/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1025203]

Let's have a thread about old fighting games. It's amazing how many fighting games that capcom and SNK used to put out, and how well done they were. Post your favorite ones, see if you can get some matches going, or just reminisce.

[Anonymous No.1025212]

Also, if no one minds, I'm going to be dumping some cool posters a friend linked me.

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[Anonymous No.1025221]

RIP fatal fury. At least you went out with a bang.

[Anonymous No.1025231]

The old Jojo Fighting game was the first fighting game that I actually got into, learned and got good at. I've gotten pretty rusty, but it's fun jumping in the GGPO room every now and then and playing.

If you read Jojos, you will also notice that this poster was done in the style of part 5.

[Anonymous No.1025234]

The community is going strong too.

[Anonymous No.1025245]

>>1025234
One of my favorite posters.

[Anonymous No.1025261]

>>1025221

Mark of the wolves is when i started to hate SNK, at that point i was playing both Capcom VS SNK and Garou and CvS just blew it out of the water.

I was pretty mad that SNK still used that old engines and the sound is terrible.

After Garou SNK games were a wait and see thing for me, and not a day 1 purchase anymore.

[Anonymous No.1025263]

King of Fighter 98 is so popular on GGPO, they have three separate rooms for it. Rightfully so, it's one of the best iterations of the King of Fighters series.

[Anonymous No.1025264]

There was a time when Capcom ruled the arcades

[Anonymous No.1025279]

>>1025261
Personally, I think Garou is brilliant and has a lot of cool mechanics.

[Anonymous No.1025286]

I love this one.

[Anonymous No.1025287]

[Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin !IdiotA9Dgk No.1025290]

>>1025263
It's my favorite without a doubt. I've yet to find a single fighting game with a better balance to variety ratio. It is genius.

>>1025279
Garou suffers greatly from its tiny and rather stereotypical roster, I think.

[Anonymous No.1025294]

>>1025263
Anyoned played 98 Ultimate Match?

[Anonymous No.1025303]

>>1025294
I haven't but there was a rumor that King of Fighters 98UM and 2002UM were coming to steam.

[Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin !IdiotA9Dgk No.1025307]

>>1025294
Yes, and it's a little underwhelming. The redone backgrounds suck, the redone art isn't that great, the new interface style is horrid, the new music is abysmal, and the new characters fuck the balance over.
It's still '98 and it's still great, but the original remains the definitive version.

[Anonymous No.1025325]

Alpha 2 and 3 was pretty split in the community in terms of which one was better, but ultimately Alpha 3 won out in popularity.

[Anonymous No.1025331]

I've always wanted to give EX2 a try, I've heard really cool things about it.

[Anonymous No.1025346]

>>1025307
If you ignore Geese and Krauser, the balance is better than ever.

[Anonymous No.1025349]

Jin from Marvel vs Capcom is from this game, Cyberbots.

[Anonymous No.1025358]

Gotta love that 90's comic art. Also, this is the first Marvel fighting game, or should I say "Head-to-Head combat Action game"

[Anonymous No.1025368]

I've always liked Fatal Fury Special more than SF2. The engine just felt more intuitive and comfortable to me for some reason. Too bad the only people who play these old games know them inside out and will wreck your shit.

>>1025325
What does 2 have over 3?

>>1025358
That game was hilariously broken. Good fun.

[Anonymous No.1025374]

>>1025358
and this is the first game in the Vs. series!

>>1025368
2's Alpha counters were stronger than in 3, it doesn't have the infinite v-ism combos that 3 has, and you don't start the round with full meter.

Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. To be honest, I'm not too well versed in the Alpha games, but I know a few people who are and I am just repeating what they have told me about the subject.

[Anonymous No.1025391]

I think the award for "Fighting game character Sprite that has been reused the most" has to go to Morrigans sprite or she is at least a good contender.

[Anonymous No.1025404]

Despite being the most popular character in KoF, Iori was not introduced until KoF 95.

His theme is also my favorite character theme in any fighting game.

[Anonymous No.1025412]

>>1025404
Ironically, despite being introduced after Kyo, he had nearly the exact same movelist as him...and did everything better. Then *Kyo* had to go and change *his* movelist.

