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1017847 No.1017847 [Reply] [Original]

Are emulators good replacements for real consoles?

>> No.1017854

For gen 5 and below yes, just buy a current gen console to play new games. Those are backwards compatible with gen 6 also so you'd have the whole gaming spectrum covered.

>> No.1017982

>>1017847
ohboyherewego.jpg

>> No.1017987

Substitute, demonstration, convenient mobile alternative? Yes. Replacement? No.

>> No.1017991

>>1017847
Should I replace my Gameboy Color with a smart phone?

>> No.1018017

>>1017847
Maybe the only cases when emulation is not a good replacement is when the console is rare or the emulation is crap (i.e. n64, sega saturn and maybe ps1 if you don't have a good computer).

>> No.1018030

>>1017991
you could if you buy a controller for the smartphone.

>> No.1018051

>>1017847
Is a tent in the park a good replacement for my house?

>> No.1018056

>>1018051
It's more like playing camping in your basement.

>> No.1018059

>>1017847
Is eating toy food better than eating real food and feeding myself?

>> No.1018060

Playing alone: Yes
Playing Mario Kart with friends: No

>> No.1018086

Is an analogy a good replacement for an argument?

>> No.1018094

>>1018051
>>1018056
>>1018059
samefag

>> No.1018103
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1018103

Yes and you can make them look better with filters

>> No.1018109

>>1018103
>Stretching already blurry pre-rendered environments
>look better

>> No.1018116

>>1018094
No. For the record I don't have any problems with staying at home instead of going outdoors. If you do it right you can still get the same atmosphere.
I don't have money and space for consoles, retro computers and their accessories so emulation gives me a way to play and enjoy them anyway.

>> No.1018119

>>1018103
Get out.

>> No.1018123

>>1018109
>assumes you can't play emulators on a 4:3, or place settings to 4:3 if desired.

>> No.1018124

>>1018103
imo using scanlines and sitting a little far from the monitor is better than filters.

>> No.1018140

>>1018109
In that sceenshot the game doesn't look blurry.

>> No.1018139
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>>1018119

Deal with it

>> No.1018143

>>1018139
Enjoy having those sore eyes.

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>>1018143

Thanks I will

>> No.1018173

>>1018030
>controller on a Game Boy

You smoking the wacky tobacky, anon?

>> No.1018182

One problem that emulators sometimes have is audio and input lag. It can be minimized, of course, but I think the only way to get it console-perfect is through KMS on Linux.

>> No.1018186

>>1018086

I like this post.

>> No.1018217

>>1018173
>playing super mario land with screen controls

>> No.1018230

>>1018217
>playing super mario land at all

Unless you're talking about SML2, of course, in which case I find handheld controls to be fine.

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1018239

this thread is full of gr8 b8 and I can't w8 for the db8

>> No.1018280

My setup for my HDTV :
PS3 for HD remakes, PS2 and PS1 games in 480p
XBOX360 for Xbox 1 games
Wii for Gamecube games in 480p
Gamecube for GBA games in 480p

I know it's not the same, but at least I play on a console with the original or similar controller and they games don't look that bad in 480p on my TV.

All other consoled are used on my SDTV.
>Emulation on PC, not even once.

>> No.1018290

Who knows anything about delay/input latency in emulators, and how they compare to native hardware?

Specifically, how do SNES9x, ZSNES, and Bsnes compare to an actual SNES plugged into a crt in terms of input latency?

>> No.1018291

>>1018239
Who's that Pokemon?

>> No.1018312

>>1018290
The biggest issue is all the overhead from the OS and buffering from the graphics card drivers, really. On Linux, using KMS you can remove virtually all that overhead and buffering, leaving you with little to no input lag. At that point, any remaining lag would probably be a result of the display.

>> No.1018317

>>1018280
What do you play DOS, Amiga etc games on?

>> No.1018348

>>1017847
wow. I expected to be pissed off by this thread but you actually have all the best emulators.
good job.

>> No.1018354

>>1018317
On a computer, what else.

>> No.1018364

I get bored even when playing good games on emulators.

