Shmups

[Anonymous No.1012131]

I noticed a unhealthy lack of shmup discussion in /vr/ so let's have a shmup thread.

Post your tate setups, highscores, game recommendations, latest pickups and let's have a general discussion about shmups.

I've been trying to 1-ALL Dodonpachi and Battle Bakraid normal course, still sucking tho, can't get through 1-5 in ddp and the cloud stage rapes me every time in Bakraid, but I'm getting there. The only 1cc's ive gotten so far are Deathsmiles and Psyvariar.

Also ordered Ketsui since it got the region free release on PS3.

http://retroconsoles.wikia.com/wiki/Shmup

[Anonymous No.1012134]

>>1012131
>can't get through 1-5 in ddp
are you me

[Anonymous No.1012218]

I basically play only cave games. Playing them just feels good.
I'm not a score maniac but I like to evade things. So usually I turn difficulty to the max.
Playing on Dell p1130 but I don't have strength and patience to flip the screen when want to play Deathsmiles or any other 4:3 game

I only 1cc Deathsmiles and Daifukkatsu so far.
Dai-Ou-Jou is too much for me. Can't get through level 3 also can't play Ibara because I don't see the fucking bullets.
>Also ordered Ketsui since it got the region free release on PS3.
I'm on poor side this year so no Ketsui for me

also looking for decent 4:3 Pivot LCD
got my eyes on
Dell UltraSharp 2007FP
Dell UltraSharp 2001
HP LP2065
any tips?

[Anonymous No.1012251]

If you haven't heard of it yet, I'd fully recommend Einhander for PS1.
Not quite your typical shmup. The game has a strong emphasis on the weapons you can pick up, choosing the ones you want wisely, and utilizing those for the small amount of time you have them for (they all have limited ammo and if you don't get more of it it won't last you as long as you'd like it to)

[Anonymous No.1012267]

>>1012251
I really appreciate the ship selection. It really underlines the core gameplay

[Anonymous No.1012291]

Striker 1945 is my favorite right now. Check it out on mame. Also check out captain skyhawk on NES. Its a great game and has a pseudo 3D aspect where you can fly high or low to hit enemies on the too down screen. It also has a top gun style segment between levels.

Also check out raptor by apogee for early PC. Another great game and you can but weapon upgraded between levels.

[Anonymous No.1012301]

>>1012267
It certainly does, although I find myself picking the ship with three gun slots which switch more than any other.
The ship with two gun slots feels like a waste because they both shoot at the same time, and the ship with one gun slot and two machine guns just isn't enough for me.

The weapons I look out the most for are the Vulcan, Cannon, and the Blade or Riot.

[Anonymous No.1012337]

Favorite devs? I play Cave stuff 90% of the time, but Raizing and Takumi are also good.

[Anonymous No.1012345]

>>1012251

Fucking loved that game growing up.

[Anonymous No.1012348]

>>1012251
Honestly I feel like people only liked Einhander because they never played a proper STG before, and it was made by Square.

[Anonymous No.1012352]

>>1012348

When I played it as a kid, I wasn't even aware of what Square was, and was familiar with shmups.

Why do you think that?

[Anonymous No.1012362]

Is Gradius 2 (MSX) any good?

[Anonymous No.1012381]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alqdvhfvt6-WdGtUWUllSk1ReGJMLTBhZThBT0JBRGc&usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.1012441]

What's the optimal setup in Gradius 1 to maximize power vs rank?

[Anonymous No.1012449]

>tfw you'll never own a copy of radiant silvergun

[Anonymous No.1012464]

Finally got this in the mail yesterday and it is fucking amazing.

Still waiting on my Batsugun and Dodonpachi. I don't even know why it's late when I ordered it the same time as Thunder Force Gold Pack 2. Ordering from Japan is one hard waiting game, but at least it's better than waiting for Wii U to get quality games.

[Surreal, immersive game enviro(...) No.1012465]

>>1012348
>hurr its not a danmaku therefore its not a real shmup

[Anonymous No.1012470]

>>1012348
>hurr its not a danmaku therefore not a real shmup

[Anonymous No.1012472]

>>1012131
Ketsui is gonna feel like a lone wolf in the PS3 collection when it's not sitting next to ESPGaluda II, Mushihimesama Futari and Muchi Muchi Pork

[Anonymous No.1012475]

in dodonpachi 1-5 can mostly be easily dodged by moving in a U shape along the bottom and sides. Even more so if you're playing C-S. 6 is a little more varied in its patterns and makes you go all over though.

[Anonymous No.1012542]

>>1012472
Yeah, but it's still a physical copy of Ketsui, which is awesome in my opinion. I love that game.

[Anonymous No.1012552]

>>1012337
I love basically anything from Raizing and Cave, Toaplan is up there aswell. Psikyo has some good games, but most of them seem too similiar. Dragon Blaze is a blast though.

[Anonymous No.1012561]

>>1012475
I play A-L since I like to play as the faster ships with straight fire and the more powerful laser makes the bosses fall faster.

[Anonymous No.1012562]

Who likes Under Defeat on DC here? I don't think I've seen it mentioned before.

[Anonymous No.1012567]

>>1012562
I've only played the HD version, I like it even though the HD version has some nasty unintentional slow down.

[Anonymous No.1012576]

1) Acquire Dreamcast
2) Acquire these games :
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/dreamcast-shmups-library-2d-shooters
3) ???
4) Profit

[Anonymous No.1012582]

>>1012576
Why not Saturn? It has alot more shmups and most of them are better than what's on Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1012598]

>>1012582
Why not both? Dreamcast is a good option for beginners though because of the availability of it's shooters.

[Anonymous No.1012631]

Any cool PC shooters coming out? I got Danmaku Unlimited 2 which is alright. I know Astebreed is coming out eventually but is there anything else? Seems like most doujin devs go to PS3/360 nowadays

[Anonymous No.1012645]

why are Raizing games so good

[Anonymous No.1012659]

>>1012645
complex scoring and rank systems.

[Anonymous No.1012698]

>>1012645
Because Yagawa.

[Anonymous No.1012707]

>>1012218
just get the stand
swivel, tilt, landscape-to-portrait 270º and works with any lcd up to 25"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16848021346

[Anonymous No.1012710]

>>1012645
it's the sprites, bro
raizing knows how to make pixels into delicious magical airplanes

[Anonymous No.1012706]

>tfw trying to 1cc my first shmup r-type 3

[Nail No.1012741]

All Cave games are solid and Dodonpachi is definitely top 5

but

Progear is my favorite schmup

[Anonymous No.1012746]

>>1012741
>schmup
schoot em up

[Anonymous No.1012750]

>>1012707
Got something like this in home but still the borders...
>>1012741
I've fucking sucks at horizontal shooters and scoring system is complex as fuck. Still better than Akai Katana form me

[Yui Hirasawa !GITAHxgCoo No.1013428]

Hello everymina! Lately I've been crashing into bubbles in Gradius 4. My recommendation: Vasara. It's a vertical shooter with lots of swordplay.

>>1012291
Strikers 1945 is awesome. What's your favorite airplane? I like the bf 109.

>>1012441
I think one or two options + missiles is good enough most of the time.

>>1012464
Nice pickup.

>>1012631
I found these recently:

INFINOS
Kind of a mix of R-Type and Salamander
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21571966

Root3Line
A Ring^-27esque timed round based shooter
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21607550

[Anonymous No.1013520]

This one was neat.

[Anonymous No.1013557]

What is the easiest shmup to 1cc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJJGxXDO9M

[Anonymous No.1013686]

>>1012362
its fuckin hard

[bsg No.1013769]

I'm feeling simple lately so it's all about Turbo Force (1991). Shooting up tanks, planes, and space bugs in a red lamborghini diablo. Nice rock soundtrack to this one too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmAPgP8df4A

[Anonymous No.1013792]

>>1013769
Turbo Force would be better if it didn't decrease your firepower.

[Anonymous No.1013881]

This is awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU0jCLcyBFo

[Anonymous No.1013897]

>>1013557

Vanguard on the 2600.

[Anonymous No.1014293]

What kind of art is there for shmups? Pictures of the planes looking badass?

[Anonymous No.1014298]

>>1014293
Mostly.

[Anonymous No.1014321]

>>1014293
It depends on whether there are lolis or nor

[Anonymous No.1015692]

Is there such a stand (at a good price £) that is floor standing, for a 32" flatscreen, that can tilt into tate mode? my old TV would be fine for this.

[Anonymous No.1017805]

>tfw finally get past the first stage in Flying Shark

holy shit this is glorious

toaplan games are so hard

[Anonymous No.1017997]

Christ do I hate waiting for imports to come in.

[Anonymous No.1022201]

>>1014293
see pic

>>1012464
Soukyugurentai is one of my favorite Saturn shmups. Has a lot of style, great music, and some killer boss fights - some of my favorite in the entire genre.

[Anonymous No.1023330]

Why is the first level in Truxton 2 so long?

[Anonymous No.1023574]

>>1023330
Why are all the levels in the Truxton games so long?

[Yui Hirasawa !GITAHxgCoo No.1023667]

>>1023330
>>1023574
Welcome to Toaplan. How tough are ya?

[Anonymous No.1023682]

>>1023667
Yui! I've been playing Batrider, and I think it's an awesome game, but I feel like it suffers from poor visibility. I can barely see bullets half the time! Are there any good shmups that have a similar charge-shot mechanic, but are easier on the ol' visual cortex?

[Yui Hirasawa !GITAHxgCoo No.1023706]

>>1023682
Vimana! I don't see it mentioned often but I think it's really nice.

Also you can change the bullet colors in Batrider with a code, that might help make them easier to see.

[Anonymous No.1023709]

>>1017805
>>1023667
Here.

Flying Shark is fuckin' hard. But I think the two Truxtons take the cake in level length.

[Anonymous No.1023723]

>>1023706
Not the guy but thanks for the info.
Also posting to say that Yui is my favorite girl, thus you're probably a good person.

[Anonymous No.1023741]

What are some Saturn import essentials?
I have Soukyugurentai, Macross, and Tempest 2000.

[Anonymous No.1023758]

Is it just me, or are Cave games a lot less popular now that the majority of them are emulated?

Like, shmup threads used to be all "KETSUI KETSUI KETSUI, BEST GAME EVER KETSUI FAGGOTS"

Then once Ketsui got emulated, it was "DEATHSMILES DEATHSMILES MUSHIHIME MUCHI PORK"

It's like Cave fans only enjoy games when they're the only ones who play them.

[Anonymous No.1023772]

>>1023758
That's a strange phenomenon, I never actually noticed this before. It's not like CAVE games have been good since Feveron or Esp. Ra.De. either.

[Anonymous No.1023882]

>>1023682
Battle Bakraid and Raiden Fighters series has that.

[Anonymous No.1023884]

>>1023741
Battle Garegga, it's probably the best game on the system.

[Anonymous No.1024134]

>>1012131
is it bad to turn a crt on it's side? We had a projection tv around 2001-02 that would seriously destroy itself if you turned it sideways. What about a crt pc monitor? I wanna have a portrait monitor to play Raiden on but I don't wanna fuck up my tv. thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1024153]

>>1024134
it shouldn't fuck up your TV, just degauss it after turning it sideways.

[Anonymous No.1024170]

>>1024153
hrm, my fat old tube tv doesn't have a degauss feature (that I'm aware of)
my viewsonic crt monitor does, but that's been having discoloration problems for awhile, and I don't wanna make it worse. If I had the real estate I would just get a dedicated 3:4 tv setup for shmups.

I really need a swivel mount for one of my flatscreens

[Anonymous No.1024184]

>>1024153
that is a sexy joystick btw, what do the 2 buttons on the right do? The half-green half-pink ones? turbo?

[Anonymous No.1024193]

>>1024184
They're just R2 and L2 I think, it's a playstation 2/3/pc stick.

[Anonymous No.1024197]

>>1024193
L1 and L2 I mean.

[Anonymous No.1024205]

pardon the emulation talk, but is Cave emulation still absent in current builds? i bet this scared the devs pretty hard

[Anonymous No.1024212]

>>1024205
You mean CV1000 emulation?

Nah.

[Anonymous No.1024294]

>>1023682
Battle Bakraid is basically a better Batrider.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1024301]

>>1024205
The official MAME builds don't support CV1000, due to an agreement with Cave. CV1000 is only supported in forks. And there's still no Daifukkatsu rom dump.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1024302]

>>1024294
Try saying that five times fast!

[Anonymous No.1024406]

>>1024294
Come on now Bakraid is great but that scoring system is straight outta crapton.Batrider has literally everything and then some it's arguably one of Yagawa's best.

[Anonymous No.1025005]

>>1024301
Might be a stupid question, but why isn't there a Daifukkatsu dump? Just nobody that owns it has the means or need to rip it? Also what about Saidaioujou?

