Arcade discussion

[Anonymous No.10102859]

Do you miss arcades? Whats your favorite arcade game. Do you own a cab, or want to own one?

I like sf3 new gen, i think its pretty underrated.

[Anonymous No.10102875]

>do you miss arcades

First day? There’s arcade coping on here constantly, I’m one of them. Yeah I miss it, more importantly I miss the style of gameplay. Indie devs don’t make arcade like games at all, it’s all rogueliteslop. That style of gameplay has all but disappeared. Modern arcade games are just iOS ports on a 50” screen.

[Anonymous No.10102889]

>>10102875
>First day?
Second day

[Anonymous No.10102897]

>>10102889
Welcome, there is a lot of love for arcades here, many anons collect boards for example, and we discuss the merits (or autism) of MAME and everyone sneeds over the arcade perfect status of ports. Personally I have been playing a lot of belt scrolling beat ‘em ups, in particular the CPS ones while I listen to podcasts.

[Anonymous No.10102942]

>>10102897
I played the dnd ones a few months back, they were pretty fun

Been a long time since i played final fight. Are there others im forgetting?

[Anonymous No.10102958]

My parents live very very close to galloping ghost. My brother and I knock a few back and spend the afternoon there whenever we're both in town.

[Anonymous No.10103007]

>>10102958
Lucky

[Anonymous No.10103026]

This won't go well.

[Anonymous No.10103048]

>>10102875
One of the big reasons I can't get into modern fighting games is that they just so SLOW getting from one match to the other. The character win animations, the versus screen, the load times, it all feels like it takes forever compared to the older arcade games.

[Anonymous No.10103053]

>>10103048
GET READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE !!!

[Anonymous No.10103084]

>>10103048
For me the main thing is theyre not as visually appealing and the other thing is a lot of them are designed worse for the sake of accessibility.

[Anonymous No.10103086]

i miss that era for sure. at one point in time my local pizza place had:
>umk3
>cruisin' usa
>raiden 2
>point blank
>medieval madness pinball
which was an absolutely god tier lineup for me.

[Anonymous No.10103119]

>>10103048
Yeah I hate this. Modern FGs seem to compensate by trying to make the matches longer but I don't really like that either. I was watching SF 6 matches yesterday and every character has so much health. While we're bitching, combos last wayyy too long now as well. And I'm a boomer that misses sprite art.

[Anonymous No.10103137]

There's a unique, visceral appeal to arcade cabinets that I really enjoy. It was always exciting finding machines in the wild too - I did the majority of my arcade gaming at the front of our Wal-Mart, which had 6 or 7 machines and rotated in new ones frequently. There's a decent retro arcade close to my house that I've been to a few times. 10 bucks gets you in and the machines are well kept. It's in a rapidly decaying mall so I hope it survives. People make fun of barcades, but we also have a really good barcade in my city that does tournaments and trivia nights and shit.

[Anonymous No.10103250]

>>10103137
I'm fine with barcades, though as somebody who doesn't drink, I don't really find the "bar with 8 cabs off to the side" style to be that interesting. There's a small chain in my area that has a lot of games at the two locations I've been to, with the bar aspect being more of the addition rather than the main attraction. The bar aspect does bring in people who I wouldn't normally associate with wanting to go to an old-style arcade, or maybe that has as much to do with old games becoming trendy.

[Anonymous No.10103293]

I heard street fighter alpha 2 was better than alpha 3. Is this true?

[Anonymous No.10103317]

>>10103293
Are we talking about in a competitive sense, or in a casual gaming sense? 3 has more of that modern hype-y fighting game feel, with a more talkative announcer and flashier visuals, akin to the Marvel Vs series.

[Anonymous No.10103567]

>>10103293
They both have their own appeal. You could argue either way. I wouldnt conclude either being superior but i prefer alpha 2 for its presentation, better backgrounds ost and css

[Anonymous No.10103575]

>>10103250
If the 8 games are my game idgaf

Id be satisfied to plop my ass on a capcom or (old) arcsys fighter

Aside from that i just like... idk midway shit like ranpart. but also digdug and tron by whoever the fuck made em namco and idk

[Anonymous No.10103597]

>>10102958
My cousin and I just went there a few months ago. We also went there together with my sister last summer. It’s only a half hour drive for us, so we’re very fortunate that it’s so close.
We played Ninja Baseball Batman together and had fun, even if we weren’t so good at it.
I also got addicted to Mr. Driller G, and that got me hooked to that series.
Played some other various games too. I’d like to go back again eventually

[Anonymous No.10103608]

>>10103293
I like the aesthetics of A2 better. I think it has better backgrounds, music and character art (versus screen). The -ism system sounds cool but you pretty much just see V. Something about the gameplay of A3 is off to me as well. It doesn't feel as "Street Fighter" as A2.

>>10103250
Yeah the barcade I'm referencing actually puts the games first - they have two dozen at least, plus a bunch of pinball machines and a few retro consoles hooked up with Everdrives and Trinitrons. It's legitimately a cool place, especially since I've been to a few barcades that obviously don't give a shit (broken sticks, warped monitors etc). Though the bar area is so tiny and it takes so long to get a drink, I have no idea how they make enough to keep it operating (games are free).

[Anonymous No.10103656]

>>10102859
No I don't miss feeding arcade set to max difficulty by greedy operators. What I do miss is the days spent meeting, playing and chatting with new people in or by the arcade.

[Anonymous No.10103698]

An "arcade" just opened in my (very small) home town and it has NO ACTUAL VIDEO GAMES.
Just like twenty different ticket redemption games that are all pure chance based.

[Anonymous No.10103792]

>>10103137
I opened one in my town about a year ago. Its been fun. Its split half and half bar to arcade/pinball games. Building isnt huge, but ive got about 28 arcades and 9 pins on the floor. The town i’m in is known for drinking so the full size/service bar is necessary and is utilized. I work on all arcades and its truly a labor of love. $5 entry, free play arcades, quarter play pinball.

[Anonymous No.10104006]

>>10103792
5 dollar entry is cheap. Your customers probably have no idea how good they have it.

[Anonymous No.10104107]

>>10103293
Alpha 3 has more content obviously (especially the ports like Double Upper with extra stuff) but a lot of people find 2 more appealing. It really comes down to taste. A lot of the things about 3 that people find off-putting like full meter at game start can be changed in the dip switches, so take complaints about those aspects of the game with a grain of salt.
Both are good games, I'd be happy to throw down in either one at a moment's notice.
Sakura's a QT.

[Anonymous No.10104110]

>>10103792
Sounds based.
Did you put in the tacky carpet or was that too over the line?

[Anonymous No.10104146]

>>10104107
Beautiful gif

[Anonymous No.10104151]

After playing thousands of hours of arcade games and getting 1cc's in several games this is my overall opinion of arcade gaming as a genre:

it's overrated

[Anonymous No.10104172]

>>10103048
fwiw SF6 did a pretty good job with this, i get a match in ranked in like ten seconds flat every time.

[Anonymous No.10104175]

>>10103608
>a few retro consoles hooked up with Everdrives and Trinitrons
i've been to a few places that have consoles hooked up like this but i've NEVER seen anyone playing them. have you? i think it's a neat idea though

[Anonymous No.10104214]

>>10102859
Miss it? I never left. Bring the arcade experience home with you anon.

[Anonymous No.10104224]

>>10104151
I love arcade games, but I definitely think that most people will enjoy them more in short bursts or as something casually enjoyed with friends.

[Anonymous No.10104237]

>>10104214
My hot take #2: the cabinet is the least important part of arcade gaming.

[Anonymous No.10104268]

>>10103137
>People make fun of barcades, but we also have a really good barcade in my city that does tournaments and trivia nights and shit.

My problem is that barcades are buying up all the leftover surviving arcade cabinets from the 80s and 90s. They supply was already limited before, but now it's gotten very bad. They bought up so much of the used inventory and driven up the prices like crazy. I can't even find some stuff anymore without paying crazy prices (if I can find it at all). 10 to 12 years ago it wasn't a problem finding them.

Another issue I have with them is that barcade owners almost always exclusively buy upright arcade cabinets. They don't pay any attention to racing sit down games, or other sit down games. This leaves a bunch of perfectly usable sit down games left to rot because barcades don't want them for whatever reason. I asked one barcade owner why, and he said he only wanted upright arcade cabinets where multiple people could play. He wasn't a fan of single player games, and only had a couple because those particular ones were very popular (for example Pac Man). This is very flawed way of thinking imo.

Another issue is that arcade collectors and preservationists can usually only fit upright cabinets in their homes. So it's become a competition in some areas to find specific cabinets before a local barcade buys it and shoves it in their warehouse.

Barcades came 10 years too late. They started showing up in the 2010s. But the arcade industry needed them in 2001. If barcades showed up back then, perhaps the arcade industry wouldn't have collapsed. Tens of THOUSANDS of arcade machines were destroyed, scrapped, or tossed in the dumpster because people thought they were worthless because of the arcade collapse. The only reason we have any surviving classic arcade machines was because of collectors who saved them, put them in their home, or put them in a warehouse for storage. But 80% of machines are gone now. They are considered antiques.

[Anonymous No.10104282]

>>10102859
>Do you miss arcades?
No. In retrospect they were probably mainly haunts for paedophiles.

[Anonymous No.10104285]

>>10104268
What you do is find a real nice racing game that supports linked cabinet play and then build it all into one dual screen upright cabinet.
Sell the cabinets to barcades.
Now people are getting interested in racing games again, and more of the full size machines will get put in.
But you got to put some videos on youtube and have tournaments and such. Make some hype.

[Anonymous No.10104349]

>>10103698
Well, that's mostly what they became now. Arcades are a business and need to make money. The quarter-munching model of the past is deprecated for a couple of reasons. On the other hand, gambling is as high as always, so luck-based machines are attractive for many regular people.

If a traditional arcade were to open today, they would need to cut some costs and change their model a bit. Like considering using custom emulated builds and charging an admission fee instead of quarters or tokens.

[Anonymous No.10104363]

>>10103792
Very interesting post. Is the arcade half profitting or is it just breaking even and relying on the bar half?

[Anonymous No.10104383]

>>10104349
Traditional arcades became e-sports arenas.

[Anonymous No.10104396]

>>10104285
>What you do is find a real nice racing game that supports linked cabinet play
What cabinet do you mean? Do you mean those super deluxe racing cabinets (pic related)? Those are extremely rare these days. It's hard to find just one cab that's working...let alone of bunch of them to link together. These super deluxe cabinets were sold in limited numbers back in the day. Today they are extremely rare. Most have been retired, sold off, or scrapped.

[Anonymous No.10104397]

>>10104383
The competition, you mean? Perhaps. About the people, though, I'd much rather interact with the dudes I found on arcades.

[Anonymous No.10104517]

Supposedly chuck e cheese would scrap all there machines when they were done with them so competition wouldnt get em. And when the arcade industry collapsed... well, bye bye pac man!!

So its believed that roughly 95 percent of the machines back then are gone now. But then you have to factor in borken machines, mame conversions, the original low print numbers and well

Arcades were never really popular outside of south eastasia t begin with, with the exception of certain popular ahem *x men* cough, nba, ACHOO games, arcades never really took off in europe. Not gonna find a lot of what we call classics now like galazian or donkey kong type of games becauae well people prefered the console versions of them

So when you see a game on ebay and someone wants 12k nzd for their cabinet machine beggars cant be their choosers.

Good luck out there. Personally id rather emulate them on my bed than go out to an arcade anyway

[Anonymous No.10104524]

When did Chuck-E-Cheese start having actual video games? Back in the early 90's it was just the usual ball tossing and cannon shooting shit for winning tickets.

[Anonymous No.10104539]

Doomer mfs talkin bout how arcades are dead but i find out not only do they still male them but theyre also relatively affordable now (500 to 900 as opposed to the 10 to 15 thousand an old one used to cost back in the day)

[Anonymous No.10104541]

>>10104539
They're all over the place but when people say arcades are "dead" they mean joystick and button games.

[Anonymous No.10104542]

>>10104397
Not just the competition.
People go to these places to play through single player games.
Considering the price of a ps5...

[Anonymous No.10104546]

>>10104517
Ornery old boomer operators who would rather let their games rot in a barn than sell them contributed to problem as well.

[Anonymous No.10104551]

>>10104396
Read the post again more critically.

I mean to take one of the games that was originally in those deluxe cabinets, and put only the PCBs inside a new, smaller cabinet with two monitors inside (or use a video splitter to a single 16:9 monitor), and then add two sets of controls, possibly using a miniature steering wheel set-up.

So you'd be taking those gigantic set-ups and putting them into a single stand-up cabinet.

[Anonymous No.10104552]

>>10104541
True. Joysticks and buttons break really easily. Conversely all the arcade games you can play on ps2 wii and switch still work because the controllers are designed to hold up, not eat tokens. Probably why the arcades failed. So much for arcade superiority.

[Anonymous No.10104556]

>>10104551
Literally never heard of this game. If i had it id convert it to maybe mario 64 or something a little more desirable. Maybe doom.

[Anonymous No.10104558]

>>10104551
Why would anyone do that? The whole point is Barcades and collectors want original and official arcade cabinets with original PCBs inside. They don't want homemade modified cabinets.

>Read the post again more critically.
Wow. Sass much? I suggest you think about your answer more carefully next time.

[Anonymous No.10104562]

>>10104556
Heresy.

[Anonymous No.10104563]

>>10104562
Find me literally anyone that cares about mario vs castlevania. Cry about it

[Anonymous No.10104571]

>>10104558
>The whole point is Barcades and collectors want original and official arcade cabinets with original PCBs inside
Hmmm.
No. Especially on the barcades part. They put LCD monitors in their cabinets and replace the controls with whatever cheap chinese crap they can find laying around or on ebay. They not care about historical accuracy, they just want something a bunch of drunks can laugh and credit feed.

