/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10275143]

Why is it that online discussions of third party controllers generally focus on the worst examples?
Can we have one thread about the good controllers?

[Anonymous No.10275153]

>>10275143
Sure if you post one we can discuss it

[Anonymous No.10275191]

PS1 Madcatz controller with the unique d-pad I thought was only on their Dreamcast offerings.

[Anonymous No.10275193]

My hori famicom controller is pretty much fucking perfect even compared to OEM. When exactly did they deviate from this quality?

[Anonymous No.10275203]

>>10275193
They haven't. Hori still makes great controllers.
They also made some of the OEM controllers for Nintendo and Sony.

[Anonymous No.10275206]

What do we think of this chunker?

[Anonymous No.10275209]

This is my baby.

[Anonymous No.10275212]

are 3rd party controllers the only ways to play these old consoles now? It's getting hard to find official controllers for retro consoles or even 7th gen consoles. I have a hard time even getting a DS3 let alone a DS2 or DS1.

[Anonymous No.10275213]

>>10275212
>It's getting hard to find official controllers for retro consoles or even 7th gen consoles.
Total nonsense.
I reject your premise.

[Anonymous No.10275215]

>>10275212
I don't know how or why ebay seems to be unavailable to so many, but affordable oem controllers are available and widespread. Yes, some need repairs, but more often than not they'll work fully.

[Anonymous No.10275227]

Loved this shit. Made shoot em ups much more tolerable.

[Anonymous No.10275237]

>>10275213
He's right. I tried to get a Dualshock 3 a few years ago and even most of the used controllers were unofficial.

[Anonymous No.10275247]

>>10275227
>Lookin good

[Anonymous No.10275256]

>>10275237
Again, absolute nonsense.
Learn to use the internet.

[Anonymous No.10275265]

>>10275256
I picked up a couple but there weren't many available. Why are you so incredulous about this?

[Anonymous No.10275269]

I really loved these cheap Performance brand controllers. They had a great soft feel compared to the OEM playstation controllers.
It was just a shame they did not last. The d-pad would break off in a few months.

[Anonymous No.10275273]

>>10275265
Because it's utter nonsense. Right now there are hundreds and hundreds of official OEM controllers available for any given popular retro system on ebay.

[Anonymous No.10275292]

>>10275213
I can't find original ds3 or ds2 controllers, or n64 ones

[Anonymous No.10275325]

>>10275292
Over 30 legit DS3s on ebay right now.

[Anonymous No.10275332]

These things really held up for me. Longer cables, 6 button layout that was tougher to find, feels good, extra functions. I have a propad 2 and a 6, honestly couldn't tell you the difference between them except the number.

[Anonymous No.10275340]

These are lower quality and break down with a lot of use or time, but I remember them fondly for mashing, especially with the super gameboy. They feel decent to use

[Anonymous No.10275362]

And finally for N64 I outright prefer this controller to OEM for almost everything. Easy to get used to the seemingly skewed layout, the benefits of the stick placement are obvious, you can still plug in expansions, and you don't feel like your stick is dying of AIDS

[Anonymous No.10275371]

>>10275191
Madcatz did not have good products until mid 00’s

[Anonymous No.10275379]

>>10275371
are you a time traveler from the 22nd century

[Anonymous No.10275401]

>>10275371
Well you just don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.10275406]

>>10275362
Downsides

>d-pad is bad for fighting games
-analog stick rubs blister on your thumb through normal use

Still, I beat Mario Kart 64 on 150cc with one of them.

[Anonymous No.10275414]

>>10275371
One of the most NPC "opinion" you'll find on /vr/.
Just casualfags and kids rehashing memes, or they owned that one bad PS2 controller that Mad Catz made. One among dozens of different models.

[Anonymous No.10275494]

>>10275143
That controller uses almost the exact same mold as the SCPH-1080.
It would make a fine companion to a blue debug kit PlayStation.
You could possible make it an even closer match by swapping the buttons out for those from a normal SCPH-1080, and the d-pad from a Hori Fighting Commander so it would be the correct grey color.

[Anonymous No.10275945]

>>10275325
A lot of them are fake.

[Anonymous No.10275989]

I guess this is a good thread to ask this.
Are there any third party PS2 controllers still being sold that include the pressure sensitive buttons? It seems to me that all of the ones being sold these days are just DS3 being rigged to work with PS2 games.