A little curious about Akai Katana, but that's readily available at freaking Gamestop so I dont really care.

[Anonymous No.1025127]

>>1024294

hahahahah no

[Anonymous No.1025162]

So uh, how come Fire Shark still has no sound in MAME?

It runs on the same hardware as all other Toaplan games which do have sound.

[Anonymous No.1025168]

>>1025162
You can get the sound work on thundermame32+, you'll just need the sound samples from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?5bw1qpq2x4die

[Anonymous No.1025308]

What are some of /vr/'s favorite 2600 shmups?

[Anonymous No.1025463]

>>1023741
Essentials? Well, Soukyogurentai is one of them, in my opinion.

Salamander Deluxe Pack or Sexy Parodius would be another, for ultimate Konami action.

Some people recommend Battle Garrega or Radiant Silvergun, but once your import prices hit the triple digits I tend to stop caring about it. Especially when RSG can be had on XBLA and Garegga is just as easily emulated.

Cheaper games might be Sonic Wings Special (very approachable game), and Thunder Force V (though it has a far cheaper PS1 US port that's more or less as good as the Saturn version).

[Anonymous No.1026578]

>>1025308
River Raid

[Anonymous No.1026632]

>tfw play at least 1 coin of dodonpachi every day and 90% of the time I can't get pass the second stage boss
fuck that bitch. it always kills me at the very end when i'm about to destroy it.

i'm not allowing myself to lose more than 1 life or using bombs btw (sometimes i do with that fucking tank near the end of the stage though)

is there any way i can save on mame so i can play stage 2 over and over again?

[Anonymous No.1026682]

>>1026632
I always laserbomb it after "just a couple more shots". Stage 3 boss is much easier.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1026809]

What do you think is the coolest-looking ship in a shmup?

I think the ship from Cho Ren Sha is pretty badass looking. It looks sleek, fast, and powerful.

I also like Ketsui's ships a lot, because I feel like combat helicopters are an underused concept in the genre.

[Anonymous No.1027000]

>>1026809
Tiger Schwert is sexy. I also love the look of the Flame Viper from Battle Bakraid.

[Anonymous No.1027025]

>>1026632
Bomb it. That boss felt like a big difficulty spike to me compared to the other early bosses, because he usually shoots his last barrage of bullets before you beat it stupidly fast.

[Anonymous No.1027758]

>>1026632
>is there any way i can save on mame so i can play stage 2 over and over again?
Shift+F7

[Anonymous No.1027848]

The best stick for shmups, to my knowledge, is the Seimitsu LS-40, which is much tighter than the usual LS-32 or Sanwa JLF used for fighters. They just have too much deadzone for small precise movements.

>>1027758
That's way too cumbersome. I like changing it to spacebar myself.

[Anonymous No.1027881]

>>1027848
Why not just use a keyboard?

[Anonymous No.1027882]

>>1027848
By the way, the easiest, cheapest way to get a stick of your own is to buy this:

http://amzn.com/B004M25NNQ

...and then replace the parts and art with whatever you want. This model's designed to be stupid easy to swap parts; takes like 10 minutes. For shmups, I recommend the Seimitsu LS-40 stick and Sanwa buttons.

[Anonymous No.1027893]

>>1027881
Movement is easier and smoother on a stick. Diagonals in particular are much better.

[Anonymous No.1028290]

>>1027848
>The best stick for shmups, to my knowledge, is the Seimitsu LS-40
Such bullshit spouted by people who clearly dont play to a decent standard its simply preference.

[Anonymous No.1028296]

>>1027893
Tell that to Prometheus who has the current western record for ddp daioujou with keyboard or Mrmonkeyman with his record in Ketsui with a saturn pad or all the top touhou players who use keyboards.Personally i have used both sanwa stick and mad catz pad both have minor pros and cons.

[Anonymous No.1028303]

>>1027882
isn't the LS-32(01) the standard Shmup stick? I could have sworn that was the case, I only play fgs though so I don't keep up with this

[Anonymous No.1028306]

>>1027848
LS-40 is the Neo Geo stick, most jp arcades have LS-32 sticks for their shmups, occasionally you find LS-56/LS-58. I've never come across a candy cab for shmups that has a LS-40 in there.

[Anonymous No.1028554]

>>1012598

why are saturn fans so stuck up and ignorant

dc >>>>> saturn

[Anonymous No.1028596]

Any controller is good enough if you practice enough. If I recall, one of the best Futari Ultra players in the world uses the vanilla 360 pad, and that thing is horrible.

As long as what you're using isn't a keyboard with massive input delay or ghosting, you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.1028616]

>>1028596

I love this thing.

[Anonymous No.1028636]

>>1028554
b-b-but I own both..
You probably think that because Saturn has more expensive shooters

[Anonymous No.1028638]

Anyone play this? you can make a Shump with it. And the second disc has 102 demo games made with it!


Also any Paradous fans here?

[Anonymous No.1028642]

>>1022201
The sad thing is, despite the intro, Zero Wing is actually a fun game

[Anonymous No.1028756]

>>1026682
>>1027025
ok i'm bombing this nigger thx
>>1027758
not working fuc

[Anonymous No.1028779]

>>1028756
>ok i'm bombing this nigger thx
How long have you been playing STGs? I don't want to sound like a dick but with some practice you shouldn't struggle to dodge that.

[Anonymous No.1028859]

Am I a casual if I play ChoRenSha with an external program that lets me autofire?

[Anonymous No.1028865]

>>1028859
Autofire's pretty common in shmups. Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.1028874]

>>1028865
>Autofire's pretty common in shmups

I know, that's why. Playing with autofire doesn't really feel like cheating to me, because it just seems like something that -should- be there.

[Anonymous No.1028913]

What's the most recent shumpmame/Mame version that isn't garbage and doesn't requires me to have 500 different versions of the same goddamn emulator just so I can play a game.

also is Radiant Silvergun finally playable?

[Anonymous No.1028920]

>>1028913
I use EmuCR-MAMEPlus-r4925-x86
Nah, still plays like shit also overrated

[Anonymous No.1028923]

>>1028913
I'm using EmuCR-MAMEPlus-r4925-x86
Nah, still plays like shit also overrated

[Anonymous No.1028983]

>>1028642
What's funny is that I think one of the devs said that Zero Wing was never meant to come out in the first place. I think it was just a training project for new Toaplan recruits.

[Anonymous No.1028991]

What's the hardest shmup ever?

I always hear it's Mushihimesame Futari, but I want you professional shmuppers to weigh in with YOUR opinions.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1028995]

>>1028642
>>1028983
It has awesome music. And I like the Raiden-esque weapon progression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIpdZqYJboQ

[Anonymous No.1028996]

>>1028991
I have futari for 360 but still, I think DaiOiJou is the hardest in cave library

[Anonymous No.1029015]

>>1028996
DOJ is really easy unless you're talking about White Label, but even then, it's only hard if you're going for a 2-ALL of it.

Taking away all of your lives at the end of the loop is just cruel.

[Anonymous No.1029027]

>>1029015
I never played DOJ on default settings. Only v.hard c=auto
Thats only my opinion, I rarely play nonCave games. I'm trying to play games with good hard-enjoyment ratio

[Anonymous No.1029081]

>>1029015
That's something I really don't understand, why is DOJ Black Label so much easier? I thought the whole point of BL releases is to be a harder, more competitive version of the game.

>that feel when you will probably never play Dodonpachi Blue Label

[Anonymous No.1029197]

>>1029081
It's harder for score players, but much easier for survival players. The patterns are toned down by a lot, and the hyper fills much quicker.

Supposedly, some Mexican has Blue Label. Who the hell knows though, from what I've heard Mexicans only care about DonPachi, so he's probably just talking out his ass.

Still find it really funny that Japan and Mexico have underground cults for DP and regularly battle each other, very secretive when it comes to their techniques. All you'll see from these guys is the end-game scoreboard, not even any hope seeing them play in an arcade because they just kill themselves when you watch. While DDP has a few secretive players, they're very rare.

[Anonymous No.1029235]

>>1029197
I don't think those groups actually exist. I think they are myths perpetuated by one or more people on jp.

[Anonymous No.1029256]

>>1029197
>>1029235
if you cant see someone do it why would you fucking trust them? They might be cheating

[Anonymous No.1029332]

>>1029197
Haha that's funny.

The announcer in Donpachi always sounded like such a frat bro to me.

Like when you get game over "woah bro, you need some practice!"

[Anonymous No.1029371]

>>1029081
>Dodonpachi Blue Label
>Dodonpachi Black Label

[Anonymous No.1029560]

>>1012582
better grafixx

[Anonymous No.1030443]

Dodonpachi Daioujou has some pretty fuckdiculous requirements for getting the true ending.

>have to beat first loop on a single credit
>must also meet one of the three requirements:
>1: Get ten bee tokens on a single life in at least three levels
>2: Lose no more than two lives
>3: Use no more than three bombs
>the game fucking takes away all your extra lives, so you start the second loop with no lives
>if you get game over in the second loop there are no continues

What other games have crazy-hard requirements for reaching the TLB?

[Anonymous No.1030460]

>>1029371
As much as I love DDP, this is kind of true. Second loops are a lazy cop-out to add more content.

[Anonymous No.1030561]

>>1030443
why not have a fucking butten press code to unlock the 2nd loop. if you are actually good enough to play loop 2 than loop 1 is going to boring.

[Anonymous No.1030649]

>>1028756
Try F5 to save then, some (shmupmame) have save at F5 and load at F9.

[Anonymous No.1030653]

>>1028913
Shmupmame 4 is good, also if you want to play Radiant Silvergun on an emulator use SSF. Every 3D game is shit in mame.

[Anonymous No.1030662]

>>1028991
Yagawa games (Recca, Battle Garegga, Armed Police Batrider, Battle Bakraid, Ibara, Pinksweets, Muchi Muchi Pork) are really hard with the exception of normal courses in batrider and bakraid.

>>1028996
In my opinion Pinksweets and Ibara are the most challenging games from Cave, if you fuck up the rank you're pretty much dead.

[Anonymous No.1030682]

>>1030443
Ketsui has some reall ridiculous requirements to get to the TLB.

>beat the first loop on one credit
>without using bombs
>without dying once

Then you have to beat this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPLHUwfb6E

[Anonymous No.1030709]

I love compile games.

So close to beating this game but the last level keeps kick my ass.

[Anonymous No.1030712]

which is more difficult
the old shmups of the gradius, raiden, r-type era or the new bullet hell stuff?

[Anonymous No.1030716]

>>1030712
Both are difficult, but bullet hell games usually have really easy first two or three levels, while older more traditional shmups try to rape you from the get go (Toaplan games, Image Fight).

[Anonymous No.1030741]

>>1030709
I finally beat Zanac twice this year, though the first time was with some save stating to retry difficult spots. The second time was a clean run.

Felt good, man. I've owned that game since I was about 11, and I'm 31 now. Took me long enough.

Still haven't beaten Gun Nac or Space Megaforce.

[Anonymous No.1030753]

>tate
>the screen is rotated
>roTATE
>english-speakers pronouncing it taw-tay like it's japanese

[Anonymous No.1030756]

What's a beginner friendly bullet hell game?

[Anonymous No.1030757]

>>1030756
Deathsmiles, Espgaluda and Blue Wish Resurrection +

[Anonymous No.1030759]

>>1030757
Thank you.
Is the PS2 port of Espgaluda a good port?
Also from these 3 games which should I try next?

What are good traditional /vr/ shmups for beginners?

[Anonymous No.1030768]

>>1030759
buy black label for dodonpachi (800msp)
it's awesome and worth for the soundtrack alone

[Anonymous No.1030772]

>>1030759
The PS2 port of Espgaluda is excellent, but it's fully playable on mame too.

[script writer kibe No.1030794]

http://amzn.com/B004M25NNQ
>this beast is usable on the NES, Master System, SNES, and Genesis

[Anonymous No.1030813]

>>1030741
wtf
Zanac is the most difficult compile game for me. Ive never beaten it.

Gun Nac and space mega force only took me a week though and felt way easier

[Anonymous No.1031192]

>>1030716
Toaplan games are always either too easy (and boring) or too stupidly difficult.

[Anonymous No.1031224]

>>1030813
shit nigga I beat gun nac in my first sitting and I'm terrible, zanac's difficulty get out of hand fast if you play it a certain way

[Anonymous No.1031245]

>>1030813
I haven't owned Gun Nac or Space Megaforce for 20 years. That's why I beat Zanac first.

Pic related; obviously from the savestate run (the other one was on my NES so I don't have screencaps of it). Maxed out Fire 1 is surprisingly brutal.

[Anonymous No.1031274]

Rayxanber II is one of the most insanely hard shmups on the PC Engine, which already is known for it's huge amount of shmups.