>> No.1018369

>>1017847
Depends. GBA/GBC/N64 I'd rather just play on the real thing. I totally replaced PSX for emulation though.

>> No.1018406

Using a 27" Toshiba CRT from 2005, I played my NES/SNES. I then hooked up my modded Wii and tried that out as well.

>noticed zero input lag using the Wii.
>noticed the Wii had better colour and sharper image.
>found the wii pro control more comfortable.

I have no idea how anyone can truly say that emulation is crap compared to the real thing. My first hand experience tells me otherwise.

>> No.1018427

Depends on the emulator and the conditions.

Personally, I prefer flash carts + the original console.

If I have to emulate, I use a real N64 controller through USB adapter on my computer, with the following EMUs.

SNES: bSnes
N64: Project 64 1.6
GBA: Visual Boy Advance
PSX: Xebra

This doesn't mean these are the best, and if they aren't, I'd definitely love for someone to say so.

>> No.1018432

>>1018427
Why don't you use ZSNES?

>> No.1018442

Is a game on one console a good replacement for the same game on another console? Because an emulated game is about as different from a "real" game as a cross-console port is.

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1018445

>>1017847
>Is riding a e-bike better than driving a car
Are you serious?

>> No.1018459
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1018459

>>1018432
>using one of the shittiest, outdated, and most inaccurate SNES emulators with a nightmarish GUI and equally outdated speedhacks

>> No.1018474

>>1018427
You're good with bSNES (though I prefer using it through RetroArch rather than through higan) and Xebra, but regular VBA is very outdated compared to VBA-M, so give that a try. As for Project64 1.6, I think Mupen64Plus is superior, though I'd wait until the RetroArch version is finished, since the standalone version has no GUI or frontend, so it's not very user friendly.

>> No.1018485

>>1018442
That makes zero sense what so ever. Plus you provide no reason what so ever as to how this is.

>>1018406
Here's a test done which say otherwise. Can you claim doing something like this? No, THEN STFU!

And that's why everything you like is bad as well.

>> No.1018494

>>1018485
>THEN STFU!
how old are you dude

>> No.1018514

>>1018494
because "stfu" has age barriers right.

>> No.1018531
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>>1018514
It kind of does.

>> No.1018532

>>1018459
Saying "Because it's a shitty, outdated and inaccurate SNES emulator with a nightmarish GUI and equally outdated speedhacks." would have gotten your point across without making you look like a tool.

>> No.1018541

>>1018485
shitposter pls

>> No.1018548

>>1017847
They're acceptable, but it's still more fun to have the original consoles in most cases. There's also the question of input lag, which isn't noticeable enough to make a difference in most cases, but can screw you over when emulating processor-intensive games or games that require literal split-second timing.

>> No.1018570

>>1018514
Yeah it definitely does. Stfu goes right along with: xD, smd, smfh, yolo, all that business. No self respecting person over the age of 21 does this.

>> No.1018573

>>1017847

Replacement? No. Something to do that you can't on your system? Sure. Not good for speedruns or anything like that though.

>> No.1018591

>>1018570
Don't you mean 12?

>> No.1018602

>>1017847
only if you are poor

>> No.1018598

>>1018514
no it's more on the fact that someone has a different opinion and the poster writes for them to shut up in all caps like a child yelling.

can't expect much from a thread arguing about emulation vs real hardware

>> No.1018603

>>1017847
Nope.

>> No.1018606

I bought a CRT monitor from a thrift shop for 5 bucks and just use that for pretty much everything retro

emulators are getting fairly accurate, the only thing I really can't play are input sensitive things like parappa.

>> No.1018674

Emulators + CRT monitor + a good controller is a good replacement

Especially if the emulator supports black frame insertion and you use a 240p 120hz display mode

>> No.1018686

>>1018598
this is actually what i meant by it. stfu is pretty childish by itself i guess but it was the way they said it that was most obnoxious

>> No.1018810

>>1018432
bsnes is better

>> No.1018820

>>1018674
Or just use a monitor which which supports 240p 60hz.

>> No.1018827

>>1018820

What monitors support that while still supporting higher resolutions like 1280x960 60hz?

