/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10274213]

>December 19, 2003: Last game in the series, V.G. Neo, released (with tie-in OVA releasing the next year); both disliked by series veterans for being pieces of soulless hentai
>nine to ten years pass, with nothing but Advanced Variable Geo 1 and 2 on PSN as PS1 Classics in Japan in the meantime
>August 31, 2022: Last Anna Miller's branch (whose restaurant inspired Yuka's outfit and restaurant) in Japan closed
>March 5, 2023: Takahiro Kimura, character designer, passes away
>March 31, 2023: Giga, TGL's eroge division that birthed Variable Geo on PC-98, closes up shop (TGL is still otherwise around)
How does it feel to be a Variable Geo fan?

[Anonymous No.10274230]

I can smell you from here

[Anonymous No.10274239]

>>10274213
The original games were hentai, you retarded subhuman

[Anonymous No.10274267]

>>10274213
the VG Neo OVA was shit, but the actual game was pretty good since the scenario writer was Fumiaki Maruto

[Anonymous No.10274294]

>>10274239
So was Fate, that didn't stop it from changing genres several times including becoming a fighting game just like V.G. retard

[Anonymous No.10274304]

>>10274294
Difference is VG attempted to fully re-embrace their lewd past. Hell V.G. Custom and Max has defeat H-scenes, then there's the VNs based on the pre-Neo games.

[Anonymous No.10274306]

>>10274304
Same thing happened with Vallis.
Years back there was a big announcement that a now Vallis game was coming out and then.... it was a really really low quality hgame.
It put the series even more in the grave then it was prior.

[Anonymous No.10274716]

>>10274213
>How does it feel to be a Variable Geo fan?
Honestly? I just need the console games, or more precisely, Advanced V.G. 2., I don't really care for rest of the series. Also, Yuka is qt, where did you find this artwork?

>>10274304
>Hell V.G. Custom and Max has defeat H-scenes, then there's the VNs based on the pre-Neo games.
You can do this shit on PC, unlike on the consoles where the licensing rules are strict on graphic sexual content. And V.G. Custom is trash haphazardly put together with assets from various games in the series, while V.G. Max could've been easily released on consoles with the H-stuff removed. I wonder if these two games have the option to switch humiliation scenes off, because PC-98 ones do have it. I would love to check out these VNs but... *sigh* being an EOP sucks ass, bros.

>>10274306
>Same thing happened with Vallis.
Except V.G. series started out as hentai games, then console releases ditched H-stuff, only to go back to being eroge again. Valis wasn't an eroge throughout the whole series until the very end. One thing these two franchises have in common - they were horribly mismanaged. If TGL would care, we would have had Advanced V.G. 3 on modern hardware by now. But I don't see a sequel coming up now that Kimura-san is gone.

[Anonymous No.10274774]

>>10274716
>Also, Yuka is qt, where did you find this artwork?
OVA cel.
>I wonder if these two games have the option to switch humiliation scenes off, because PC-98 ones do have it.
Yes, but apparently you lose pre-fight quotes if you turn it off.

[Anonymous No.10275239]

>>10274213
>>March 5, 2023: Takahiro Kimura, character designer, passes away
>>March 31, 2023: Giga, TGL's eroge division that birthed Variable Geo on PC-98, closes up shop

[Anonymous No.10275271]

>>10275239

[Anonymous No.10275760]

>>10274716
>>10274774
The "VariableGeo Visual Collection" has some nice cel pics scattered in there if you can find your panda provider.
There are also the original paintings of the first game before they translated them to the PC-98 if you look around. Absolutely stellar work by Takahiro Kimura, lovely use of colors and pencils.

[Anonymous No.10275817]

>>10274774
>>10275760
Much appreciated, anons.
>if you can find your panda provider.
Are there no scans on the internet?

[CLSORDTRD No.10276551]

For me, it’s Erina.
Anyway post some of Yuka or Erina bouncing in the OVA.

[Anonymous No.10276685]

>>10276551
I don't have those, but here's her concept sketch, fellow V.G. bro.

[Anonymous No.10276936]

You guys think there will be a hentai boom if Japan finally rid the Article 275 law?

[Anonymous No.10277163]

>>10276936
Japan is c.u_cked beyound belief with CERO, never happen

[Anonymous No.10277272]

>>10276936
Are you referring to the AV Law (which is probably of zero relation to topic at hand anyway) or what?

[Anonymous No.10277317]

>>10274267
>the VG Neo OVA was shit, but the actual game was pretty good
And the character design was shit too. Literally souless.

[Anonymous No.10277319]

>>10274304
They waffled back and forth. Sony was always more restrictive so the PS1 version was pretty much just a shitty Street Fighter imitator. There was a blink and you'll miss it moment where it looked like they were trying to take the franchise mainstream but that fizzled out immediately. Though at the time there wasn't really a wide market for that kind of a game. Adults weren't readily marketed to as easily back then as they are today. If anything VG should probably make a return as a fully 3D game and try to muscle in on DOA's marketshare now that that series is showing some weakness after all the microtransaction bullshit alienated people.

[Anonymous No.10277360]

>>10277319
>Sony was always more restrictive so the PS1 version was pretty much just a shitty Street Fighter imitator.
So what would be the difference? The PCE version at least has copious pantyshots for coomers to enjoy, but the gameplay is just as mediocre, and the spritework is even worse. H-scenes or not, the core gameplay is the same, although the "Advanced" games aren't just as janky as the PC-98 ones.

>If anything VG should probably make a return as a fully 3D game and try to muscle in on DOA's marketshare now that that series is showing some weakness after all the microtransaction bullshit alienated people.
I concur, but if the character roster is completely new and has a shit design like in V.G. Neo, then they'd better not make this return. And if they do, they should include clothing damage as an option.

[Anonymous No.10277445]

>>10277360
Advanced V.G. 1 did have a Sega Saturn version which is pretty much identical to the PS1 version, except with slightly toned-down (IIRC) humiliation scenes.