There's also Rayxanber III, which is easier and a little more balanced. It also has a kickass soundtrack:
http://youtu.be/E4RpHe3JgjU?t=5m40s

[Anonymous No.1031280]

>>1030813
have you asked your doctor about Zanac Neo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85D4U_hJxj0

[Anonymous No.1031283]

>>1031274
Too bad the whole series is shit...

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1031516]

>>1030772
You will only get the cool Arrange mode on PS2 though!

>>1030759
>good traditional /vr/ shmups for beginners
Fantasy Zone
Pop 'n Twinbee
Darius Gaiden if you take an easy path (the second topmost path)
1941: Counterattack

[Anonymous No.1031540]

>>1028991
The hardest shmup ever is Gradius III arcade. It rarely gives you the tools to succeed but when you are doing good it feels amazing.

>>1028859
I wish the windows port had autofire built in. It gets tedious after a while.

>>1030460
It might be, and this is a theory, that the Cave developers are out of touch with reality. Just maybe.

[Anonymous No.1031548]

>>1031540
>he hardest shmup ever is Gradius III
Sorry, I guess what I meant to say is, what's the hardest shmup that's actually well designed?

[Anonymous No.1031559]

>>1031548
gradius is well designed

[Anonymous No.1031563]

>>1031548
Batrider advanced course.

[Anonymous No.1031572]

Are shmups multiplayer fun? Or does it just make a big clusterfuck?

[Anonymous No.1031589]

>>1031572
Depends on a game, bullet hells usually get pretty damn chaotic in multiplayer, but they can be fun. Ikaruga is really fun with a friend, you can do superior tactics with 2 different color ships in that game. Also Jamestown is a fun multiplayer game, since it was designed that way.

Akai Katana is pretty fun in multiplayer too.

[Anonymous No.1031595]

>>1031548
>Gradius
>not well designed

HEY GUYS HEY

LOOK AT ME

GUYS HEY

GUYS I DON'T LIKE POPULAR GAMES

GUYS YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ME

I SAID I DON'T LIKE GRADIUS, AM I COOL YET?

[Anonymous No.1031602]

>>1031595
Have you played the arcade version of Gradius III?

[Anonymous No.1031603]

>>1028991
Dimahoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_cmrbKA-U

[Anonymous No.1031609]

>>1031603
>that forward-reverse bullets
I like it. Must try it in near future

[Anonymous No.1031679]

>>1031602
I have and I made this post: >>1031540

GIII is a well-designed game. It's often tough AND unfair, but the game does give you the tools to succeed if you're willing to persevere. It has its own 'meta-game' where the goal is to exploit the game into letting you survive, e.g. using the slowdown caused by the lasers, positioning the options to take down any boss in seconds, etc.

[Anonymous No.1031680]

>>1031679
How can you call a game that you openly admit is unfair "well-designed"?

[Anonymous No.1031685]

>>1031680
My PS3 copy of Ketsui just came in today, feels like it plays smoother than on mame. Could be just be though.

X-mode is fun as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1031689]

>>1031685
Could be just me though that is.

[Anonymous No.1031695]

>>1031685
Doesn''t MAME have some sort of slight input lag? I thought that was why SHMUPMAME existed.

[Anonymous No.1031708]

>>1031695
I was playing it on shmupmame earlier. Feels like there's more frames.

[Anonymous No.1031715]

>>1028991
I might as well try here.

Does anyone remember/know of a bullet hell game in the difficulty range of Mushihimesame Futari, which had enemies from historical japan in it? Like those old scroll drawings - samauri and such.

I found it years ago on youtube, it had more classical sounding music and the bullets were abit slow to move into huge screen covering patterns.

Ringing any bells?

[Anonymous No.1031718]

>>1031715
I think it had a japanese title as well.

[Anonymous No.1031720]

>>1031715
Guwange

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1031721]

>>1031679
>>1031680
Gradius III isn't unfair. Gradius III is just brutally well-designed.

[Anonymous No.1031727]

>>1031715
Guwange?

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1031735]

>>1031708
Could have something to do with arcade Ketsui not running at exactly 60 Hz while the port does. The arcade version is running at 59.something Hz so there's something between 59 and 60 frames per second. The console port speeds this up to an even 60 Hz so it feels ever so slightly smoother.

I think I read it in some version comparison on Cave-STG back when it was still around.

[Anonymous No.1031734]

>>1031720
>>1031727
Damnit.

That ticks all the boxes but that's not it. The stages were just simply coloured rooms and the art for the bosses was more like this.
Thanks for the guesses though, your've got a good knowledge.

[Anonymous No.1031740]

>>1031735
Here's all "samurai" shmups I know of:
Homura
Sengoku Aces
Tengai
Guwange
Vasara
Vasara 2

Maybe it's a doujin title?

[Anonymous No.1031742]

>>1031740
What's wrong with me today, was meant to reply this: >>1031734

[Anonymous No.1031748]

>>1031695
Real arcade cabinets have input lag. Shmupmame removes input lag that's supposed to be there.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1031757]

>>1031740
>Homura

Come to think of it, a Madoka shmup could be pretty kickass. Mami is already pretty much a shmup character.

[Anonymous No.1031779]

Post your tate setups.

[Anonymous No.1031883]

>>1031740
It's none of those sorry. If it helps, it had a plain black screen and looked like a tech demo for a shooter, it was set to kind of classical sounding music

[Anonymous No.1031895]

>>1031883
So it's a doujin title? Did it look like a joke game? It might be one of gustavs games.

[Anonymous No.1031917]

>>1031680
I suppose he puts it better:>>1031721
Gradius III demands a lot from you and it sometimes feels like it demands far too much. But it's a game you have to really know the system in order to survive.

[Yui Hirasawa !GITAHxgCoo No.1031930]

>>1031734
>>1031715
>>1031883
Touhou?

[Anonymous No.1031942]

>>1031883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefAhzoAWSo

[Anonymous No.1031947]

>>1031930
It was definetly not a touhou. The title was in japanese and I think it was a demo for a new bullet hell game.

[Anonymous No.1031989]

>>1031942
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefAhzoAWSo
N-no. Ghandi?

[Anonymous No.1032009]

I have a nes, snes, n64, gamecube, ps1 , ps2, sega genesis / 32x / sega cd, 3ds, ps vita ps2, ps3, dreamcast,gameboy/color/gba, original xbox, and finally my question is recommend me some Shumps on any of these consoles.

[Anonymous No.1032020]

>>1031989
Wat. Someone made a shmup where you play as Gandhi?

I'm so downloading this.

[Anonymous No.1032026]

>>1032009
Ops listed ps2 twice, I'm a bit tired. I'm mostly interested in ps1 shumps as my ps1 has a mod chip in it.

[Anonymous No.1032047]

>>1032009
Vita has the PSP Gradius Collection, which has I, II, III, IV, and Gaiden. PS2 has Taito Legends 1 & 2, both of which have some stellar shmups, although I have no clue how well they play. 3DS has that one Streetpass shmup, Nano Assault, and Kokuga. Dreamcast has NeoGeo Dev Team games, all of which are shmup or shmup inspired, there's Ikaruga, Border Down, and a hell of a lot more than I can remember. SNES has a couple Darius games, and that's all I can remember. Xbox has Panzer Dragoon Orta, and I can't think of anything else, really.

[Anonymous No.1032054]

I don't usually play a lot a shmups, but I've been trying out some Touhou games lately an it's been a lot of fun!

Is it ok to talk about that here? I feel like it's the kind of subject that would get people to tell me to fuck off to /a/

[Anonymous No.1032056]

>>1032054
Probably should mention I was talking about the pc98 games.

[Anonymous No.1032061]

>>1032054
>>>/jp/

[Anonymous No.1032067]

>>1032054
>>1032056

PC-98 Touhou is perfectly fine here, don't get discouraged by shmup elitists, they don't belong anywhere but on shmups forum.

[Anonymous No.1032065]

>>1032026
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/phenominal-playstation-ps1-2d-shooters-shmups-library

[Anonymous No.1032076]

>>1032047
Thank you kind Sir!

[Anonymous No.1032089]

>>1032065
Thanks for the list, I'm going to need a lot more cdrs.

[Anonymous No.1032093]

>>1028638
Why play that when you can play Dezaemon Plus?

We should have a competition to see who makes the best shmup

[Anonymous No.1032115]

>>1032067
PC-98 sucks. Windows or die.

[Anonymous No.1032124]

>>1028638
I like Parodious. Played it as a kid and didn't understand it and hated it. Went back to play it recently and I can say that I had shit taste as a kid.

[Anonymous No.1032125]

>>1028991

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7682126
Here's a TAS video featuring the 2nd penalty area of Image Fight. I'm under the assumption that this is the only way to get through that part of the game since I have yet to see a live clear.

[Anonymous No.1032131]

>>1032115

k, whatever. enjoy listening to poor quality MIDI trumpets all day.

[Anonymous No.1032137]

>>1032131
I understand you're probably trying to get a rise out of me, but I really do have to ask: do you actually not have a decent MIDI library?

[Anonymous No.1032194]

>>1032009
Genesis:

Wings of Wor
Cotton
Fire Shark
Sagaia (darius 2)
Truxton

PS3:

Ketsui
Mamoru-kun Cursed!
Under Defeat HD

Dreamcast:

Zero Gunner 2
Ikaruga
Border Down
Under Defeat

PS2:

Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou (NTSC-J)
Espgaluda (NTSC-J)
Ibara (NTSC-J)
Mushihimesama (NTSC-J)
Dragon Blaze
Gradius V
R-Type Final

[Anonymous No.1032198]

>>1032194
>1032194
ty sir

[Anonymous No.1032197]

>>1026632
This thread made me all into shooting games so I tried this DoDonPachi the kids are talking about. I shredded your level 2 boss just now on my coin.

I used DirectDraw instead of Direct3D. Seems it ups your skill by reducing input lag. Try it out.

[Anonymous No.1032204]

>>1032009
You should check this out:
http://retroconsoles.wikia.com/wiki/Shmup

[Anonymous No.1032207]

>>1012131
the open source version of tyrian(opentyrian) is pretty good. it runs much faster on turbo speed and low graphics setting than when i run it in DOS. that essentially creates a new difficulty level.

and biohazard battle got me stuck recently.
http://youtu.be/8eSuJGiRys8

interesting themed shooter. everything looks alien/organic

[Anonymous No.1032208]

>>1032207
Tyrian is never good.

[Anonymous No.1032275]

>>1032208
>IMPLYING PC NOT MASTER RACE

[Anonymous No.1032467]

>>1014293
In terms of Artwork, Galaxy Policewoman Legend Sapphire on the PC-Engine Arcade CD-ROM is hard to beat. The designs were made by Mika Akitaka, the same guy responsible for Galaxy Fraulein Yuna and MS Girls (Gundam Girls)

It's also hard to beat in terms of how much money a legit copy of the game sells for.

[Anonymous No.1032489]

Guys, I found an N64 w/ 1 controller at Salvation Army without hookups for $11.98(CAD) plus tax, should I buy it tomorrow?

The catch is that there is no hookups for the N64. I am only looking to get an n64 to play games, so I suppose I will need to buy the a/v cables and the n64 hookups online.

Thoughts? Insight? Will it still be a good deal despite me needing to buy the hookups separately?

[Anonymous No.1032496]

>>1032489
If you're looking to play Shmups on it, then HELL NO! As great as the N64 was, it had very, very few Shumps available for it.

[Anonymous No.1032513]

>>1032496
star fox lol

[Anonymous No.1032561]

>>1030753
>http://amzn.com/B004M25NNQ

[Anonymous No.1032583]

>>1030753

[Anonymous No.1032703]

>>1012741

Man, that third end-stage portrait was the funniest thing I've ever seen in a shmup (outside of those shmups that are really meant to be hilarious).

>>1031740

>>Vasara

Shooting astronaut samurai was thrillin'. I liked the games.

[Anonymous No.1032719]

Does a 3d shmup exists? and how does it translate all the fun?

[Anonymous No.1032742]

>>1032719

There are rail shooters.

Try out Panzer Dragoon or Rez.

Not retro, but I've always viewed EDF 2017 as a "what if" for 3D shmups even though it a TPS.

[Anonymous No.1032768]

>>1032719

By '3D,' do you mean 'hit enemies that are not on the same horizontal/vertical plane as the player?'

If so, you can look at these games:
>>Rayforce
>>Raystorm
>>Raycrisis
>>Einhander
>>Kamui

[Anonymous No.1032865]

>>1032719
Space Harrier is a lot of fun, if somewhat mindless.

>Welcome to the fantasy zone!

[Anonymous No.1032878]

Nani is minna's daikobatsu no shuutingu gemu? Atashi no are Dodonpachi Daioujou, Chorensha, Mushihimesama Futari, to Desusumairuzu.