Collectors in this case benefit down the road by barcade owners seeing there's potential in racing games after these uprights do well so they put in one or two of the full size machines.

As well collectors might actually get to, you know, PLAY these games against someone in person other than the computer, even if they have to make a little compromise on the way. Wouldn't that be swell?

[Anonymous No.10104572]

>>10104558
Barcades have no standards other than

>i dont want a repair man to fix it
>preferably a popular game
>preferably clean and flashy

They usually rock cabs with 16 by 9 lcds, dogshit replacement sticks from alibaba or wish or something, chinkshit boards, etc, often a token crap mame build in the lineup too. Barcades typically blow ass. Like 9 outta 10 times

[Anonymous No.10104579]

I finally got the 1cc with no rounds lost on Super Street Fighter II X on level 8 with N. Ryu.
Also broke a million points.
BUT at turbo 1. So we ain't done just yet.
I think I will try to hit turbo 2 now just to say I did it at default speed.

Check out the damage the standing roundhouse does to Akuma near the end of the final round.

[Anonymous No.10104615]

>>10104571
>Hmmm.
>No.
>>10104572
Maybe some of the barcades you've been to work like that, but I have literally been to arcade auctions and spoken with multiple barcade owners. These people I've spoken to all want original upright cabinets with original monitors and PCBs.
I tried to convince them to buy several driving games up for auction, but almost all of them weren't interested.

[Anonymous No.10104627]

>>10104006
The locals dont at all. Its a state capital city in a mostly rural state, that being said we get some decent out of town traffic and those people really appriciate our spot.

[Anonymous No.10104631]

>>10104579
Nice job anon

[Anonymous No.10104637]

>>10104349
Killer Queen, a modern arcade title centered around more traditional multiplayer gameplay, seems to draw in barcade people who don't strike me as typical gamers, though I'm not sure how it would fare as a pay to play deal.

[Anonymous No.10104638]

>>10104110
Not at all. Sealed concrete floors. We have it set up kinda like a non-pretentious gallery. Simple stark colors. No black lights. In house made framed black and wgite photos on the walls of landmarks of the city but with (hopefully) tasteful spritework of classic games photoshopped in. Example being a b&w 1950’s photo of the old highschool but its the backdrop for a river city ransom fight scene.

[Anonymous No.10104641]

>>10104615
They say that.
What they do is another matter.

[Anonymous No.10104642]

>>10103792
jeremy, is that you?

[Anonymous No.10104643]

>>10104363
In our specific town we knew from the jump we were going to rely on alcohol sales. Like i mentioned above we charge for pinball, but to us its only to keep people from beating up the pinball tables. We make money on them, but its pretty nominal in the overarching money flow.

[Anonymous No.10104645]

>>10102859
thanks for reminding me, there is an arcade cabinet that looks just like this one and I have been trying to buy it off the owner. It's neglected with graffiti and I could easily replace the beat up euro parts.

[Anonymous No.10104646]

>>10104638
Can you post photos? I'm curious to see.

[Anonymous No.10104650]

>>10104642
No. Thats Waybacks.

[Anonymous No.10104654]

>>10104646
Im hesitant to. I hate to be a pussy pie, but theres a stigma with our lovely board here. I lean more toward not giving a shit about being exposed, but this is a smaller town and im not rich.

[Anonymous No.10104657]

>>10104643
>Like i mentioned above we charge for pinball, but to us its only to keep people from beating up the pinball tables. We make money on them, but its pretty nominal in the overarching money flow.
You have to charge separately for pinball. Anything that requires physical movement and physical response from the machine needs periodic maintenance. It costs money to keep pinball running.

[Anonymous No.10104658]

What I want to do is open a gas station here in my rural community.
Instead of the typical pool hall back room I want to have a game room.
Tables for playing CCGs or DnD.
A few sit-down cabinets.
No redemption games.
No video slots or poker.
The games are cheap to play.
Gas station side makes money, the back room is purely my vanity project.

[Anonymous No.10104660]

>>10104657
Thats right. Pinball is a boutique experience. Maintenance can be and usually is daily if i’m being picky.

[Anonymous No.10104663]

>>10104654
yeah, don't do it

[Anonymous No.10104682]

>>10104572
Youre not wrong. My place doesnt do that. I personally work on every game there and im an owner. All crt’s, all original pcb’s. Other ‘bar cade’ owners think im nuts, but i want the real shit. Yes, im tethered to evergreen games always needing to be on the floor, but my place is small enough to where i have to put out some fresh shit. I have no problem putting out stuff like B Rap and the boys or Super Puzzle Fighter 2 knowing ots only for cultural enrichment.

[Anonymous No.10104689]

>>10104641
>They say that.
>What they do is another matter.
I can't speak for your barcades, but the ones near me want original parts and original cabinets. Not any Frankenstein Mame conversions. I was at the auctions where the bought the machines. They do a solid job maintaining the cabinets. That may not be the case with your barcades near you. But surely you must realize the same that not all barcades are the same.

[Anonymous No.10104696]

>>10104689
Agreed. Ive been to some turds, but most of the ones ive been too in bigger cities are absolutely legit. FreePlay in the DFW area, 1up in Denver, Galloping ghost. No doubt there are a bunch of shithole, greedy, dumpy places, but they always get filtered in time.

[Anonymous No.10104716]

>>10104579
Awesome. That well-timed five hit super combo really fucked him up. Such a beautiful game. Out of all the masterpieces capcom has developed, i think they really deserve a spot in the annuls of time with SF2.

[Anonymous No.10104747]

>>10104396
Wow I haven't seen those machines in 20 years. This thread needs more pictures.

Post more arcade pictures all of you.

[Anonymous No.10104759]

>>10102859
I like that superior barcades thst are now common with every game costing a quarter. My favorite game is probably MvC 2; specifically one I played that was in a modded dual screen racing machine. It was neat and very comfortable. I do not own a cab, but I suppose I wouldn't mind a MAME.

[Anonymous No.10104908]

>>10102859
>Do you miss arcades?
I do...

[Anonymous No.10104916]

>>10103048
Have you played street fighter 6 at all? Rematching an opponent takes literal seconds. It actually shocked me cus I feel exactly like you do.

[Anonymous No.10105056]

>>10102859
>>10104908
Arcade industry fan here. The reason old arcades failed was because the same games were put on consoles. This killed any reason for people to go arcades.

Modern arcades are different and learned from past mistakes. The big corporate chains like Dave and Busters will actively refuse to carry any modern game that has a console release. And have even cancelled huge batches of orders of arcade machines when manufacturers announced a console version. These big corporate chains carry a lot of weight. Arcade manufacturers like Sega and Bandai Namco have to take their wishes into consideration when making new arcade games. And long standing game franchises like Pac Man or Halo MUST have an arcade specific game exclusive for arcades. It can't be released on consoles.

[Anonymous No.10105108]

>>10103597
If you only live half an hour away it shouldn't be too tough to get out there. I'm like 90ish minutes east now and my brother lives in Alabama, so it's a rarer occurrence. My wife is a decent sport about it the two times ive dragged her along, but it's clearly not her thing.

[Anonymous No.10105109]

>>10103698
those are not arcades, just gambling parlors.

[Anonymous No.10105112]

>>10102859
I live maybe ten minutes away from an arcade. It has Guitar Hero, House of the Dead 1, that multiplayer Japanese drum game, three cabinets of some Initial D game, tons of fighting games including Street Fighter Rainbow Edition, and an entire pinball room. It's so much fun.

I really like House of the Dead. The bosses are such bullshit to the point of being funny obviously, but it is really fun. I can't imagine owning a cab because if it breaks or I need to move it I would be fucked.

[Anonymous No.10105116]

I'm really sad there aren't more places like Galloping Ghost in the USA.

I was watching interviews with galloping Ghost founder Doc Mac and he said his business plan was to make a huge ass arcade with hundreds and hundreds of arcade video machines and then charge admission. He started with 300 ish machines and is now almost 1000 machines in the arcade. It seems to be very successful.

Just a massive Big ass arcade with a focus on lots of arcade machines (No ticket redemption or any other crap). Just pure arcades machines. It's become so big that it became a tourist destination and mecca for arcade fans.

Why haven't any other arcade tried this business model?

[Anonymous No.10105119]

>>10105112
>I can't imagine owning a cab because if it breaks or I need to move it I would be fucked.
There are different House of the Dead arcade cabinets. Some are smaller and some are huge that you sit inside and play. Do you know which one your arcade has?

[Anonymous No.10105123]

>>10104579
Good one! I hope you're having fun.

[Anonymous No.10105135]

>>10104643
Thanks for answering.

[Anonymous No.10105136]

Anyone have arcade recs in Houston?

[Anonymous No.10105139]

>>10104268
>Barcades came 10 years too late. They started showing up in the 2010s. But the arcade industry needed them in 2001.
i'm not sure it would have helped. in europe proper arcades were few in numbers, most of the time they were a small room/corner in a bar/cafè/restaurant/pizzeria with a dozen of cabinets. and yet even those didnt survive anyway. gambling machines were better for owners and most of the people stopped playing arcades due to the rising prices.

[Anonymous No.10105145]

>>10105116
I'm the guy who grew up down the road from GG.. I went very shortly after it opened and talked to one of the managers and what you've brought up and he mentioned how hard it was to find funcational cabinets of games that weren't at every arcade in the 90's (simpsons, xmen, neogeo carts, tmt, etc..) And that finding pcbs for some of the really deep cuts is all but impossible. The reason that they've managed to get so many now is directly due to the success they've had in the past and being able to bring people on staff or to hire the services of people to both repair and hunt down these things. I think they've bought an actual shop, but in the early days the half of the building that didn't have cabinets in it was a giant workshop full of gutted machines. Because it was so empty when I first went he showed me around and explained some of what was going on in there. Really Really cool stuff.
>>10103792
Seismically based. $5 and quarter pinball is laughably inexpensive. I wish it were closer to where I live and I wish you nothing but the best.

[Anonymous No.10105151]

>>10105139
Is there any goycattle activity worse than shit like video slots?

[Anonymous No.10105153]

>>10104268
>Another issue is that arcade collectors and preservationists can usually only fit upright cabinets in their homes
I'm telling you guys. Buy a little bit of land outside of the city. Then space will not be an issue for collecting arcade cabinets.

[Anonymous No.10105154]

>>10104682
>Super Puzzle Fighter 2
Post the cab i gotta see it

[Anonymous No.10105163]

>>10105151
video poker got its charm, but slots are a cancer. truly low-iq goy tier.

[Anonymous No.10105168]

>>10105145
Different anon here but are you saying that that Galloping Ghost is unique and it would near impossible for another business to copy their business model because some arcade machines are too hard to find? It would be awesome to have a few more Galloping Ghost style arcades in the USA. One for the west coast. One for the East Coast like Florida. Maybe one more in the South like in Texas. Just enough so people can get a taste of what it's really like to have a no nonsense true arcade. Not a barcade. A real arcade.

[Anonymous No.10105172]

>>10105151
>Is there any goycattle activity worse than shit like video slots?
I've noticed that gambling and video slots are more about the social activities surrounding it. You go with some friends. Play the slots while smoking, drinking, telling jokes, and meeting other people who are also playing. The slot machines are just a background activity for everyone to get together and do.

[Anonymous No.10105174]

>>10105168
Not at all. The business model is pretty straightforward - Collect as many working cabs as you can and plug them in. Then charge people to play them- I'm saying that they've got some really obscure stuff that there would really hard to track down and just as hard to fix/maintain. I think the way you've laid it out is feasible, but I'm just saying that not every po-dunk town can have something like that because of resource scarcity. If you're looking at it as like quadrants of the US, then I think it's absolutely possible.

[Anonymous No.10105190]

>>10105145
Why has no one else tried it?

[Anonymous No.10105214]

>>10105190
Maybe they have and it didn't catch on? The anon in this thread is having success, but his is more of a barcade. Maybe there's a certain threshold of variety you need to keep people entertained? Maybe you need a specific demographic of millennials with disposable income and kids who want some other way to while away their time? last time I was at GG they had a tournament going on where there were 4 tv's hooked up with a fighting game (I don't remember which) being played. There was a tournament bracket posted and at least 35 zoomer aged kids standing around cheering and talking. I'm 38 and it was extremely reminiscent of the times I spent at arcades where someone was about to 1cc a game or break a high score. Perhaps you need stuff like that? I'm spitballing because I don't actually know the answer....I would honestly describe it as svol.

[Anonymous No.10105218]

>>10105116
It's not GG size by any means but in Indianapolis there's a retro arcade in a mall that has a pretty good game selection. I wouldn't be shocked if there was something like this in a lot of mid size cities.

https://www.bossbattlegames.com/game-list

[Anonymous No.10105248]

>>10105119
Mine just looks like a standard cab with two guns and no room to sit.

[Anonymous No.10105256]

>>10105248
Hs5? Konami 4 player? Atari fighter? Midway mk cab?

What model cab is it

[Anonymous No.10105274]

>>10105248
This one?

[Anonymous No.10105307]

>>10105248
Or this one?

[Anonymous No.10105560]

>>10103792
Living the dream.

[Anonymous No.10105564]

>>10105214
A lot of arcades and barcades host smaller grassroots FGC tournaments now I’ve noticed. I think it makes sense, definitely plenty of crossover, the tournament gets a good venue, the arcade gets more foot traffic and they’re usually streamed on twitch so it’s free advertising

[Anonymous No.10105592]

>>10105274
It's this one.

[Anonymous No.10105601]

>>10105108
My sister really wasn't into it either, but she still went with us last summer. That's why it was just my cousin and I this year.
I'll probably go again this winter or at least one more time this year.

