamond layout is superior for the majority of what one might want to play, but its expected since most video games are made for said layout, and have been for many years, but I wouldn't call it useless, for arcade ports, mostly fighting, but also other genres, having this sort of layout is very comfortable and feels ideal, of course that includes the whole Saturn library too.

P.S. Now if only Joyzz would release a USB or a bluetooth version of their 6-Button Genesis one, with the gray/clear shell and all, that'd be great, or maybe RetroBit could do one themselves too.

[Anonymous No.10314769]

>>10314649
>>10313821
>>10313821
>>10313912
>>10313938
>>10314478
>>10314649
>>10314654
They're the same sticks that are on the retroid pocket 3+, which are great for every single genre of game except modern FPS, which nobody was ever going to play with these anyway.

So you're kind of retarded.

They're way better than the fucking nubs on psp and 3ds.

You don't need giant sticks for movement and camera in action games and platformers

[Anonymous No.10314770]

>>10314759
Just get the Bluetooth saturn controller, it's the same thing but better. Derp

[Anonymous No.10314771]

>>10313716
>no analogue triggers
dogshit controller
whats the point of shoving 2 sticks on this thing then

[Anonymous No.10314775]

>>10314771
>OH NO MARIO SUNSHINE
>LITERALLY ONLY 1 SINGLE SHITTY GAME

[Anonymous No.10314786]

>>10314609
think i'm gonna wait on reviews first, they'll probably give early ones to the usual youtubers who aren't going to be as thorough as i'd like but they should be able to tell if something is completely wrong about them. retro-bit just hasn't inspired enough confidence with me yet, 8bitdo is only minorly better too with the m30 being their saving grace

[Anonymous No.10314826]

>>10314775
>mind immediately goes to shitty nintendo games
most racing games suck ass without analogue triggers.
i like the ergonomics of the original saturn pad, and this looks like it would be my go-to if it could actually play the games like manx tt properly.

[Anonymous No.10314849]

Holy fuck why did they cheap out on the triggers. It can't replace the 3d pad now. Why would they do that

[Anonymous No.10314862]

>>10314646
there's a whole market segment for "fightpads" that even makers like razer and victrix have products in
and even if your statement was true, a lot of people like these just for the d-pad, the shoulders buttons and accessory buttons (like home) are nice additions too

[Anonymous No.10314868]

>>10314457
Genesis was better

[Anonymous No.10314878]

>>10313821
Same here. They should've stuck with the original design I'm not wasting money on joycon tier analog sticks

[Anonymous No.10314904]

>>10314862
Razer discontinued there's pretty fast and the Victrix is just a generic pro controller that threw in a 6 button as an extra to having the stick/d-pad swap gimmick. Only Hori really consistently does it.

[Anonymous No.10314910]

i heard vita d-pad is the best in the business
has anyone put that in a controller yet?
>>10314769
>>10314654

[Anonymous No.10314927]

>>10314826
Why the fuck would you need this for a Racing game you dumb fuck? Racing games are usually only 2 buttons, gas and break.

[Anonymous No.10314929]

>>10314849
See:
>>10314927

[Anonymous No.10314930]

>>10314868
Nah
>>10314862
It's also great for emulators because you can assign functions to them.
>>10314868
The only genre where bigger sticks matter, is FPS.
>>10314910
Only vita fags say that. Saturn is the king. Neo geo microswitch is a cool alternative. After that it's snes.

[Anonymous No.10314942]

>>10314910
The vita d-pad it´s great, better than any of the nintendo or other sony consoles, but I can't compare it to the one in the saturn, since I have never touched one.
The only nitpick I have is that is a bit small, but that is understandable given is for a portable.

[Anonymous No.10314948]

>>10314927
what if you only want to accelerate or brake a little? not every turn requires a hard brake. the extra control is necessary for a lot of games, especially the ones that are trying to be sims.
i guess you could play v-rally or gran tourismo with pure digital, but why the fuck would you when playing it with analog feels so much better?

[Anonymous No.10314949]

>>10313716
>push stick forward
>hit thumb against a wall
how did they come up with this garbage?

[Anonymous No.10314950]

>>10314927
Are you trolling? Why the fuck would you need analogue pedals for a real car?

[Anonymous No.10314951]

>>10314948
Again, why the fuck would you want THIS controller for racing games? There's no point since no Racing game uses many buttons. Just use the controller you already use you dumb fuck. The whole point of this thing is that it has 6 buttons. Derp

[Anonymous No.10314953]

>>10314950
This specific controller you illiterate faggot.
See:
>>10314951

[Anonymous No.10314964]

>>10314951
it doesn't have huge thighs so it would be easier to have when traveling, i like the design of the original saturn controller, and 6 buttons would be good for arcade games. if they didn't cheap out on the triggers, it would be the ultimate jack of all trades emulation controller.