[Anonymous No.1032904]

I've heard ShmupMAME causes graphical glitches with the backgrounds or something. Is there a good example video of this?

[Anonymous No.1032957]

>>1032719
Does this count as "3D shmup"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8CMoOm-yg

The camera sometimes goes to behind your ship.

[Anonymous No.1032959]

>>1032904
Nah, it may causes some screen tearing in some games, but that's fixable with v-sync in Shmupmame 4.

[Anonymous No.1033161]

Just beat Fantasy Zone II. I guess it was essentially the same game as the first, but I rather liked the first game more for some reason. The downgrade in graphical quality probably didn't help either; though the art direction was still fun as ever.

Also, seriously wtf ending.
* Who was the mastermind leading the enemy forces that so closely resembled Opa-Opa and fought with the same functional weapon? <cute pic of Opa-Opa
with a thought bubble with a big fat ? in it>
* It was in reality, Opa-Opa's other self.
* Due to the emotional stress brought about as a result of a war during his
childhood, he developed a dual personality of virtue and vice, unknown even to
himself. <pic of Opa-Opa with a sweatdrop with a smiley on one side and an evil
grin on the other>
* Only his father was aware of this fact.
* Splitting into 2 seperate beings, he became in addition to his role as the
hero, the enemy's mastermind, thus because of the paternal bond existing
between them, his father had no alternative but to assume the role of their
leader. <pic of Opa-Opa (or his father) with a tear in his "eye">
* Now, as a result of Opa-Opa's courageous victory, the evil being that dwelled
within him has been destroyed. Deeply moved, Opa-Opa can no longer contain his
tears, which as they fall, signify his return to the sole path of
righteousness. <big Opa-Opa & little Opa-Opa before a sunset *weep*>
* Opa-Opa vows that never again will war occur.
* THE END

[Anonymous No.1033235]

>>1033161
Well, if that helps you, I cannot say if the first Fantasy Zone ending was either hilarious or sad. It may be because the last boss is a multicoloured egg-shaped giant ship that cries of happiness when his son, a smaller egg-shaped ship with wings, defeats him.

[Anonymous No.1033342]

Playing Mr Heli now (aka Battle Chopper). This game is actually really neat! I can't believe I never heard of it before. Really fun game.

[Anonymous No.1033620]

>>1012348
I've played a billion danmaku, all are pretty similar with different art. Still love playing them & still love Einhander. Your feel is wrong.

[Anonymous No.1033661]

Why not more made like Vulgus. Game is so sweet.

[Anonymous No.1034037]

So why does everyone seem to hate Dodonpachi 2?

The original Donpachi tends to get "meh" reactions, which is understandable because it's the first one and it's pretty different from the subseries it spawned... But mention Bee Storm and the general shmup fan reaction is "BOO, HSSSSS"

Is DDP2 really that bad?

[Anonymous No.1034061]

>>1034037
It's really different, and wasn't developed by Cave.

[Anonymous No.1034091]

>>1034061
Pretty much this. It is canon, though >playing shmups for the story. A few of the end-of-level screens in Dodonpachi Daioujou say "Donpachi Chapter 4."

[Anonymous No.1034190]

>>1034037
Have you actually played it? The whole thing just feels off. It feels like some Chinese company made a DoDonPachi knock-off, which isn't really far from the truth actually.

[Anonymous No.1034304]

>>1028779
stg? shooting games?
it's nothing serious, really. i have always liked cave games and recently downloaded 30 gb of mame roms. dodonpachi was in it and since i remember vaguely playing it years ago i started to play it every day because it's fun.
2 weeks?
i really haven't improved much.
>>1030649
shmup mame doesn't want to recognize my dodonpachi rom wtf
i'll try again

[Anonymous No.1034350]

>>1034304
this is what i mean when i say shmup mame is fucking with me
files behind are the rom directory

[Anonymous No.1034449]

>>1034037
It's a fun little game, enjoyable. I find it underwhelming compared to DDP though.

>>1034350
I checked my ddonpach.zip and it looks like
u7.bin
u62.bin
u61.bin
u60.bin
u6.bin
u53.bin
u52.bin
u51.bin
u50.bin
eeprom-ddonpach.bin
b2.u26
b1.u27

Running Shmupmame v4.2, everything works fine. You should be able to find a DDP rom that comes with the eeprom easily, which would be good to download in the case of the rom being outdated.

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1034453]

>>1034350
Could be that whatever you got is full of outdated roms that wont work on a current MAME.

[Anonymous No.1034720]

It's kinda cool how two of Dodonpachi 2's bosses appear as minibosses in Daioujou.

[Anonymous No.1034787]

>>1034350
What Windows Custom Theme is that?

[Anonymous No.1034917]

>>1034350
Rom Hustler is a good site for up to date roms.

[Anonymous No.1035065]

Arino plays Mushihimesama Futari

[Anonymous No.1035128]

>>1034449
>>1034453
>>1034917
fuckin rom totally tricked me wtf does he think it is? im gonna wreck it's shit :^)
>>1034787
it's a windows 8 theme. i don't really remember the name, but if u want it i could search it for u babeh :^)

[Anonymous No.1035293]

I know there's not much point in analyzing the story of a shmup, but what is Hibachi? I always hear it described as an alien superweapon, but who are these aliens who created it? It's constantly being destroyed and rebuilt, usually by humans, so it seems kinda silly to call it "alien."

[Anonymous No.1035327]

>>1035293
I always thought Hibachi was actually created by humans, and the whole "aliens" angle was just a lie used to control the Donpachi Corps.

[Anonymous No.1035328]

>>1035293
Well you're tricked into thinking it's an alien weapon.

[Anonymous No.1035396]

>>1035293
In Donpachi and DoDonpachi, the real enemy is the commander of the Donpachi Corps. He wants to kill all humans with his army, and he uses "alien invasion" as a cover.

In Daioujou, the enemy is the last surviving remnants of his army who have been living below the lunar surface for a century, slowly rebuilding themselves.

In Dai-Fukkatsu the enemy is the commander again, because lol time travel. Other enemies in this game are element daughters, who were actually good guys in Daioujou. They went from good to bad because they were inhuman cyborgs and humans basically treated them like shit.

That's all you really need to know. The plot is kind of headache-inducing if you try to overthink it.

[Anonymous No.1035551]

>>1035293
The plot is there are lots of spaceships and you blow them up for points.

Who really cares, seriously? I don't know what the plot to Ketsui, Deathsmiles, or Mushihime is either, and I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.1036490]

>>1035293
In Donpachi and DoDonpachi, the real enemy is the commander of the Donpachi Corps. He wants to kill all humans with his army, and he uses "alien invasion" as a cover.

In Daioujou, the enemy is the last surviving remnants of his army who have been living below the lunar surface for a century, slowly rebuilding themselves.

In Dai-Fukkatsu the enemy is the commander again, because lol time travel. Other enemies in this game are element daughters, who were actually good guys in Daioujou. They went from good to bad because they were inhuman cyborgs and humans basically treated them like shit.

That's all you really need to know. The plot is kind of headache-inducing if you try to overthink it.

[Anonymous No.1036714]

>>1012381
nice, thanks.

[Anonymous No.1036758]

Maybe the guy in the deleted JSR will see this.

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1036390/#1036687

I assume he was referring to that one helicopter shmup by G.Rev, which was actually pretty good if you're into those kind of games. The thing is that even though after the DC died, some developers still ported their games over to the DC because the hardware was very similar to Sammy Atomiswave/Naomi2 boards, so they probably figured, why not.

[Anonymous No.1036794]

watch out GOAT coming through

[Anonymous No.1037559]

Do XBox360 / PS2 / PS3 ports of Cave shooters allow you to rotate the display? Can I use an HDMI - to - VGA converter on my consoles and use them with a big fat CRT monitor on its side?

[Anonymous No.1037823]

>>1036794
A goat? In R-Type? Where?

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1037949]

>>1037559
Yup. Though I just play them on a rotated CRT television with the cables that come with the consoles.

The 360 ports also allow you to freely resize the game window to fit your screen. Unfortunately they will always result in some uneven scaling of the output (you can hide this with a slight blur filter, but the blur filter is another problem itself), while the Daioujou and Espgaluda ports on PS2 give you a default, good-looking resolution for CRT.

[Anonymous No.1038178]

>>1037949
Do you know if Cave went the distance and made them render internally at 240 pixels rather than 480? Rather, that they output at 240p (a rarity with PS2 games, but possible)? I've got a Mushi disc here for PS2 but I want to know that it will work right, I can't have 480i plebing up my TV.

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1038196]

>>1038178
Only Espgaluda and Daioujou seem to run at native (good looking) resolution. Not sure if it's supposed to be 240p or whatever, but it looks great.

Does not apply to Mushi and Ibara on PS2, both are considered shit ports with inaccurate emulation and heavy blurring of the graphics.

[Anonymous No.1038672]

>>1038196
Mushi port is ok, it just looks like shit. Ibara port is shit though, it looks like shit and has all the slowdown removed.

[Anonymous No.1038707]

>>1038196
>>1038672
They both actually look better using component definitely playable especially ibara ...... archer had no problem getting J scores and beyond in the ps2 ibara practice mode so its good enough.

[Anonymous No.1038745]

>>1038707
>They both actually look better using component
Interesting. I'm using scart and they do look like shit. Maybe component is the olny way to go with them.

[Anonymous No.1038751]

Managed to make it all the way to the final stage of Giga wing today.

Such a rush of adrynaline.

I needed to use up way too many bombs just to get through the hail of bullets on the golden pyramid stage. 90% of my lives and bombs get consumed there.

Ruby is definitely my favorite pilot. I always perfered focus fire.

Any tips to help me finally 1cc this beast?

[Anonymous No.1038803]

>>1038751
>adrynaline
For fucks sake man....

[Anonymous No.1038823]

>>1038745
Are we talking about component at 480p or 480i? If it will run at 480p through component is this the trick? Makes it like a VGA Box with Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1038826]

>>1038823
>PS2 port of a 240p game
>Runs at 480i with a blur filter
EVERY FUCKING TIME

[Anonymous No.1040945]

Why aren't you playing Ketsui or Crimzon Clover right now?

[Anonymous No.1040987]

>>1040945
I'm too busy pleasuring myself to 東方

[Anonymous No.1040993]

>>1040987
>>>/jp/

[Anonymous No.1041001]

>>1040987
Don't bring that shrine maiden crap here.

[Anonymous No.1041140]

>>1041001
Why doesn't that Toohoo dude collab with Cave the way every Japanese company does with every other Japanese company and put a multiplication sign in between?

[Anonymous No.1041145]

>>1041140
ZUN would never stoop to their level.

[Anonymous No.1041276]

>>1041145
Haha I'll never play one of your shareware games as long as I live, suck my shrine maiden.

[Anonymous No.1041286]

>2013
>toho

[Anonymous No.1041293]

>>1041286
did the new one have these bosses with tons of gimmicks

like your sprite becoming 4 times larger and the entire screen flipping upside down? if that's true then that's pretty gay and it's really bad game design

[Anonymous No.1042207]

>>1041276
...shareware?

[Anonymous No.1042396]

>>1038823
>480p or 480i
I ran it at 480i on a 19inch lcd via component in tate and it was perfectly playable .... I now use slowpoke mame for cv1000 games and its not much different also perfectly playable.Ps2 arrange mode is a lot of fun to alongside the practice mode with a rank measurement bar it really is worth owning on ps2, people just moan to much.

[Anonymous No.1042450]

>>1042396
what lcd model?

[Anonymous No.1042515]

>>1041293
Nah, Touhou does funny things with bullets but it never does any interface screw.

[Anonymous No.1043008]

>>1041293
Yes STGs can never do anything new and gimmicks that fit the theme of the game are especially bad

[Anonymous No.1043142]

Lolis aside, is there art for shmups? Like spaceships and shit

[Anonymous No.1043149]

>>1042515
no dude, it really does flip the screen upside down

even if it's for just a few seconds it's fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.1043151]

>>1043142

[Anonymous No.1043167]

>>1043142

someone have hi-res scans of the concept art of rayforce?

I am looking for these and I don't even have a clue where or what to look after.

Yes I have spend a great amount of google with no results.

[Anonymous No.1043195]

>>1041140
>Hey, why doesn't ZUN team up with Cave?

Hey, why doesn't Chris Chandler team up with Nintendo?

[Anonymous No.1043481]

>>1043195
that

is the best comparison i've heard in my life

[Anonymous No.1044769]

>>1029197
the DDP Campaign version (blue label) was the prize for a score contest in Japan that SOF-WTN won, he released a few runs of it but then nothing else was released.

>>1029235
There was a group in Japan working on DP WTN & a few others, that have always been secretive about releasing strats, WTN has been like that for most of the games he plays though.