[Anonymous No.10105607]

>>10102859
Most arcades were in dark and smelly buildings filled with cigarette smoke, so no, I do miss light gun games, though. One of the few good things about the Wii was that light gun games made a brief come back. Why brief? House of the Dead 4 and Time Crisis 4 were PS Move exclusive. Good job, Namco and Sega, you fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.10105657]

>>10105153
Good advice, IF you live in a safe place. Otherwise, the place will get busted by drug addicts looking for a quick cash.

[Anonymous No.10105863]

>>10102859
What is an arcade?

[Anonymous No.10105919]

If you prefer sitting to play
You probably prefer sitting to pee

[Anonymous No.10105936]

>>10105274
>>10105307
There's apparently a third variety, which is similar in design to the stand-up Lost World cabs, though I think I only recall seeing it once (could be a faulty memory too; I'm in the US and generally saw the pedestal model here >>10105274 and a couple of the rear projection ones). I have a pedestal The House of the Dead cab, in decent shape but could use a tube swap due to the usual dedicated cab burn-in. Recently got some NOS replacement stickers for the guns; not sure how many people realize that the guns are supposed to have decals on them since they probably didn't last very long in most arcade settings.

[Anonymous No.10105946]

>>10105936
This is the model.

[Anonymous No.10105960]

How time consuming is it to swap an astro city marquee?

[Anonymous No.10105964]

>>10105960
Forgot to attach pic

[Anonymous No.10105967]

>>10105863
I think it has Something to do with young men killing each other

[Anonymous No.10106080]

Would a thread like this survive on /vg/?

[Anonymous No.10106110]

>>10104539
>theyre also relatively affordable now (500 to 900 as opposed to the 10 to 15 thousand an old one used to cost back in the day)
That's because the one you posted is at least 30% smaller both in height, depth and length, uses an LCD instead of CRT, it's lacking a marquee with light, uses less powerful speakers, has no subwoofer, doesn't have an original board and the controls are worse.

[Anonymous No.10106132]

>>10106080
Why would you want to have it there? Have you been on the emulation general? It genuinely reads like a fucking insane asylum.

[Anonymous No.10106346]

>>10106110
>That's because the one you posted is at least 30% smaller both in height, depth and length,
Good. Big machine impractical
>uses an LCD instead of CRT
Literal upgrade
>it's lacking a marquee with light
Who gives a fuck theyre dead half the time anyway in most arcades
>uses less powerful speakers, has no subwoofer,
Lmao who gives a fuck
>doesn't have an original board
If it works and its licensed why do you even care? Its probably improved with new featured arcade 1up mvc1 lets you play every mvc and play online.
>and the controls are worse.
Every old machine has busted up dead controls. A1ups always work. Nah son, a1up for the win

[Anonymous No.10106379]

>>10106346
What a little faggot bitch you are.

[Anonymous No.10106391]

>>10102859
>Do you miss arcades?
No. I've been to several is just the last few weeks.
>Whats your favorite arcade game
I've played far too many to have one favorite
>Do you own a cab
Yes. A few.

[Anonymous No.10106418]

>>10106391
>Yes. A few.
What games

[Anonymous No.10106495]

I used to be too hard on Arcade1up before I learned more about the history of Japanese sit-down cabinets.
The little A1UP cabs are actually not that different in high, screen size, and form factor from a Sega City, Pony Mark I, or Tehkan Lava.

Still, if I ever do decide to get one it will be for like $50 off craiglist and I'll completely gut it then

1. Replace monitor with a high-resolution low-lag unit with rotating mount.
2. Replace controls with Seimitsu stuff (just my preference)
3. Add a coin mechanism and bucket.
4. Replace PCB with Desktop PC + Brooke board.
5. Redecorate the thing to be more generic and not dedicated to any one particular game.

Probably all of the above has already done by somebody out there.

[Anonymous No.10106504]

>>10106495
At a certain point the time and effort relative to the results and price point would make it more economical to just get a regular cab and run MAME in it or something.

[Anonymous No.10106528]

>>10106504
Well, this is pretty far off from that point.

[Anonymous No.10106535]

>>10106528
Aren't A1UPs a few hundred already? That said I guess you could probably get a used one for a bit less, since they strike me as something people would sell for cheap in a move or something.

[Anonymous No.10106562]

>>10106535
Yes. Less than $100 if you have patience.

[Anonymous No.10106635]

Couch and controller comfort and superior features > stinky arcade and gaudy wooden boxes

I dont like soicades

[Anonymous No.10106763]

>>10102859
Oh yeah. It's the best way to play classic games from the 90s and earlier.

[Anonymous No.10106813]

>>10104650

tha`fuck, do you all know eachother or something?

[Anonymous No.10106818]

>>10104654

you better not anyways...just for seriously posting pussy pie.

[Anonymous No.10106839]

>>10104006
>5 dollar entry is cheap. Your customers probably have no idea how good they have it.
It really is cheap. But I think the issue is that the locals probably don't care much about arcade games and just go there to hang out and drink. The games are an aftet thought. He probably makes more money on food and drinks. But he could charge more if he added more arcade machines. I could see $10 dollars being reasonable for a small town. Not sure if he's going for the family vibe like "Dave and Busters" but maybe a give a discount to kids. Make it 5 dollars for kids. .

[Anonymous No.10107090]

Post back in the day photos of your local arcades.

[Anonymous No.10107121]

When did the whole "50 cents to play, 25 cents to continue" thing start to become widespread?

[Anonymous No.10107128]

pretty fun for an arcade game, there is one nearby that is still maintained.

[Anonymous No.10107153]

>>10107090
>Post back in the day photos of your local arcades.
My one regret is not taking more pictures when I was living in the 1990s. All the cool stuff we grew up with is nearly gone.

[Anonymous No.10107158]

>>10107153
Yeah. My mom took a lot of photos, so at some point I'll have to look through old albums to see if there's anything showing the arcades of my youth. Actually, there used to be one or two other anons on /vr from my area (apparently older than myself), would be curious to find out if they took any photos.

[Anonymous No.10107162]

>>10107153
Arcades had been around for 30 years. In the 90s, No one expected all these arcades to suddenly disappear in a few years. It was simply a part of every day life. It's like asking why people didn't take more pictures of their local grocery store.

[Anonymous No.10107163]

>no quiz game translation scene
well poop

[Anonymous No.10107178]

>>10107153
>>10107162
Just made me think about how my family camcordered the shit out of events. Need to dig up those tapes and see if anything neat is on them. I know I went to Disney World back when they still had that Sega Innoventions attraction, though I don't really recall the camcorder joining us on that trip... sadly.

[Anonymous No.10107181]

THIS
This right here was the best Star Wars space-battle game ever.
I could run thru this whole game on 1 credit.
With no gunner.

[Anonymous No.10107201]

>>10105056
>Modern arcades are different and learned from past mistakes. The big corporate chains like Dave and Busters will actively refuse to carry any modern game that has a console release
Honestly that's very wise. If I were in charge of an arcade chain I would probably make the same demands too in order to protect my business.
I think Round 1 family amusement arcades made a similar deal with Konami. They bought the exclusive rights for the latest Dance Dance Revolution to be only in their arcades in North America. No console release either IIRC. Only arcade release only.

[Anonymous No.10107363]

>>10107090
Back in time to the 80s

[Anonymous No.10107408]

>>10106763
The big blues paled in comparison to the MVS/NeoGeo redcabs

[Anonymous No.10107545]

>>10107408
pfft.

Other way around. Big Blue has way more elbow room and a better viewing angle. And Q Sound.

[Anonymous No.10107549]

>>10107408
Depends on which Neo Geo model you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.10107606]

>>10103293
yes, alpha 3 is a kusoge

[Anonymous No.10107609]

>>10106080
just check /tekgen/ or /fgg/, stay the fuck away from /vg/ it's an asylum like >>10106132
said

[Anonymous No.10107751]

>>10106346
why are you zoomer normies so stupidly clueless, dumb and braindead to the point you have to call an electrician to change a lightbulb?

[Anonymous No.10108687]

>>10107606
Go back to /fgg/

[Anonymous No.10108706]

There's at least two different "Big Blue" cabinets associated with Capcom games in NA.
There's the older one which usually started out life as a Street Fighter II CE.

[Anonymous No.10108715]

Then there's this style with the flat front.

[Anonymous No.10108720]

And then there's the ones with the separated box for the marquee. So that's three so far.

[Anonymous No.10108729]

There is also the Japanese Playzass cabinet which was probably partial inspiration for the design of the Big Blues.

[Anonymous No.10108736]

And the very similar Captain IV.

[Anonymous No.10108740]

>>10108706
I feel like I used to see the red variation of this cabinet everywhere.

[Anonymous No.10108759]

>>10108720
There is a version where the detached top marquee box is half the size.

[Anonymous No.10108762]

>>10108740
Probably because sf2ce also came in a red z back cab with the same artwork? Or maybe youre thinking of the mvs 6 slot cabs

[Anonymous No.10108768]

>>10108740
The red Z-back dynamo version, or one with the larger control panel like the Big Blues?

I feel like I have seen the CE Big Blue in a gray color.

[Anonymous No.10108769]

>>10108759
Ive been hoping to come across a jojos venture in one of these. Ive only seen 1 big blue jojo and the marquee box was fucked up, the cpo was for sf2ce or something, and the control panel stickers were missing. Button colors were wrong as well

[Anonymous No.10108771]

>>10102859
space harrier is king

[Anonymous No.10109521]

>>10106813
No

[Anonymous No.10109527]

>>10106839
I dont want children in there at all.

[Anonymous No.10109547]

>>10108687
t. d rank

[Anonymous No.10109590]

Why isnt 2nd impact on nesica live
Only 3s
2i has a widescreen setting, it would look great

[Anonymous No.10109619]

>>10109590
I'm really hoping for a SF3 anniversary edition game some day with all the stages and music from all three games, and of course widescreen support.

[Anonymous No.10109631]

>>10102859
And fuck Barcade. They hold a trademark on the word ‘barcade’ and keep attorneys on retainer to scour the internet for any bar arcade using the term ‘barcade’ and sue the fuck out of them. Its shitty.

[Anonymous No.10109638]

>>10108729
What a heavy looking beast. Must be a PIA to move around

[Anonymous No.10109639]

>>10108771
I agree, Joe. Space Harrier is cool.

[Anonymous No.10109640]

This is the most aesthetically pleasing cab.

[Anonymous No.10109649]

>>10109640
I just can't get behind the wood grain. It needs to be Red and match its other brothers and sister cabs.

[Anonymous No.10109657]

>>10109640
On the one hand, it does have charm. On the other, it is the antithesis of what I associate with MVS games. It looks like something out of the 70s or some sort of cheap gambling cab

[Anonymous No.10109659]

>>10105145
Thank you for the complement. If youre ever in a town and find an arcade that charges $5 at the door, ask for the owner. Drinks on me.

[Anonymous No.10109663]

>>10105214
I make a point of rotating games. Having a smaller building necessitates it.

[Anonymous No.10109671]

>>10105560
Its been a lot of fun, but not without sweat, headache, and maybe some heartache too.

[Anonymous No.10109685]

>>10109657
I think SNK was trying to mimic Atari designed cabinets from the 70s and 80s. But then decided to change the look again with other MVS cabinets.

[Anonymous No.10109726]

>>10109640
I prefer the Japanese version.

[Anonymous No.10109732]

>>10109631
agreed its a generic word
>>10109639
thanks david

[Anonymous No.10109736]

>>10109640
I love wood grain and would have it on my own home cabinet if I ever got another one, but I'm not into the ergonomics of that particular design.

I have neck problems from a wreck, and a post from another anon in this thread about seeing a driving cabinet converted to MVC2 really got me thinking. Why not build or convert a true "sit-down" cabinet with full back and neck support?

[Anonymous No.10109740]

>>10104551
No need to build. Just buy two upright racing cabinets, convert them to your game of choice, and then arrange them side by side or back to back and link them.

[Anonymous No.10109743]

>>10109726
What's going on with that button layout

[Anonymous No.10109748]

>>10109743
That's the way they did it on the smaller Neo cabinets. Supposed to save space on the control panel.

[Anonymous No.10110073]

What do Japanese players think of North American cabinets?
Especially the stuff like the big Midway cabinets with full side arts, full custom CP artworks, cutom bezels, etc.

[Anonymous No.10110078]

>>10109619
At this point if capcom was gonna do it wed have it by now. I think online edition was meant to be a cheap alternative to a hyper sf3 anniversary

[Anonymous No.10110081]

>>10109736
>Why not build or convert a true "sit-down" cabinet with full back and neck support?
A fighting game and driving game deluxe cabinet? You mean something like this?

[Anonymous No.10110082]

>>10110081
Not like that.
With the steering wheel removed and joystick and buttons put in its place sticking out at the right distance and height for your hands to naturally come to rest on them.

[Anonymous No.10110086]

>>10110082
But that cabinet is pretty cool tho.

[Anonymous No.10110117]

>>10108706
The most heretical version: a Midway cabinet converted to six buttons for a Capcom game.

[Anonymous No.10110119]

>>10102859
I like the idea of owning a cab, or even getting a few and running a small arcade in my town. I know it's unrealistic but I genuinely feel like I'd be happy if I got to do that.

[Anonymous No.10110136]

>>10110119
Arcade cab ownership as a home user can be a bit of a headache, especially with prices as they are now, and even moreso if you plan to service everything yourself. If you do ever decide to get a real cab, I'd suggest learning how to solder and trying to limit your PCB buying to just your most wanted titles or fairly reliable things like MVS cartridges. Everything's great until your perfectly stored, multi-hundred dollar PCB shits the bed for no reason and now you have to spend hours diagnosing the fault and repairing it (or paying somebody else to do it, and hoping that the failed components aren't some obscure custom part which cab only be replaced by salvaging a piece from a different board).

[Anonymous No.10110146]

>>10110136
Or just completely dodge the PCB and arcade monitor subjects and go with a CRT-TV/PC-CRT
and a either a desktop PC/mister or a console for your internals.