[Anonymous No.10277458]

>>10274294
>>10274239
Only good thing about fate are futa lore

[Anonymous No.10277470]

>>10274213
>How does it feel to be a Variable Geo fan?

I am glad to have experienced it, but ultimately am disappointed to the point that I would like to make my own all female fighting series in the future while taking care not to repeat its mistakes.

This is a series that had all of the tools necessary to be good but ultimately kept being ruined by poor Japanese business decisions.

They really didn't know about what they had here. People absolutely loved Variable Geo because of its characters. But Giga could never evolve its mindset past the intention of the first game: to make a game full of disposable cheap thrills for its predominately male nukige consuming fan base(because Giga only cared about making a fast buck at the time.)

But the console releases showed us that the series could offer so much more. With a greater emphasis on the fighting and the characters it no longer needed to rely on porn to attract fans.

People became invested in the characters themselves and shallow as some were they still provided a level of cool unique to the 1990s aesthetic.

And in my opinion the worst of it, and this is rarely gets mentioned, is that its rise occurred during the golden age of fighting games yet sadly was not able to capitalize on it(precisely because it kept on returning to the poisoned well of wanting to be an eroge after already breaking into the mainstream.)

Every character references contemporary fighters from that time period.
Yuka plays like Ryu, Satomi's pyrokinesis is a reference to Kyo, Manami uses Blanka's rolling ball attack, Jun Kubota has Terry Bogard's Power Wave and her own variant of Kinnikuman's Buster...It's clear that the dev team loved fighting games and included dozens of references to them.

(cont)

[Anonymous No.10277475]

>>10277470
But as much as it built up these characters in nonadult releases it would then tear them down when Giga needed money by reducing them down to low rent whores in the visual novel games.

All that Variable Geo needed to be successful was hot anime women in fighting game style fights and the unique drama that comes with that. Basically pro wrestling but for anime fans, with a dash of what fighting game fans liked.

[Anonymous No.10277508]

>>10277445
>except with slightly toned-down (IIRC) humiliation scenes.
More like heavily toned-down.

[Anonymous No.10277593]

>>10276551
Erina being said to have fake tits in the dub is I think one of the thinks that helped give me my bimbo and breast implant kinks.
Pure SOVL.

[Anonymous No.10277609]

>>10277593
>Erina being said to have fake tits
She's a walking stereotype of an American woman after all, duh.

[Anonymous No.10277621]

games were kinda trash, albeit
t. roped into playing avg2 at locals and did passively well with this function

[Anonymous No.10277637]

>>10276551

[Anonymous No.10277640]

>>10277609
Only in the dub sadly

[Anonymous No.10277679]

>>10276551
I swear I used to have a GIF of this scene, but I can't find it. Still, this still image has a great sense of movement an bounce to it. God, 90s anime was such unironic SOVL.

[Anonymous No.10277715]

>>10277593
>>10277609
Not a chance. She joined the tournament because she needed money. If she had enough money to spend on cosmetics already she's have no reason to join the tournament.

[Anonymous No.10277736]

>>10277621
they're the good kind of trash thoughever

[Anonymous No.10277737]

>>10274213
variable geo NEO was good and only prudes complained of the game.
>Variable Geo tournament was a special torunament only waitress could fight in there.
>The winner gets glory and money
>The loser gets raped by audience and the rape is streamed worldwide as a pay per view event.
i still don't get why the ones you call veterans complained it was always like that.

[Anonymous No.10277743]

>>10277715
I mean, yeah, it's only in the dub. Still, I wish. Also if you really wanted to come up with a canon explanation for the line:
* The Royale (or whatever her place was called) pai for it.
* The cost of a boobjob she got in the past and the cost of what she needs to win now are not the same. Gotta spen money to make money.

[Anonymous No.10277771]

>>10277736
they actually have a few interesting ideas, how(ever) maybeit. avg2 has at least four different guard cancels for each character, but they're situational and not fully invincible, so you have to switch it up. i also don't really mind bullshit like kaori's infinite and reimi shitting out this sort of damage off a reversal, considering it is just a side game, and being on the giving end is pretty fun
it's just got the same problem every d-list 90's fighter has where movement and normals both feel like ass, so it doesn't end up feeling that good to play. its neutral is pretty stupid too with how throwing a fireball then super jumping in has little counterplay, but maybe that's just who i was playing against

[Anonymous No.10277807]

>>10277637
Good heaven, those jiggle physics are so detailed.

[Anonymous No.10277868]

>>10277637
>>10277609
Janis, inuYasha DS: Finally worthy opponent…ours battle will be legendary.

[Anonymous No.10277915]

>>10277807

[Anonymous No.10277920]

>>10277915

[Anonymous No.10277948]

I like ninja

[Anonymous No.10277968]

I wish this game had a discord or some niche forum or other community of some kind. Or just a good gallery of ova gifs and screenies and shit.
God, it honestly kind of hurts, and I was never a huge fan of this or anything. Just coming here now and seeing this stuf freminds me of this OVA, one of my first faps. Yuka was my waifu.

[Anonymous No.10278027]

>>10277968
We need /vgg/

[Anonymous No.10278040]

>>10277968
>was
She was never your waifu. Waifu isn't WAS. Waifu isn't first. Waifu is only. Waifu is lifeu.

[Anonymous No.10278130]

thanks for giving me a boner, assholes

[Riki No.10278154]

>>10278040
Amen.

[Anonymous No.10278171]

>>10274213
I've only ever played Advanced V.G. on TurboGrafx and Saturn. Still need to actually play Advanced V.G. 2. I prefer it over Asuka 120% but I think the latter has a way better soundtrack

[Anonymous No.10278206]

>>10277948
Really the appeal of a ninja waitress is her use of speed, accuracy, and stealth to serve customers. The appetizers, drinks, and entrees are fast, correct, and undetectable. You do not hear or see the ninja waitress coming...She appears as she is needed leaving you time to enjoy yourself with your company.