>>1029256
Japan's pretty strict with cheating and score submissions, runs have to be done in the arcade to be submitted for example, they've found players cheating before, made them remove their scores and band them from submitting again. Appose to western players that openly admit to cheating, still have their scores accepted and everyone still idolizes.

[Anonymous No.1044789]

Anyone else play android assault/Bari-arm on sega CD?

It's a pretty cool shmup but not many people have heard of it since it was on a dying console.

It's personally one of my favorite shmups from that era and in general.

[Anonymous No.1044791]

>>1043142
Oh, where to even start

[Anonymous No.1044801]

>>1044769
>Appose to western players that openly admit to cheating, still have their scores accepted and everyone still idolizes.
Are you one of those asshats who thinks practicing with savestates and doing runs in MAME is cheating?

[Anonymous No.1044802]

>>1044801
What is rapid fire

[Anonymous No.1044890]

>>1044802
>What is rapid fire
More fun than carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Anonymous No.1044891]

>>1044801
>asshats
Now now, no need to get upset.
Using save states is obviously cheating. Playing in MAME shouldn't be a problem, as long as you don't abuse the functions in a way that allows you to cheat

[Anonymous No.1044936]

>>1044769
Ah, yes. WTN is quite rude when it comes to new players asking for advice. I believe Prometheus was able to watch him play DDP when he went to Japan to play DOJBL, and he suicided all of his lives away on 2-2 or some shit and blamed it on sleepiness.

Very mysterious, you have to wonder if WTN just kills himself because he's self hating like many of the other top players, or if he actually wants to hide his strategy. I know top level players drop a perfectly good run and just start over, even if the mistake is really minor. I've heard tell of people just getting up and walking away when they're deep into the Ura loop, cursing at themselves for such a mistake. That's just insane if it's true..

[Anonymous No.1045005]

>>1044769
The US has standards too, did you not see the very /vr/ related tale of the Sauce King vs. the Boeing Engineer? In the US you need to submit high scores from a real arcade PCB, verified in person...unless you're the Sauce King and helped establish the standards themselves.

Then cronyism allows you to submit a blurry VHS tape of someone somewhere accomplishing a high score on some sort of software and become the high score champ again.

[Anonymous No.1045008]

>>1044890
Caravan respect Takahashi Meijin

[Anonymous No.1045093]

>>1024205
Where did you get this? I found a zip folder on my PC with this in it and a bunch of other shumps!

[Anonymous No.1045110]

Are the PC-98 Touhou games worth playing? I'm thinking of playing the series from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.1045119]

>>1045110
The Windows ones are better.

[Anonymous No.1045147]

>>1044936
Yes he started dying really early in the run too 1-3 was the first I think. He never intended to show him his real strats and was saying things like "don't bother with the 1-5 chain, it's too risky", he's been secretive about DDP for a long time so it's not surprising.

[Anonymous No.1045149]

>>1044936
>I've heard tell of people just getting up and walking away when they're deep into the Ura loop, cursing at themselves for such a mistake.

When will people stop repeating this myth?

[Anonymous No.1045158]

>>1045110
Yes, personally I find the PC-98 ones a lot more enjoyable than the 2nd generation windows games (10 onwards)

[Specter !X2XkK/gFuc No.1045176]

Does anyone know any obscure/interesting/underrated shmups.
I was thinking of making a separate thread, much in vein of my earlier platformer one, but then I realized it might be better to post here instead. So, anyone?

[Anonymous No.1045190]

>>1030794

I'm waiting for one of these to arrive which I have a Sanwa JLF stick and buttons to swap into for Tekken. I'm really getting in to shmups lately and now I'm regretting not ordering 2 of them to save on shipping. I've just noticed that the price has gone up now, too....

Anyway, the point is I'm thinking about getting another to put a Seimitsu LS-40-01 stick into. I have a question for anyone who plays with a stick - what are your thoughts on button choice? Does it matter to you?

[Anonymous No.1045207]

>>1045147
That's a pretty subtle way of being an asshole, but it's to be expected. He is a tournament level player after all, and we all know the nice guys are always the ones just before that level of play.

>>1045149
I don't think it's a myth. People have been reluctant of posting WR replays because of a fatal mistake that would make the entire run look bad. If they can hit Ura 100% of the time and they make a dumb mistake on something easy, I don't think they'd want to play anymore, especially if they're going for score.

[Anonymous No.1045220]

>>1045190
Anyone can confirm that?

[Anonymous No.1045259]

>>1045176
look above at bari-arm for sega cd.

[Anonymous No.1045303]

>>1045149
It happens, when SDD-Kaede was streaming Strikers II, he threw away quite a few runs late into the 2nd loop. The DFKBL WR holder throws away a lot of runs late on too. It depends on the player and game, sometimes they prefer to just finish the run for practice.

I know some players will finish a run with a good score and just walk away without putting in their name if it doesn't beat their hi score.

[Anonymous No.1045335]

>>1012131
>I noticed a unhealthy lack of shmup discussion in /vr/ so let's have a shmup thread.

I've recently acquired a translated script or two from Suguri 2.

[Anonymous No.1045374]

I cannot even begin to into Radiant Silvergun. At all. I'm not great at shmups (never 1cc'd anything) but I love them, and I've played tons, but Radiant Silvergun just straight up destroys my fragile anus.

I finally got past what I thought was the boss of the first stage (the one where you hide behind the pillars) and discovered that the stage just keeps going.

Goddamn. Is this game really just designed to pop testicle like grapes or do I extra suck at it for some reason?

[Anonymous No.1046060]

>>1045190
Sanwa buttons are much better for mashing.

>>1045220
Haven't tried the 56, but from experience I can say the 40 is definitely better than the 32 for shmups. The 32 is of course still great for fighting games, and is also somewhat better than the JLF in shmups.

[Anonymous No.1046072]

How good or bad ls-40 or ls-56 for fighters?

[Anonymous No.1046123]

Are you hooking these Seimitsu joysticks to a console pad or to a PC for MAME?

[Anonymous No.1046453]

>>1046072
I wouldn't recommend it.

[Anonymous No.1046608]

>>1045374
Radiant Silvergun is a strange beast. What version are you playing? If I remember correctly, in the Saturn version you can keep your weapon levels between runs, meaning you can concentrate on finishing the game rather than memorizing every coloured enemy pattern to score chains.

[Assreaver No.1047478]

Hey guys, I know that PLOT is not exactly necessary for a shmup, but I recently got a Japanese friend of mine to translate Raiden Fighters' storyline. What it says might surprise you...

"In AD90 unknown space invaders intent on colonizing the earth were repalled by the newest "Raiden" fighters. According to captured enemy troops, their planet had become too polluted through five civil wars and sought colonize the green earth. They called the 'Raiden' 'nightmares'. Raiden meant the return of high performance fighter groups used by the rebels in one of their world wars. This is the story about the rebel fighter groups."

Well my mind was blown when I read this. So much for space invaders, the Cranassians just wanted to colonize the Earth! And they created Gun Dogs squadron!

[Anonymous No.1049215]

>>1047478
The alltynex series has a pretty deep story.

[Anonymous No.1049240]

>>1047478
Jet is a game that makes me cry. I cry because of how "easy" it is and I can't make it past the Simulation phases, I cry because of random deaths, I cry because I missed a medal. I cry.

Thankfully, the game is fun enough that I can keep coming back to it and having a bunch of fun playing it. I've mostly figured out everything on my own, but I think I'm going to need to look up the locations of the miclus' for anything past Stage 01. And if I'm not mistaken, getting the RF1/2 medals in RFJ is accomplished by getting a maximum medal chain and destroying the miclus at the end, right? That seems to be how it works, but I've never tried destroying it without a full medal chain.

[Anonymous No.1050739]

>>1047478
Play Gleylancer for the Sega Genesis if you want a good storyline in your shmup.

[Anonymous No.1051368]

>>1046608
>1046608

The XBL version, and you can do that in the story mode. I still can't seem to do well.

[Anonymous No.1051369]

>Think I'm pretty good at shmups

>Buy Summer Carnival '92 Recca from the eshop when it comes out

I NEED ASSHOLE SURGERY. STAT.

I MAY NEVER HAVE A NORMAL ASSHOLE AGAIN BUT AT LEAST WE CAN REPAIR SOME OF THE DAMAGE

[Anonymous No.1051697]

>>1051369
Reminds me of this.

[Anonymous No.1051741]

Played the Genesis Truxton. Wow is it easier than the arcade version, for the better in my opinion. The arcade version had obscenely fast bullets that no mortal could reasonably keep up with without tons of sheer memorization.

[Anonymous No.1054803]

Can anyone recommend some games for a newbie in this genre? I've played sonic wings special, einhander, raiden 2, touhou 6 and some others that I don't remember the name.

[Anonymous No.1054872]

>>1054803
gun nac
guardian legend
touhou 6/10 (the best ones in the series)
death smiles
darius twins (on easy mode)
blazing lazers
thunderforce 3&4
Esp gala
elemental master

[Anonymous No.1054920]

>>1054872
Thank you very much

[Anonymous No.1055667]

>>1054872
>touhou 6/10 (the best ones in the series)
Please.

[Anonymous No.1056480]

>>1054803
Deathsmiles, Blue Wish Resurrection + and Espgaluda are pretty easy bullet hell shooters.
If you're looking for more traditional shooters just go for the classics like Gradius, Thunder Force and R-type, also check out Gun Nac, Musha and Blazing Lazers.

[Anonymous No.1056576]

Could someone explain to me the draw of older-style STGs? There are so many and everyone says they're good, but I just find them boring and not challenging. Even the difficult parts are boring because most of the time it's just very fast bullets or some sort of unique attack, and in either case you really don't see it coming if you're doing a blind run.

[Anonymous No.1056690]

>>1056576
That's just you, or maybe you just have played boring games?

[Anonymous No.1056863]

>>1056576
ive dodged pletnty of fast bullets in blind runs

the key to old shmups to move as much as possible (as opposed to new shmups where you move as little as possible)

your goal is to dodge the enemies aim
you only have to actually dodge the bullet once you fail to dodge the aim

[Anonymous No.1057484]

Somebody tell me a good shmup to get better at the genre with. Only one I've beaten without continues is Blazing Lazers.

Tell me one that actually feels like it requires reaction/execution more than trial and error/memorization.

Cool upgrade systems are a plus.

[Anonymous No.1057507]

>>1057484
Try Deathsmiles or Espgaluda.

[Anonymous No.1057527]

Never seen that before but it looks pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xr9aSPtKq4

[Anonymous No.1057536]

>>1024205
Nah but the old version that supported them is pretty easy to find

[Anonymous No.1057543]

>>1026682
>Stage 3 boss easier than Stage 2 boss
Really?

[Anonymous No.1057568]

>>1057484
You should just find a game that you really like and stick with it.

>>1057543
For me, yes. That final random spreadshot pattern always gets me, I've tried to practice it alot, but I usually just die there if I don't just bomb it.

[Anonymous No.1057628]

>>1057568
Yeah the fast one gets me a lot of the time too, I think if you destroy the bits at each side of him first he never does that pattern
Overall I find him a lot easier than the Stage 3 Boss though

[Anonymous No.1058204]

>>1057568
>That final random spreadshot pattern always gets me
It's targeted. All you have to do is move to the side a bit.

[Anonymous No.1058564]

>>1056576
Move more. You already know there will be fast bullets in older shoot 'em up's and you know they will kill you if you aren't moving when the enemy comes on screen to fire them.

So the solution is to keep moving up and down (or left to right if it is a vertical game).

Honestly more fun than a screen cluttered with a ton of slow bullets, or at least different bullets with different velocities.

[Anonymous No.1058574]

>>1058564
>Honestly more fun than a screen cluttered with a ton of slow bullets, or at least different bullets with different velocities.
Agreed. I'll never get the appeal of touhou. It doesn't even have a cool upgrade system. Shooting doesn't feel satisfying, either.

[Anonymous No.1058587]

>>1058574
It's mostly the music and simplicity. Touhou was never made to be complex or deep, and ZUN is known for character design and composing.

[Anonymous No.1058627]

>>1058574
I don't like Touhou either, but I do enjoy bullet hell type shooters more than traditional style shmups. Recently I've been in love with Ketsui and Battle Bakraid, both have really satisfying shooting especially Ketsui.

[Anonymous No.1058629]

>>1058627
I really should try Ketsui since I liked Death Label so much.

[Anonymous No.1058774]

>>1057568
I struggled all the time with the 1-2 boss, but I just practiced other things and then eventually it clicked once I started to practice 1-2 again. The pattern he shoots out depends on what phase he's in when you bring him down to low health. I'm pretty sure you can manipulate this by stalling him out if you want a certain pattern. I haven't tried it because I just kill him as quickly as possible when I play a run.