[Anonymous No.10110150]

>>10110146
Well sure, that's a lot less troublesome and cheaper, but it sounded like he was referring to an actual cab.

[Anonymous No.10110161]

>>10110146
But I like the "pick up and play" appeal of arcade cabinets. I hate scrolling through menus and choosing my games to play. Those ridiculous "20,000 games in 1" Mame cabs don't appeal to me. I just want to walk up and immediately play a game. I don't want to be reminded it a fake.

[Anonymous No.10110169]

>>10110161
You could set it up to boot directly into whatever game you want instead of going through a frontend.

[Anonymous No.10110218]

>>10105056
>The reason old arcades failed was because the same games were put on consoles.
I disagree. I understand arcade owners may think this way, but arcades were on a downward death spiral prior to console ports of arcade games becoming 1:1 copies. The issue is cost and profit.
25 cents in 1985 is worth almost three quarters today(71 cents). By 1995, a quarter was only worth two quarters today. Even if an arcade machine had the exact same popularity in 1995 it did in 1985, it would still only make 66% of the profit it did back in the 80's. Meanwhile electricity costs and rent and upkeep are all keeping pace with inflation in terms of costs, and employees keep expecting higher wages due to inflation. It just got worse and worse for arcade owners as time went on.
Even worse, arcades constantly trying to push the technology envelope in order to compete with the rise of consoles and then PC gaming pushed the prices of the machines up. A deluxe cockpit cab version of Outrun was about $5000 in 1986, or about $14,000 today. The most basic DDR cab from 1998 cost $15,000, or about $28,000 today. So not only were arcade owners dealing with reduced profits and higher expenses, but also higher costs of getting new machines to keep people interested and replace the older machines that keep needing repairs.
Once everyone got the internet and could play with strangers without having to go to the arcade, it was all over.

[Anonymous No.10110232]

>>10102859
Went to a barcade tonight to play pinball, dope ass tourny organizer came up to me and asked me to come to their league tomorrow. Shit was cash and I'm so down to meet more people that play. I miss big arcades don't get me wrong but hell, I value communities more.

>Do you...want to own one?
Yes. December bonus gets in and I'll have a Halloween Pinball cabinet in my place.

[Anonymous No.10110241]

>>10110218
Not that anon but how could you possibly say that consoles didn't kill arcades? It's pretty well established that right around the N64 era is when arcades started declining and the Dreamcast era killed it. Once kids decided to stay home and play their consoles with friends instead of going to arcades, then the golden age was over.

[Anonymous No.10110268]

>>10110218
I also wonder if mainstream gaming trending more toward extended single player experiences and multiplayer competitions which lasted for hours at a time could've lessened the appeal of going to an arcade for the "average gamer." I certainly remember there being a positive fascination with how many hours it would take to complete a game by the late 90s, which is certainly in contrast with the short burst gameplay of arcade titles. And for the casual multiplayer aspect, games like Goldeneye, Halo, Madden, Mario Kart, etc made it even easier for people to have extended sessions of competitive play at home, without having to pay per round. Of course there's always the competitive arcade gaming scene, but things like mini-golf or mall arcades would absolutely lose some casual social gamers to things like 4 player Goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.10110297]

>>10110241
Because in Japan arcades continued to be very popular until just the last few years. Even after consoles reached parity with and surpassed arcades.

[Anonymous No.10110303]

>>10110150
That would be an actual cab.
>>10110161
Nothing stops you from installing a single emulated game in a cabinet. The only difference would be seeing it go through the boot sequence when you turn it on.
And with a suspend button you can make it so you only see this infrequently.

[Anonymous No.10110310]

>>10110303
I'll go out on a limb and assume that most people who want to own an arcade cab are thinking along the lines of an official commercial use cab with at least an arcade monitor and not an entirely homemade setup.

[Anonymous No.10110312]

>>10110169
It just baffles me that people still don't assume this is an option. Or think it's complicated to set up. People complain about having too many games or fiddling with front-ends.

Just.... don't do that? *shrugs*

I download my games one at a time as I take interest in them and "install" them before playing by examining all the art and manuals online, then going through and setting up my buttons and config for that game, then saving it all. I use the default RetroArch GUI as my front-end and have a simple game list in order of most recently played.

It's -not- casual friendly because I'm the only person who ever plays it.

[Anonymous No.10110327]

>>10110310
It's very easy to convert a commercial use cabinet.
Just remove the arcade monitor and JAMMA harness (you could use a JAMMA adapter but I think this is cleaner).
Then cut a piece of plywood to make a shelf for your TV or PC monitor and install that in the cabinet. Then set your CRT on top of that. No need to decase.

Leave the PCB, power supply, and transformer untouched. Or remove them if it matters to you.
Put your desktop PC inside the cabinet and wire it all up with some USB gamepad encoders and a little amplifier for the speakers.
You could secure the PC inside like a lot of people do but to be quite honest that's unnecessary. It's not going anywhere in there.
Wire the coin mech up to your USB encoder like another button.
Make a new bezel to mask your CRT and make it look nice, then you're pretty much done.
No need for keyboard and mouse. That's all done in your PC configuration to boot straight into joystick control.
Any time you need to do PC updates you can log in remotely from your other PC. Or you could use a laptop you can pull out through the coin door. Or keep the PC outside the cabinet sitting to the side. That's what I do. My cab has no "brains". It's just a monitor and USB controller connected by long cables to my desktop PC.

[Anonymous No.10110369]

>>10110146
>Or just completely dodge the PCB and arcade monitor subjects and go with a CRT-TV/PC-CRT
>and a either a desktop PC/mister or a console for your internals.

There's nothing quite like owning a piece of history anon. That's what these machines are. You own an arcade cabinet that brought smiles to thousands of kids and adults. If you start changing the parts, then that history is gone.

[Anonymous No.10110379]

>>10110369
I prefer playing video games.

[Anonymous No.10110382]

>>10110303
>Nothing stops you from installing a single emulated game
I don't want to play fake emulation. I want the real thing.

[Anonymous No.10110412]

>>10110218
You do have a point about inflation playing a role. Some games went from 25 cents to 50 cents to 1 dollar to 1.50 dollars in tourist arcades. But you are forgetting that Sega, Namco, Konami, and the other Japanese arcade manufacturers had to ship their cabinets from overseas. America was importing the cabinets from Japanese factories and shipping them in from Japan. So it cost more for Japanese games.

American games were still cheaper because they were made in American factories and didn't need to be shipped in from another country. So stuff like Mortal Kombat, Primal Rage, etc...still cost 25 cents to play.

Also, Japanese companies were just being straight up greedy. They were charging crazy expensive prices on their deluxe arcade cabinets because they could. I could name several arcade machines where Sega and Namco were easily charging 5x to 10x the price to manufacture it.

I follow some of the arcade scene in Japan, and a major reason arcades are dying is because the Japanese arcade manufacturers are killing it themselves with their big Greed. The arcade manufacturers are forcing arcade businesses into "revenue sharing" agreements where arcades must agree to split the profits from running the machine 50%/50% with the arcade manufacturer. Otherwise the arcade business will not be allowed to buy the arcade machine from the company.

The Japanese arcade manufacturers are mimicking how Western Theaters and Movies Studios interact. Similar to how a Western movie theater agrees to give Western studios a cut of ticket sales. Where Disney takes a huge cut of the ticket sale profit.

Japanese Arcade businesses must also pay monthly fees for online network access directly to the arcade manufacture so they can gain access to game DLC and other Game updates. The arcade company uses the network to monitor how much money each individual machine is making. All these fees have killed many small arcade businesses in Japan. Only the biggest chains can survive now.

[Anonymous No.10110480]

>>10110303
I think I only support installing emulators or LCD screens if the original parts are unavailable. Or if you bought a gutted cabinet that had nothing inside it.

[Anonymous No.10110485]

>>10110382
There's got to be like 500+ arcade games that are emulated at 99.9% accuracy these days.

[Anonymous No.10110512]

>>10110485
People who build (or buy) arcade machines want to get as close to the arcade experience as possible.

[Anonymous No.10110519]

>>10110485
You could say the same for nearly any retro collecting hobby if that's the case.

-Why collect Nintendo SNES games or NES games? Just buy a cart loaded with all Nintendo games ever.

-Why collect handheld Gameboy or Game Gear games? Just buy an SD card loaded with all games ever made and an adapter for the handheld system.

-Why collect for Sega Saturn or Playstation 1? Just use an SD card loader with every game ever.

-Why not just mod your original Gameboy color or Game Gear with a modern LCD screen? Modern screens are superior.

-Just emulate a Gameboy on your phone. You don't need a Gameboy!

Where does it stop? At some point you are getting away from the point of the hobby. It's not about how much your can bootleg the game data. Retro collectors want original hardware in its original form and original presentation.

[Anonymous No.10110521]

>>10110512
99.9%
Placebo tier.
You could not tell the difference with two machines set up side by side.
Consider that people play games at the highest skill levels on Fightcade and complete extraordinarily difficult 1cc's via emulation.

>inb4 meritless lag discussion
>inb4 ever so slight differences in sound pitch
>inb4 ever so slight differences in slow-down in [insert shmup]
>inb4 extremely situational and functionally meaningless glitch in 3 Neo Geo games meaning Neo emulation is "still bad"
both rationalizations of people who want to buyfag

[Anonymous No.10110526]

>>10110519
My hobby is playing video games, not collecting them. At what point did this discussion specify "retro collectors"? This is an arcade gaming thread, not a collecting thread.

[Anonymous No.10110531]

>>10110521
>99.9%
>Placebo tier.
>You could not tell the difference with two machines set up side by side.
Not tell the difference? You have threads on this board discussing CRTs and why they are superior to LCDs. There are threads discussing frames data, and lag from shaders. Threads about $500 dollar and $1K Retrotink upscalers to mimic the same look of old games. Retro gamers are an anal bunch.

>Consider that people play games at the highest skill levels on Fightcade and complete extraordinarily difficult 1cc's via emulation.
There's lag on Fightcade. There's always been lag in online play too. The reason people accept it is because the convenience of being able to play online at home drastically outweighs any other annoyances.

[Anonymous No.10110538]

>>10110531
The prior posts specified using a CRT multiple times. You're the one bringing LCD into it this. It's not part of the argument.

There would be lag if you somehow hacked an original CPS2 game and implemented net code into it. Because the lag is an aspect of the online experience, not anything to do with the emulation.
The point about Fightcade is that the accuracy of emulation in Final Burn Neo is good enough that the best players in the world will jump between it and real hardware while hardly noticing the difference.
Real world money tournaments are held on Fightcade. Sometimes for thousands of dollars.

[Anonymous No.10110540]

>>10110519
Buying shit for ludicrous prices is YOUR hobby, nigger. I just want to play video games.

[Anonymous No.10110546]

>>10110526
I get where you are coming from, but we are discussing arcade cabinets in this thread too.

[Anonymous No.10110563]

>>10110538
>best players in the world will jump between it and real hardware while hardly noticing the difference.
You have it backwards. The best players in the world jump on Fightcade because it's online play. The online aspect is 99% of the reason to use Fightcade.

[Anonymous No.10110574]

>>10110540
Why would you enter a thread about arcade cabinets if you didn't care about arcade cabinets?

[Anonymous No.10110667]

>>10110485
What part of real do you not understand?

[Anonymous No.10110672]

>>10110117
Honestly midway cabs converted for capcom fighters look alright when you black them out instead of trying to make a fake big blue

[Anonymous No.10110691]

>>10102859
How expensive is it to build your own arcade machine?

[Anonymous No.10110726]

>>10110691
Depends on the machine you want to make. If you just want something basic then it would be the cost of wood, glue, nail, and paint. Assuming you have the tools available.

You might even be able to find an empty and gutted cabinet for $100 to $200 dollars depending on the model.

[Anonymous No.10110731]

>>10110726
>Depends on the machine you want to make
I wanted to make one for 3rd strike, vampire savior, kof02, ggxxac+r and vf4ft, my favorite games

[Anonymous No.10110752]

>>10110726
Whats your budget?

[Anonymous No.10110759]

>>10110731
What kind of arcade cabinet do you want? Something full size? Or smaller?

[Anonymous No.10110761]

>>10110759
I don't know, I plan on opening a café someday and I think it would be nice to put some arcade machines there, so I guess full size would be better right?

[Anonymous No.10110782]

>>10110731
Do you want a cab for each? Or do you want a multi? Do you want to run the original hardware?

I suggest getting a modern lcd candy cab and running nesica live because you can run nesica live, the digital distribution service which is actually used in arcades in japan. The service was only officially offered to arcades in japan, but anyone can use it now because its been solved. Youd have to look further into that yourself but anyway it has 3s, kof 02, and vsav among others, no vf games though and the only gg on it is xrd. But i think its a pretty good compromise for a single authentic as possible machine this service was introduced in like 2010 so usually you see it in lcd cabs but sometimes in newer crt cabs like the sega naomi models (naomi univeraal, net city, new net city)

As opposed to a scratch build or trying to hunt down and convert several american cabinets

Though hunting down and converting a single cab is pretty easy. Doing several could be more cost and labor than my idea of lcd candy cab with nesica live on it

My idea would run you a couple grand for the cab probably but you might have to drive a long way for it. Nesica live can run on any decent computer but if you dont have one to spare, i think the stock taito type x2 computer it ran on is pretty cheap used.

But of course if you do this make sure you know how to run nesica live before buying the cab

[Anonymous No.10110794]

>>10110761
Since this is your first cabinet...If I were in your position, I would start with one standard arcade cabinet. Get an empty cabinet, put in an old PC with your favorite games loaded on it, and run the Mame emulator. Play it for long a while and see if you like the setup.

Don't think about the future right now with a Cafe or whatever. Just focus on what you personally like. Test it out. If you want something different then you can always change things in the future....But you have to start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10110804]

>>10110731
$1000 for an emu bartop.