[Anonymous No.10314975]

>>10314964
wouldn't emulators have a setting for half press and full press analog?
sadly, as long as Nintendo is only going to have digital triggers, companies are going to be more and more incentivized to skip on them (just as makers of Xbox controllers skimp on dpads) since the Switch so far is the most open console for 3rd parties therefore I don't see this issue being resolved soon

[Anonymous No.10314991]

>>10314074
thats the OTHER other sega system.

[Anonymous No.10315009]

>>10313716
without proper handles, sticks are crap

[Anonymous No.10315014]

>>10314964
I don't give a fuck about Racing games, i have a Racing wheel for that.

[Anonymous No.10315035]

>>10313748
Suck it.

>>10313837
Word.

>>10313973
Top Keks.

[Anonymous No.10315125]

>>10314953
>>10314951
If the controller is comfortable, then why not? Furthermore, it has 8 buttons, just like the dualshocks and Xbox controllers etc you would otherwise play a racer with, so your point about the buttons is moot

[Anonymous No.10315153]

>>10314951
>>10314929
>>10314927
Is it really that hard to understand that this is a sega saturn controller and not only whatever autistic shit you want to use it for. I mean just think about it for a second. Why would it suck to make such a controller that only has half of the extra features of the Saturn 3d pad?

[Anonymous No.10315208]

>>10313716

[Anonymous No.10315229]

>>10313716
Enjoy your latency.

[Anonymous No.10315239]

>>10315229
isn't it 2.4ghz?

[Anonymous No.10315267]

>>10315153
>>10315125
It has 2 more buttons than a ps5 controller you dumb ass.
6 face 4 shoulders

[Anonymous No.10315268]

>>10315239
This fucking retard probably uses Bluetooth controllers for plenty of things anyway

[Anonymous No.10315330]

>>10313820
I got one right here. works fine

[Anonymous No.10315336]

>>10313716
I'll wait for some reviews.
Those dinky little sticks looks super useless and might as well go with their regular saturn controller instead.

Also is the button mapping on this thing known yet for the face buttons?

[Anonymous No.10315357]

>>10314927
I am no longer going to take any Sega poster seriously.

[Anonymous No.10315371]

>>10314506
>symmetrical sticks

[Anonymous No.10315403]

>>10313716
Imagine being a retrobit employee who worked hard on this product for years, finally manage to release this thing and be greeted by the positive feedback in this thread.

Yes, I know (You) are reading this

Why the tiny sticks?
Why no profiles for custom button mapping like the 8bitdo pro2 has?

[Anonymous No.10315413]

neat to have the extra input, but for the most part seems kinda pointless

I love the Saturn pad, but the games I want to use it for don’t need sticks. And I can’t imagine those sticks feel great to use for normal modern games, the controller isn’t designed around them they’re just tacked on

This is the same issue with the SN30, the classic controller, or hell even the DualShock.
It wasn’t until the DS4 that it really felt like Sony made a controller designed around using the sticks, and not a snes pad with thighs and fake tits

[Anonymous No.10315414]

>>10315413
And most modern games using the sticks also don’t get the benefit of the killer Dpad and 6 button layout.

Sorry for the double post, forgot that part

[Anonymous No.10315418]

Thanks but it’s still the m30 and an Xbox controller if I need sticks

[Anonymous No.10315483]

>>10314506
Face button labels is reversed retard
But you are proposing a Wii U pro controller with 6 face buttons.

[Anonymous No.10315528]

>>10313716
>that stick placement
SONY WON

[Anonymous No.10315556]

Why not have two fucking controllers instead of frankensteining a one size fits all controller
What games would improve by having acess to 6 face buttons + 2 analogs?

[Anonymous No.10315575]

How does the Saturn dpad compare to the Series X one? This is my favorite dpad

[Anonymous No.10315582]

>>10313748
>look like
Right, LOOKS LIKE. Doesn't mean it is. Far from it. These third parties don't copy the design for nothing.

[Anonymous No.10315592]

>>10315575
it's better with higher precision and more secondary motion to directional presses, helping it become muscle memory

[Anonymous No.10315626]

Maybe 8bitdo will finally get off their asses and make an M30 pro now

[Anonymous No.10315628]

>>10313748
Non gamer post

[Anonymous No.10315654]

>>10313912
Couldn't they have altered it enough so that the controller was bigger/longer or maybe very slightly alter the design enough so that the sticks could fit better? These look about as close as Sony's controllers I don't see the issue.