He has end two patterns, the needle bullet pattern and the fast burst. Personally, I feel less stressed dodging the fast burst because microtapping on the PS3 d-pad is really scary and sometimes feels inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.1059309]

>>1058574
>I'll never get the appeal of touhou.
The patterns are easily the most aesthetically appealing of any STG I've played, and the music is very memorable. The slow pace of the older games (6 - 9) can become a nuisance.

[Anonymous No.1062016]

Recipe for psikyo game:
1. boring stage with sparse enemies and bullets
2. boss that shoots really really fast
3. music or something, i'm not sure. i don't know much about shmup development.

[Anonymous No.1062030]

>>1058574

[Anonymous No.1062049]

>>1062030
Elitism really is a tumor.

[Anonymous No.1062053]

>>1058574
I like 2hu because it's a bit more forgiving than a lot of other shmups. I think it's a fun genre but I'm not very good at them.

[Anonymous No.1062490]

>>1058574
>It doesn't even have a cool upgrade system
what does?

[Anonymous No.1062493]

>>1062490
gradius, raiden, r-type, zanac....

you go from being a weak little ship with only a forward shot to having tons of missles and bullets fill the screen, you also have choices about which upgrades to get

[Anonymous No.1062497]

video games are fun when they are fun

[Anonymous No.1062516]

>>1062493
You should try some Batsugun. Dat firepower when you're fully leveled up.

[Anonymous No.1062587]

>>1062016
They are cool with me, but they are a bit too hard because of the later stages density of bullets coupled with the speed of them.

[Anonymous No.1062593]

>>1062016
Dragon Blaze and Space Bomber are awesome.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1062746]

I just picked up Deathsmiles for the 360 today. I love it! If you're one of those people who thinks Deathsmiles is too easy, Mega Black Label has a "level 999" difficulty which really ups the ante.

[Anonymous No.1062752]

>>1062746
It's easy only because you can play it on level 1.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1062798]

>>1062752
But you can only select "level 1" and "level 2" twice each.

At least three levels must be played on 3 or 999.

[Anonymous No.1063196]

anyone got any recommendations for easy(ier) 1cc shooters?

These CAVE games are breaking my spirit and crushing my will.

[Anonymous No.1063231]

>>1063196
Blue Wish Resurrection is a DDP ripoff with adjustable difficulty and optional slowdown.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1063257]

>>1063196
You could always just play on easy

[Anonymous No.1064154]

>>1063257
That's a bad idea, you should play only on the default difficulty.

[Anonymous No.1064375]

>>1064154
Oh come on, by that logic what's the point of having difficulty settings? If he wants to be an elementary school kid, it's up to him.

[Anonymous No.1064695]

>>1063196
>anyone got any recommendations for easy(ier) 1cc shooters?
Try Axelay (SNES).

[Anonymous No.1064703]

>>1063196
Deathsmiles

[Anonymous No.1067130]

I will never, ever be good at these games

[Anonymous No.1067276]

>>1067130

Not with that attitude you won't

[Anonymous No.1067330]

>>1067130
For some reason I think when new people come in and start actually playing Shoot 'em Ups they have a mentality like other games like platformers or such.

You have been stuck on level three for an entire week? That can be expected, a lot of levels do have difficulty jumps in which you can quickly find yourself at a road block.

I personally don't view it as something that I have to beat, and especially something I have to beat by a certain time. I view it as an intense action game that will usually put me into the fray quickly and that I can easily find plenty of enjoyment in playing it for ten, twenty, or sixty minutes.

[Anonymous No.1067463]

>>1032496

[Anonymous No.1067528]

>>1067463
Well yeah, it's a shmup. But not a really good one...

[Anonymous No.1067560]

>>1067130
I'm kinda in the same boat. At some point it just comes down to pure execution at a level thats just above some people. I see it kinda like rhythm games in that I can read and watch and play and practice but my hands and brain will never be able to pull that top-tier shit off.

I still love shooters though and play them alot, but you just learn to enjoy them without playing the insane stuff. And I'd like to think that the shmup fans don't look down on players as long as you love the genre and the gameplay....maybe not on 4chan though.

[Anonymous No.1067584]

For people who struggle alot in games I have a good advice, after you've lost your first credit and feel furstrated just continue ja play through the game with credits but without using bombs. This will make you learn bullet patterns more easily.

[Anonymous No.1067586]

>>1067463
I was gonna ask about this game. Is there a reason why the ships aren't balanced at all? Like, statwise there's one ship that's the best and one ship that's definitely the worst.

[Anonymous No.1067593]

>>1067586
>Is there a reason why the ships aren't balanced at all?
Yes, the game is shit

[Anonymous No.1067597]

>>1067560
and oh yeah, I lack discipline. If I was the dude that could sit down and practice for 4-5-6 hours straight I might be telling a different story. So there's that.

[Anonymous No.1067850]

>>1012348
The arm mechanics, weapons, music, bosses, set pieces and classic Square Greek mythos undertones are easily enough reasons to genuine appreciate this game.

[Anonymous No.1067892]

>>1067850
It's easily my favorite game in which I'm accosted loudly in German.

[Anonymous No.1069332]

>>1036490

How about Saidaioujou? Must be a lot going on in that game, because these bitches talk non-stop.

[Anonymous No.1069970]

Why can I 1CC Touhou 7 and 8 on Normal but I can hardly get through the 3rd level on this? I'm starting to think that I suck at any shmup that doesn't use a keyboard.

[Anonymous No.1069987]

>ctrl f cho ren sha
>1 result
>not even gameplay related

[Anonymous No.1070008]

>>1069970

Maybe it's because Touhou games aren't very hard, but Cave games are?

[Anonymous No.1070030]

>>1070008
Or, you know, keyboard is better than controller.

[Anonymous No.1070037]

>>1070030

Play DonPachi with a keyboard then.

[Anonymous No.1070052]

>>1070037
They made a keyboard for the Saturn? I don't emulate.

Also, what's your best score in PCB, since Touhou is so easy? :^)

[Anonymous No.1070059]

>everybody says TH is monkey mode
>everybody claims TH is a beginner's game
>always start dying at stage 4
>never able to 1CC the games
Should I just kill myself

[Anonymous No.1070085]

>>1070059
It took me a bit to work up to 1CCing 7 and 8. Start with either 6 or 7 and make sure to learn the timing window to deathbomb off by heart. You shouldn't have to use and bombs until at least the 3rd stage boss. Play at least once a day and just keep trying, you will get better. Watching Youtube videos may help you if you're having difficulty with a certain pattern.

[Anonymous No.1070090]

>>1070052

>I don't emulate.

Why?

>Also, what's your best score in PCB, since Touhou is so easy? :^)

How is that relevant? I'm saying I think a 1CC on normal is easier than beating DonPachi.

[Anonymous No.1070204]

>>1070192

[Anonymous No.1070216]

>>1069987
ChoRenSha is so good, I'm probably garbage at it but I have fun anyway. I've never bothered to try to copy any superplays, just straight runs of blasting shit and figuring it out on my own.

>>1070059
Hey man, it hurts, doesn't it? Everybody says DDP is an easy as fuck game but I can't chain anything past 1-3 anymore, my F3 key is actually wearing out from restarting so much. I teared up from dropping the 1-2 chain in each run I did yesterday, that shit was fucking soul crushing, I've put so much time into learning chaining routes and I just flop completely.

You'll be able to 1cc them soon enough though, don't worry. Getting your first 1cc is an amazing feeling and you should enjoy the journey to getting one.

[Anonymous No.1070228]

>>1070090
Upload your replay then, you can download pretty much every Touhou game off Doujinstyle.

[Anonymous No.1070235]

Their are three erorrs in this sentence.

[Anonymous No.1070237]

>caring about score in a Toho game

Don't all Toho games have extremely shallow scoring systems?

[Anonymous No.1070241]

>>1070237
The games are based entirely on score. Why do faggots try talking shit about games they've never played and know nothing about?

[Anonymous No.1070252]

>>1070241
Describe the scoring mechanics of your favorite Touhou game, please.

[Anonymous No.1070253]

>>1070228

I would prefer not to.

[Anonymous No.1070274]

>>1070241
Actually, they're based entirely on a bunch of soulless American Girl dolls throwing candy at eachother. Are you seriously going to tell me you think the games would be even one tenth as popular if they had spaceships and robots instead of frilly little bodypillows?

[Anonymous No.1070272]

You faggots are pathetic, someone comes in asking for advice on shmups and you start going full sperglord trying to tear down the games other people play without having even played them. Go back to shmups.system11.org, sperglords.

[Anonymous No.1070281]

>>1070272
>lol sperg aspies autism XD
I've already suggested several good shmups. If you ask me to recommend you some healthy food, then completely ignore my advice and continue to eat skittles and pizza every day, then yes, I think I'm entitled to a bit of "sperging."

[Anonymous No.1070282]

>>1070274
Ohhh yes, it's so terrible that ZUN can make a game to get more people interested in shmups while whatever sperglord game is your favorite remains obscure because no one gives a fuck.

Go back to the shmups.org forum if you want to try and act all superior over the games you play.

[Anonymous No.1070290]

>>1070274
>>1070282

Awww, did some big meanie say bad things about a video game you like? Poor widdle baby.

[Anonymous No.1070293]

>>1070290
Nope I wouldn't bother going to sperglord.shumps.org, that's your territory. Still waiting for a PCB replay, if you can even finish it pleb. And no, easy modo doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.1070294]

>>1070282
Now that you've admitted that Touhou's only value is being an easily-accessible gateway to the good stuff, why are you still defending it?

>M-my favorite game is more popular than yours

That's a terrible argument, and it's not even true to begin with. I'd have to drive hundreds of miles to find a store that sells Touhou games, but I can pick up Deathsmiles or Raiden at any entertainment store in the country.

[Anonymous No.1070304]

>>1070294
Post your replay of PCB or shut the fuck up noob.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1070305]

>>1070304
>LEMME SEE YOUR REPLAY, NOOB, AAARGH ESPORTS
>using the word "noob" period

Holy shit get the fuck out of /vr/.

[Anonymous No.1070309]

>>1070305
u mad faggot? tough, deal with it.

>princess plebefag
in b4 ban

[Anonymous No.1070313]

>>1070293
>Nope I wouldn't bother going to sperglord.shumps.org, that's your territory.

Implying anyone asked you to, or wants you there.

>Still waiting for a PCB replay, if you can even finish it pleb. And no, easy modo doesn't count.

I don't have any Touhou games, and I have no desire to play any. All I'm saying is, I've beaten a couple of them (Imperishable Night, Mountain of Fate) on normal, one credit, and I haven't beaten DonPachi, despite spending more time on that one. Believe it or not, I don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.1070343]

>>1070294
>WAAAAAH MY SUPER SEKRIT HOBBY

Get over it bitch.

[Anonymous No.1070356]

>>1070343

What the hell are you talking about? Your posts are all non sequiturs.

[Anonymous No.1070358]

>>1070356
Not sure what you mean by that I just came here, and you're trying to say Touhou is bad because it's popular? Is this you?

[Anonymous No.1070367]

>>1070358

I'm not the guy you were answering before, but I believe what he said was that the value of Touhou games was that they introduce people to the genre, but that the games themselves aren't very good.

[Anonymous No.1070365]

>>1070358
Not him but I'm sure Touhou and Call of Duty suffer from certain things other than "being too popular".

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1070375]

>>1070358
>you're trying to say Touhou is bad because it's popular?
I don't think anyone's saying that. You're the one who just said non-Touhou games are bad because they're obscure (which, as stated previously, isn't even true to begin with).

[Anonymous No.1070376]

>>1030561
Saidaioujou let's you do this, I hear that if you choose Expert mode you automatically start in the 2nd loop

[Anonymous No.1070378]

>>1070365
Like what? And you're really trying to compare the touhou project to CoD?

>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1070387]

Spergalicious

[Anonymous No.1070391]

>>1070376

Is that what happens? I was wondering why expert makes that game crazy hard.

[Anonymous No.1070397]

>>1070378

Touhou is like CoD. Ikaruga is like HALO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg

[Anonymous No.1070483]

>>1070397
are you implying that Halo is good?

[Anonymous No.1070497]

>>1070483

Or am I implying Ikaruga is bad?

[Anonymous No.1070506]

>>1070497
Fuck off back to the shmup.org forums faggot fucking autistic sperg-fedoracorelord.

[Anonymous No.1070508]

>>1070497
Well that makes the analogy more interesting but more difficult to interpret.

Are you saying Touhou has recoil, sprinting, and artifical achievements while Ikaruga is slow as fuck with the default weapon being stronger than all the pick ups?

[Anonymous No.1070530]

>>1070508

Actually, I've never played CoD or HALO, I just saw an excuse to post a xoxak video.