[Anonymous No.10110818]

>>10110804
What did it retail for

[Anonymous No.10110836]

>>10110818
It didn't, the guy probably made 3 units with the kickstarter money. His facebook store doesn't have any, seems like he can't find parts or make the parts.

[Anonymous No.10110848]

>>10110836
Well
Good execution for a concept i dont particularly care for. But was he promising the backers hed go into full production or what

[Anonymous No.10111210]

>>10110526
Playing video games isn't a hobby, it's just consumption. You wouldn't say eating food is a hobby, same deal here.

[Anonymous No.10111241]

>>10111210
Depends on the games you play. Playing Assassin's Creed, Mario Kart, Grand Theft Auto, is consumption. Playing League of Legends, Street Fighter 6, Tetris, is a sport. Playing Dark Souls, The Last of Us, Monster Hunter, is art.

[Anonymous No.10111272]

>>10111241
Games can be art. Making a game can mean making art. But playing them is consumption. Sometimes its productive to consume though. Consuming art can inspire and motivate you. Though Consuming in excess, or consuming schlock isnt helpful generally. Its generally accepted that authors have a lot to teach us through their novels but if you did nothing but read 8 hours a day youd be a boring person.

And Playing a game competitively is a sport -- not the same as an athletic sport but it is a sport because competitive and skill based.

[Anonymous No.10111425]

>>10110218
>>10110412
Thank you for your insights!

[Anonymous No.10111463]

Arcades died in america because only urban areas can support arcades and our urban areas are too rough, kids were either too afraid or unmotivated and their parents would buy them increasingly comparable console ports.

In japan arcades can be everywhere because japan is nothing but city almost and its one of the safest countries in the world. violent crime is pretty rare anyway

[Anonymous No.10111480]

>>10110241
Irony is the dreamcast died while the naomi thrived

[Anonymous No.10111485]

>>10110379
Yeah so does he. He likes the games that he plays so much that hed like to physically own them. Whats hard to understand about that?

[Anonymous No.10111486]

>enter thread about real arcade cabinets and real arcades
>get extremely angry when people remind you that this thread isn't about homebuild MAMEcabs

[Anonymous No.10111531]

>>10111486
I saw a similar sperg in the candy cab thread not long ago. Wonder if its the same guy

[Anonymous No.10111738]

>>10110546
Which don't have to be original.

[Anonymous No.10111767]

>>10110574
To me the term arcade cabinet means the actual literal cabinet structure. Not the PCB or monitor inside. A machine with a PC connected to CRT TV is still a cabinet.

If said CRT is RGB/Component enabled and the modder does a good job mounting it inside and masking the appearance with bezels you'd hardly ever know the difference.
An absolute purist might be able to tell the difference between the pitch of the slot mask, or the difference in curvature of the screen between a Nanao MS8/9 and a consumer curved set from the turn of the last century.

But then you've also got to take in the fact that a lot of arcade operators do tube swaps with consumer televisions so it's not like that type of screen would be unheard of in a real arcade.

As far as the PC side goes: Final Burn Neo + Runahead + 240p output is more than good enough for hundreds and hundreds of titles. Good enough to run in-person tournaments on.
Or use MAME for older titles where you want to compete in online score competitions (specifying you are submitting a MAME score, in some ways using real hardware actually puts you in the minority for score players these days since so many more people use emulation).

[Anonymous No.10111775]

>>10110667
What part of 99.9% accurate do you not understand?
It is the real game by the way.
It's the same code running through a program that translates the code into instructions carried out by your PC.

What you're getting at is something that only the most extreme purists would care about, and then you're implying this is the majority view and I'm the silly one for suggesting a person could just bypass all the headache of real boards by using emulation. When it's the other way around: it's silly to spend so much time, effort, and money on a real hardware if the primary draw to a person is playing the video games. Which is the assumed primary purpose of owning an arcade cabinet: to play games on the cabinet. Collecting is assumed to be secondary unless prior specified.

[Anonymous No.10111789]

>>10110691
I am confident I could assemble a full working cabinet with all real hardware for less than $500. All of it brand new with the exception of the CRT monitor and the game PCB.

I would "cheat" by using a PC CRT and connecting it to a 31khz game but you didn't say it had to 15khz.

[Anonymous No.10111793]

>>10111486
Nothing in the OP specifies real arcades and multicades have been around for over 20 years now in commercial arcade settings.

[Anonymous No.10111802]

>>10111531
No, I'm the other sperg. Don't confuse us.

[Anonymous No.10111823]

Next arcade thread maybe op should specify no mame faggotry

[Anonymous No.10111962]

Is yahoo auction a good place to buy candy cabs?

[Anonymous No.10111993]

>>10111767
The problem with a lot of
mame multicade cabinets is that very few people actually do a good job with constructing their own Mame cabinet. The people you are references are the tiny small minority. The vast, vast majority (at least 90%) of Mame builders are people who just slap together whatever spare parts they have lying around without caring if it looks good or matches.

Because Mame is "free" it largely attracts the poorest, cheapest, and entitled people into the multicade arcade cabinet community. The kind of freeloaders who go onto official Mame forums and demand to know why their favorite niche game isn't working, and for the Mame developers to hurry up (even though they donated nothing to the Mame project). Or go into threads unrelated to Mame and brag about being able to play the game for free, and make fun of others who pay for official copies.

They have largely ruined the reputation of the Mame multicade community. To them, it almost becomes a game in how cheap they could make their arcade cabinet with random spare parts. Like it or not, having SOME money invested in their arcade cabinet project makes people a little more careful and conderate of what they are making. You actually have some skin in the game and want your money to make something good.

[Anonymous No.10111997]

>>10111993
Jokes aside, this is not a quality job.

[Anonymous No.10112006]

>>10111997

[Anonymous No.10112031]

>>10111775
Emulation is a relatively new thing. It's only been around on a wide scale since the 2000s.

>I'm the silly one for suggesting a person could just bypass all the headache of real boards by using emulation.

If people want emulation, that's an option. You're not silly. But there seems to be a hint of anger in your post that people want original hardware. You aren't even trying to see others perspective or why they might want original hardware.

>Which is the assumed primary purpose of owning an arcade cabinet: to play games on the cabinet.

You are splitting hairs to trying to separate the cabinet from the PCB. Many People want to play games on the arcade cabinet with original hardware (or close to it). They want to relive their childhood arcade experience. Simple as that. It's why there's a huge demand for these arcade parts and prices are so high.

[Anonymous No.10112059]

>>10111823
Agreed. I dont hate it, but the emulation crybaby shit isnt needed.

[Anonymous No.10112062]

>>10111789
Getting a WG k7000 chasis to work isnt really so tough. Dont be scared of a real arcade crt. Make sure you discharge the tube before removing the anode cap.

[Anonymous No.10112079]

>>10111789
So your saying you could buy wood
>I would "cheat" by using a PC CRT and connecting it to a 31khz game but you didn't say it had to 15khz.
I wouldn't exactly call this outright cheating. It's still a CRT. So at least the visual experience is the same as arcades. You will have to use an adapter to connect the monitor and it adds to the cost.

[Anonymous No.10112080]

>>10111775
Mame isn't even close to running 99.99% of all games. I could give you whole lists of games that don't work properly or don't even run at wll in Mame right now.

[Anonymous No.10112085]

>>10111997
>commit to turning an old piano into a MAME cabinet
>Should I use this available width to play some unique multi-screen game?
>No, let's just play SF2 in a fucked up aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.10112113]

>>10111993
the goalposts have flown away out of sight

[Anonymous No.10112121]

>>10112079
No adapter necessary for Naomi.
Probably the same for a lot of 31khz games. Namco System 246/256 looks like it has a VGA out.

[Anonymous No.10112127]

>>10112121
I forget vga exists

[Anonymous No.10112130]

>>10112085
Fucking world warrior no less
Apart from fucked up throws what does it offer than any other sf doesnt. Christ

[Anonymous No.10112156]

>>10112062
I'm not afraid of the arcade monitors, it's just easier and cheaper to find a PC CRT in great condition.

[Anonymous No.10112201]

>>10111962
Oh hey thats an interesting question someone should answer

[Anonymous No.10112225]

>>10111993
Sounds like a (you) problem that doesn't have anything to do with the concept of doing an emulation cabinet.

[Anonymous No.10112239]

>>10112225
Do you seriously have no idea why Mame cabinets are generally frowned upon by the community?

[Anonymous No.10112261]

>>10112239
MAME cabinet owners outnumber original hardware owners so I reject that premise of the community "frowning" upon it. Your community sounds like the members of arcade-projects.com, a younger and much smaller community than Build Your Own Arcade Controls.
/r/cade is also huge these days and leans more towards emulation than original hardware.

[Anonymous No.10112307]

>>10104268
>my problem is that arcades are buying up all the arcade cabinets

[Anonymous No.10112324]

>>10112307
>missing a keyword here
*Retired* arcade cabinets.

They original manufacturers no longer support them or make spare parts for them.

[Anonymous No.10112326]

>>10112324
>They original manufacturers
The* original manufacturers. Sorry. Quick typo fix.

[Anonymous No.10112338]

>>10112261
Maybe things have changes as the years have gone by, but mocking photos of ridiculous/lazy/ugly MAMEcab builds was a pretty big meme in the gaming community back in the 00s to early 2010s.

[Anonymous No.10112354]

>>10112324
>retired
Yep. Very Big missing keyword here. Im already seeing Barcade owners complaining on arcde forums and YouTube that they can't find some classic arcade cabinets anymore because the market has become so scarce. One owner said it took him almost a year to track down a busted Burger Time arcade cabinet. They had to fix it themselves to put it on the floor. Its funny because Barcades themselves are causing the market for old cabinets to become scarce. At some point Barcades are going to realize there simply aren't enough cabinets floating around anymore. Not every Barcade can every single old 1980s arcade cabinet they want. Even 1990s and early 2000s cabs are getting harder to source now.

[Anonymous No.10112359]

>>10112338
That mocking was done by other MAME cabinet builders. CrapMAME was popularied by the Build Your Own Arcade Controls forum, which was primarily a community about building emulation cabs (albeit with plenty of original hardware enthusiast projects as well).

[Anonymous No.10112361]

>>10112261
>MAME cabinet owners outnumber original hardware owners
I'm gonna need a source for that statement.

[Anonymous No.10112368]

>>10112354
They'll just buy repros.

[Anonymous No.10112373]

>>10111997
That's hilarious, would never thought of that.

[Anonymous No.10112378]

>>10112361
Well you're not going to get one because it's something you either know from years in the scene or you don't. I can't point you at an academic study and I'm not going to sit here and do calculations about the number of threads per subject on every arcade focused internet site out there. Nor do I have the sales data on the secondhand market for arcade parts vs the number of people buying MDF sheets and SFF computers.

Asking for a source on this is ridiculous. You either agree with me or you don't based on your own observations.

[Anonymous No.10112383]

>>10111997
>>10112006
Bad faith/troll examples. Might as well have posted that cardboard one.

[Anonymous No.10112395]

>>10112354
There is upside to this. If an old arcade cabinet becomes in demand enough then they will re-enter production again. 1983's Ice Cold Beer is wildly popular with Barcades. So much so that you can't find them anymore. They all get snatched up quick whenever it's for sale. Supply can't keep with demand. It's so popular that Taito (the maker of Ice Cold Beer) agreed to remanufacture the arcade cabinet to help with the demand.

[Anonymous No.10112406]

>>10112378
>Asking for a source on this is ridiculous.
Making such a statement is ridiculous to begin with. Sounds like you are backpedaling and can't back up your words. Unless you count every single person running MAME on their computer as a "Mame cabinet", then my years of experience in the community experience tells me arcade owners outnumber Mame cabinet owners.

[Anonymous No.10112409]

>>10112395
Would be awesome if they started to manufacture new old style cabs, but unfortunately they'd universally be LCD cabs. I'm fine with LCD cabs (and would love to get a Viewlix or Lindbergh or whatever), but only when they're era appropriate. I actually have a new WG arcade LCD that I've never used for anything. Looked pretty good the one time I tested it.

[Anonymous No.10112424]

>>10112406
Those Arcade1up cabinets run on emulation (probably an old version of MAME) and those alone would outnumber original cabinet owners.

[Anonymous No.10112436]

>>10112409
I agree. The problem is that old style cabinets were shaped that way because the CRT screen needed that much internal space. If they use an LCD, then most of the cabinet would be empty.

I would be okay with that if they used the extra space to put in an absolutely amazing sound system with subwoofer. Not those cheaper speakers they used in the 80s. I want Yamaha or some other high end audio system in it to make it sound great. All that extra space means more room for amazing speakers.

[Anonymous No.10112440]

>>10112424
Arcade1up's use a commercial emulator called MOO. It's also used for various official PC emulation ports of classic games available on Steam. Don't know a lot about it but it's probably derived from MAME.

[Anonymous No.10112447]

>>10112424
>Arcade1up cabinets run on emulation (probably an old version of MAME)
A1Up cabinets don't use MAME. They use their own proprietary emulation software.

[Anonymous No.10112448]

>>10112436
>>10112409
They already do manufacture new old style cabinets, and they do use LCD.

[Anonymous No.10112458]

>>10112447
Yeah, but really it's splitting hairs at that point. MAME cabinet doesn't literally mean you are only going to be using MAME specifically on it. Most any MAME cabinet owner is going to be using Final Burn Neo for some games, console emulators for the odd arcade style console game, and native arcade-style PC games.

[Anonymous No.10112483]

>>10112458
>MAME cabinet doesn't literally mean you are only going to be using MAME specifically on it.
This is part where you admit your original statement was wrong. You tried to argue the Mame software specifically several times. So you aren't going to be able to weasel out and say "Uhhh...actually I meant all emulation machines and all emulation software tee hee." I don't actually care about either since I own both original arcade cabinets (a Neo Geo and Big Blue), and an emulation cabinet. I appreciate them for what they are. But at least learn to man up and admit you were wrong anon.