[Anonymous No.10278315]

>>10278206
I turn my head and as if a gust of wind the mozzarella sticks have arrived as if they were there the whole time.,

[Anonymous No.10278408]

>>10277319
There was also Super V.G., which not only gutted the lewd parts as per Nintendo's rules, but also the story mode. One could consider that as a cash grab for the popular SNES market since PCE was a dying console and they had to run to greener, more popular pastures.
>>10277475
The smut-only VNs also came at the time where the fighting game boom was at its end too (the original V.G. on PC-98 was a product of that, since it came out in 1993), so convenient timing I suppose?

[Anonymous No.10278438]

I forget the OVA lore. What were the penalties for the different types of matches? I know level 1 was strip + masturbate an I think level 3 or 4 was just strip, so what the fuck was level 2?

[Anonymous No.10278440]

>>10278438
Strip
Humiliation
Rape

[Anonymous No.10278490]

>>10277470
Well the actual fighting was trash on the PC-98 because of the system. I don't think you could get an actual decent fighting game with those specs. The 3 games there where fine as a hentai scene collection. Fight poorly (I think second or third game had supers but that was it) then hentai scene, and also excellent intro animated scenes with voices.
The SNES version was ok but still a far cry from an actual fighting game, at least it was playable.
When it finally became an actual game was the Saturn/PSX version (the PC-Engine was ok) with combos and street fighter-ish physics for jumping and hits. They also had a very nice story mode.
The series peaked with the 2nd PSX game which has tons of fun combos, good graphics and animated scenes, to this day I still fire up the emulator with that game just to mess around.

But the one game nobody ever talks about, the PC version [V.G Max], I had it on my hard disk which died and I fucking lost my CD where I had stored it, I looked all over the internet for a good time and could never find it again.
Incredibly playable ultra fast fun combos, chibi sprite styles AND hentai scenes after victories, the game had it all, well except animation. I heard that game was actually developed by people who would later make the Under Night games but I don't know if it's true, I wouldn't be surprised if it is because the game was so fun.

Making an actual playable game and with hentai scenes is possible, in this day and age you could even do one of those Unreal Engine cell shade games like GuiltyGear/DBZFighters/GranBlueVS and have destructible clothes (and possibly an H scene with an outside patch).
Shame that the company and most of what everything that made the game exist is dead now.

[Anonymous No.10278493]

>>10278490
Someone on Internet Archive has V.G. Max. Just beware of its weird keyboard controls (T-F-H-B pattern) and the fact you can't remap it though.

[Anonymous No.10278524]

>>10278490
>I don't think you could get an actual decent fighting game with those specs.
Valkyrie The Power Beauties, also an all-female fighter.
>The 3 games there where fine as a hentai scene collection. Fight poorly (I think second or third game had supers but that was it) then hentai scene, and also excellent intro animated scenes with voices.
What's the third PC-98 game in the series. Never heard of it.
>The series peaked with the 2nd PSX game which has tons of fun combos, good graphics and animated scenes, to this day I still fire up the emulator with that game just to mess around.
I'm not gonna lie, this is the game that made me interested in fighting games generally. Before that I only played Mortal Kombat 4 and I sucked ass, spamming moves with Raiden was my only chance to win anything lol. I like this game to the point that I bought myself an original copy straight from Japan, and I usually don't collect for disc-based systems.
>But the one game nobody ever talks about, the PC version [V.G Max]
>Incredibly playable ultra fast fun combos, chibi sprite styles AND hentai scenes after victories, the game had it all
You really care about those hentai scenes lol, coomers. The chibi sprites are cool though, I wonder who was the artist for this game. And who voiced the characters, because the console games had a cast of well-known seyiuu.
>>10278493
>Just beware of its weird keyboard controls (T-F-H-B pattern) and the fact you can't remap it though.
This sucks. TGL really should've released this one on the consoles or at least give an option to remap controls.

[Anonymous No.10278574]

>>10278493
Well holy crap, after like 15 years of missing this game, finally someone uploads it no longer than 4 months ago.
As for the controls, if someone could put a gun to my head and I could swear I used to play it with my midiport Sidewinder (without using joy-to-key) It's been 20 years so I don't remember well.

>>10278524
I did check most/all PC-98 fighting games, including Valk Power Beauties, I remember it being choppy and awkward to play and put it on similar level to the other fighting games of the PC-98. But looking at combo videos now I guess it was a lot more playable than I thought. Guess it takes some decent/serious coders to get good physics out of the machine.
As for the third game, my bad. I made the post solely on memory, I did a playthrough of the series some 5 years ago and forgot there was only [Variable Geo] and [Variable Geo 2 - The Bout of Cabalistic Goddess] for PC-98. I guess I should have checked wikipedia or something.

>>10277968
Most of the games art/scenes are on sadpanda, there is also a gallery for the OVA but no gifs sadly. I guess you really want that jiggly goodness.

[Anonymous No.10278656]

>>10278574
No Erina, no buy.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.10278658]

What's the name of the Viper bitch that's just Yuka with cleavage?

[Anonymous No.10278672]

>>10278658
Akira Honjouji

[Anonymous No.10278676]

>>10278672
Do we have her official measurements? How's she stack - hah - up to Yuka?

[Anonymous No.10278694]

>>10278656

[Anonymous No.10278703]

>>10278694
Holy fucking keyed. What's the moonrunes say

[Anonymous No.10278820]

>>10278676
I can't find her 3 sizes but according to Sogna Digital Museum, she's 163 cm and weighs 55 kg, just like Yuka!

[Anonymous No.10279138]

>>10278703
Name
Restaurant
Age
Birthdate
Blood Type
Height
Weight
Measurements

[Anonymous No.10279237]

>>10278490
>>10278493
It sucks that they didn't include a keyboard config but you can change them in VGM.EXE.
With a hex editor, go to offset 6B3E0 (hexadecimal), there you'll see 8 bytes for each player, in the order Up Down Right Left B1 B2 B3 B4.
By default P1 is T, B,H,F, A,S, Z,X and P2 uses the numpad for directions and arrow keys for buttons (?)