>>1070506

Why so butthurt? Did the mean boys from shmups forum piss on your cornflakes or something?

[Anonymous No.1070534]

>>1070530
Nope it's just obvious they're a bunch of autismlords like you. I would never bother posting at such a shitty place.

[Anonymous No.1070597]

>>1070534

And what was it in this thread that got your panties in a bunch again?

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1070626]

>>1070597
He's disappointed to learn that liking Touhou doesn't magically make him fit in on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.1070826]

>>1070090
>I think a 1CC on normal is easier than beating DonPachi.

>Normal
Who actually plays on normal aside from beginners?

[Anonymous No.1070829]

>>1070237
PCB and IN are more complex than many STGs, whereas EoSD and MoF are on the simple side.

[Anonymous No.1070834]

>>1070274
>Are you seriously going to tell me you think the games would be even one tenth as popular if they had spaceships and robots instead of frilly little bodypillows?

If the music were just as good, I'd still be playing the shit out of them.
In fact I'd like some recommendations for other shmups with as good music.

[Anonymous No.1070841]

>>1070834
>In fact I'd like some recommendations for other shmups with as good music.


that's pretty much almost all of them

i dont know why so many shmups got great music

[Anonymous No.1070851]

>>1070841
shmup graphics are mostly just background stuff and lazer beams, so it relies heavily on the sound department for aesthetics

[Anonymous No.1070913]

>>1070841
The only other shumps that had memorible music for me were guwange, samidare, dodonpachi, and ketsui, and dodonpachi's gets annoying very fast.
I want great memorable melodies like touhou

[Anonymous No.1070972]

>>1070913
how many shmups have you even played


seriously

[Anonymous No.1070983]

>>1070972
he probably just has a hyper melodic taste in music. nothing wrong with that

[Anonymous No.1071004]

>>1070972
a lot
i want more than heavy metal ripoff midi guitar riffing

[Anonymous No.1071009]

>>1071004
btw i didn't mean to say dodonpachi's music was good, just that it was memorable.
The other shmups i listed have music i'd consider good. dodondpachi's is just decent.

[Anonymous No.1071012]

>>1071009
there's gradius, there's r-type, there's the darius series, just look around.

[Anonymous No.1071069]

>>1070826
Quit moving the goalposts. Touhou on lunatic is still easier than most Cave games' second loop, and Deathsmiles on level 999.

[Anonymous No.1071476]

My progress...

still haven't reached that extra mario

[Anonymous No.1071501]

Don't know if Pocky & Rocky is considered a shmup around here or not but I'm postin' my achievement anyway. 1cc getto da ze!

[Anonymous No.1071503]

>>1071501
awesome, nicely done

[Anonymous No.1071509]

My progress is slow...

18m still haven't got that extra mario.

I need to get good at 4boss, plan routes of the latter part of st5 and learn the 5boss. Hard to think much about st6 at the moment.. things get so shaky at the later stages already. That said I still have deaths early on sometimes.

I wasted a bit of time on the st2 chains and I made a safe route through the green spawner guys you cancel on st3.. I wonder how ridiculous a goal it would be to no miss no bomb the entire first loop?

[Anonymous No.1071516]

hello, i am new to this thread, i just want to mention that I don't approve of it, and that I hate it, and that you people are awful. awful at video games, awful opinions, awful attitudes, awful people

[Anonymous No.1071642]

>>1071509
NMNB of the first loop is possible, you just need to be really good to do it. Survival-wise, I can make it to midway 1-4 before I need a bomb. I'm a garbage player, but I could probably stop bombing there if I practiced a little bit more. There's actually a trick with the 1-4 boss to make him freeze up or dance, but I'm not sure how to trigger it. 1-5 is also harder than 1-6 in my opinion, because of the middle section.

[Anonymous No.1071684]

>>1070834
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GCwnaEmVo

[Anonymous No.1072218]

where's best to get a copy of x360 saidaioujou?

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1072250]

>>1062490
Mars Matrix

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1072275]

>>1070834
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkV4fqkAIEY

Kind of surprised this thread still exists.

[Anonymous No.1072292]

Why no Cho Ren Sha 2 ?

[Anonymous No.1072304]

>>1072292
Not challenging enough.

[Yui Hirasawa !GITAHxgCoo No.1072331]

>>1072292
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/garstudios/shiden

[Anonymous No.1072337]

>>1072275
fuck man how come no one uploaded the rest of the gaiden soundtrack to youtube

FAKE is my favorite track ever

[Anonymous No.1072369]

Horis > Verts

prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.1072375]

>>1072369
>claims horis > verts
>posts R-Type

Yablewit

[Anonymous No.1072382]

>>1072375
but r-type is a hori

[Anonymous No.1072385]

>>1072382
Yeah it's also a piece of motherfucking shit.

[Anonymous No.1072393]

>>1072385

lol, what's the matter? Too hard for you?

[Anonymous No.1072394]

>>1072385
mad

gb2 2hu

[Anonymous No.1072396]

>>1072393
He's probably a Yagawafag who thinks suiciding to make the game less stupid is good design, or a 2hufag who thinks more bullets = better quality.

[TATEr !MIUTzJ6wPE No.1072454]

>>1072396
Or maybe he is neither since he has not expressed liking either one of those? Could we please not do this stuff every time someone dislikes what we like?

Let's just do the sensible thing and call him out on having terrible taste for not appreciating awesome pod manipulation shmups.

[Anonymous No.1072517]

>>1072454
Or maybe SHE is neither. Did you even consider that, you sexist pig?

[Anonymous No.1072547]

>auto hyper
>auto shield
>reduce fighter
>reduce enemy bullet
>invisible after image
>enemy life gauge
>automatic acquisition item
>marked bee
>invisible operator
>auto pilot
>full auto pilot
>ai partner
>maximum does not stop
>invisible fighter collision disp

What do most of these even mean?

[Anonymous No.1072631]

>>1072275
Thanks. That was great.

>>1071684
Decent to listen to while playing but not good on its own merits.

[Anonymous No.1072651]

>>1072517
>girls existing on the internet
>girls existing in a shmup thread

ya blew it

[Anonymous No.1072659]

>>1072547
I haven't played SDOJ yet, but...

Auto Hyper - No idea, I think you hyper when you get hit?
Auto Shield - Pretty sure this means auto bomb, not sure.
Reduce Fighter - I think this means you have a smaller hitbox. Could be wrong!
Reduce enemy bullet - Obvious
Automatic Acquisition Item - get all the items like it's 2hu
Marked Bee - I think it means you don't need to laser the bees to get it?
Invisible Operator - dunno
Auto Pilot - Ship moves by itself, manual fire/bomb/hyper
Full Autopilot - Same as autopilot, but it shoots and stuff.
AI Partner - An Artificial Girl for the lonely shmup player. ;_; Fucks up your streams and ram bullets just like a real person!
Maximum does not stop - You never lose MAX bonus I'm guessing.
Invisible fighter collision disp - Sounds to me like it means no hitbox display.

[Anonymous No.1072667]

>>1070834
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFUTyjFeBM

This song always gives me a good feeling. <3

[Anonymous No.1072671]

>>1072651
>No girls on le intarwebz XD

The ironic thing is, every time you post this you're basically saying women are better than men.

[Anonymous No.1072673]

>>1072671
How could they be better than men if they don't play STGs?

[Anonymous No.1072696]

>>1072671
you can act so superior and hate on maymays all you want, but the truth of the matter is that sex is irrelevant over the net especially on an anonymous imageboard, so acting offended because someone assumed you're male even though it may be wrong is pretty obnoxious and flamboyant, not too mention off-topic

go back to promoting feminism on tumblr instead of shitposting the STG thread, bro

[Anonymous No.1072698]

>>1072696
>your sex is irrelevant, so I'm going to pretend you're a man because women make me nervous

>>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.1072702]

>>1072369
I can't. My only problem is that once you go beyond the -ius games, there isn't much of a diverse selection on arcades to choose from, sadly.

[Anonymous No.1072992]

>>1072659
So I started a game to hope to grind up to 1000 coins to buy Player 2 AI, but I always rage quit when I up my first credit instead of letting it game over, and I end up earning no coins.

I know nobody thinks much of this ingame shop, because pros and score whores demand them to be off, but turning on a 2P AI sounds like a really fucking cool feature that needs to be staple in all multiplayer shmups. I'm a lonely person who doesn't like to go online for these kinda games.

[Anonymous No.1072997]

>>1072651
>tfw your girlfriend is better than you at STG
>tfw she keeps lurking /jp/ to find photos of white redheads posing with their asian boyfriend

[Anonymous No.1073092]

>>1072659
>Marked Bee - I think it means you don't need to laser the bees to get it?
>Invisible Operator - dunno

Marked Bee marks the bees so they're easy to see, Invisible Operator just removes the image of the operator from the screen.

[Anonymous No.1073096]

>>1072992

You can earn coins by doing challenges. That way you get some practice, too.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1073124]

What do you guys think of Jamestown?

I think it's pretty sweet, for a western game.

[Anonymous No.1073205]

>>1073096
I don't know what "challenges" are, all this shit is in jap. I just got up to 240 coins. I suck so I'm a Novice mode player in Cave games. I can 1CC Mushihime and Espgaluda II on Novice without double, but SDOJ is a complete trigger word. I even rigged the screen with slowdown and I still can't dodge this shit.

[Anonymous No.1073208]

>>1073124
I like Jamestown but the abysmally pathetic firepower and slow move speed really doesn't help the fact it's in widescreen. The scoring is pretty awesome for non-pros though.

[Anonymous No.1073225]

>>1073205

On the main menu, under Arcade HD, there is something called challenge.

From shumps forum:

1-5: beat the midbosses in each stage. you get 1 life, no bombs and lv6 hyper.
6-10: beat the stages (not bosses) without breaking your combo chain.
11-15: collect all the bees in the stages.
16-20: Perfect combos for stages 1-5
21-25: beat the bosses of each stage. first 3 bosses you get 1 life, lv1 hyper and bombs. on the other 2 you get 2 lives and lv2 hyper. you can use autobomb.
26-30: simply clear the stages. you start with 3 lives.
31-34: i think you have to use the midbosses on stages 1, 2, 4 and 5 to recharge your hyper gauge. you use the first part of the stage to build up the gauge.
35: "Aim for a MAX destruction combo meter from the large enemy aircrafts" (?)
36: hyper gauge charge.. charge it before the s1 midboss appears?
37: charge the hyper gauge during the stage 1 boss.. by destroying the parts on it's sides?
38: 4th midboss 1up get. self-explanatory.
39: beat the 4 midbosses on stage 5.. in the video they do recharge the hyper on the 2nd and 4th midboss.
40: hyper stock.. in the video i think they collected a bee during the s5 midboss while hyper was activated to get lv1 hyper.
41-45: beat the midbosses on expert mode. like 1-5 you get 1 life, no bombs and lv6 hyper.
46-50: beat the bosses on expert mode. on first 2 bosses you get 1 life, 3 and 4 you get 2 lives, and the last one gives you 3 lives. lv1 hyper and autobomb can be used.

[Anonymous No.1073228]

>>1073205

Another way to get easy coins is to unlock full auto pilot and let the game play itself.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1073251]

>>1072992
AI player 2 is a cool idea. I recently got Deathsmiles, and it's old enough that I can never find anyone online to play with. I don't think it has local 2-player, either.

[Anonymous No.1073259]

>>1073251
NOT FUCKING RETRO FUCK OFF
>>>/v/
GET OUT NOW

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1073261]

>>1073259
Saidaioujou isn't retro either, do you see anyone else complaining?

[Anonymous No.1073264]

>>1073261
>>1073251
>>1073228
>>1073225
>>1073208
>>1073205
>>1073124
>>1073096
>>1073092

MODS THIS BELONGS IN /v/ DELETE THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY

EQUALITY FOR /vr/ THIS BOARD IS A FUCKING JOKE

[Anonymous No.1073270]

>>1073259
>>1073264

Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.1073274]

>>1073270
Put your trip back on faggot.

And the mods either need to enforce the rules correctly or fix them. Singling out the Dreamcast is just horse shit.

[Anonymous No.1073275]

>>1073274
If we're expected to put up with having every thread of ours ruined by "LE NOT RETRO" shitposting then expect us to point out every instance of not retro posting on this board until it is fixed.

The /vr/ mods are a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.1073293]

>>1073274
>Put your trip back on faggot.

I'm not Princess Sevenleaf, if that's what you mean. I'm the guy who posted some Saidaioujou advice. If you want to allow Dreamcast discussion, then I'm all for that, but demanding a thread be deleted because someone dared to talk about an installment of the series that isn't retro according to this board's rules is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.1073298]

>>1073293
No, it's par for the course on /vr/. When Foolz comes back up look at the SEGA General threads from today. They were deleted at least twice then the one which is currently up had half it's posts deleted.