Say it. Say the words: "I was wrong."

We all want to see you type it.

[Anonymous No.10112493]

>>10112483
advanced autism

[Anonymous No.10112505]

>>10112436
Really a lot of my desire to see new cabs would be if they had arcade CRTs in them, which is really an impossibility. The last new arcade monitors that I'm aware of were Makvisions/Wei-Yas from the 2000s to early 2010s, and even those aren't of quite the same quality as some of the older monitors (I have a Makvision that I got a decade ago, and it has markedly bad image compression on one side of the screen).

[Anonymous No.10112507]

>>10112448
>They already do manufacture new old style cabinets, and they do use LCD.
Very few IIRC. I think Namco has a multicade they made that has Pac Man, and all their Namco Classics. SNK has that weird MVSX bartop. Not sure about Capcom. What fans want is a recreation of the original cabinet. Like dream scenario would be like getting Sega to make more AfterBurner cabinets.

[Anonymous No.10112523]

>>10112507
There are a half-dozen companies making flat pack designs that are inspired by old cabinets but shaped for a LCD to be installed. But they are almost all stick and button games. Maybe the odd lightgun or driving cabinet.

Yeah, nobody is making new Afterburner cabinets.

[Anonymous No.10112534]

>>10112493
>Why don't you people use Mame? It's easier.
>We like original arcade hardware.
>That's stupid you dumb n*gg*r! Waste of money!
>The market disagrees. There is huge demand for arcade hardware. People love it.
>Lies! Mame cabinet owners outnumber arcade cabinet owners!
>No they don't. Provide proof.
>Uhhh...NEVERMIND!
>Please go away anon. This is an arcade cabinet thread.
>Well what about Arcade1up?! They use Mame!
>They don't Mame.
>uhhh...autism!!
Lmao

[Anonymous No.10112563]

>>10112534
The post that started this thread of discussion was >>10110146
which doesn't specify MAME at all. It says
>desktop PC/mister or a console for your internals.
which was followed by some discussion here>>10111767
which again talks about using FBN or MAME, and in general just says "a PC".
Then an anon who is probably (you) comes in here >>10111993
and starts using the term MAME mulicade cabinets. Then anon replies to (you) with >>10112225
>emulation cabinet
and (you) once again say "MAME cabinet" again, even though anons before you didn't use that terminology so anon just acquiesces to your language and tries to talk some sense into you at your level.
But you can't even keep up with that.
And now with nothing else left to argue over you turn the issue to semantics.
I think you get in such a hurry correct people or flex what you consider to be superior knowledge and authority that you don't even take the time to read the people's posts you are responding to critically.

[Anonymous No.10112608]

>>10112031
>Emulation is a relatively new thing. It's only been around on a wide scale since the 2000s.
Which has exactly jack shit to do with this discussion about it.

[Anonymous No.10112609]

>>10111823
Oh I'm sure our fellow 4channelers will abide by such a request from the OP.

[Anonymous No.10112618]

>>10102859
>Do you miss arcades?
Not really. They were expensive, had broken/bad controls, and were home to a certain breed of 90s kids with a bad attitude I don't miss having around.
>Whats your favorite arcade game.
Galaga
>Do you own a cab, or want to own one?
Used to. Gave it away when I moved.
Don't want to own any more unless I move to a house with a lot more room.

[Anonymous No.10112625]

>>10111962
Depends on if you live in Japan or not.
If yes: maybe.
If not: no.

[Anonymous No.10112640]

>>10104552
I was talking more about how during the 2000s arcade players would bitch and moan about how they'd go to the local places that usually had arcade games and come out saying "they only had driving and shooting games". Because they were only interested in fighters or the odd shmup.
Historically, driving and shooting games are the original arcade games. Prior even to the video game versions. Joystick and button games were an era that came and went. So it's more like arcades just went back to the way they were in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.10112734]

>>10102859
I didn't go to dedicated arcades much. But I did grow up in an era where arcade cabinets used to be everywhere. We had a local grocery store with a few cabinet. My parents would go shopping there and take me. They would give me a Few dollars and tell me to go play in the small arcade section while they walked around shopping. It was fun (and probably a way to keep me quiet occupied while they shopped.) I also remember when 7-Elevens and Landromats had arcades inside them. You could walk by a local 7-Eleven and see a bunch of neighborhood kids playing the latest game. I met a bunch of kids that way too. I miss that era. Now everyone is just glued to their phone and don't socialize anymore. They don't even know how to ask women out on dates without using an app to arrange it for them.

[Anonymous No.10112762]

>>10104552
This literally a lie. Stop lying. Arcade cabinets were built to withstand more of a pounding. Literally using industrial grade plastics and thicker wood.

Putting a standard home console controller in a public arcade will screw it up badly in a short amount of time if it's a high traffic area.

[Anonymous No.10112768]

>>10111997
That's actually pretty damn sweet.
>pull off a close victory against your opponent
>play a mocking riff on the remaining keys
>"Are you Ray Charles, because you play like you're blind as shit!"

[Anonymous No.10112769]

Why does arcade cabinet thread always attract the most mentally ill people? People screeching about emulation being better, or people irrationally angry at arcade cabinets even existing and talking about consoles being the best? Like I get you had a terrible childhood, and couldn't go to arcades but the rest of us don't want to hear about it. Get some therapy.

[Anonymous No.10112797]

>>10112769
I don't know, some of it seems like sour grapes from people who want but can't obtain a legitimate arcade cabinet, so they're dead set on turning the discussion toward homemade emulation setups or why arcade cabinets were actually always shit or something. Sure, a homemade arcade setup can be great, but it's akin to somebody arguing that the existence of $5 Aliexpress bootlegs means that real carts should have no collector value

[Anonymous No.10112823]

>>10112797
None of this discussion has been that.
Your head-canon is staggering.

[Anonymous No.10112848]

>>10112797
>>10112769
I just went back through this thread from the start.
There have been nine (9) posts in this thread out of 310 so far which directly addressed the in-game content of arcade games.

There is no arcade gaming thread on /vr/. There is only gearfagging.

Same if you go anywhere else labeled as an arcade community.
Endless threads about the hardware, practically zero discussion of playing the games.

[Anonymous No.10112860]

>>10112848
True, but it makes sense. The arcade gaming experience and the specifics of arcade setups are a discussion topic in and of themselves.

[Anonymous No.10112876]

Play Metro-Cross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f1CWpIP4iE
It is very fun.

[Anonymous No.10112978]

>>10112797
>Sure, a homemade arcade setup can be great, but it's akin to somebody arguing that the existence of $5 Aliexpress bootlegs means that real carts should have no collector value
Exactly. It's so bizarre to me when I see comments bashing real original arcade hardware.

[Anonymous No.10113012]

>>10112978
Quote the exact posts in this thread which is "bashing real original arcade hardware".

[Anonymous No.10113020]

Over the years I've had everything from a Big Red 4 Slot and several Midway/Atari based cabinets.
Traded it all away for this Blast City here that someone put a Pandora Box in originally.
Fixed all the weird wiring and got a legit CPS2 working on it now.

[Anonymous No.10113034]

>>10112848
Not any of the anons you are replying to, but...
With a thread as generic as "arcade discussion", what did you expect? You get the same thing from a "PC discussion" thread. Some posts about the games, mostly chatter about the hardware and emulation of hardware. I'm sure a "console discussion" thread would do about the same. Trying to discuss an entire range of platforms in a single thread doesn't lend itself to discussion of individual games. If you wanna talk about games, it helps to either have the OP be about a specific game or genre of games. Like that thread about that Star Trek game that has been up for 5 days now. I'm not implying you are OP, but just saying.
Generic threads attract a lot of discussion about hardware and other related things since that's a better place for them than threads about specific games or genres.

[Anonymous No.10113064]

>>10113034
How about anons tell anecdotes about their gameplay experiences in arcades?

[Anonymous No.10113127]

>>10113064
>complains about a lack of discussion of the actual games
>wants anons to blogpost anecdotes about arcade trips instead
What?

[Anonymous No.10113157]

>>10113012
Why? You have eyes don't you?

[Anonymous No.10113162]

>>10113020
>Over the years I've had everything from a Big Red 4 Slot and several Midway/Atari based cabinets.
>Traded it all away for this Blast City...
I don't think that was a fair trade anon.

>...that someone put a Pandora Box in originally.
DEFINITELY not a fair trade.

[Anonymous No.10113387]

I miss old school arcade advertisements. They had no problem with eye candy and harmless fun jokes. Everyone is too sensitive nowadays. The old days were fun.

[Anonymous No.10113392]

>>10113387
Sauce

[Anonymous No.10113394]

>>10113387
IRRESISTIBLE FORCE!

[Anonymous No.10113553]

>>10112769
you arcade people seem the most mentally ill to me

[Anonymous No.10113651]

>>10113392
Just old arcade advertisements anon. They used to send these to arcade owners back in the day. Flyers, magazines, etc...all trying to sell you the latest arcade machine. I have no idea if they still even do arcade flyer advertisements or even make arcade sales magazines anymore.

[Anonymous No.10113680]

Usually causal customers wouldnt notice if give a damn if i was using emulation and lcd’s in my machines. But since i dont, i let customers know ‘everything you will play in here is original hardware.’ They get a kick out of it when they know and will shit on other places that use emulation and lcd’s.

[Anonymous No.10113698]

>>10113553
>you arcade people seem the most mentally ill to me
The opinions of mentally ill people obsessed with talking about emulation in the wrong thread do not matter.

[Anonymous No.10113721]

>>10107751
>call an electrician
lolwut? We call the landlord to call the electrician. Would you like to try some of these delicious organic free range bugs?

[Anonymous No.10113746]

Real hardware / crt >>>> emulation / lcd

Sometimes though, it can be hard to fix or replace a crt if you run an arcade with dozens of games not all of them can be perfect. Same for a pcb.

[Anonymous No.10113808]

>>10113746
All these emulator anons don't even realize that arcade operators aren't even legally allowed to use Mame or most emulators in a commercial setting like an arcade business. The User Agreement when you agree to use the emulators state its for preservation and private use only. No business use allowed.

If they cared enough, the Emulator makers could sue your arcade for using their Emulator. Arcade businesses have enough to worry about. They don't want to wonder if their games are legal or not. It's just an extra headache they don't need.

[Anonymous No.10113823]

>>10113808
Solution: Live in a third world shithole

[Anonymous No.10113862]

>>10113808
>User Agreement
No one cares about that. The police aren't going to bang down your door over running MAME games.

[Anonymous No.10113878]

>>10113808
>>10113862
People probably laugh at the idea of a user agreement. But I recall several years ago that Nintendo served warrants to numerous arcade businesses for running unauthorized Nintendo games. It made the News.

Nintendo actually hired undercover investigators to actually go into arcade businesses to inspect their games and gathered evidence over many months. They also served cease and desist letters to those custom arcade cabinet makers for using unauthorized Nintendo roms. Police actually showed up with a Nintendo representative to shut down a few cabinet makers businesses in person.

It was very surprising to some people that Nintendo actually spent money enforcing their copyright. Gamers laughed at Nintendo wasting money, but imagine being an arcade owner and it happening to you.

[Anonymous No.10113923]

>>10113808
Modern barcades do use mame however

Old arcades didnt use it because emulation was shittier and boomer operators didnt know how to use it, unlike the modern gen x irl soijaks who run barcades.

Truth is the legality was never a fuckin factor, unless it was a chain. Sf2 rainbow edition was everywhere but shit wasnt legal. Explain that one.

[Anonymous No.10113924]

>>10113862
If i was a cop id bang down the door for as many shitty mutilated mame cabs as i could.

[Anonymous No.10113932]

>>10102859
I was born on 88 and I do miss them, but I´ve grown too big for them. Rather play online through fightcade or couchplay with friends.
I still use arcade stick and old CRTs. but the cabinets (specially new ones like One UP) are just too small and make my back hurt.

[Anonymous No.10113947]

>>10113878
FUCK nintendo.
DXKRKH
8SA2HS

[Anonymous No.10113950]

>>10113932
Ever played on a japanese sitdown cabinet?

[Anonymous No.10113959]

>>10113950
Yeah! Lived in Tokyo for a couple years and played Tekken and SFV. It´s a little bit better in the short run but I end up leaning forwards after an hour or so, when I stand up I still end up feeling sore.

[Anonymous No.10114095]

>>10113878
Mind linking us the news? I googled a bit and all I could find was articles about how that one guy who hacked them now owes them 15 million dollars.
>Police actually showed up with a Nintendo representative to shut down a few cabinet makers businesses in person.
Unless this happened in Japan, it kinda sounds like bullshit. Here in the US, the best they could do is send a C&D letter, and the business would respond by removing the Nintendo ROMs and continuing forward. Or just change the name/website and keep going.

[Anonymous No.10114234]

Been trying to record a 1 life run of VS. Super Mario Bros. the last couple of days.
Woke up this morning and my right hand was completely numb.
Time for a break.
Getting old sucks.

[Anonymous No.10114262]

>>10113162
I would trade a MVS 4-slot and a Midway cabinet for a Blast City in a second. The former cabinets are very common in NA.

[Anonymous No.10114272]

>>10112876
so did anyone play it? did you like it?

[Anonymous No.10114279]

>>10113746
You can emulate on a CRT.

[Anonymous No.10114280]

>>10114234
Lighten up on the long sessions and quit fighting your own body. Go for regular walks now before your feet start going numb and you start falling because your feet don't even respond anymore. If you don't walk at least 20 minutes a day, you're gonna have prostrate issues. Also focus on making sure you spend a good amount of time looking at things far away and off into the distance, looking at a close-up screen all the time will only make your eyes fall apart quicker.
It only gets worse from here.