Change these values with DirectInput hexadecimal key codes ( for example https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/DIK_KeyCodes))
I changed P1 to C8 D0 CD CB 1F 20 2D 2E to play with arrow keys and S, D, X, C buttons. Also changed P2's arrow keys to something else to avoid conflicts.

[Anonymous No.10279267]

>>10279237
>By default P1 is T, B,H,F, A,S, Z,X and P2 uses the numpad for directions and arrow keys for buttons (?)
The same control scheme as in PC-98 games. While I could understand that on NEC's platform oi me amiger has the same problem, but they shouldn't have any excuse to not enable custom key mapping on an IBM PC compatible. Anon, you could drop an IPS patch while we're at it, it would be very appreciated. Here's more Yuka, by the way.

[Anonymous No.10279484]

>>10279267
I noticed the line right below looked a lot like the codes I used so I investigated further. And it turns out the devs had a configuration file that has more settings than the config menu.
Create a text file called CommandVGM.txt in the System folder of VGMax.
In this file just write the following line:
KeyBordOffset TRUE

Other commands include
"EroEro0 TRUE" up to "EroEro9 TRUE" to unlock gallery scenes
"ScreenMode Window" for windowed mode (a bit iffy on Windows 10)

Well, an IPS of my modified exe would do less than this simple trick

[Anonymous No.10279524]

>>10278490
>To run the game, you'll need some kind of virtual machine, as this game won't run on modern versions of Windows.
Is this true?

[Anonymous No.10279797]

>>10277360
>And if they do, they should include clothing damage as an option.
This is the best bet. Frankly the original way the games worked, where the losers just kinda appear naked because that's the price of losing wasn't the most elegant way to include the content. Realistic clothing damage can be done today.

[Anonymous No.10279976]

>>10278672
Between Yuka, Akira, and the purple-haired clone of Yuka just shows how perfect the design really is and I love it. Kimura-sensei was one of my most favorite character designers of the time which knew my sensibilities.

[Riki No.10280185]

>>10279976
Keyed

[Anonymous No.10280792]

What's Erina's restaurant base on, anyway? They don't have casinos in Nippon.
Also doesn't Manami tease her about Yuka's knockers being bigger in AVG2? Even though... they're not?

[Anonymous No.10280974]

>>10278490
VG custom is a remake of VG2 and for windows PC. But it's absolutely awful. worse then the Pc-98 versions. It does have the VG2 scenes minus a few characters, fully voiced. so if you needed voices for the VG2 scenes it provides. but good luck getting it to work.

[Anonymous No.10281250]

>>10279524
I just tried on a Windows 7 machine (horribly outdated I know. Steam will stop working in 3 months) And it launched no problem.
The only issue so far is that the colors are glitched on some sprites, but its not the end of the world. Perfectly playable
I tried setting compat with Win98, ME, XP, 256 colors, etc and nothing worked.

>>10279976
Marbeltop Anon, you don't happen to have the 2nd PC-98 game do you? [Variable Geo 2 - The Bout of Cabalistic Goddess]. I have the scans of the manual of the 1st game but I haven't seen the manual for the 2nd game around.

[Anonymous No.10281283]

>>10280974
On top of that, Custom also removes the super meter despite visually based on AVG2.

[Anonymous No.10281384]

>>10280974
>VG custom is a remake of VG2 and for windows PC. But it's absolutely awful.
AFAIK they brought assets from various games in the series and shoved them all in this game, as if it was a MUGEN-based amateurish game.

>>10281250
I use Win7 myself and when trying to launch the game I get some error message and that's it.
>The only issue so far is that the colors are glitched on some sprites, but its not the end of the world.
Well shit, I just need to take several screenshots of this one.

[Anonymous No.10281423]

>>10280792
It's called 'The Rival' and was based on a real life Western casino themed restaurant. All of Variable Geo's restaurants were based on real life restaurants. You can read more about it on Japanese wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.10281446]

>>10277968
It had all of that. As time moves forward more and more of them are lost. Search engines push rarely accessed content further and further out of relevancy until it all but disappears.

When I die my collection of Variable Geo merchandise and knowledge of the series will disappear as well.

It falls on consumers, not companies, to curate and share with each other what they can.

[Anonymous No.10281449]

>>10281384
That error seems to look like you aren't running your Windows in japanese locale. Back in the day you had to do some wierd stuff for WinXP to launch eroge but in Win7 I think just changing this is enough.
Region and Language:
Format - Japanese
Location - Japan
Keyboards and Languages / Choose a display language - English
If that doesn't do it, maybe you are lacking some update, my Win7 has every update offered on the update thingy.

>>10280792
>>10281423
The "VariableGeo Visual Collection Pictures" has some nice concept art of the locations used in the OVA.

[Anonymous No.10281829]

>>10281449
>That error seems to look like you aren't running your Windows in japanese locale.
Ah yes, just as I suspected. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10281886]

>>10277163
CERO is like this now because they gave too much freedom to feminists

>>10277679
the "sequel" never went forward with Yuka getting fucked and from what is said, it didn't sold well either because they didn't all the way in with the eroge.

If anything lilith needs to buy the IP

[Anonymous No.10281931]

>>10280185
Locked?

>>10281250
No, I'd love to give PC-98 a try but all I have for home computers of the series are the screen savers. Sorry I couldn't help.

[Anonymous No.10282157]

>>10281931
You don't know how to play PC 98 games on PC using one of its two available emulators?

[Anonymous No.10283391]

>>10282157
he show off why would you have the expectation the guy plays games

[Anonymous No.10283514]

Why has NO ONE tried to make a new bento shojo fighting game but with good gameplay?