[Anonymous No.10315796]

Blue balls the controller

[Anonymous No.10315801]

>>10315556
Says it's Saturn compatible wonder if it can emulate a 3D pad.

[Anonymous No.10315834]

>>10315371
i love symmetrical sticks
i prefer the dpad and face buttons to be on the same plane even the steam deck understands this

[Anonymous No.10315842]

>>10315403
they badly need their own software because hall effect is not inherently drift proof (the point of failure is the tension spring that recenters the stick) so over time you need to adjust deadzones
and i hope they spent more r&d on their wireless implementation because the numbers they produce are middling at best

[Anonymous No.10315886]

>>10315654
I'm surprised they could do this much with a licensed controller.

[Anonymous No.10315964]

>>10315801
I bet the stick works and that's why it was delayed. Can't emulate the analog triggers though. Overall a disappointment

[Anonymous No.10315969]

>>10315801
I read it works as a dpad replacement or a 3d circlepad.

[Anonymous No.10315970]

>>10315969
>Retro-Bit have just opened pre-orders on a “pro” version of their wireless 2.4GHz RF Saturn controller, that include “Hall Effect” analog control sticks that will act as the Saturn’s 3D Control Pad when enabled. It comes in a choice of black or white and also comes with two receivers: One for original Saturn consoles and another for USB devices such as the MiSTer and Nintendo Switch. The price is $50 and it’s due to ship in December:


https://www.retrorgb.com/sega-saturn-wireless-pro-controller.html

[Anonymous No.10316170]

>>10314910
It's good for handheld console, but obviously its not going to outclass Saturn or many other proper controller d-pads. Its def better than PSP's d-pad though.

[Anonymous No.10316213]

>>10315414
>>10315413
It's for emulation you dumb ass.
Not only can you bounce between multiple systems, but it's also great to have the extra buttons and sticks to use with functions.

[Anonymous No.10316216]

>>10315556
Emulating ps2 and using emulator functions

[Anonymous No.10316391]

>>10313716
>saturn 3d pad replacement
>but no analog triggers
>fucking joycon nubs
>no R3 L3
>C=R1 and Z=L1 on pc
its fucking over
they had the best prototype and fucking ruined it

[Anonymous No.10316403]

>>10316391
I have one of the earlier Retrobit Saturn USB controllers and Steam recognizes it as one of their old SNES controllers and gives me completely unusable button layouts thinking AB and XY are reversed.

[Anonymous No.10316489]

>>10316403
that's normal for nintendo controllers in x-input
if you're using steam you can just use steam input to remap
>>10316391
wouldn't you be able to use zl and zr as l3 and r3?

[Anonymous No.10316491]

>>10316391
LMAO what the fuck happened

[Anonymous No.10316537]

>>10316391
This actually looks quite a bit more pleasant ergonomically. Still not sure how it comfortable it would be playing for hours at a time, I already struggle with doing that on my regular saturn pad, but I'd try it. Final product is a hard pass.

[Anonymous No.10316607]

If you want them to release an actual good controller, now is the time to bitch and complain. No one is saying anything

[Anonymous No.10316616]

>>10314910
sony had some prototype dualshock 4 controllers that used a bigger vita d-pad

[Anonymous No.10316829]

>>10316607
I mean they're pretty set on these based on their faq.

[Anonymous No.10316837]

>>10316829
By set on these I mean the sticks since that seems to be the sticking point with everyone

[Anonymous No.10316852]

>>10316391
It's not gay unless the thumbs touch

[Anonymous No.10316893]

If the sticks were good, I could accept the lack of analog triggers because it would be cool for things other than Saturn. If the triggers were analog, then I could accept the garbage sticks because you only need 1 for Saturn, and having 2 could just be a bonus for other stuff. But in its current state, this is a flaming pile of shit. The wireless adapter for the actual Saturn 3d pad can't come soon enough

[Anonymous No.10316907]

no one here has held the sticks yet
on joycons people complain more about the drift than the sticks themselves and i don't know what specific module they chose but it'll hopefully last longer than the switch's sticks

[Anonymous No.10316947]

The switch gets away with low profile sticks because it's a portable console. You can pair a real controller up to it with actual sticks. I would never purchase a dedicated controller with these baby sticks on it. I understand the design choice but I'm just not interested

[Anonymous No.10316958]

>>10314470
>AA batteries
This is a good thing
Subhuman faggot

[Anonymous No.10316983]

>>10316391
If it were widened a bit to space the analogs apart, that would be ideal.
Now thats a solid general use controller. Saturn d-pad + 6-button layout, brought up to modern standards.
How hard is that to understand.. they completely fucked it.