[Anonymous No.10276187]

>>10275989
Yes

[Anonymous No.10276213]

>>10275362
That looks great, where is the Z trigger? Left or right?

[Anonymous No.10276218]

>>10275414
That controller was such a total piece of shit that your post comes off as a typical contrarian troll.

[Anonymous No.10276226]

This was the best $24 I spent on retro gaming, and the ideal controller layout for 90% of games. It's now $42 and it doesn't really sound like a deal anymorem

[Anonymous No.10276329]

>>10276213
Left, lined up with the stick

[Anonymous No.10276374]

My favorite 3rd party controller of all time is the Honeybee/Competition Pro control pad for the Master System. It's just so much better than the very unpleasant feeling genuine controller. The d-pad is way better, and the concave buttons are much nicer than the official's flat Smarties feeling ones.

>>10275362
I have this one. It's okay. I appreciate the metal stick, even if you have to push north north-east to go up.
My problem is that no controller feels right for the N64. Not even the official one.

[Anonymous No.10276578]

>>10275945
That was not counting the fake ones. Which are very easy to spot.

[Anonymous No.10276585]

>>10276226
gaudy

[Anonymous No.10276603]

>>10275227
Convince me about those tiny buttons and weird d-pad.

[Anonymous No.10276612]

I've never used these programmable controllers, but I think they look super cool.

[Anonymous No.10276617]

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[Anonymous No.10276619]

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[Anonymous No.10276636]

Anyone using the current Xbox controller for emulation on PC? I'm on the Xbone one and it was a big improvement over 360, is the new one any better?

[Anonymous No.10276640]

>>10276226
Problem with 360 controller and its clones is the shitty d-pad. Major inconvenience for retro gaming

[Anonymous No.10276648]

>>10276578
How? Obviously you should avoid the ones that appear to still be boxed, but I had to ask the sellers to send a video of them using the controller to make sure I didn't get screwed and get a used fake.

[Anonymous No.10276653]

for me? well its the croftshock controller

[Anonymous No.10276663]

>>10276648
Price is the quickest and easiest tell. People who have a legit used dual shock 3 or sixaxis know it and want a premium for it.

Then the next easiest is the PS button. On most of the fakes it's just not quite right. This seems to be one of the harder things for them to replicate.

Then the lettering on the START and SELECT buttons + SONY logo just won't look quite right.

[Anonymous No.10276678]

best controller
>best analog stick
>analog triggers
>fits well in your hand
>dpad is good

[Anonymous No.10276736]

>>10276374
I'd forgotten about owning this. The dpad is indeed better than the original, but I find it goes almost too far in the opposite direction. Original is mushy, but this one is almost too stiff.

[Anonymous No.10276993]

The Hori Horipad for Nintendo Switch is a pretty decent overall controller, once you get used to its peculiar d-pad; it's good, but you need to get the hang of it first. It has no rumble or analog triggers though, so you may find it a bit limited for modern gaming, but, since we're in /vr/, that poses no problem.

[Anonymous No.10277002]

>>10276993
not retro

[Anonymous No.10277009]

I just wish Logitech made a PC version of it. Most comfortable controller I've ever used and I'll pick it over anything else for 3d/analogue games

[Anonymous No.10277013]

>>10276993
not retro and its a chinese rip off of the xbox controller

[Anonymous No.10277106]

>>10275209
I've got one of these.
Easily the best 3rd party NES controller by a fucking mile

[Anonymous No.10277437]

Are there any good replacement NES controllers out there? I want something ergonomic with turbo.

[Anonymous No.10277457]

I cant post images but the logitech wireless controller for ps1/ps2 is really good, I have a pair

[Anonymous No.10277463]

>>10275206
>profile pic vs. real life

[Anonymous No.10277487]

>>10275989
Real DS3s have pressure sensitive buttons too

[Anonymous No.10279334]

>>10275143
I don't know if it counts as 3rd party, since it was an official partnership, but Tec Toy made SEGA's consoles all the way into the 2000's, with quite a few interesting color variants other parts of the world never got... like this gray 6-Button Genesis controller... I love this thing, looks so sleek!

[Anonymous No.10279453]

>>10275989
Retrofighters defender. I tried one in a friends house and it was pretty nice. Although I have heard their stuff isn't the most reliable.

