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metroid 1 is not a metroidvania

that is all

>> No.10151239

>>10151238
metroidvania is a gay term used by faggots
that is all

>> No.10151242

>>10151239
>metroidvania is a gay term used by faggots
agreed


that is all

>> No.10151252

>>10151238
It's a survival horror maze runner.

>> No.10151253

>>10151238
Metroid 1 is not a good game
Simple as

>> No.10151273

>>10151238
what is a metroidvania anyway?
I'm still confused by this
at first I thought they were early open world games
but turns out they are mostly linear and
just don't tell you where to go next

>> No.10151280

>>10151238
reminder castlevania wasn't good enough as a platformer and had to ride the coattails of a game whose first entry practically required a guide
>>10151239
this

>> No.10151303

>>10151273
So, the playstation Castlemania game was a rip off of Super Metroid. So retards started saying "metroidvania" is a genre

>> No.10151308

>>10151273
I prefer to call them Maze Upgrade Jumpers (MUJs)

>> No.10151310

>>10151239
i 100% agree. it's a term forced by nintenfaggots, they want the world to think metroid was ever relevant as castlevania. fuck metroid.

>> No.10151332

>>10151310
>castlevania
>relevant
nobody but weebs was playing that shit, nobody was playing 2d sidescrollers on playstation

>> No.10151374

People who get mad about genre designations are the most annoying people in video games, I swear.
>uh, actually the definition of a Metroidvania is a game containing equal parts Metroid and Castlevania and therefore...
Shut the fuck up.

>> No.10151394

>>10151303
It's just a way to group together games that have certain ideas in common, so people can very easily find similar games to ones they already like.
That's what a "genre" is in the first place. You people always act like there's some hard science to this and there's such a thing as "true genres" and "fake genres".
People just need terms to communicate ideas, because otherwise they can't have a conversation.

>> No.10151660

It is, actually.
/thread

>>10151660
This.

>> No.10151674

>>10151239
same goes for shmup, kusoge and boomer shooter

>> No.10151675

>>10151660
>quoting himself
impressive, very nice

>> No.10151683

>>10151674
Kusoge just means "shit game", and is used by weebs who want to look quirky,

>> No.10151690

>>10151238
>doesn’t say N word pak in the top left
Missed opportunity

>> No.10151692

>>10151683
I live in Japan, we use the term out loud regularly.

>> No.10151697

>>10151692
Yeah, because it means "shit game" in Japanese.

>> No.10151717

>>10151238
It has back tracking and non linear design unlike the second game

>> No.10151718

>>10151310
No one cares for Castlevania beyond SOTN

>> No.10151723

>>10151239
fippybippy as usual.

>> No.10151727

>>10151332
Didn't Castlevania consistently outsell Metroid during every era?

>> No.10151729

>>10151238
Metroidvania is a bullshit name who started the key-hunting genre were the westerners and then in msx they developed the game that was the basis for castlevania 2 and metroid.

>> No.10151731

>>10151239
agreed especially since every metroidvania is actually only copying symphony of the night, they should be called symphony of the night clones

>> No.10151734

>>10151729
Seethe and cry about it like a little bitch some more.
>WAAH STOP USING THAT WORD
Nope. Go on, piss yourself, little faggot.

>> No.10151740
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10151740

Just came from another reality, we call these games Spelunkers.

Feels like it has a better ring to it, you expire, discover, encounter enemies, find shit and upgrade it with stuff that deeper in the maze.

Spelunkers

>> No.10151749

>>10151394
>People just need terms to communicate ideas, because otherwise they can't have a conversation.

And this is why we can't have one of those on /vr/ sometimes.

>> No.10151759

>>10151273
it's a Castlevania game that plays like a Metroid game because Castlevania prior to SOTN had significantly different gameplay so it was used in reference to Metroid specifically. any other use of the word is wrong.

>> No.10151773

>>10151734
I'm calling ''FPS'' games Doomnukems and you can't stop me, slut.