Like I said, either enforce the rules correctly or fix them. Scapegoating one specific company is not an answer.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1073304]

>>1073274
>Singling out the Dreamcast is just horse shit

Oh, is that what this is about?

I'll stop talking about Deathsmiles if it's that big of a deal, but to be honest I don't think it is.

[Anonymous No.1073309]

>>1073298

Well, that kinda sucks. Sometimes I wish I could talk about modern games done in a retro style on /vr/, because /v/ is a shithole.

[Anonymous No.1073325]

>>1073275
Whine and cry, whine and cry. It's unfair that the DC threads gets shitposted on so let's go shit post anywhere we can?

>obvious DC thread shit poster

[Anonymous No.1073334]

>>1073325
That's exactly what I'm doing yes.
You whine and cry some more about it, fuckface.

[Anonymous No.1073338]

What do you faggots think of Batsugun?

[Anonymous No.1073549]

>>1073338

One of the earliest danmaku shmups and still one of the best. Very impressive. I don't think it's quite the best game Toaplan's made though.

[Anonymous No.1073553]

>>1073338
Too CAVE-ish. Didn't care for it.

[Anonymous No.1073736]

I'm interested in "cool teenagers fighting big stuff" themed shooting games with street culture vibe, something like ESP Ra. De., Sin and Punishment, and probably Milestone's Radirgy. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.1073742]

>>1073736

Armed Police Batrider?

[Anonymous No.1073764]

>>1073742
Yes, it looks fun.

[Anonymous No.1073839]

>>1072992
It sounds like a pretty funny novelty to me, I'd probably play with it on a few off credits in my downtime. I want to get another stick before I bother playing SDOJ, even though I know I could do well enough with the 360 pad, it would probably end up causing frustration anyway. By the way, don't restart constantly. I always restart in the original DDP when I drop a chain since it pretty much means game over if you're wanting to score high, it makes me feel sick anytime I boot up the game since I know that 1-4 is probably going to be the runkiller.

Just take your time and enjoy the game, even if you die early on.

>>1073092
That makes sense, thank you. I wasn't sure on some of them because I've yet to play the game, even though I really really want to play it right about now.

[Anonymous No.1073847]

>>1073338
EZPZ but the Jupiter milk and stage 5 are fun.

[Anonymous No.1074810]

>>1072331

Looks like shit

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1075863]

>>1072331
You're my favorite shmup fan, Yui.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1075882]

>>1072331
The ship looks kinda cool, but I don't really see why anyone would pay for a ChoRenSha clone when the real CRS is free.

[Anonymous No.1075893]

So /vr/, I have a proposition for you all. Let's try to get the Izuna Saber/BlastWind arcade PCB rom dumped onto the internet. If you haven't played it, it's one of 2 of Technosoft's vertical shmups for the Saturn, but there existed at one point a version of it for arcades that seems to be lost. You can tell because images of it in TATE mode float around on the net, and in the Saturn version the options are called DIP switches. WE CAN DO IT /vr/... WE CAN FIND THAT GAEM! WE JUST GOTTA BELIEEEEEEVE

[Anonymous No.1075895]

>>1075893
I'd rather have a rom dump of Dodonpachi Daifukkats.

[Anonymous No.1075901]

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1075903]

Not cool, janitor.

[Anonymous No.1075902]

>>1075901
Esprade was always 2deep4me.

[Anonymous No.1075930]

>>1012218

got a used eizo flexscan s2100 for my cabinet. its fucking awesome, 21.3'', portrait mode and great viewing angles

[Anonymous No.1075935]

>>1012741
tfw cave considers progear a failure

[Anonymous No.1075945]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbts2qTrbAg

[Anonymous No.1075947]

>>1075945
No I don't want to Play Mars Matrix

[Anonymous No.1075950]

>>1075930
thanks, but this is way over my budget.
>>1075895
It's a matter of years since Cave is still earns money from this game. Personally, I'd like to see their butthurt.

[Anonymous No.1075954]

>>1075950
>thanks, but this is way over my budget.

thats why i got it used :)

[Anonymous No.1075960]

>>1075950
>It's a matter of years since Cave is still earns money from this game

Yeah but most of the other CV1000 games are dumped. Deathsmiles is newer than Daifukkatsu.

[Anonymous No.1075970]

>>1075960
>Deathsmiles is newer than Daifukkatsu.
I'm pretty sure its other way around
anyway
What good is a rom dumps if there is no software to play it
I'm sticking with 360 ports for the time being.

[Anonymous No.1076009]

>>1075970
Shit, you're right. For some reason I thought DKF came out in like 2004.

[Anonymous No.1076025]

>>1075947
Yes you do.

[Anonymous No.1076026]

>>1012741
which shot do you like using in progear?

[Anonymous No.1076035]

>>1076009
Don't worry, I thought for a long time that DOJ is older than Ketsui

[Anonymous No.1076212]

Guys everyone play dodonpachi with me this is the most fun ever. I'm going for a 1-ALL.

[Anonymous No.1076214]

>>1076212
Play it yourself fagit.

Casuals.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1076224]

>>1076212
We're with you in spirit. Gambatte kudasai! Donpachi Gundan ichi!

[Anonymous No.1076267]

>>1075945
More of that reviewer please now

[Anonymous No.1076956]

>>1076267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vD-wHluug

[Anonymous No.1076967]

I'm so bad at shmups. So, so bad.

I don't think I've ever beaten one.

[Anonymous No.1076968]

>>1076967
try gun smoke, that's a great beginner shmup

[Anonymous No.1076970]

>>1076968
Will do. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.1076981]

>>1076967
Get good fuckhead

[Anonymous No.1076983]

>>1076981
>get good
This takes time. I'm in the process.

[Anonymous No.1077014]

>>1076956
This is possibly one of the greatest videos on Youtube.

>I play my games like my movies, when they stop I keep hitting play.

[Anonymous No.1077041]

>>1076981
You could try giving advice instead of being a raging cock face.

>>1076968
See, nice with advice.

[Anonymous No.1077176]

>>1076967
Are you interested in verts or horis?

If the former, start on Image Fight (make sure to not go to any penalty zones), then work your way up to Toaplan stuff, then you can begin on the good shit, like Cave and Raizing and Psikyo shmups.

If the latter, go with Thunder Force III or IV, then a Darius (like Gaiden), then finally you can start looping through the Gradiuses, Rtypes, and maybe Border Down.

[Anonymous No.1078393]

this game wont be nice to me even a tiny bit

[Anonymous No.1078475]

woah
woah
I just did st6 blind

I don't know what the fuck happened. I even went through one of those green walls of bullets the bees throw at you. It was incredible.

[Anonymous No.1078529]

This thread deserves eternal continues.
10/10

[Anonymous No.1078982]

>>1076981
You forgot your :V.

Speaking of getting good, how feasible is it to get decent enough on the 360 pad? I can't really afford a new stick at the moment, so I'm stuck with this and a $5 keyboard from 1998. On another note, how do I get better while constantly restarting? I was told it was the best way to play, but I'm just getting angry and burnt out playing the first few stages over and over after dropping my 1-3 or 1-4 chain.

[Anonymous No.1079260]

>>1078982
>how do I get better while constantly restarting? I was told it was the best way to play
Don't do this, you'll just get furstrated and eventually stop playing. Just continue playing even if you fuck up, usually I even continue if i lose a credit, but I won't use bombs after continuing so I'll get better with bullet patterns.

[Anonymous No.1079286]

>>1078529

Credit feeding scum

[Anonymous No.1079943]

What are some other STG's that have grazing as a mechanic besides Batrider, Raiden Fighters, Psyvariar and Radiant Silvergun?

[Anonymous No.1079950]

>>1078982
>Speaking of getting good, how feasible is it to get decent enough on the 360 pad? I can't really afford a new stick at the moment, so I'm stuck with this and a $5 keyboard from 1998.

Get a pad tailored for 2D, such as SNES or Saturn. Those are real good.

>I was told it was the best way to play, but I'm just getting angry and burnt out playing the first few stages over and over after dropping my 1-3 or 1-4 chain.

Memo harder. Watch replays. Never get discouraged and quit playing for long periods of time (i.e. weeks on end). If you still fuck up on the first few stages of a shmup, it might be time to try something else and then return back to that shmup. Some shmups just don't click with certain people.

[Anonymous No.1080058]

>>1075945
My friend George, he bought me this mop.

[Anonymous No.1080161]

>>1079943
Castle Shikigami 2, Ibara Kuro, Exceed 3rd and I think Battle Bakraid.

[Anonymous No.1080184]

>>1079260
I'm trying to stop restarting, just got done playing for an hour and actually finished practicing the stage no matter how badly the chain was butchered. I tried to chain even after dropping it, but it's pretty hard to do it, I kinda lose motivation after dropping it.

>>1079950
Would you recommend the PlaySega Saturn pad? I've always loved the Saturn pad, but I'm pretty skeptical about buying a USB one. I used to use a PS3 controller, but the d-pad has gotten really unresponsive.

>Memo harder. Watch replays. Never get discouraged and quit playing for long periods of time (i.e. weeks on end). If you still fuck up on the first few stages of a shmup, it might be time to try something else and then return back to that shmup. Some shmups just don't click with certain people.

I watch replays a lot, but I suddenly forget how to do it after drilling it over and over again. Most of my restarts are because of a death or bomb that I felt wasn't necessary, am possibly getting burnt out

[Anonymous No.1080232]

>>1080184
>Would you recommend the PlaySega Saturn pad?
Dunno much about them. I'd go with a converter if you don't mind .001% lag.

>I watch replays a lot, but I suddenly forget how to do it after drilling it over and over again.

What are you playing?

[Anonymous No.1080649]

>>1080232
I've been seriously considering gettan an adapter. I s the lag even remotely notable?

[Anonymous No.1080781]

>>1080649
That depends from the adapter.

[Anonymous No.1081121]

>>1079943
TOUHOU

[Anonymous No.1081190]

>>1081121
sans MoF

[Anonymous No.1081742]

>>1072218

any body know what site's got it cheapest to order? i want a shmup on my 360 that isnt die fuckastu

[Anonymous No.1081745]

>>1081742
Buy Pink Sweets/Muchi Muchi Pork

[Anonymous No.1081896]

>>1080232
I've been considering grabbing a cheap PS2 converter. I really liked the d-pad on my PS3 controller up until it wore out. Really want a new stick, but if I gotta deal with a pad, I'd probably go with the Saturn pad or the dualshock.

I'm playing DoDonPachi, settled on the 360 pad for now since my keyboard will just suddenly stop reading inputs. Tapping is pretty hard using an analog stick, kinda sucks. I was playing Raiden Fighters Jet for a week or so, but I decided to play DDP instead since it's largely considered to be the STG to learn how to play STGs. RFJ was kicking my ass pretty hard too, but I didn't really watch any replays. I just played, figured out how to trigger the RF1 and 2 medals and kinda stopped playing it. RFJ feels really good to play, but I don't think I'm good enough to play it without a stick.

[Anonymous No.1081905]

>>1081742
I pre-ordered mine back in May from an eBay store called gameonasia for $45 which I thought was a good price. Check there.

[Anonymous No.1082064]

Somebody make a new STG general

[Anonymous No.1082070]

>>1081896
Personally, I hate the Dualshock d-pads, but that's just me. The dissected four buttons style just doesn't agree with me or my thumb as it starts to feel like crap after a bit. And even for 3D with the analog sticks, the controller is lame because of where each stick is located. Sony really doesn't know how to design good hardware.

DDP is easy, at least maybe until stage 4 and beyond. I don't see why you should be having any problems. Also never use analog sticks for shmups, it's going to be much slower than digital input.

[Anonymous No.1082081]

what the fuck happened to my score? I don't even know how this happened but wow! I should probably just quit now, doesn't look like I'm beating that.

>>1082070
> DDP is easy
post your scores

[Anonymous No.1082147]

>>1082070
They tear my thumbs to shreds, but I get used to it after a week or so of playing with them. I should just order some parts for the stick, but I'm not entirely sure how much that would cost me. And sadly, the 360 pad is all I've got for now. The d-pad is so bad on that first model 360 pad, so so bad. Turns out the keyboard is pretty good though, despite that it's from 1998. Tough as hell playing KB though, not sure how people do it.

DDP is pretty easy if you play C-S and do straight survival, but pulling off ballsy scoring techniques is pretty nerve wrecking and really hard to do. Then again, some guy on IRC who consistently makes it to 2-5 calls himself a shitty player constantly, so maybe it is really easy. In any case, chaining is what makes it hard for me, dropping the chains and resetting every time I play.

[Anonymous No.1082259]

New thread up, guys >>1082258