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10260215 No.10260215 [Reply] [Original]

What did SEGA do that Ninten-didn't?

>> No.10260217

>>10260215
Went out of the console business

>> No.10260240

>>10260215
Racing games, nindildo have nothing except gay mario cart

>> No.10260242

be a bunch of annoying faggots

>> No.10260247

emulated better without slowdowns and speedhacks

>> No.10260265

>>10260215
Allow Americans to drive the console side of their business into the ground 3 gens in a row

>> No.10260273

>>10260215
Created an Australian transvestite.

>> No.10260274

Sell home compuers in New Zealand

>> No.10260279

invent furries

>> No.10260303

>>10260215
Go bankrupt

>> No.10260417

>>10260279
But Disney invented furries!

>> No.10260421

>>10260240
Boy, it sure is selective memories around here

>> No.10260483

>>10260217
/bread

>> No.10260490

>>10260215
Fail. Also all the other things mentioned ITT. There was some nice stuff. But in the end they just screwed the pooch too many times.

>> No.10260521

>>10260240
There were loads, you fool. These are just the SNES games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuwfcyxDYFA
Is there a genre of game that would better showcase Mode 7? Of course not.

>> No.10260523

>>10260217
too soon

>> No.10260540

>>10260215
They did everything better on the hardware expansion front. It was all either just too expensive or too late.

>> No.10260643

Generally just threw lots of shit at all wall. Some of it stuck. A lot of it didn't.

>> No.10260791

>>10260215
Best shootemups, beatemups, action games and sports games of the generation, although Sega made sure that all the popular genres were available on their consoles. Games like Phantasy Star 4, Sonic 3 & Knuckles or Shining Force 2 are strong contenders for the title of best 16 bits game of their respective genres.

>> No.10260807

They made performant hardware that could play cutting-edge games without expensive expansion hardwares.
>SMS
Much faster CPU, better colour capabilities, did not need expansion chips in nearly every single game unlike the NES.
>Game Gear
Colour capabilities that still exceeded the Game Boy Colour from nearly a decade later.
>Mega Drive
3 times faster CPU, higher resolution than the 2 years newer and more expensive SNES.
>Saturn
Better texturing capabilities, parallel processing, and no RAM bottlenecks; many times more games at a smooth 60 FPS compared the 2 years newer N64.
>Dreamcast
Better lighting capabilities as demonstrated in Sonic Adventure among others.

>> No.10260861

>>10260215
sega was created by a group of american jews and yakuza

>> No.10260870
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>>10260215
>>10260217
Still in the arcade business

>> No.10260873

>>10260215
Who’s the character so I can at least hit rule34, Goddamit

>> No.10261049 [DELETED] 

>>10260873
I had to ask /r/ for help finding it last night. Artist is Teku and it has a dick.

>> No.10261053

>>10260873
I had to ask /r/ for help finding it last night. Artist is Teku and it has a dick, thread is still up on /r/ >>19080355

>> No.10261135

>>10260807
>SMS
Gaudy color selection, having to get up to pause the game, Colecovision sound hardware unless you magically had an expanded system from Japan in the late 80s
>Game Gear
Hey let's shove a SMS in a small box with a shitty portable TV LCD and high voltage CFL ballast and give it more colors than our current home system, what can go wrong
>Mega Drive
1988 hardware that was already starting to age badly by early 1993, don't even have to bring the expansions or SoA going full retard with manufacturing up
>Saturn
Nothing but bad calls on hardware design, even worse calls on global marketing, and good job alienating all of Europe by 1997
>Dreamcast
Released too early, fucked up hard with MIL-CD, focused more on arcade gaming when arcades were dying out, wound up getting assimilated into the Xbox camp where it actually worked out until the cawadooty era arrived

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>>10260217

>> No.10261198

>>10260870
So Sega is a necromancer

>> No.10261326

>>10260215
Made fanbois cope. See >>10260807

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>>10260217
I did not see that coming

>> No.10261512

>>10260217
>>10260483
>>10260523
>>10261191
>>10261464
We did it reddit!

>> No.10261517

>>10260215
All of their consoles had less buttons than the competition.