>> No.10151776

only (some) castlevania games can be metroidvanias, but redditors loved to jse that word in every context they could

>> No.10151784

>>10151238
It's, wait for it, a Platformer.

>> No.10151835

It's a willyscotformervania newfriend.

>> No.10151847

>>10151310
other way around, chatgpt

>> No.10152032

>>10151727
Castlevania never hit 2 million sales while Metroid did three times.

Castlevania only outsell Metroid due having more games having released.

>> No.10152073

>>10151238
No shit

>> No.10152076

>>10151238
Wow, it's almost as if it pioneered it like ever other SEARCH ACTION/SEARCH ADVENTURE game that came before SotN, Zelda 2, and Metroid

>> No.10152079

>>10151239
>>10151238
/thread

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>>10151727
>Castlevania consistently outsell Metroid during every era
>only best seller CV had was the first (and only good) Lords of the Shadows

>> No.10152095

Heck, the Dead Cells crossover Castlevania had recently didn't even scratch Metroid Dread's sales.
Both sold 3 million and were the franchise first.

The fact Dread made all of that on one platform and all the threats piratefags had against the game is an impressive feat for Metroid.

>> No.10152130

>>10151660
based self quoter

>> No.10152152
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>>10151238
ftfy

>> No.10152169

>>10151784
It's a specific type of platformer.

>> No.10153354

>>10151239
Fucking FPBP. If not something like "platformer-adventure", why not at least "Metroid-like" or "Metroid-esque", since SotN was already compared to Metroid?

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>>10151239

>> No.10153456

This thread makes me want to throw my phone at the wall in anger.

>> No.10153469

>>10153354
Because it's a thing that enough people said until it caught on. You don't get to decide language for everyone else.

>> No.10153583

>>10151310
Metroid crawled so Castlevania could run.

>> No.10153652

>>10151690
Isn't "Ass Word Pak" good enough?

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>>10151239

>> No.10153683

>>10151238
I thought Metroid 1 sucked ass compared to Super Metroid. I wonder if Megroid is a decent rom hack. Where can I download it?

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>>10151239

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>>10153435
my reply was the 2nd post

>> No.10153725

>>10153435
my reply was the 2nd post

>> No.10153757

>>10151273
The confusion is because the term "metroidvania" was originally just a tongue-in-cheek way of differentiating older Castlevania games, or "classicvanias", from the newer ones like Symphony of The Night that had a generally much different design that reminded people of Metroid.

I think it was maybe around the time that CV: Lords of Shadow that the CV fandom, or at least a particular subset of it, started insisting that "Metroidvania" is a genre, and your post along with OP's helps demonstrate why it's so dumb. I'm not sure the CV fandom itself has actually settled on a definition even after all this time.

>>10151310
>it's a term forced by nintenfaggots
On the contrary, it was very much the Castle-/IgaVania fanboys who forced it, if anything, I'd imagine the Metroid fandom is annoyed by it, especially when the term gets retroactively applied to their games.

>> No.10153769

>>10153757
metroidvania was originally used as an insult to the new format from old castlevania fans, it became term of endearment because the games are good tho, it wasn't meant to just differentiate.

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>>10151238
>play a Metroidvania
>it's actually a Castletroid

>> No.10154803

>>10153757
>certain games have certain recognisable design motifs in common
Explain to me how that isn't a genre. Just because you think it shouldn't be?

>> No.10154826

>>10151374
>>10151394
I'm glad some people with above 70 IQ remain on 4chan at least. /v/ is really in particular bad about shitting themselves over genre names as if genres mean anything other than a loose way to give you a vague idea of what something is like.

>> No.10154884

>>10151374
Zelda is my favorite JRPG

>> No.10154904

>>10151238
It's a marketing term meant to give familiarity when advertising a video game to consumers. The label breaks down hard when you start talking about anything that isn't a 2d side scroller. Is Ocarina of Time a metriodvania?

>> No.10154910

>>10154904
No it’s actually kusoge

>> No.10154913

>>10151239
this