[Anonymous No.10279516]

>>10275371
Had a wheel from them in the late 90s for N64 and it was decent. Never liked any of their pads though

[Anonymous No.10279545]

>>10275371
They made a basic 15 block ps1 memory card that was just as good as the official one but half the price. Then they did the same thing when ps2 came out.

[Anonymous No.10279561]

>>10276329
Neat!

[Anonymous No.10279562]

>>10275371
MadCatz made the best Dreamcast controller.

[Anonymous No.10279569]

The color versions removed the rubber coating from the buttons and d-pad.
Which was an improvement.
I bought one of the white ones originally but when the DC product line went on sale I bought another purple one and swapped the buttons and d-pad to make a custom white version with smooth parts.

[Anonymous No.10279718]

>>10275206
proto duke

[Anonymous No.10279720]

>>10275362
this was my preferred controller as a lad

[Anonymous No.10279875]

>>10275206
I kind of like how stiff it looks.
Would be good for RPGs maybe.

[Anonymous No.10279902]

>>10275362
The only one of these i ever owned, the joystick would constantly stick o the edge because the lip was too tall for the stick in some spots. It also felt incredibly cheap compared to the original controller. If i remember correctly though, the stick was made out of metal, which may have been a good thing as far as wear and tear is concerned, but not if the fucking thing gets stick on certain corners. i also remember that particular pattern on the top of the joystick being slippery as fuck compared to the original also.

[Anonymous No.10280081]

>>10279545
They had a higher chance at save file corruption.

[Anonymous No.10280095]

>>10275247
Kino 80s look.

[Anonymous No.10280102]

>>10275143
I would rather 90s jank controllers than 8 bit do products.

My favourite jank controller had to be the madcatz dreamcast pad with the awful rubber buttons that were impossible to mash.

[Anonymous No.10280110]

>>10275227
>>10275247

[Anonymous No.10280113]

>>10280081
Not the basic 15 block version.

[Anonymous No.10280129]

still works

[Anonymous No.10280136]

>>10280110
Klaus Nomi really had some good songs...

[Anonymous No.10280174]

>>10276226
I like the Joytech NEO SE Advanced Wired Controller since it has a similar layout to the Controller S for the Original Xbox. The only real problem I have with this controller is that it isn't simply plug-and-play on PC like a real Xbox 360 wired controller is, you have to find and download the driver, etc. Even though it says Joytech, I think it's actually made by MadCatz.

[Anonymous No.10280540]

>>10279562
That dpad looks disgusting

[Anonymous No.10280578]

>>10280540
Well it's not.

[Anonymous No.10280584]

>>10275143
based, I have the same one but clear

[Anonymous No.10280638]

>>10280584
How do the buttons feel compared to the OEM?

[Anonymous No.10280641]

>>10280578
it will be once i get my Dorito covered fingers on it

[Anonymous No.10280656]

>>10275143
Hori typically made a lot of controllers I liked using. I think they are pretty good and nailed down D-pads.

[Anonymous No.10280660]

>>10280638
taller and less rounded, more "clicky" at the bottom of the throw

[Anonymous No.10281352]

>>10275362
we had this during its release
it was like $20 bargain bin
we all hated it anon sorry
>>10276226
rockcandy? ya solid
>>10276329
still bad haha
i remember sucking at top gear rally and mario kart with it and being peeved
maybe as an adult its better
but sour memory
>>10276653
kekked
>>10276678
anon that is literally first party
>>10276993
i hate switch controllers
theyre light, TOO light, feel cheap/hollow
>>10277009
for me it was the MS sidewinder 2
it looks jank as fuck but its comfy
esp the dpad slider
>>10279334
neat
>>10279562
anon i.......
>>10279569
i have the madkatz lightgun with the turbo/auto reload
its actually pretty good
>>10280656
hori is basically first party
much of the time its literally 1:1 components/parts
does it even count?
my recs seem faggy but:
hyperkin makes decent pads for nes, snes, tg16/pc engine, and n64
prob others too but i wont vouch if i havent tried it myself

for n64 if your are maximum autistic like me you WILL notice a difference, but for $20 each if you have kids playing its basically the perfect replacement
for HIGH ACCURACY shit like slingshot/bow minigames in OoT you will come up short
but for everything else i have never found a better 3rd party controller that still has the correct OG shape

thanks for reading my blog
bye

[Anonymous No.10281457]

>>10281352
You are an asshole.