[Anonymous No.10283971]

>>10283514
Because a good fighting game is not easy to make and the ultimate goal is to enter the esports world, Evo doesn't want anything pretty looking because of retarded reasons.

[Anonymous No.10284457]

>>10281931
i thought it was neat
dont know much about it other than diddling until game over screens on pc engine\saturn

[Anonymous No.10284494]

>>10283971
>and the ultimate goal is to enter the esports world
This attitude has been nothing short of a cancer for every genre it touched

[Anonymous No.10285084]

>>10278493
I knew it accepted gamepad, it plays really nice like that, too bad the Xbox controller defaults to using the sticks instead of the pad.

>>10278490
> I heard that game was actually developed by people who would later make the Under Night games but I don't know if it's true

Just replayed it, and it is true! At least the main programmers and one of the sprite artists, which is the meat of the game. Checked with credits on Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late
No wonder the game is so good, You can keep playing and keep discovering new things, like special cancel into EX and even Super, or you can faint a high jump by tapping down, then up, but letting go of up really fast.

>>10280974
Checked it and just from the opening movie it feels like GIGA boss sent his nephew to cobble up a game

[Anonymous No.10285570]

>>10285084
>inb4 UNIEL devs work on a Variable Geo remake

[Anonymous No.10286530]

Post more Yuka

[Anonymous No.10286728]

>>10281931
>>10282157
>Gay validation seeker doesn't know how to emulate, read Japanese, or play any of the games he collects.
You're a fucking idiot and I hope a native Japanese beats you unconscioius with a sock full pachinko balls on your way back from the shopping district.

[Anonymous No.10286826]

Somewhat related: does anyone have footage of the Anna Miller’s Japanese restaurants and the waitresses in their uniforms? YouTube only shows me the Hawaii one and the only one concerning the Japanese locations was outside shots of the last one that closed recently.

[Anonymous No.10288208]

Bump for interest

[Anonymous No.10288592]

>>10286530

[[e-mail] No.10288909]

>>10281446
>When I die my collection of Variable Geo merchandise and knowledge of the series will disappear as well.
>It falls on consumers, not companies, to curate and share with each other what they can.
Posts like this make me wince, not because of some secondhand coomer cringe but because this fun little moments these niche games could provide. It reminds me of finding a friend group in high school because I brought a Neo Geo I found at a flea market to an anime convention and how much joy it all brought. For what it's worth, anon, I'd be your friend and document everything about these games, especially if no one else has. Why? Because my wife and I found the VG OVA in a hentai box we bought from a Half Price Books the day we got married and it was one of our favorites.

[Anonymous No.10289301]

>>10288592
I love her big eyebrows

[Anonymous No.10289305]

>>10277272
The genital mosaic law

[Anonymous No.10289753]

When I set to do this Variable Geo collage I noticed the pantsu being gone from later releases. Just how harsh did CERO become in Japan?
(First two PC98 games and VGMax aren't scaled, the rest are all x2 resolution)

And while I was lamenting the lack of pantsu I noticed that by practicing combos in Advanced VG2 for 2 hours, the flashing super meter bar on both lower sides of the game left my LG monitor with permanent bars on the screen completely stuck flickering WTF. Can't trust crap built these days.

[Anonymous No.10289795]

Tamao's sprites are so cute in VG Max.

[Anonymous No.10289982]

>>10282157
I can't afford a PC at this time. So I have not tried yet.

>>10284457
I actually thing the games are so-so with the exception of 2 and Max, which play great. Admittedly I was interested in the games because of the beautiful character designs that appeal to me.

>>10286728
This is why I post here. The comedy gets me through the day.

[Anonymous No.10289996]

>>10289753
is it just missing v.g. custom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4Y61uLejg

also does anyone have links for max and custom?
i've heard one is hard to get running or has pallet issues or something

[Anonymous No.10290265]

>>10289753
Oh crap I knew I would make a mistake, I put the zoomed out screenshot on Advanced VG2, fixed now.

>>10289996
I put all the games I have in that screenshot. I'm missing V.G Custom, and after what the anons here told me and checking it, I have very low desire to go looking for it.
It really is cobbled together from other games, besides being lame, it would look the same since it re-uses sprites.

>also does anyone have links for max and custom?
>i've heard one is hard to get running or has pallet issues or something

Yeah we actually talked about it in this thread, read above. Check Internet Archive, as for the colors I heard DxWnd helps.

[Anonymous No.10290448]

Kimura really was the perfect character designer for this. His shit is made for porn

[Anonymous No.10290668]

>>10286530
Here you go. Never enough Yuka!

>>10289753
>Just how harsh did CERO become in Japan?
It's more like Sony, Sega and their licensing rules. NEC didn't shy away from pantsu or even stronger stuff for their CD add-on.
>And while I was lamenting the lack of pantsu
Coomer.

>>10289795
She IS cute, period.

>>10289982
>I can't afford a PC at this time.
C'mon marble top anon... You can affort all this shit you show off every now and then but not even the most basic PC?? You're kidding, right? Phoneposting all this time?? Sheesh...

[Anonymous No.10290793]

>>10290668
>affort
afford... goddamn typo

[Anonymous No.10291742]

>>10289795
Nice sprite sheet, where did you get that one? It's not on spriters resource at least.

Looking at the PC-98 scenes, being low resolution and pixel perfect makes them excellent candidates for decensoring. But it's lame that I can't even post the edits here because of the whole blue board thing.

>>10274267
I had actually never checked Variable Geo Neo until now. Why on earth does the description of the game keeps saying "going back to its fighting tournament roots"
I thought it was another fighting game, but it's a visual novel. No wonder I could never find gameplay.
If you search for Variable Geo Neo, all you get is just the opening from the game and scenes from that OVA that looks awful like it had no budget.