[Anonymous No.10114378]

>>10113808
>All these emulator anons don't even realize that arcade operators aren't even legally allowed to use Mame or most emulators in a commercial setting like an arcade business.
Everyone knows this.
What's happening here is there is an anon who can't seem to make the mental divide between discussions of home-use emulation cabinets and commercial arcade machines. So any time the idea of an emulation cab gets brought up he starts going on about how that won't work in a real arcade when nobody said or implied it would.

[Anonymous No.10114532]

Was there EVER a situation in which a company used an emulator against its license and there were relevant legal consequences?

[Anonymous No.10114612]

>>10114532
Yes. Look up the history of a company called Ultracade.
https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Ultracade

[Anonymous No.10114635]

>>10114612
I remember going to a Dave and Busters which had one of those things back in the early 2000s. Funny to see how much of a coordinated scam it was, and not just some nameless Chinese company shipping out multicades.

[Anonymous No.10114763]

>>10114378
The fact that that kind of set up isnt practical for commercial use means that historically it wasnt. Its not what they had in arcades. So it doesnt have that additional sentimental appeal. Its merely the sum of its parts.

[Anonymous No.10115046]

>>10114262
Was it just 2 cabs for 1 in the trade? Or did you actually give Atari cabs as well? Some Atari cabinets are very rare now. Trading 4 or 5 cabs for one Blast City with no PCB is not worth it imo.

[Anonymous No.10115117]

>>10114095
>Unless this happened in Japan, it kinda sounds like bullshit. Here in the US, the best they could do is send a C&D letter
Im not the poster youre replying to but you are very misinformed. Everyone involved in arcade business knows you don't screw with Nintendo. They've been involved with police raids in the USA since the 1980s. They literally send the Feds to your arcade to take your bootleg machines. Dont mess with Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.10115164]

>>10115117
Yeah, they've been worried about copyright here and there, but it was usually not to the extent of post-Wii U era with Koziumi and Doug Stick up his asshole" Bowser's reign as Nintendo bigwigs at top brass. Also, no company is able to win every case they throw. Sony did not literally win against Bleem!, they just dragged it on via sneaky litigation until the defendants couldn't financially support the project anymore.
Oh and don't forget when Galoob ended up getting sued by Nintendo in the early 1990s, but after all those hours, Nintendo LOST the case.

[Anonymous No.10115193]

>>10115046
I imagine hes referring to some of the generic 90s atari cabs meant foe fighting games and stuff. Like the one that looks like primal rage but with a weird control panel, or the one that looks sort of like a konami 4 player cab

Probably not the old ataris dedicated for specific games

[Anonymous No.10115303]

What is the typical diameter in millimeters of these arcade ashtrays?
I want to see if I can find a similar one during my trips the thrift stores and yard sales.

[Anonymous No.10115307]

>>10114612
Thanks! Didn't know about that. However, the consequences seem to have come from big softhouses, not because of MAME.

[Anonymous No.10115308]

>>10115046
I am a different anon, anon.

[Anonymous No.10115504]

>>10115193
>generic 90s atari cabs meant foe fighting games and stuff. Like the one that looks like primal rage
Those cabs are pretty pricey too. 90s cabinets are collectible now and in demand. Many children who grew up in the 90s wants them now as adults.

[Anonymous No.10115514]

>>10113020
Respectfully, I don't understand the appeal of Candy cabs. They look cool. But I don't get why some people are crazy obsessed with them. If you just want to sit down while playing a western cab, why not just get a bar stool? Or a chair?

I say this as someone who has played on both candy cabs and western cabs. My friend owns both styles. I have a Neo Geo big red 2 slot and big blue in my garage. I have some stools available for longer gaming sessions.

[Anonymous No.10115623]

>>10115514
The aesthetic (tastefully retro futuristic / minimalistic ) and comfort (nice 29 inch monitors usually, sit down, japanese controls, reasonable control panel space for hands even better when they commonly have head to head setups)

Idk if anyone else cares but you can throw any pcb in a candy without doing anything to it and itll look right at home so long as the cab and the game came from the same time frame roughly. I feel like with american cabs once a cab is converted you cant really deconvert it or convert to a new game without destroying something of historical value and even when you do it... it doesnt feel like it belongs. Maybe this is autistic

[Anonymous No.10115637]

>>10115514
The appeal is the mystique of knowing you are playing these games on the exact original developer intended set-up, and the same set-up the best players in the world used.

[Anonymous No.10115650]

>>10115623
A person could take a standard Dynamo cabinet and decorate it up with the Dynamo logos and then use it as a generic JAMMA cabinet. I think it could come out quite nice.

[Anonymous No.10115654]

Just posting a few flyers.

[Anonymous No.10115656]

>>10115650
Ive considered this before. And that is true. Funny, i have a dynamo hs2 right now.

[Anonymous No.10115659]

[Anonymous No.10115664]

>>10115654
Other than the height it has the same form and function as the candy cabs. Just use a slightly taller stool or chair.

[Anonymous No.10115667]

[Anonymous No.10115670]

[Anonymous No.10115690]

I really some of the marquees capcom came up with for american cabs. In particular, jojos venture, sf3 new generation, the other two sf3 marquees to a lesser extent, sfa1 and sfa2.

The control panel overlays, particularly the diamond plate but also the like... idk gray and dark blue marble thing you always see on cps2 games after super turbo, i like that as well.

I also really like just plain black bezels with just moveset guides placed at the top and bottom.

Simple clean look. Paint the sides of that cab black its beautiful.

[Anonymous No.10115705]

>>10115623
>reasonable control panel space for hands
I disagree with this. American showcase cabinets have crazy amounts of space on the control panel too.

>even better when they commonly have head to head setups
I will give you this. Sega Versus City Cabinet Setups are very unique looking. Each player has their own screen. It Strikes me as a very Japanese thing to make though. Not sitting next to your opponent and avoiding all confrontation is very Japanese. Isolates you from talking or seeing your opponent.

The Versus City cabinet itself looks like a huge pain in the butt move around though. The two cabs are permanently glued together. I wonder if it would have been smarter to just have a link system to have two Candy cabinets link up via some sort of cable.

[Anonymous No.10115720]

>>10108706
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/capcom-big-blue-guide.293609/

[Anonymous No.10115742]

>>10115705
Showcase cabinets are a curious case.
They were used for the highest levels of competitive fighting game tournaments in the USA from about 1998 to 2007.
But today they don't have much of an aura attached to them.
You'd think people would be hunting them trying to recreate those glory days but they hunt for the Big Blues and other smaller dynamos instead if they hunt for western cabinets at all.

[Anonymous No.10115758]

>>10115742
Could be a size thing? Like while most people have fondness for the sitdown Lost World cabs, they're fucking huge and hard to move, so the 29" stand up model is more common for home use.

[Anonymous No.10115784]

>>10115758
For many it would be, but then you see people with a whole row of cabinets in their basement so it's not like they don't have the room for one showcase.

I think instead it's a combination of factors.
The first is that somewhat ironically playing on a Showcase cabinet doesn't feel that arcade-y.
You're standing so far back from the monitor it's like playing on your television at home.
The second is the stigma of the showcase cabinet being from a latter era of arcade gaming that some might be a bit elitist about. It's not an 80s style cabinet.
And the FGC association might hurt it too.

They're actually not that hard to move.
They come apart.

[Anonymous No.10115887]

>>10115742
>But today they don't have much of an aura attached to them.
>You'd think people would be hunting them trying to recreate those glory days

It's ultimately a size issue. Most arcade collectors have limited space in their homes. And unless you have a garage, then showcase cabinets simply aren't viable. They weren't designed to fit through standard home doors either. Showcase cabinets were designed to be used in commercial arcade businesses with larger door, and in larger theme parks type arcades. Some collectors can squeeze them into their homes. You could probably find some people who own Showcase cabinets. But many others cannot...especially if your home is older with slimmer doors.

So the only solution are standard upright cabinets Big Blue, Neo Geo "Dynamo type" cabinets, etx. These cabinets were designed to fit through most doors. Manufacturers wanted to put these upright arcade cabinet into every business possible. So the width was limited in their design to keep their sales options open. Arcades, Grocery stores, Landromats, Pizza places, restaurants, doctor's offices, etc. They were put everywhere back in the day.

[Anonymous No.10115967]

[Anonymous No.10115990]

>>10115742
Showcase cab debuted 2001 iirc

[Anonymous No.10115994]

LOG IN magazine builds a home arcade machine with a PC inside it in 1984.

[Anonymous No.10116002]

>>10115705
The showcase isnt every western cab. Usually you had to deal with something like a dynamo hs5 which is alright but could be better. Sometimes you gotta deal with fat fucking assholes on a dynamo hs2 or a midway mk style cab.

[Anonymous No.10116004]

>>10115990
There were many similar precursors.
I'd have to get back to you on which cabinets started the trend of having a podium in front of huge screen. But they go back to the early 90s. Maybe even 80s.

[Anonymous No.10116019]

Pro-Play Home Arcade kit sold through magazines in the late 80s and early 90s.

[Anonymous No.10116025]

>>10116004
Would love to see

Yknow it feels like an american equivalent to the sega megalo

[Anonymous No.10116059]

>>10102859
I really need to finish mine sometime soon. Trying to source a good arcade monitor in my area but they're so expensive. I bought a Wells Gardner 19in from someone on OfferUp awhile back for $90 but it's got some bad screen burn in so I don't know if it's worth putting in it. It doesn't have a power cord either, I don't even know what it takes. Apparently it has a built in Isolation Transformer though - which is nice because DIY'ing that looks like a huge pain in the ass to build.

I want to re-do the control panel as well because what I was doing before I took a 2 year long break from working on it was retarded, the angle is too steep.

I might just throw a VGA CRT in there and call it a day, save up some cash and buy an actual JAMMA cabinet w a board.

[Anonymous No.10116067]

>>10116059
Buy a control panel on ebay theyre like 150 when they pop up

[Anonymous No.10116082]

>>10116067
I might do that. I know how to wire one up myself and I've made my own out of wood but it's hard to cut the plexi glass that goes over the wood portion myself without scratching the shit outta it

[Anonymous No.10116098]

>>10115742
>Showcase cabinets are a curious case.
>They were used for the highest levels of competitive fighting game tournaments in the USA from about 1998 to 2007.
>But today they don't have much of an aura attached to them.
>You'd think people would be hunting them trying to recreate those glory days but they hunt for the Big Blues and other smaller dynamos instead if they hunt for western cabinets at all.
>Showcase cabinets are a curious case.
>They were used for the highest levels of competitive fighting game tournaments in the USA from about 1998 to 2007.
>But today they don't have much of an aura attached to them.
>You'd think people would be hunting them trying to recreate those glory days but they hunt for the Big Blues and other smaller dynamos instead if they hunt for western cabinets at all.
Hmm but how many Versus City Cabinets are in private owner hands? Probably even less than Showcase cabinets. Versus City is massive and bulky too in a very awkward way.

[Anonymous No.10116101]

>>10116082
>wood portion
Que?

[Anonymous No.10116103]

>>10116101
Control panel made out of wood like this with a plexi-glass overlay

[Anonymous No.10116106]

>>10116101
If I could find something made out of metal that would be ideal though. Wish I could find something like this but cut out for 2 players

[Anonymous No.10116110]

>>10116098
>Hmm but how many Versus City Cabinets are in private owner hands? Probably even less than Showcase cabinets
Japanese homes are more cramped than american ones. But also, versus cabs arent really... appealing for home use. Great for fgc venues and arcades but unless you got a room mate or room mates who play a lot which i doubt

Not much more useful than an astro or blast

Hey when people go for candies why is is astro and blast never the naomi / net city cabs

[Anonymous No.10116116]

>>10116106
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225282074675?hash=item3473dba833:g:vTgAAOSw9nBgd6Or&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Ly6SyA29BHQwCXM7%2B8qGZPgkkwwYDwIVLrrwRcXMkoWRwqIqDwoqozXI5TRJcPNKvUH%2Fbg361zV5Sg70fhCzOa4Iqyi5CPwnJvwsLfNL%2BsV8bF9QdyCQL3H376dqdFqs8XmOb6p98biIbIoeLQeo81kNg8A2Lf2LPFaSuopjmOepGYkYNk7wq2wwNxN28D01VAzB1l4nUWwTRBzHOs2bXbRZgmbZcrLBf7mEl4PSqWMaNUN6QCn4WQLLyKvzM1VFGaczDR9NdEqZauOV%2BYzdtCVEt%2FgPyr7MbhgqrFlkBJz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96xkPS1Yg

Buy an hs5 control panel you have an hs5. Otherwise youre gonna end up with something that looks very strange

[Anonymous No.10116118]

>>10116116
I was just lookin at that haha, I'll have to do some measuring. The cabinet I have was originally SNK's P.O.W

[Anonymous No.10116127]

>>10116110
>Hey when people go for candies why is is astro and blast never the naomi / net city cabs
The only Net City cabinets near me were bright yellow Crazy Taxi cabs. And I'm not gonna spend time taking it apart, changing the control panel and internals, and painting it another color.

[Anonymous No.10116129]

>>10116118
Looks like the cabinet itself is HS-1

[Anonymous No.10116151]

>>10104214
>Wyoming

wow, someone else has actually lived there

[Anonymous No.10116164]

Got the 1cc of Super Street Fighter II X with N. Ryu on level 8 turbo 2 tonight.
But I had to hit the pause button halfway through to run to the bathroom because I was about to pee my pants.
So there's an asterisk next to it.

[Anonymous No.10116167]

>>10116164
*no-miss of SSF2X I should say.
1cc is a lot easier than no miss.

[Anonymous No.10116169]

>>10116110
>never the naomi / net city cabs
I might be totally wrong about this but I assume many of those are still present in modern day Japanese arcades.