>> No.1018867

>>1018827
A handful, but why would you need 1280x960.

Have a PC monitor, and have a monitor for emus.

>emulating from the same station which you use to browse the internet

Strictly bush league.

>> No.1018885

Yes, but not for N64 or PS2.

>> No.1018891

>>1018867

Because I don't have room for two monitors and I want to play PC games on it as well.

>> No.1018945

>>1018891
Monitors are small. Just a 13" RGB monitor off of ebay.

>> No.1018992

>>1018820
120hz has less input lag though

>> No.1019010

>>1018992

The amount gained is negligible. It's just a technical bonus proponents of 120hz use to argue their case. The real root of lag is the emulator, the pc, the controller, and the television. Not the signal.

And I'd much rather play 240 60hz than jump through hoops on a new tech trying to get a natural image.

>> No.1019040

>>1019010

You have to jump through hoops to get 240p work on PCs period. If you already have a PC CRT monitor lying around, why not use it instead of hunting down some obscure RGB monitor?

>> No.1019067

Do you care about actually owning the real thing? If yes then no

>> No.1019240

>>1017847
Depending on the console. Not all consoles have perfect emulation. Even in PSX there are games you can't play on PSX emulators or they have issues so you have to play them on an actual PSX or PS2.

>> No.1019252

>>1019240

Mednafen plays almost all PSX games flawlessly

>> No.1019274

>>1018060
I just did that actually. Snes9x, keyboard + 360 pad.

It ended with him saying the game he always told me he loved didn't age well.

>> No.1019282

>>1018119
>he uses filters
>look at him and laugh
>get out kid

What's wrong with filters, seriously. It just makes you look autistic.

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>>1018432

>> No.1019329

>>1019040
You don't have to hunt one down. It's just a click on ebay. PC CRT monitors are alright, but still lacking compared to one designed for 15khz.

>> No.1019781

>>1017847

sure

>> No.1019831

I dont understand why anyone would use something other than zsnes, it had perfect emulation years before the copycats filled in all the little trendy shit games that no one gives a fuck about

granted cpus are so fast it no longer matters whether something runs fast or not, so these mame-style all encompassing shit-emulators are just fine

I just dont see why you would bother switching over to them

I mean if you're just emulating some old game, what the fuck difference does it matter if it's a tiny bit off (and even this is subjective)

its just the usual hipster shit, preferring rare things because they don't have a real life

>I disagreed with someone, so in before: bait/troll/not a cool kid

>> No.1019836

oh and I still use genecyst and nesticle

fuck the new stuff, I'm not creating art, I'm just playing some old fucking game

>> No.1019840

>>1019252
Mednafen is good for not needing per-game configuration/plugin bullshit, and I have high hopes for its development. But I still want to know about the KotR summon in FF7, it sounds REALLY strange in Mednafen but not PCSX-R.

>> No.1019841

>>1019831

>Zsnes
>perfect
>Literally only even works because of speehacks and workarounds.

You have no fucking CLUE what you're talking about.

>> No.1019859

>>1019841

told you the 'you're not a cool kid' was coming pretty quickly

took like 60 seconds

its like fucking clockwork

I must be dense, because it works fucking perfectly and can be configured in like 20 seconds

I guess Im just not smart enough to understand why being able to play all the good snes games right after I download it makes it such a broken piece of shit

the real issue here is that you aren't thankful to the people who perfected and refined these concepts sometimes as much as 20 years before some other autist came along and filled in all the gaps for his college coding project

its the innovaters that matter, not the cleanup crew that come in later and mine out all the goodies

one requires intellect, vision, and imagination. the other requires a code monkey to comb through thousands of little fucking details and arrange all the bytes correctly

>> No.1019862

>>1019831
>>1019836

>willfully using shit outdated emulators
>calling people who superior modern emulators "hipsters"

These posts are too retarded to be serious

>> No.1019864

>>1019841
Congratulations, you fell for it. In before you fall for it a second time.

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>>1019859

>> No.1019868

>>1019859
What the fuck are you even talking about?

Why would you willfully use an emulator that doesn't emulate every game properly, when an alternative that does is literally 20 seconds away.

