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Which vidya rekt the shmup genre harder? Ace Combat or Ikaruga?

>> No.10224564

Ace Combat is not a shmup you dumb fucking mongrel.

>> No.10224571

>>10224564
Doesn't stop shmupfags from blaming "muh doom", "muh street fighter", or any number of different scapegoats.

>> No.10224859
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>>10224562
Soikaruga, whilst a shit shmup, came out after the genre had already been fucked by the invention of tranmaku, thanks to Cave.

At most, it's inconsequential to the death of the genre, in spite of how much it's overrated.

Though an argument could be made for how Gradius was killed by Trashure when they developed V, the worst in the series.

>> No.10224937

>>10224859
Why do you pretend to be knowledgeable about video games, australia?

>> No.10224941

>>10224937
It pretends to be human. Watch it post some retarded pasta and get curbstomped again for its shit taste.

>> No.10225281

Ikaruga being the overrated destroyer of the genre is just a meme parroted by people who don't play shumps or people who do and don't like it for legitimate reasons, but are autistic. 90% of shmups are really good because they're easy to develop, but because of the competitive scoring people want to downplay the validity of games they suck ass at. Treasure makes their own sub-genre of shmups, whether the demand was there or not.

As for Ace Combat, it has nothing to do with the genre you clod. You would have to argue that Ace Combat killed Wing Commander or Descent or some retarded shit just to make that even some semblance of an opinion based in reality.

>> No.10225584

>>10224562
Ikaruga was fun but G-Darius? *crack, sip* Now that's my kinda shmup to play while watching the twin towers fall.

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>>10224937
what beef do you have with Australia

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>>10224562
Ikaruga isn't that good, it just had modern graphics. Good shmups are R-Type Delta, G Darius, and Pulstar. Ikaruga was actually a crappy Danmak.

Who the fuck do you think you are, kid?

>> No.10225623

>>10224562
I hate 3D shoot them ups, they are ugly
2D is always better

>> No.10225774

>>10224562
I figure they would blame it being 1980 because shmups haven't owned the scene since before then. No one gave a shit about shmups in the 90's except for the three people that played them, who still play them.

>> No.10225790

Touhou ruined everything

>> No.10225996

>>10224859
Ikaruga was amazing. Watch master s rank players and be in . Too bad you suck and can't appreciate it for how good it actually is.

>> No.10226002

>>10224859
Gradius V is a great game, ausnigger.

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>>10225790
Came here to post this. We're not in high-school anymore. The music is middling, the gameplay is bog standard and the waifus are generic templates. Touhou was good for a couple years in college, move on.
>inb4 replies from fucking children as always

>> No.10226685

>>10225790
came here to post this

>> No.10227130

>>10225790
this.