[Anonymous No.10292542]

>>10291742
>Looking at the PC-98 scenes, being low resolution and pixel perfect makes them excellent candidates for decensoring.
Aren't these uncensored in the first place? AFAIK only the Saturn version have humiliation scenes intact.
>Why on earth does the description of the game keeps saying "going back to its fighting tournament roots". I thought it was another fighting game, but it's a visual novel. No wonder I could never find gameplay.
Because it is a visual novel eroge with rock-paper-scissors "fights" or something like that, no proper fighting game gameplay. Also the art style sucks, the roster is all-new and uninspired. In short - V.G. Neo, both the game and OVA, suck.

[Anonymous No.10292578]

>>10291742
>Nice sprite sheet, where did you get that one?
Thanks, I ripped it myself from the Tamao.dat file.
I was trying to figure out their file format and the sprite part is pretty simple, now to find out the frame data format. I'll clean up the empty spaces first and will post them on spriter resources or sprite db.

There's a gallery with all the .img files (CGs, all UI elements, even dialogs) on e-hentai, btw.

[Anonymous No.10292704]

>>10292578
We'll appreciate these. Also I kek'd hard at the placeholder/template or whatever it is in Jun's spritesheet.

[Anonymous No.10292723]

>>10292542
>Aren't these uncensored in the first place? AFAIK only the Saturn version have humiliation scenes intact.
I meant the PC-98 sex scenes that have the genital area pixelated (well more pixelated than the usual PC-98 pic) due to Japanese law. I can't show them well here but there are 2 defeat pictures for every character on the first game, and 3 for each character on the second PC-98 game. Those can be easily decensored with any PC-98 friendly pixel image editor (to stay in the color limit / dither pattern)
By the way, the pictures used in the Saturn version are just the 1st of the 3 defeat CGs and they are heavily altered. For example on Saturn Kaori falls in a vat of water (?) and that's it, on PC-98 she falls in a vat of white cream (?) then 2nd pic is her in all fours, then 3rd pic is her getting splashed by cream on her face. So I wouldn't call the Saturn scenes intact.

>>10292578
>There's a gallery with all the .img files (CGs, all UI elements, even dialogs) on e-hentai, btw.
Yeah I checked that one and saw that there was everything ripped, from CGs, random scenes, each characters background and even all of the game text, but it was missing the character sprites themselves.
Would be awesome if you could upload them, those sprites are lovely.

[Anonymous No.10292826]

>>10292723
>So I wouldn't call the Saturn scenes intact.
Dammit, I didn't mean that, I'd rather write that the scenes were "retained, but censored" or something like that. I really act like a retard sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10292887]

>>10290448

[Anonymous No.10292961]

>>10292826
kid, are you a dummie?

[Anonymous No.10293019]

>>10292961
Nah, just tired recently, I think. First I made a dumb typo, then I completely posted not what I really thought. I need to get some good rest and a break from 4chins.

[Anonymous No.10293123]

>>10290448
Kimura was the one of the best Japanese character designers period.
RIP King.

[Anonymous No.10293243]

>>10293123
>Get to remake Dirty Pair in your image. Reremake them again for your own porn series.
Living the dream

[Anonymous No.10293282]

>>10284494
exactly

[Anonymous No.10293294]

>>10290448
>always wondered what he looks like
>look up a picture of him
Man is a king of fapbait but jesus, for some reason I always thought he looked more like Kawamori than Tomino

[Anonymous No.10294480]

Didn't this ROM circulate as "Super Virgin Girls" for years?

[Anonymous No.10294545]

>>10294480
I don't know, but V.G. doesn't just stand for "Variable Geo" c'mon Japanese people, why do you stick two random irrelevant words together as a title of video game/anime and call it a day??, but "Virgin Godess" - the title awarded to the winner of the tournament.
>>10293243
>Get to remake Dirty Pair
Some random bunnygirl on a flyer looks almost like Elirin. That was in the episode with that Tokyo theme park city.

[Anonymous No.10294884]

>>10294545
I never watched Flash because I love the 80s versions too much. Maybe I'll change that someday.

[Anonymous No.10295150]

>>10294884
Do it, it might not be as legendary as the original series, but it's just as good, thanks to Kimura-san. Unpopular opinion: I prefer DPF Yuri to the original one because of the art style alone.

[Anonymous No.10295364]

>>10290265
I actually have a patch someone made years ago for custom that fixes a lot of the sprite issues. is there anywhere I can upload and link here that doesn't cause the spam filter to block posting?

[Anonymous No.10295696]

>>10295364
I'm a shitter for file sharing services but I'll gladly bump as a sign of support. I'd like to archive it alongside some of my other weird stuff like Robopon manga scans.

[Anonymous No.10295708]

>>10293243
Oh, I wondered why Kei and Yuri looked so familiar when I watched Flash. Had no idea the designer was the same guy as this.

Also here, pic related was a pretty big model of Kei and Yuri from a model exhibit near Osaka back in August, was surprised to see them there.

[Anonymous No.10295801]

>>10295696
every robopon manga has been scanned now btw
and translation has started on mangadex

[Anonymous No.10295823]

>i had vg max, vg custom and the vg pallet fix all along

[Anonymous No.10295838]

>>10295801
Speaking of manga, did anyone scan the manga that came with Perfect Collection? Though it was apparently a yonkoma collection of some sort.

[Anonymous No.10295856]

>>10295838
uhh i own everything robopon
what was it exactly?
or just a link to the sales page

[Anonymous No.10295885]

>>10295838
>>10295856
oh, you probably meant this
https://e-hentai.org/g/1671568/fd614e8a67/

[Anonymous No.10295909]

This is such an amazing picture. I think a lot of times people don't understand it's not just about the nudity. Modern hentai is too on the nose and doesn't give a shit about conveying anything about the characters. You need to feel something first.

[Anonymous No.10296446]

>>10286728
Coomlectors are mentally ill hoarders
This is known

[Anonymous No.10296453]

>>10295909
look man i like video games and anime as much as the next anon but i can't get into being this balls deep into something where i'm supposed to drool over this image with you

[Anonymous No.10296461]

>>10295909
Not a fan of the art style
Looks dated and cheap

[Anonymous No.10296601]

>>10294884
Flash is cool once you get off the NOT MUHs. I actually wish they got to do more episodes. 16 episodes isn't bad for an OVA really but I'd have liked to have seen more or a movie or something.