[Anonymous No.10317130]

>>10316907
Looks like the aftermarket replacements for the joycon sticks.

>>10316983
It would still be an ergonomic nightmare. Hold up a dual shock from the middle of the back plate instead of the handles and try to use the joysticks, it's god awful.

[Anonymous No.10317250]

>>10313716
>no wired version
I don't care about wireless gaming products. Not ready to make that compromise.

[Anonymous No.10317293]

>>10317250
>plug in usb-c cable
wow that was hard

[Anonymous No.10317429]

>>10317293
actually, on their Twitter post they said wired isn't supported except to charge. It's the case for their other Wireless controllers.

[Anonymous No.10317467]

>>10317429
link? i don't have an X account
if true then lmao these schmucks are more incompetent than i thought

[Anonymous No.10317473]

>>10313775
kek I didnt even notice. fuck that's virtually unplayable what were they thinking? why even include it

[Anonymous No.10318425]

>>10316391
What a shame, this controller would've been my daily driver for emulation.

[Anonymous No.10318456]

Who fucked this up? What went wrong that led to this conclusion?

1. Sega wanting their brand presented in a faithful way
2. Retro bit not prioritizing a great product
3. Testers providing extremely autistic feedback on this niche controller
4. ??????

[Anonymous No.10318870]

>>10316616
tfw Sony could've gone with the Wii U design for the DS4... could've been decent though.

[Anonymous No.10319080]

Saying it here too, I got the regular 2.4g controller and it has the C-button defect. Are yurop getting screwed over and getting older models?

[Anonymous No.10319119]

>>10316391
Analog triggers should be "standard" for third party multi-platform controllers nowadays, unless it's for a specific use-case like fighting games. Same with hall sensor sticks (with R3/L3), and being software programmable. I've got to give credit to 8bitdo for raising the bar as far as Chinese shit goes.

I have two of the transparent blue wireless Saturn pads. Lost one of the dongles in a move and apparently they don't offer replacements. On top of that, the shoulder buttons suck and the battery life isn't great. It would be better if 8bitdo had the license.

[Anonymous No.10319126]

>>10319119
Analog triggers should only be "standard" if they have trigger stops. The most popular console and the one that has the most open support for third party controllers like the ones mentioned here is the Switch and Switch games only support digital triggers. The only example people brought up are fucking racing games which is too small of a segment to cater to.
I agree with you about needing to edit and save Hall effect stick calibration, it's practically the crux of the "never drift" marketing. It's like having a Dpad without a pivot.

[Anonymous No.10319161]

>>10319126
>The only example people brought up are fucking racing games which is too small of a segment to cater to
Didn't some sports games make use of analog triggers? I wouldn't know since I never play sports games. I wouldn't say that racing games are a small niche market. It's a rather large segment of games that appeal to many types of gamers from casual to hardcore, and many of those games can benefit from analog triggers. Even if analog inputs don't lower your track times, it can add to your enjoyment.

There are even many retro racing games that can make use of analog triggers via emulation. I'm sure there are also several titles scattered about that are almost unplayable without analog triggers. Mario Sunshine comes to mind. Zusar Vasar on Dreamcast is another one.

I also wonder if some PS2 games could have some pressure sensitive face buttons remapped to triggers when emulating. PS2 controllers were total shit in terms of quality, with that paper thin plastic membrane they used. They degrade over time even if you keep them safely stored so relying on a supply of working PS2 controllers won't be viable long-term.

[Anonymous No.10319213]

>>10319126
I agree with you and that guy was being general. But for a Saturn controller specifically, you just gotta have the triggers for the racing games

[Anonymous No.10319526]

>>10313716
been excited for these ever since i saw that prototype, definitely preordering. hoping that they do end up making a new 3D pad as well.

[Anonymous No.10319557]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEHN3aLHbSw
damn it looks dinky
also unlike a real saturn controller, L/R don't click

[Anonymous No.10319657]

>>10313748
fuck off crosstarded nintengroid

[Anonymous No.10319669]

>>10319657
could be an xbox guy
they've been hailing the series x as the best first party dpad for a while now
no comment on people who thought the earlier xbox dpads were good

[Anonymous No.10319670]

>>10319669
well they are, but unfortunately in the wrong place to actually use for anything

[Anonymous No.10320478]

>>10319669
I quite like the newest XBOX D-Pad, it feels like a successor to SEGA's style, the only one that does resemble a SEGA D-Pad nowadays... but the D-Pad's unfortunately in the wrong place to be truly great.