I'm still bitter.

[Anonymous No.1025420]

>>1025412
Hah! I didn't know that detail! Just goes to show the effects fan favorite characters can have have on a games development.

Something similar happened with KoF XIII. Iori had a different moveset than what he normally has, and fan backlash prompted 98 Iori to be available as a DLC character. At least I think that's how it went.

[Anonymous No.1025421]

>>1025221
Sequel when? ;_;

[Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin !IdiotA9Dgk No.1025428]

>>1025404
Eh, I like the '97 Kyo theme better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZTBiTssn18

>>1025412
Well, of course. They couldn't very well, have two identical characters, could they? Kyo had to change. I like his '98 moveset best, I think.
Besides, you can still use EX Kyo.

[Anonymous No.1025429]

>>1025358
Jim Lee during his Liefeld Style to >>1025374 Whoever drew this unique artstyle that was a combination of the Perez guy who drew the Titans in the 80s and anime

[Anonymous No.1025431]

>>1025421
Hopefully it will happen someday. I'm glad that they still use Fatal Fury characters in King of Fighters, so they haven't completely forgot about them.

Also, Wolverine is the only character to have been in every Marvel fighting game.

[Anonymous No.1025435]

>>1025421
>>1025431
There was an internet rumor of an unfinished SNK game being discovered in the wild that is supposedly an abandoned Mark of the Wolves 2.

[Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin !IdiotA9Dgk No.1025437]

>>1025431
Apparently, a Garou sequel was in the works circa 2003. I have no idea what happened to it.

[Anonymous No.1025445]

>>1025431
It was suffering to see Kain and Kagami just chilling in the background in one of the KoF XIII stages. Speaking of Kagami and games that will hopefully have a sequel someday, is there any hope for a new Last Blade game?

[Anonymous No.1025449]

>>1025445
I sure hope so, Anon. I sure hope so.

[Anonymous No.1025450]

>>1025437
>>1025435
I've heard about that supposedly it was actually pretty complete before SNK went bankrupt. Damn shame. Hopefully if it's true it will get dumped on the internet someday.

[Anonymous No.1025458]

Just found this.

[Anonymous No.1025459]

Although this was technically released in arcades Febuary 2000, it just barely tips over the line of 1999 so I'm sure that nobody will mind too much.

[Anonymous No.1025469]

>>1025458
Hah! That is very good.

[Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin !IdiotA9Dgk No.1025476]

>>1025458
Fucking brilliant.

[Anonymous No.1025484]

Karnovs Revenge and Breakers Revenge (>>1025287) both feature BALLOON.

[Anonymous No.1025496]

IN TEKKEN WE TRUST

[Anonymous No.1025504]

I wonder why Virtua Fighter never got that much love outside of Japan?

[Anonymous No.1025505]

>>1025421
You don't want that man.
It would be 3D and half of the characters would be DLC

[Anonymous No.1025508]

Both Tag games are awesome.

[Anonymous No.1025512]

I've only played Art of Fighting 2 once, and I remember the system being very weird.

[Anonymous No.1025514]

>>1025504
Virtua Fighter doesn't get much love in Japan, despite what Americans seem to want to believe. Hell, one of the three "bigger" VF arcades got rid of their VF5FR cabinets this month because they weren't bringing in people.

[Anonymous No.1025516]

>>1025514
Huh interesting. I always assumed that Virtua Fighter was one of those games that was just popular in Japan.

Also, here is the Fatal Fury Special poster that featured this (>>1025368) artwork.

[Anonymous No.1025518]

>>1025516
>assumed
This is a big problem with the fgc. They think japan is some magic land.
Japan has people bitching about wanting to make money just like America.
They have people who mash like all fuck.
They have people who complain about the above.
The game popularity is about on par percentage wise with how they are in the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.1025524]

>>1025518
Uh ok. Sorry if I struck a nerve.

Hayato from MvC2 came from this game, Star Gladiator.

[Anonymous No.1025541]

>>1025325
Alpha 3 felt completely different from 1 and 2. Really should have just been its own thing, but it was a damn fine game.