[Anonymous No.10281496]

>>10281457
why because i said powerA switch controllers feel cheap?
its true i have a couple of them
i hate using them even for $10 each i wish i didnt buy them

[Anonymous No.10282620]

>>10281496
No, I wasn't even quoted by you. However, if I was, I'd be pretty appalled by someone coming outta nowhere and going "lol my opinion > your opinion. sry u suck" over several posters here. Despite that, the fact you're still lacking self-consciousness makes quite a point.

[Anonymous No.10282640]

>>10281496
Because you quoted eleven different posts, you multi-quoting asshole. It's extremely rude.

[Anonymous No.10282683]

>>10275143
bad controllers are funnier, obviously

>>10275191
the nomad has a similar d-pad; I always joke that I'm screwed if I want another one. Maybe one of these can help.

[Anonymous No.10282687]

>>10275193
Hori never deviated, they're still top tier.

[Anonymous No.10282692]

>>10275227
Looks good but I can't help but draw comparison

[Anonymous No.10282698]

>>10276374
I disagree, once you replace the joystick parts and lube it up, a 64 stick is fine for the games that need its unique behavior. For the games that don't, a hori mini is sufficient. Just don't try to play goldeneye or f-zero x with a hori mini.

[Anonymous No.10282703]

>>10276612
steering? Don't tell me they built a "wheel" into this. Surely it can't be analog either given the nature of the controller.

[Anonymous No.10282713]

>>10280656
fucking hell m8, I have top left but it wont work. Years ago it just stopped connecting to my pc. Seeing someone else with one gives me hope. Fuck if I know why it wont work though. Wish it did, i love it

[Anonymous No.10282717]

>>10282620
>>10282640
What's so bad about that? sep posts for every one would be obnoixous too

[Anonymous No.10282723]

>>10275340
Hey, I have this. I definitely used it more than the normal controllers, and it still works fine as far as I'm aware.

[Anonymous No.10282758]

>>10282717
lurk more

[Anonymous No.10282771]

>>10282758
I've lurked enough; I don't care if someone wants to bunch several posts together. Only argument I can think of here is that with so many posts quoted, it is tough to know what is the response to each one, and others are likely to just look over the reply. But if it's something like 3-6 separate posts, then I don't see the issue.

[Anonymous No.10282884]

>>10282771
That's the exact reason why you should not do that.
3 should be the upper limit.
You replied to 11.
You are an asshole.
Asshole.

[Anonymous No.10282891]

>>10282717
>sep posts for every one would be obnoixous too
No, that would be much better and is acceptable.

[Anonymous No.10282945]

>>10282891
There's another benefit many newer users overlook: since replying one by one is more troublesome, the poster tend to engage only in conversations to which he actually has something to say. It's not a hard rule, so lame shitposting is always a possibility, but it helps you to prevent yourself to reply to eleven people saying "didnt like ur pick! oops!"

[Anonymous No.10283005]

>>10282884
I'll be sure to tell that anon not to post that way, you clown ass anon assuming every anon is the same anon.

[Anonymous No.10283152]

>>10276678
Thrid party controllers you tard

[Anonymous No.10283208]

>>10282640
wouldnt be an issue if you werent posting on mobile
use your mouse to parse

[Anonymous No.10283336]

>>10275340
their PC controllers are pretty good (same materials and mold) considering the IBM PC controller wasteland/experiential bullshit that existed.

[Anonymous No.10284335]

>>10282640
"u maed me read a thing! RUDE!!"
pls go back

[Anonymous No.10284428]

>>10284335
>anyone read that shitpost
lmao

[Anonymous No.10284430]

>>10284428
they did

[Anonymous No.10284658]

>>10284430
No

[Anonymous No.10284938]

[Anonymous No.10284957]

>>10281352
Shut the fuck up retard.

[Anonymous No.10285883]

I bought one of these $4 PS2 to PS3 converters off of ebay.
Did not have high expectations for it.
However, it does work and it doesn't even have much input lag. Maybe 1 frame, or maybe none at all. I have not measured but it's pretty darn low if it's there.
And I've used some laggy converters so I know what those are like, and I play very lag-sensitive genres so if it's a problem or not.
This thing is okay. For frickin' four bucks at least. It even supports X-input.

But I can't figure out how to get it to work with a pure digital controller, if it can at all. Works fine with my dual shock 1 controller, but if I plug in my OEM SCPH-1010 it only recognizes the up direction and nothing else.
Maybe a button combo on start-up?