[Anonymous No.10320483]

>>10313820
Its a 2d console from the era of 3d that utterly failed everywhere except japan, of course its popular on the most contrarian weebfaggot website on the internet

[Anonymous No.10320578]

>>10319557
The sticks come very close to the ridge on the controller housing. This means rubber caps probably won't fit without rubbing against the controller housing. I put Skull & Co covers on all my analog sticks to prolong the life, and not being able to do that is a big enough reason for me to pass on this.

[Anonymous No.10320820]

>>10314506
Why two pairs of select/start buttons?
That layout seems incredibly unergonomic, like you'll be pressing A B and X as you try to press Z.

[Anonymous No.10320931]

>>10319126
>>10319161
Analog triggers can also be used to bind PS1/PS2 pressure sensitive buttons. And also partial/full-press hotkeys.

[Anonymous No.10321534]

>play duke nukem 3d on saturn
>strafing without analog triggers
>CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK tapdancing on those digital shoulder buttons
>throw retrobit controller into the garbage
>get out Saturn 3d control pad
>enjoy playing saturn

[Anonymous No.10321546]

>>10320578
I wish they had made the housing a little bigger... they almost touching the analogs is painful.

[Anonymous No.10322768]

>>10313716
I won't judge until I actually use it, but it looks fine I guess.

[Anonymous No.10322779]

>>10317473
To say that they did.
If they can market it as an "general use" option, it has more broad appeal than a strictly digital controller. Regardless of how viable it may or may not be. As long as the 2D portion of the controller isn't compromised, it's exclusively a benefit even if it goes unused 95% of the time.

[Anonymous No.10322883]

>>10315582
look like is correct since hes talking about the d-pads in plural form

[Anonymous No.10322895]

Slightly off-topic but does anyone know how to get my Retro-bit USB Saturn controller to work on Linux?

[Anonymous No.10322907]

>>10313716
I mean, I get what they were going for, just take what many consider to be the ideal 2D controller, and add analog sticks so it's viable for 3D, to make it the only controller anyone might need... I think they've pulled it off quite well, just wish the housing for the sticks was bigger so they don't get so close to touching it, or if there wasn't any housing at all, but the joycons don't look bad, as long as they don't drift, this is superb.

[Anonymous No.10323940]

>>10314910
The Xbone and SeX D-Pads are pretty close, I've found

[Anonymous No.10324461]

>>10313716
I mean, even with the joycons and the housing almost touching them... this is still looking just fantastic, I suppose that with a concept like an already perfect controller with the only things missing from it being added, it was impossible for it to not be good, even with them actively trying to mess it up with bad choices, it's good.

[Anonymous No.10324509]

>>10314930
Good morning ser! 15 rupees have been deposit to your account!

[Anonymous No.10324530]

>>10313973
Too small for white people hands

[Anonymous No.10324759]

>>10322895
try the xinput-dinput toggle, or toggling l/r/pad for the dpad. There's a manual online.

[Anonymous No.10326049]

>>10313716
IT'S PERFECT

[Anonymous No.10326171]

>>10326049
>can't use it wired
it's dead to me

[Anonymous No.10326193]

>>10317429
this you?
>>10326171
alright scratch that, i went to look it up myself
fucking cant trust posters here

[Anonymous No.10326202]

fucking forgot the link
https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=5189

[Anonymous No.10326275]

>>10326202
I think it's fucking stupid that they can't include a motherfucking USB driver. This is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.10326313]

>>10326275
maybe you should learn what xinput and dinput are

[Anonymous No.10326363]

>>10326313
What are you saying with this? That DirectInput and XInput have special requirements to work and RetroBit's wireless controllers don't meet them?

[Anonymous No.10326649]

>>10324509
8bit-do employees use the weirdest viral marketing tactics.

[Anonymous No.10326971]

>>10316391
>>no R3 L3
Source?

[Anonymous No.10327128]

>>10326363
I think you should read the fucking manual you dickhead.

[Anonymous No.10327293]

>>10313716
note to you faggots making these shill threads, release a bluetooth model, as it will have lowest input lag on my docket nigtendo switch, thanks.

[Anonymous No.10327490]

>>10326971
I actually had to ask on twitter.
it does have R3/L3 stick clicks but its not mentioned anywhere, not even the early youtube reviews or site documents.

[Anonymous No.10328517]

>>10327490
I see, that's a relief... now if the next version adds analog triggers and removes that housing for the analog sticks, maybe make them bigger, it'll be a 10/10 for me.