It's not about being a "cool kid", it's about not being a fucking idiot.

>> No.1019870

>>1019831
Fuck off retard.

>> No.1019873

>>1019868

looks like I used the word 'willfully' too many times, every time I start saying something insulting as fuck it goes viral in a few weeks

I'm also responsible for 'objectively,' sorry about that

concerning your post, you're creating a strawman

I never said your shitty emulator didn't do its job perfectly

I said I didn't understand why anyone would care enough to switch

what the fuck difference does it matter

I played these good snes games to completion, many times, with no errors, like 10 years ago, on zsnes

what is the point of the 'better' emulator if it serves no purpose

that is the definition of hipster, more or less, someone who is obsessive about something that doesn't fucking matter at all

I'm afraid I'm right

I'm sorry, do you understand now

>> No.1019874

>>1019859
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmPgtYkZlQ

>> No.1019885 [DELETED] 

>>1019874

bahahaha

what the fuck is that

if you're trying to distance yourself from hipsterdom you are running in the wrong direction

I seem to remember that that is a well-loved but relatively unknown game?

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>> No.1019887

>>1019873

If you think ZSNES's emulation is anywhere close to good, you don't know shit about SNES emulation. Can't even do transparencies right, sound accuracy is considerably off, SA-1 is broken, etc. SNES9x has been ahead of it for years now.

You've probably never even touched a real SNES so you probably don't know how badly ZSNES emulates certain things.

Sorry but you're fucking retarded. If your PC can't run fucking SNES9x fullspeed, congratulations - your PC is slower than a Wii, because a Wii can run SNES9x-Next, an optimized SNES9x 1.52 fork, full speed with Blargg's perfect audio emulation.

Also ZSNES is utterly irrelevant today because it is written in non-portable x86 ASM so it's a dead-end.

>> No.1019892

You will never have a satisfactory answer here because of 2 reasons.

1. If you played the game on certain hardware, you attach the experience to that hardware. This is not nostalgia, but a somatic and visual attachment. Tactile input is a large part of the gaming experience, and changing the timing and the controller can ruin it. This is not true for everyone, but it is true for many who visit this board. Ditto CRT output arguments. You either understand the mentality or you don't.

2. Experiencing a game in emulation is really a stopgap, regardless of how you justify it. You either haven't the time, money, or space for the original hardware. This is completely understandable. I only have a collection of over 700 games across 15 platforms and that takes up a whole room. This is not a poorfag argument for them; it's a fact of life that not everyone has the crazy devotion to hardware that some of us do.

tl;dr - Emulation is okay if you can't bother with the old consoles and can live with whatever it is you deem as "good enough". Fuck the haters.

>> No.1019893

>>1019885


you're trying too hard man

I don't see the issue with wanting to play on an emulator that plays most games without any issues.

That's the point of an emulator is it not? to have access to a huge library of games?

What good is it if I have to switch emulators to play a game? why not just save myself the time and get the emulator that works best?

Using an emulator only because of nostalgia (literally the only reason to use ZNES) seems like the more hipster thing to do.

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>>1019831
>>1019836
>>1019859
>>1019873
>>1019885

>> No.1019909

>>1019831

http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=5681

Hey look it's ZSNES with ZSNES ripped out and replaced with SNES9x instead.

Now shut the fuck up because you have no excuses

>> No.1019934

>>1019909
I was unaware this existed, thank you anon.

>> No.1019949

>>1017847
No, PSX emulation scene is damn shitty.
Playable, but with shitty accuracy.

>> No.1019956

I mostly use ZSNES and I'm fine with it. If something doesn't work right I just use another emulator. I think arguing over emulators is really stupid. Just use whatever you like best and be done with it. It doesn't matter what the other person likes. It's not like they are holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use their emulator of choice.

I no longer have anything older than a PS2 and Gamecube. I don't have the room or the money for all those old systems I used to have. So I emulate. And it's not the same experience. But it's close enough. Plus I can play translations and games not released in the US. Sure there are ways to do that on the actual console. But this is just easier and I don't have a ton of carts taking up space that I might only play once but can't bear to part with.