[Anonymous No.10285942]

I've been using this as my daily driver for ps1 and 2 games. It feels great in the hands, and it has the pressure sensitive buttons for the games that use it.

[Anonymous No.10286050]

>>10284658
see?
>>10284957

[Anonymous No.10286514]

>>10275332
looks a lot like my favorite pc gamepad I used for almost a decade

[Anonymous No.10286520]

>heres your controller bro
>secretly prefer using it anyway

[Anonymous No.10286701]

>>10286520
>all six buttons the same size
If the d-pad is good this is the best KI controller.

[Anonymous No.10287379]

@10286050
What exactly am I supposed to see? Just stop coping already.

[Anonymous No.10288261]

>>10279334
I wish we could get a USB version of this for PC... would love to use it while emulating Genesis, both the console and controller look surprisingly stunning in these colors.

[Anonymous No.10289182]

>>10288261
If you're not talking exclusively about the colors, RetroFlag has a pretty decent and cheap USB Genesis controller.

[Anonymous No.10289201]

>>10285883
Id unno, just be happy it works at all I'd say. Chinkium is about as trustworthy as their south china sea map.

[Anonymous No.10289204]

>>10286701
potentially also good for AKI wrestling games and the rare fighting games.

[Anonymous No.10289209]

>>10288261
USB adapters aren't too hard to come by for MD, are they?

[Anonymous No.10289323]

>>10288261
>I wish we

[Anonymous No.10290639]

>>10275191
Thread killed in 2 posts flat.

[Anonymous No.10290812]

>>10290639
you're ignorant

[Anonymous No.10290869]

>>10290812
You have buyer's remorse.

[Anonymous No.10291509]

>>10281352
11 replies and barely any of them worth reading, with the worst offender being "neat". You're anonymous. If you don't have something worth saying, don't clutter the thread drawing attention to yourself adding nothing to the discussion.

[Anonymous No.10291606]

>>10290869
>idiot thinks because I post a controller I must own it
I bet you think that's my own OC photograph too.

[Anonymous No.10291669]

>>10291606
Someone starts a quality third party controller thread and your compulsion is to post madkatz. You're either famished for attention or the dumbest motherfucker on the block.

[Anonymous No.10291713]

>>10282713
Driver issue where it became a clusterfuck in your PC's registry or whatever the fuk, or the cable / connectors have a slightly weakness or intermittent strength to the signal which makes the PC not want to connect with it. Just two guesses from my experience. If it doesn't work on other computers the cable or connectors probably need to be replaced

[Anonymous No.10291715]

>>10282884
Read big threads from the bottom up, it's not hard. Replying to many posts is still contributing

[Anonymous No.10291748]

>>10275206

Oh wow, I had this back in the day. D-pad wasn't that bad but the buttons were very stiff. Always wondered why it was so thick when it didn't need to be (guessing for turbo circuitry). It was half as much as the official controller, so got you multiplayer at an okay quality at a decent price.

[Anonymous No.10291803]

>>10275379
That would be 000s not 00s retard.

[Anonymous No.10291813]

>>10291669
>madcatz bad!
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.10292465]

ENTER

[Anonymous No.10292853]

>>10292465
How well did the wireless work?

[Anonymous No.10293025]

This was great

[Anonymous No.10293086]

I had one of these for the ps1 and it sucked. It had flimsy triggers, the steering was unresponsive and it felt cheap. I didn't realize it was made by hori until now.

[Anonymous No.10293421]

>>10277009
The ps3 version works on PC, though it doesn't support xinput. I used it for many years on both. Unfortunately the usb dongle stopped working after several years of use. You could use the ps2 version on pc with an adapter. I'm pretty sure you can also use that xbox version on pc with a simple plug adapter, or cutting the wire. Xbox controllers are just USB with a different shape. I used to copy my xbox saves onto flash drives with a xbox->USB plug.

[Anonymous No.10293431]

>>10293025
Interact never made a good controller.

[Anonymous No.10293636]

I need some advice... are there any 3rd party USB or Bluetooth SEGA Saturn controllers that work on GNU/Linux? All of the ones I've found mention Windows and MacOS, and sometimes Steam, we do have Proton, but I don't know if it'd work for a controller...

[Anonymous No.10294034]

>>10293431
Wrong

[Anonymous No.10294061]

>>10275206
Ok but why exactly is it SO FUCKING THICK?