>> No.10261531
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>>10260217
Sega widows absolutely btfo'd

>> No.10261537

>>10260215
FM

>> No.10261556

>>10260215
Mature uncensored games.

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10261583

>>10261512

>> No.10261803

>>10261531
Kek. It's too bad they all turned into xdressers instead of 42%ing like Sega did. Now we still have to deal with their seething

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>>10260215
It's Genesis, Genesis does what Nintendon't

https://youtu.be/k7nsBoqJ6s8

The term still applies to SEGA in general, but it was meant for the Genesis

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>>10260215
>What did SEGA do that Ninten-didn't?
A backlit screen on a handheld, in 1990. I know it sucked on the battery front because of it, but it's ridiculous how it took 13 years for Nintendo, the technology was already there and, by 1998 with the GBC, or 2001 with the OG GBA, they could've done it. I'd rather play for 3 hours on a decently lit screen of a Game Gear, then for 20 hours on a screen that's a chore to even see like GBC/GBA.

>> No.10263360

>>10261583
>posts wojak
I rest my case.

>> No.10263367

>>10260215
Had a much more exciting, arcade style design philosophy that made for better games and cooler aesthetics.

>> No.10263387

>>10262057
Correct. I think Nintendrones still seeth over the "Genesis Does" commercial because it was an ad attacking Nintendo. They can't let it go, even though nowadays Sega & Nintendo get along just fine.

>> No.10263561

>>10263387
Facts!

/thread

>> No.10263612

>>10263387
>get along just fine.
having sega games on nintendo console is ultimate cuckoldry
it's one thing when you emulating on pc... completely fucked up if you releasing on competitor console

>> No.10263623

>>10263367
It's really crazy how much damage Nintendo started to do to game design starting with the SNES

>> No.10263690

>>10263612
Sega was releasing games on Nintendo long before they stopped making consoles completely. So it's not really "cuckoldry", as it is maximizing their profits on more popular consoles, especially during the NES days when the SMS wasn't doing well in North America. Also they were releasing games on the PS2 & Xbox in 2001, which is exactly what a third party developer would do.

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10263698

>irrelevant time wasting question
>coomer OP
>console war garbage
>wojak posting
It's like I really am on /v/

>> No.10263710

>>10263698
You are making this thread worse and moreso than any other poster in this thread.

>> No.10263718

>>10263623
I have to laugh any time someone insists the SNES is the "greatest console ever". It wasn't even better than the Mega Drive. It wasn't even good.

>> No.10263721

>>10263710
You forgot your crying wojak

>> No.10263731

>>10263698
I think it's clear this board is being used as a test to transition into being the new /v/ while /v/ has become the new /b/ 2.0 with vidya since 2010 or so. /b/ lost its purpose long ago and is just another /r/ and /trash/.
IDK how this'll fair in the future if it also seeks to drive out oldfag users annoyed with the obnoxiously low quality threads/posters.

>> No.10263761

>>10263731
To add onto the last part, it's similar to /v/, in that the board has a number of low quality "cannon fodder" threads that don't seek to have any discussion where anyone can join to shitposting/flamewar in, while the makeshift generals and niche topics are generally left alone with their own brand of autism. I feel 5th gen being the cutoff point gate kept a LOT of newfags and Zoomers because the timeframe, history and topics surrounding said gen and below are just that uninteresting enough opposed to the current gen topics unless you're a retro enthusiast.

>> No.10263770

>>10260215
have actual yamaha synthesis built into their machine

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>>10263770
you shoulda added
>as opposed to glorified sampler

>> No.10263891

>>10263761
Yeah, allowing only up to 5th gen gatekept a lot of users as early 3d was janky and required you to have at least somewhat of an appreciation for games that were a product of their time, and although 8-bit/16-bit games are somewhat similar to the 2D games we see today, the vast majority of them are short experiences with a large emphasis on arcadeyness and having to manage lives/continues filters a lot of modern gamers. Its easy as hell for anybody to pick up a 6th gen game regardless of when they started gaming because early 3d jank was mostly ironed out by that point and games began to focus more on being lengthy "experiences" littered with checkpoints to be less punishing.
I guarantee you that there are a few people on this board who are only interested in 6th gen and MAYBE the occasional Nintendo platformer but nothing else. And I guess there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that, its just that before /vr/ used to be a place for people who loved retro games as a whole despite their weird quirks.