Sometimes I use filters. I like to test them out for fun. And some games look better to me with filters. Getting up in arms over the use of filters is as stupid as arguing over other people's choice in emulators. Who cares? Just don't use them yourself if you don't like them.

>> No.1019957

>>1019949
> he doesn't know about xebra and mednafen!

laughingwhores.jpg

It's not 2008 anymore, buddy. PS1 emulation is finally out of the plugin hell.

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1019987

Horrible thread. Embarrassing. Really sad to see this on /vr/. You're making /v/ look good, and retro gaming in general look like petty shit.

>> No.1020208

TLDR thread.
If I wish to play them games, I can do through my laptop, comfy in bed with emulators and change games with a few clicks.
I do care more about actually being able to play them again than having them look like ye olde crt tv quality.

Honestly, I played so much Mega Drive back in the day, now play the games on Kega Fusion. I don't care about the difference, I don't even remember how it was.
The filters are indeed good to emulate how shitty some used to behave - with unfocused and dislocated pixels.

>> No.1020216

Emulators + Controller Outputting 15khz RGB to a CRT is better than a real console hands down.

>> No.1020240

>>1017847
>Are emulators good replacements for consoles that are broken today anyway ?

>> No.1020285

>>1019957
don't forget psxfin

>> No.1020293

It's neat having the console and actual games on your shelf
but it makes no difference if they run perfectly on an emulator.
Just like it makes no difference if you have music on a CD or as lossless files on your PC.

>>1018086
10/10
Would read again.

>> No.1020337

>>1018280
My setup
PC for DOS/NES/SNES/N64/GBC/GBA/DS/GC/WII/NGP/PS1/PS2/PSP/SMD/SS/DC

I prefer the convenience.

>> No.1020614

>>1018230
You're a fucking retard, you know that, right?
He's saying that if you play GB/GBC games on a smartphone, you have two options; one being to use the touch screen, and the second being to use one of those bluetooth controllers you can get.

He isn't saying ANYTHING about handheld controls, nor is he trying to connect a controller to this Game Boy.
Not to mention that the controls on a Game Boy aren't much different from a standard NES controller, I have NO idea why you even decided to post.

Seriously anon, stop shitting up /vr/.

>> No.1020891

>>1019987
Thread was fine until a ZSNES troll showed up

>> No.1021334

>>1020285
Nah, that one's pretty inaccurate. It just doesn't use plugins, is all. Xebra and Mednafen shit on it.

>> No.1021574

>not using RetroArch for everything

>> No.1021594

NES and SNES emulation is nearly perfect. GC, Wii, PS, and PS2 emulation are decent. N64 emulation is sad.

>> No.1021703
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>>1018139
step aside bro, here's some real HD

just like developers intended it

>> No.1021706

>>1021703
It's beautiful.

Now upload a goddamned jpg next time.

>> No.1021707

>>1021706
JPG is too lossy to handle this beautiful HD.

>> No.1021715
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1021715

Are flash carts good replacements for real cartridges?

>> No.1021729

>>1021715
I'm actually curious to what extent flashcarts can emulate custom memory mappers.
Do they have all of them on board or what?

>> No.1021738

>>1018086
I love this post so much.

Seriously, using an analogy is just a backhanded way of admitting you have no argument.

>> No.1021745

>>1018312

Loonix user here.I got a dual boot with Windows and use Windows for emulation.Are there better emulators on Linux?

>> No.1021752

>>1021745
What's the point of even using Linux, if you're just gonna boot to Windows every time Linux is an inconvenience?

>> No.1021765

>>1021752

It's more reliable and I can do neat things.I currently I only boot on Windows to play videogames (why would I keep trying compatibility patches and things like Wine when I have a Windows 7 license?).

And that's why I asked that question.If emulation can be a better experience on Linux, then I want to know how to do it.

>> No.1021769

Emulators usually provide an improved experience.

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>>1018168
>>1018139
>>1018103
I love messing around with that stuff to try and make the worst looking game possible.

>> No.1021851

For super rare games like Fire N Ice that you will never, ever play on a cartridge, you really do need an emulator.

