[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vr/ - Retro Games

View post   
File: 1.83 MB, 2692x1416, 02_unreal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10136789 No.10136789 [Reply] [Original]

Why was Unreal so based? Why was Epic never able to capture the same magic again?

>> No.10136869

>>10136789
same reason why blizzard couldn't make a good diablo after D2. people/teams change within companies and the good taste probably left with them. increasing corporate greed in the gaming industry probably also to blame.

>> No.10136894

>>10136789
when did they try to capture the same magic? unreal 2 took a while, and was done by the dudes who did an unreal expansion pack

>> No.10136905
File: 58 KB, 533x800, diablo-ii-resurrected-xbox-one-front-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10136905

>>10136869
Anon, they did make a good Diablo after D2

>> No.10137005

>>10136905
im not really sure it counts as its literally diablo 2,also its not even better than the original.

>> No.10137028

>>10136789

I think they were too busy making money off of Unreal Tournament.

>> No.10137042

>>10137005
It is better than the original.
>More viable builds
>Ladder runewords and items in single player
>Can cast spells with hotkeys
>Beautiful graphics, fully 3D
>Unlocked framerate
>Fixed some hitbox bullshit in old version
>Many mods for original are even forward-compatible

>> No.10137057

>>10137028
>I think they were too busy making money off of Unreal Tournament.

You mean, licensing the Unreal Engine? It's crazy to think that 3D Realms licensed UE1 for Duke Nukem Forever. The version that shipped still used the UE1 license, but was basically 3Drealms own branch of UE. It's fascinating to see the version of the UE1 engine that they had with the 2001 builds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RglHefTl1Wo

>> No.10137065
File: 770 KB, 1278x1020, 1662171043438836.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10137065

>>10137042
It is worse.

>> No.10137138

>>10137042
>drastic redesigns made to appear more diverse
>removed problematic gendered pronouns
>is always online

>> No.10137149

>>10137042
>chat is dysfunctional
>even two years after release
>load times between games are no longer instantaneous
It's literally worse. It's interesting to see the updated graphics, but it's now harder to play the game. PoD and PD2 are the best ways to play Diablo II now.

>> No.10137276 [DELETED] 
File: 3.50 MB, 4128x2322, 20230808_165611.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10137276

Image related are a few of the UE games that I have. Just UT99 GOTY Edition, UT2004 DVD release, and the demo disc has Tactical Ops beta 2. I use to play TO a lot.

>> No.10137286
File: 3.50 MB, 4128x2322, 20230808_165611.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10137286

Image related are a few of the UE games that I have. Just UT99 GOTY Edition, UT2004 DVD release, and the demo disc has Tactical Ops beta 2. I use to play Tactical Ops a lot.

>> No.10137554

>>10136789
I was hooked on this game until I got to the temple's second level where you get the multiple rocket launcher thing weapon. Does it get better after? I've been playing Duke Nukem 3D and it's more fun. And I'm on episode 2.

>>10137057
And I thought Ghost Recon's glass destruction was pretty good. Damn that's fantastic glass shattering.

>> No.10137570

>>10137554
What exactly bothered you about the water temple? The Temple of Vandora comes later and it is my favourite level in the game.

>> No.10137590

>>10137570
I'm not sure. Maybe it's the slow water exploration (most likely) or the story bits that get dropped about the Nali (if they are called that, I can't remember). And that the fighting space feels extremely more limited than before. For me the game is dragging quite a lot, and the atmosphere felt more enigmatic to me.

>> No.10137782

>>10137590
If you can force yourself to make it past this level in the end, I'd say play until you get to the Vandora temple, it's just a few levels away. If you're still not having fun, then it would be safe to drop it. Tho talking about water, you might also hate the slime levels and they're next iirc.

>> No.10138047

>>10137042
>fully 3D
Right, so it's a downgrade compared to the original.

>> No.10138085

>>10138047
It literally uses the same models used to generate the sprites in old version.

>> No.10138248
File: 143 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10138248

>>10138085
Damn anon are you blind. You can argue which one is better but obviously none of those models are the same, even the tree is different

>> No.10138810

>>10136789

It was made by Gamers for Gamers, and not by soulless Corporate Assholes.

>> No.10139045
File: 122 KB, 1280x720, d2 ass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10139045

>>10137782
Thanks for the heads up anon.
For me Unreal has been more about exploring an unknown place with occasional shooting more than a "proper" old school FPS experience. I see it as an incredible tech demo. Playing it with EAX definitely adds to it. I just think the focus on water bits are not helping. For me it's as if Riddick would meet Tomb Raider. Two things I enjoy a lot.
I don't get why designers don't usually give the player tools to propel themselves when swimming or let the player move at insane speeds like when on ground. It would expand the gameplay into something more engaging than killing bad fish at a dragging pace.

>>10137065
>>10138248
What a way to make the girls less attractive. I wish they'd let me play with a powerful hot female (aka bad bitch). RIP femme fatale.