[Anonymous No.10296978]

>>10295909
This is actually the PS1 cover, when they were forced to cut down the lewds (and focus to be a fighter first).

[Anonymous No.10297201]

>>10296461
>Looks dated and cheap
Tasteless faggot. (You)r mom is dated and cheap.

[Anonymous No.10297272]

Man, fuck amyloidosis. RIP Kimura

Here, have a rare error Yuka, she appears on the PC-Engine version when you put the Advanced V.G. CD in but you don't have the required System Card expansion or the more modern PC-Engine versions.

>>10295823
>i had vg max, vg custom and the vg pallet fix all along
How is the VG Pallet fix called so we can search around?

[Anonymous No.10297536]

>>10297272
Nevermind I just checked Internet Archive and there it was [V.G Custom] It came with a patch as well an alternate exe already patched.
The game runs instantly on my Win7 machine. It just sometimes gives WAV resource error when loading some stages, but if you click ok it just keeps working like nothing.
There is also an issue with the menu and intro talk screens being in one resolution and the actual game in another lower one.

What a bad game, the physics of jumping / hitting / knowdowns are so bad. Combos that worked in other games don't work at all here.
Yuka's fireball doesn't have a proper cooldown, if you are max screen away you can throw another after a long time, but if you are close to the enemy you can just spam another one after the fireball left the screen, for mega spam.
The AI is also bad, for example the bonus fight after the last enemy for Yuka is Tamao. So the programmers said "ok lets make her do her anti air when the player jumps at her" but made it that if you jump in place or even back with a kick, she still does her anti air trying to counter you. So you just jump back kick and spam fireball for perfect wins.

>>10281283
>On top of that, Custom also removes the super meter
I thought the game didn't have supers but the CPU does them and you can do them in practice mode. How to know when you can actually super if you have no bar?
The game uses a system like King Of Fighters '94 where if you are low energy you can spam supers all day long, in this case after you get to the 2nd bar. And if you get to the last third or so of your 2nd bar you can do the Special Super, also being able to spam it infinitely. That means Yuka full screen laser beam forever, pretty busted.

At least the intro animations are the same PC-98 ones before they were digitzed, you can even see the marks of the color pencils Kimura used.

[Anonymous No.10297869]

>kimura thread
>it's a bunch of newbies encountering information for the first time that I've already known about since thirty years ago
big yawn

For a limited time only I will grace you subhumans with my presence and for the remaining duration of this thread answer any questions you may have of my saint Kim(whom I've met personally while he was promoting Gun X Sword during a tour of the US) and any series he has worked on including but not limited to Variable Geo, Viper, Ano Machi, On Air, Harlem Blade, I swear to God you all don't know important this man was to the Japanese economy when Code Geass was running he could basically crash its GDP with a single bad episode and an entire generation of Japanese youth was shaped by him too, no this isn't an understatement JUST LOOK AT THE INTRO TO GAOGAIGAR, LOOK AT IT. THIS INSPIRED AN ENTIRE GENERATION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7UjDcwUltw

WHEN A MATH STUDENT WAS GETTING BEAT UP IN AN ALLEY HE'D RECITE THE INTRO TO GAOGAIGAR AND SOMEHOW COULD FEEL NO PAIN AND SMASHED THEIR FACES IN AND THEN PUKED AND PASSED OUT IN A WOMAN'S RESTROOM WHERE HE MET HIS FUTURE WIFE AND

YOU THINK ANYONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR STREET FIGHTER CLONE FULL OF FAST FOOD TEA AND SANDWICH SERVING HOES WHEN THIS MAN WAS IN THE TRENCHES LITERALLY DESTROYING OPPOSING SERIES THAT DARED TO SHARE THAT SAME TIMESLOT WHILE INFUSING NIHONJIN WITH A BRAVERY, A FIRE OF THE HEART THAT COULD NOT BE EXTINGUISHED?

THE MAN MADE ANIME FOR CHILDREN. HE MADE ANIME FOR TEENAGERS. HE MADE ANIME FOR MEN. THOSE CHILDREN GREW UP AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF TODAY'S POPULAR ANIME.

And a lot of you English-only apes think that *tee hee*, this quirky waitress game sugoi. *hee hee* my ochinchin big when viper *haha* as this man was literally bleeding on the page and breaking off pieces of his soul to get Iron Blooded Orphans out on time.

[Anonymous No.10297892]

>>10297869
>half of the post is CAPS LOCK MUFFUGAS
calm down, fag

[Anonymous No.10298219]

>>10297869
OP literally says "Variable Geo thread", sperg.

[Anonymous No.10298659]

>game is called variable geo
>the backgrounds never change that much

[Anonymous No.10299209]

>>10297869
Based pre-2000s /a/poster

[Anonymous No.10299309]

>>10295885
Saw that. Actually I was thinking of the Compilation Comix - someone on the Sogna forums did scan them but the scans are now lost.

[Anonymous No.10299740]

>>10297869
Get off the phone grandpa!

[Anonymous No.10300924]

>>10299209
The /a/ stands for Australia

[Anonymous No.10301146]

>>10298659
Moron

[Anonymous No.10301160]

>>10290265
>>10289753
Never knew that VG2 on the PC-98 looked so good.

[Anonymous No.10302185]

The best thing that came out of the franchise was the PC-98 arrange of the OST of AVG2
https://youtu.be/9bNLuasMqcg?si=GjkxFS1xXi1iFRNh&t=81

[Anonymous No.10303675]

Would having the Ikki Tousen staff at the helm of a potential Variable Geo remake reinject the soul back?