>> No.1021935

>>1018103
that looks terriable

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1021945

am i the only one who uses PSXFIN

>> No.1021959

>>1021945
no reason to use that anymore unless you're on a toaster.

>> No.1021994

>>1017847
I tried to play emulators on my laptop, but I just can't stand them. I end up buying real consoles every time, especially when I want to play some portable console game.

>> No.1022813

>>1021945
>>1021959
I use it too because while the laptop it's not a toaster, I can play games for hours under the heat of summer without worrying. The fans don't even get noisy.

>> No.1023262

>emulating handheld devices on PC

>> No.1023334

>>1023262
>not emulating PCs on handheld devices

>> No.1023341
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1023341

When recording gameplay of any console, it's best to emulate it on the computer (then recording is a breeze + playing the game at max AA, etc.).

IMO, playing handheld games is best on an actual handheld. A modded PSP can play all consoles from NES to GBA.

As a question, how is the progress on an Xbox emulator? I heard it's close to impossible (or really really really really hard), so I ended up buying an original xbox.

Likewise, how is the N64 emulation scene? I heard it STILL has problems (unlike the PSX emulation scene where everything works great (ePSX)

>> No.1023348

>>1023341
If I recall correctly the reason why N64 emulation is so behind is that the original creator has gotten bored of the project and he won't let other people pick up where he left off or something.

>> No.1023362

>>1021738
OMFG all of your arguments are always "you guys shouldn't look at girls butts because I don't like it and I'm a girl" "You should use CRTs because I think they look better and I'm a girl"

>> No.1023364

>>1017847
No, but in 30 years or so they'll be all we have.

http://www.tested.com/tech/gaming/44376-16_bit-time-capsule-how-emulator-bsnes-makes-a-case-for-software-preservation/

>> No.1023365

>>1023341
Mupen64plus is beyond Project64 and works on platforms other than Windows

>> No.1023367

>>1023364
>"FlashROM used in Nintendo DS cartridges are only rated for 10-20 years of life...Far less than MaskROM used by the SNES era," byuu wrote when I asked about the eventual disappearance of SNES hardware. "More complex systems lead to quicker faults as well. You don't hear much about red rings of death on the SNES, for example. And nowadays there's all the DRM, the digital-only downloads and post-sale game patches, and the upcoming restrictions against resale, and I see a very bleak future for preservation."

Doom

>> No.1023373

>>1023365
http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/wiki/GameCompatibility

Not impressive.

>> No.1023382

Isn't it kind of weird to think that some developers don't have a working copy of a game they programmed and a console to play it on? You essentially create something and yet are forever divorced from it. Never again will you see that thing.

>> No.1023415
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1023415

>>1021836
I feel you.

>> No.1023429

>>1023373
That's probably outdated

>> No.1023440

>>1023367
We'll have our own cheap flash cartridges before the software completely shits - not that it hasn't been solidly dumped already for the most part. Optical systems will have solid state solutions, hopefully. Once security is cracked, accurate emulation should be easy for x86 based 7th gen systems and beyond, assuming there even ends up being a beyond for consoles and they continue on the path they're on.

>> No.1023650

>>1023373
That list is outdated as fuck. It lists incompatibilities with versions as low as version 1.3, released years ago, when they're already on 2.0. Donkey Kong 64, for instance, works now.

>> No.1023668

>>1023367
>FlashROM used in Nintendo DS cartridges are only rated for 10-20 years of life
Good that i didn't wasted my money on it.

>FlashROM
Shit nigga, is this really true???

>MaskROM used by the SNES era
Call me insane, but i believe that those last infinite years.
Because big 'Through-hole technology' > tiny 'Surface-mount technology'.

>> No.1023979

>>1023440
Who is going to make DS flash carts when the 3DS' life cycle is almost up?

>> No.1024008

>>1023650
Oh well, they need to keep a better list if they want people to use their emulator

>> No.1024335

>>1024008
Agreed. It's actually a great emulator, since it builds upon the already very compatible Mupen64. Once the libretro version comes out, there should be no excuse to not use it over Project64 except in a handful of cases.

>> No.1025561

>>1024335
Like Banjo-Tooie for example...