>> No.10263904

>>10263891
>to focus more on being lengthy "experiences"
so is this when it's safe to assume death of gaming?

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>>10263904

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>>10262057
>Santiago
Not retro, cunt.

>> No.10264156

>>10263891
>despite their weird quirks.
That's really the crux of it all in what gatekept most out of broader discussions and the board as a whole.
From my perspective, /vr/ is the more autistic of the vidya boards by way of topics revolving more around the hardware side of retro vidya on top of having a knowledgable history on the hobby, which a sizable chunk of /v/ boards can't hack that level of interest with this particular niche and allowing 6th gen seeks to disrupt that a bit, given that it's so close to 7th gen in terms of innovation, trends and shitposting (Dude bros, graphics whoring, Mature games for Mature gamers).
Not saying there AREN'T oldfags who'd like to discuss 6th gen proper, just that that particular era attracts a lot of...well, it's in that vein of what you said about "jank" being a part of gatekeeping, but in terms of general ease of entering discussions. It's not like /vr/ never had that type of low quality with vidya IPs (Zelda, Sonic, Mario -- Nintendo and Sega), but just that it's now at such a grander scale of more low quality. Zoomers definatly don't help the matter much either.

>> No.10264989

>>10261531
Imagine hating Sega for over 30 years, all because of a "Genesis Does" conmercial.

>> No.10265008

>>10264989
That's what mental illness does to a fanboy I guess. I'm glad there are some sane people like you & me who don't do this console war crap. I love owning both Sega & Nintendo consoles.

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>>10260417
>But Disney invented furries!

I want to say Max Fletcher did. Betty Boop was originally a dog. But who knows?

>>10261135
>>SMS
>Gaudy color selection, having to get up to pause the game, Colecovision sound hardware unless you magically had an expanded system from Japan in the late 80s
I mean the SMS was an extension of their older SG-1000 hardware. The SG-1000 was basically a Colecovision clone that was outdone by the Famicom a year later, and Sega updated the scrolling capabilities and a few other things to make the Mark III more competitive.
>>10261135
>>Game Gear
>Hey let's shove a SMS in a small box with a shitty portable TV LCD and high voltage CFL ballast and give it more colors than our current home system, what can go wrong

It's not a bad idea in theory. But battery life was a killer. When the system came out, it wasn't even the most advanced handheld, as the Lynx and the Turbo Express were also available.

>>10261135
>>Mega Drive
>1988 hardware that was already starting to age badly by early 1993, don't even have to bring the expansions or SoA going full retard with manufacturing up

I mean 1988 to 1993 is a five year gulf, which is about the time span when any console becomes outdated. You could make an argument that Nintendo sat on the SNES for a bit longer than expected, because when it launched in 1991 in NA and 1992 in other parts of the globe, the 3DO was released in 1993 as well as the Jaguar. 3DO and Jaguar had their own issues, but they were both 'next gen' compared to the SNES.

>>10261135
>>Dreamcast
>Released too early, fucked up hard with MIL-CD, focused more on arcade gaming when arcades were dying out, wound up getting assimilated into the Xbox camp where it actually worked out until the cawadooty era arrived

The Dreamcast tried to unify Sega's arcade games with their home console versions by using NAOMI arcade board. I love this console, and its arcade games. But yeah, arcade gaming wasn't the best selling point.

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>>10260217
ouch

>> No.10265338

>>10263061
Game Gear screen is barely visible, either, zoomie. There's a reason that both the Game Boy as well as the GG has a contrast wheel. But unlike with the Game Boy, the Game Gear's software library is 75% mediocre to shit.

>> No.10265342

>>10263690
>Nintendo helped kill Sega and is now paid homage to by Sega
>i-it's not a loss
This is cult/transphilia mentality you're displaying.