[Anonymous No.10303694]

>>10302185
C'mon anon, AVG2 is also good on its own, and is the only worthwile game in the series as a whole. Even the normal arcade mode is fun enough although Satomi's AI is way too predictable with her constantly spamming Shinkuu Karatakewari jumping attack, which allows the player to combo her from behind as she lands time and time again until time runs out or she's K.O.'d. I've played the normal mode with all the characters and my favorite is of course Yuka, being a decent shoto-clone, with Tamao and Kaori close second. The worst? Pic related I hate Manami so much that I use her as a punching bag in practice mode - there's nothing more relaxing than landing combos on an annoying catgirl and listen to her "nya" in pain.

[Anonymous No.10306098]

>>10301160
There were maestros of 16 colors graphics in the mid 90s. Ningyou Tsukai 2 is another example of a game that looks (and plays) far better than the first opus.

[Anonymous No.10306291]

>>10301160
>VG2 on the PC-98 looked so good
Yeah, the pixel art and static character artworks are good and great respectively... until the game proper starts and this impression falls apart. Maybe it's just me, but action games on PC-98 have awful animation... for the most part, at least.

[Anonymous No.10307245]

Hey, anon. Going to the cafeteria all alone?!

[Anonymous No.10307378]

>>10306291
More Erina please <3

[Anonymous No.10307615]

>>10307245
Moar of these upscaled pics, please.

>>10307378
That's all I've got, anon.

[Anonymous No.10308163]

>>10301160
>>10306291
Damn I'm clueless about compression, it looks terrible in webm under 4MB, here is the original video.
https://files.catbox.moe/ofunce.mp4
Interestingly you can just super right from the start of the match, no super meter or flashing red life needed.

[Anonymous No.10308767]

>>10274213
Im not crying

[Anonymous No.10308784]

Kimura characters usually look too much the same. The Glasses one is just green Kaori and also that little girl from Brigadoon.

[Anonymous No.10308982]

>>10307245
Nice clean png pic there anon, where did you get that one?
The "[GIGA]VariableGeo Visual Collection Pictures" has a bunch of those pics but very compressed in jpeg. I can't seem to find a better version around, unless that other anon is right and it's AI upscaled?

[Anonymous No.10309970]

>>10308982
>unless that other anon is right and it's AI upscaled?
It's a picture from in-game cutscene upscaled with an AI upscaler. At first I thought it was the original artwork that was later put into the game.

Also here's some Reimi, her seyiuu celebrated 58th birthday two days ago

[Anonymous No.10310360]

>>10299309
Self-reply: I did find it somewhere on archive.org, only to learn it was lewd stuff.

[Anonymous No.10310382]

>>10310360
>only to learn it was lewd stuff.
Bruh, the PC games in the series are lewd, what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.10311067]

>>10310360
Which one were you talking about? Because there are two that I know of.
"[Anthology] Comic V.G.-Max" from 1994-11-01 Where there is a lot of sex and semi explicit stuff, the one where Jun actually fucks Terry Bogard and there is also a wierdo story about plants cloning the girl fighters?
Or "Variable Geo 2 - Comic Anthology" from 1995-04-01 where there is just mild nudity at most, with most of the stories ending with just torn clothes?

By the way the first one has really nice guest art by Masami Obari.

[Anonymous No.10311478]

>>10290668
Have you seen to price they command for modern motherboards with less features than from long ago? Most the games I have were stuff I kept from long ago from bargain bins. The most compute I do have is from a Chinese dumphone I post from.

>>10295150
>>10295708
>>10296601
Me too, I prefer Flash over the original mainly because of Kimura-sensei's art. He really does know what appeals to me, and Flash Kei got it going on for me.

[Anonymous No.10311497]

>>10308784
>>10308982
Kek at the file names.

>>10311478
>Have you seen to price they command for modern motherboards with less features than from long ago?
Dude, I know these are fucked up times, but you don't really need a super duper computer. Back in 2017 I told my friend who's a hardcore PC nerd to assembly a mid-end setup for me and he did so, the resulting cost wasn't that high, really. And I had to do something because my laptop from 2008 was fucking dying and taking forever to boot.
>Most the games I have were stuff I kept from long ago from bargain bins.
Those must have been hell of a bargains, then. Some of the stuff you show here on /vr/ was sought after even ten years ago, so I don't entirely believe you on this one.
>He really does know what appeals to me, and Flash Kei got it going on for me.
He was good at drawing pretty women, and even if they're sameface-y, it's still better sameface than Toriyama's. And for me, it's Flash Yuri..

[Anonymous No.10311612]

>>10311478
Ohh nice boxed Super Variable Geo, does it come with a lovely illustrated manual? Would it be too much ask if you could take a picture of it, just to know how it looks (not asking for scans or anything fancy) I'll understand if you don't want to even open the box so as to not to damage it further.
Finding scanned manuals is a bit hard, unless it's stuff from Sega, those Sega-retro guys are amazing.

I stitched the Obari guest art from the Anthology, peak 90s power there.

[Riki No.10312136]

>>10311612
SOVL

[Anonymous No.10312153]

>>10311497
I've been looking for a 1080ti, but they are all over $100USD. Most are cheap stuff, from junk and clearance bins, but some were just stuff that had my interest that I made the effort to get. I didn't really get the appeal of the Dirty Pair series, but I just knew the aesthetic of the Flash OVAs was very attention grabbing.

>>10311612
The cover of the manual is the same as the box cover art, so here you can see it has nice color art inside the booklet too. I like that pic as well, saving it, we'll trade pics.

[Anonymous No.10312617]

>>10312153
>PROFIRE
God, I love Engrish. Double funny since Satomi can indeed manipulate fire.

[Anonymous No.10313626]

>>10312153
Absolutely gorgeous, much appreciated. I love game manuals like you wouldn't believe.
From time to time I open my Gameboy boxes and check the manuals, it used to let my imagination fly in contrast to the very pixelated images of the actual game.
I regret not starting collecting this stuff earlier, nowadays the prices are completely moronic.

[Anonymous No.10313693]

necvrobump