[Anonymous No.1025542]

I'm not sure which name I like better, Pocket Fighter or Super Gem Fighter: Mini Mix

[Anonymous No.1025551]

I loved the huge amount of variety and experimentation fighting games went through in the 90s to early 2000s. Not saying all fighters now play alike but they seem to focus more on appealing to tournament fans instead of coming up with crazy concepts like Red Earth or Jackie Chan's Fists of Fire.

[Anonymous No.1025558]

I played this one a few days ago. It's got a interesting system where you can copy an ability of the opponent you defeat. I don't think it's very good as a fighting game, but hell I had a lot of fun with it. My favorite copy ability is this one where you create this little mini version of yourself and it goes forward and starts attacking the other player autonomously.

Also, gotta love that 90s anime art.

[Anonymous No.1025569]

>>1025558
aaaaaaaaaaaah gowcaizer, the only reason why people got interested was Karin's and Shaia's Assssssssssssssssssets

[Anonymous No.1025572]

>>1025551
It's because the market for fighting games is significantly smaller than it used to be. Pure economics.

[Anonymous No.1025574]

>>1025551
Red Earth confused me for a long time, I thought it was just a beat-em-up but apparently it is a fighting game.

[Anonymous No.1025597]

>>1025574
An all-boss fighting game, even.

[Anonymous No.1025601]

I wish you could have just selected an assist in this game instead of having to hold down a weird button combination. Then again everyone just uses the Colossus assist so I guess it doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.1025625]

[Anonymous No.1025631]

This one is really weird. No personal experience with it, but I've seen some footage of it.

[Anonymous No.1025635]

>>1025631
The future is now in the past. Sad, in a way.

[Anonymous No.1025819]

>>1025558

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[Anonymous No.1025884]

I liked mugen, polite sage since most of its content us post-vr.

[Anonymous No.1025937]

>>1025279
>Real Bout 2
Can't believe people prefer Mark of the Wolves to this masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.1026342]

My old arcade used to have a Virtual On machine. They used to have lots of cool games before they got rid of a lot of them and became a ticket arcade.

[Anonymous No.1026385]

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[Anonymous No.1026450]

Gotta love Cyber-Akuma.

[Anonymous No.1026640]

>>1026385
>Tech Romancer
MAH NIGGA!

[Anonymous No.1026964]

>>1026450
You want to see a real Cyber Akuma, check Cyberbots on the Saturn.

>>1026640
Tech Romancer was tits but for some reason I always preferred Cyberbots to it. Maybe cause the last boss wasn't a giant cockhole.

[Anonymous No.1026974]

>>1025518
Yeah I think a lot of the Virtua Fighter mythos comes from just a handful of poorly conveyed stories from the 90's like "In Japan they take Virtua Fighter 2 so seriously you can enroll in classes to learn how to play as Akira!" when in reality it was probably some obscure promo demonstration by a tournament player or something. Stuff like that used to get trumped up all the time. The actual Japanese people I know who play fighters in the arcades are very laid back and don't take anything too seriously.

[Anonymous No.1026980]

>>1025631
I absolutely love this series. Not a lot to it, but great art style and music. Plays well enough. Really fun.

[Anonymous No.1026983]

>>1025631

It's pretty much a proto-Arcsys/Examu game with a few of its own bells and whistles attached.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90fC2Y982BI
Recently got a NESiCA re-release and has gotten a bit more play time now that people are more open to its style.

[Anonymous No.1029430]

>>1025325
Similar split happened with Darkstalkers 2 and 3, although 2 actually sold quite a bit more than 3. In fact, the two series parallel each other fairly closely in terms of how they played out: The first set the basic concepts but were rough around the edges and unbalanced. The second refined the first, added a few new things that complemented what was there already, and became solid, playable games. Then the third tried to reinvent things and became largely different games.

[Anonymous No.1029447]

>>1025391
Pretty sure the Street Fighter Alpha sprites were reused more. What with being in every Marvel VS game, and some even making it into CvS.

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[Anonymous No.1032171]

I hope we get to see more 2-D weapon fighters in the future.