[Anonymous No.10116180]

>>10116059
19" CRT television with component inputs would be better than a PC CRT, even if you settled for a flat tube CRT. Then convert the RGB arcade signal to component with a converter box.

[Anonymous No.10116186]

When did bat top sticks become dominant in western arcades?

[Anonymous No.10116205]

>>10116118
Fuck
Sorry it must be an hs1 or hs2 then sorry

Yeah you need an hs1/hs2 panel. The hs1 and hs2 both use the same panel theyre very similar cabs. Hs5 is similar too but cp isnt compatible because hs5 cabs are bigger

[Anonymous No.10116208]

>>10116169
Thats true but same can be said for astros and blasts.

If i had to guess its because boomer niggas want the one that cps2 and cps3 games were usually found in. Naomi cabs are for... well naomi mainly

[Anonymous No.10116213]

>>10116180
I’ll be running everything through a desktop since I bought the cabinet empty, so I don’t think I’ll have to convert RGB signals. Might look into CRTemudriver but IIRC you need a specific GPU for that.

Either way I’ll probably have to de-case the TV or PC monitor which I am not looking forward to. The whole discharging thing makes me nervous. I doubt I can fit a 19in screen in there with the case as well

[Anonymous No.10116218]

>>10116098
>Hmm but how many Versus City Cabinets are in private owner hands?
Not many but they are very highly sought after.

[Anonymous No.10116220]

>>10116213
>Either way I’ll probably have to de-case the TV or PC monitor which I am not looking forward to.
You don't have to do that.
If you're worried about heat install a small fan in the cabinet.

[Anonymous No.10116228]

>>10116220
It’s moreso getting it to fit inside the cab with the casing still on that I’m worried about

[Anonymous No.10116242]

>>10116186
They began appearing in the late 80s i think. And gradually take over in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.10116267]

What do you use for coins in your machine?
I use nickels.

[Anonymous No.10116316]

Does anyone know what happened to these Ridge Racer Full Scale machines? Supposedkt there were like 25 to 50 of them made in total for the world. But I can only find information on the one UK that got half destroyed. What happened to the other 49 Ridge Racer Full Scale machines?

[Anonymous No.10116326]

>>10116267
I have a handful of yen, but I honestly can't recall if I've ever used them. I generally either press the service switch or flip the coin mech lever by hand.

[Anonymous No.10116712]

>>10116316
No one knows. They all just disappeared one by one over the years until only a few were left.

[Anonymous No.10117914]

>>10116712
I feel for anyone that wants to play / or buy one now.

[Anonymous No.10117920]

Anyone know of any arcades in japan that still have at least 1 big rear projection monitor cabs for fighting games?

[Anonymous No.10117976]

>>10117920
Watch the tour videos on youtube until you spot one.

[Anonymous No.10118214]

>>10117976
Good tip i shouldve thought of that ive done it before for other games / cabs

[Anonymous No.10118353]

RIP Anata no Warehouse, what an iconic location
I mirror some others when I am sad that games don't just jump right in and kick your ass much anymore. I quit keeping up with current releases because of how much padding and handholding there was. Not that old games never had it here or there, but arcades had all but none of it and are better for it. On that note, Cuphead is a pretty sick modern game. Not my favorite ever, but it's pretty great. Feels like what games would have been like in the 32 bit and beyond if 3D had never taken over

[Anonymous No.10118431]

>>10115303
About 80mm across the top rim, going by comparing a 35mm balltop to these reproductions.

[Anonymous No.10118452]

>>10117914
>I feel for anyone that wants to play / or buy one now.
I just can't believe the gaming community didn't at least preserve 1 machine for a museum or something. Come on. It should be a no brainer.

[Anonymous No.10118490]

>>10118452
we aren't much of a community sometimes. What it amounts to is a bunch of obsessive nerds who occasionally have one person or a few persons with a unity of mind and an abundance of means that are able to just do this stuff of their own regard. It's all very individual and small and isolated. We aren't much for collaboration, maybe because gaming has traditionally been a hobby of loners and weirdos who struggle to socialize, or because teenagers and manchildren are bad at recognizing important things and at preserving them. Like we have a lot of collective want but not always the will, the way, or the wherewithall.

[Anonymous No.10118513]

>>10118452
That thing is fucking ridiculously huge. While there are museums now, they definitely haven't always been a thing, so when something like that was dismantled, there'd had to have been an individual who realized it was being put out to pasture, then convinced m the operator to let you have it (were they purchased by arcade operators, or were they put directly on locations by Namco in a profit share deal?), then figure out a way to dismantle it, transport it, and store it, all before the operator decided to just trash it because it's taking up to much space.

The best chance of preserving it would've been saving the game PCB and any associated I/O boards, which while great to have, would be a small fraction of meaningfully preserving the intended experience.

[Anonymous No.10118553]

>>10104268
>They bought up so much of the used inventory and driven up the prices like crazy. I can't even find some stuff anymore without paying crazy prices (if I can find it at all). 10 to 12 years ago it wasn't a problem finding them.
...and what are YOU doing with them, exactly?

[Anonymous No.10118560]

>>10118452
The fact that it has an actual car in it means that it was cannibalized for such as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.10118669]

>>10118553
>...and what are YOU doing with them, exactly?
Me? I just said in my post that I'm trying to restore an arcade cabinet (that I saved from destruction) with its original parts. But I can do it because any spare donor cabinets or spare parts have been bought up by barcades. Anything left on the market is outrageously priced. So to sum it up, I'm preserving history.

[Anonymous No.10118694]

>>10118669
Yeah, but what are you doing with the machines after you restore them?

[Anonymous No.10118705]

>>10118513
>(were they purchased by arcade operators, or were they put directly on locations by Namco in a profit share deal?),

With indie arcade owners, these units would purchase it directly from Namco. Then Namco would send a team to help set it up at a location. You would also have the option to customize it by changing some of the artwork, or use the default setup by Namco. Most opted for the default setup. The first owners of these were usually really big arcade chains, theme parks, and really nice mall arcades. Or any business with the budget to pay $150,000 for this machine. Namco did offer a payment plan assuming you had good credit. But I don't think profit sharing arcade deals existed back in the 90s between arcade businesses and arcade owners. I could be wrong, but thats more of a recent development.


Then the machines would be moved around several times in their lifespan. Sometimes being sold several times between different businesses. Owners could have changed several times. Since it was the 90s, it's hard to keep track of where they all went. It's a shame all 50 of them are all gone now.

[Anonymous No.10118724]

>>10118694
I don't follow your line of questioning? I'm not done restoring it?

If I ever complete the restoration, then I would like to pass this arcade machine on to my kids. I'm slowly teaching my son how to fix and maintain them. Hopefully he will be interested in continuing to preserve these machines, and their history and share it with his children. Most of my machines were ones that I saved from destruction (like a machine I found next to a dumpster), or bought from owners that were going to throw them out anyway. Then I restored them with parts I was able to locate with my limited budget.

[Anonymous No.10118757]

>>10118724
Yeah, but you complain about barcades buying them up to let them rot in warehouses. If you're just restoring them to keep in your basement, is that any better?

[Anonymous No.10118761]

>>10103293
Not a chance in hell. The only reason this narrative exists is because the American FGC got walloped in SFA3 and ran back to 2 with their tails between their legs.

[Anonymous No.10118785]

>>10118761
>america got walloped in sfa3
Because we liked it less. Theyre both good games but there are valid reasons to prefer either

[Anonymous No.10118786]

>>10118757
>Yeah, but you complain about barcades buying them up to let them rot in warehouses.
Yes. Barcades have can have many, many copies of the same cabinet in their warehouse that they keep around for spare parts. Thus draining the local supply of spare parts or used cabinets.

>If you're just restoring them to keep in your basement, is that any better?
??? I don't follow. What is better than what?

[Anonymous No.10118801]

>>10118786
Who's the one draining the local supply of spare parts or used cabinets, the people who need them in order to maintain a public arcade machine or the ones buying them up for fun?

[Anonymous No.10118810]

Barcades are public for people to appreciate

Collectors often sell off games within a few years of buying machiness

Either way you lose nothing and japan is filled to the brim with arcades. Why doom post?

[Anonymous No.10118815]

>>10118757
I'm gonna jump in here. Anon, you don't seem to understand. These are RETIRED arcade machines. They are no longer actively used by major arcade chains, and spare parts aren't made by the manufacturer anymore. These retired machines are old, and only a limited amount still exist. Many have been destroyed over the years. To make matters worse, the Barcades only focus on buying the harder to find Upright cabinets. Even though there's still a good amount of "sit down" racing arcade cabinets still around. But a barcade would buy a rarer Upright Daytona USA arcade cabinet, than the much more common Sit down Daytona USA arcade cabinet. Arcade collectors typically can't put these larger sit down sit down racing machines in their homes. But a barcade can easily fit one in their business. Yet they make excuses for only wanting the Upright models.

[Anonymous No.10118827]

>>10118801
>Who's the one draining the local supply of spare parts or used cabinets, the people who need them in order to maintain a public arcade machine or the ones buying them up for fun?
Anon you aren't making any sense?
Obviously the business will drain the local supply far more. I just need a few spare parts to restore mine.

Public arcade machines get played more, hammered, and abused by the general public. That's how it always has been. Because of that abuse the machines breakdown far more often, and need a much greater supply of spare parts. Thus draining the local supply and driving up the cost.

[Anonymous No.10118831]

>>10118815
I think any way you cut you're still not going to have much of a leg to stand on arguing against arcades buying up all the supply of arcade machines. They'll do what they have to do to keep people coming through the doors.

[Anonymous No.10118838]

>>10118801
Well, from the mid 2000s to the mid/late 2010s, there weren't very many arcades around (in the USA) and a lot of the ones that were around didn't care much about cabs from the 90s and earlier, or certainly not enough to house the vast majority of retired cabs/monitors/PCBs. Collectors/home users got a lot of this shit in the first place because operators were liquidating their unused inventory. If nobody were there to buy them, they would've just gone to the garbage. I'd also bet money that a lot of modern barcade operators were/are collectors themselves who spun their interest off into a business.

Yes, I agree, these games being in arcades again is better for the community and for growing public interest in these games, but it doesn't mean that collectors who were used to being able to buy games for cheap should just be happy about their hobby becoming more expensive through no fault of their own. Hell, one could argue that WATAfags are "improving" the non-gamer public's perception of old games by reframing them as valuable pieces of pop culture memorabilia, but that doesn't mean that your average collector is happy either them impacting the price of their hobby.

[Anonymous No.10118850]

>>10118831
Im not against Barcades existing. But I don't understand Barcades obsession with buying ONLY upright arcade cabinets. Is this a meme or something? Is this some hipster shit where the barcade owner smugly believes only upright cabinets are superior? The sit down cabinets were made in far greater numbers, and far more are available. These businesses clearly have the room to put the sit down cabs in their buildings. It's only slightly larger than an Upright cabinet. But these barcade owners constantly focus on "muh upright cabinet". I want to slap the crap out of them.

[Anonymous No.10118865]

>>10118801
>Who's the one draining the local supply of spare parts or used cabinets
Without question the Barcades. No doubt about it. Tell me fellow anons. How many Time Crisis 3 cabinets does a Barcade truly need for their storage warehouse? When is it enough? Why can't they limit their hoarding?

[Anonymous No.10118876]

>>10118865
Topkek, where is this?

[Anonymous No.10118884]

>>10118850
>But I don't understand Barcades obsession with buying ONLY upright arcade cabinets.
Easier to move.
Cram more cabinets into the same space.
Normies maybe less intimidated by them.

[Anonymous No.10118886]

>>10118865
Those aren't just Time Crisis machines. Those are monitors and coin doors.

[Anonymous No.10118891]

>>10118838
>but it doesn't mean that collectors who were used to being able to buy games for cheap should just be happy about their hobby becoming more expensive through no fault of their own.
It should.

[Anonymous No.10118901]

Shouldn't the dream of the arcade collector be the return of arcades to the point that no machines are easily found on the second-hand market because the demand is too high?

[Anonymous No.10118910]

Watafags artificially price hiking used games no one gave a fuck about before meant that white trash people are less likely to shitcan old games and more likely to sell them, even if theyre asking... double what lotr and spiderman are worth, at least theyre not being destroyed and the same applies doubly so to arcade shit

[Anonymous No.10118913]

>>10118901
The problem is that these old arcade machines break down and need constant maintainance in a public arcade. People don't realize that
Joysticks break, buttons stop working, lightgun stop registering, power supplies fail, capacitors leak, CRT monitors stop working suddenly. And this was when they were still new!

Imagine it now that they are 30+ years old. It's hard enough finding parts and fixing old arcade machines. Especially Pre-90s arcade machines. There aren't many spare parts around anymore. At some point we're going to run out...unless the original manufacturers decides to remake the arcade cabinet.

[Anonymous No.10118919]

>>10118891
We're not all cuckolds.

[Anonymous No.10118921]

>>10118901
That's the investor mindset. Lots of collectors actually use the cabs they own

[Anonymous No.10118924]

>>10118913
Nothing lasts forever anon. We're not actually in the antique phase of these things yet. The oldest ones are less than sixty years old.
These machines are still in their active service lifespan and all we can do is try to save what we can. But to pretend we have priority over the actual arcade owners is presumptuous.

If you know for a fact there's less than maybe 100 of a cabinet in the world you can make a case for historical preservation, but otherwise we have to be happy with the scraps.

[Anonymous No.10118925]

>>10118921
Shouldn't the arcade collector prefer having a busy local arcade over playing alone in his garage?

[Anonymous No.10118943]

>>10118924
>These machines are still in their active service lifespan and all we can do is try to save what we can.

According to the manufacturer, the active service lifespan of these old arcade machines (when they were originally released) was only for 1 year. And that was with 1990s machines. Its even worse today with modern machines. The warranty is only for 90 days now. The build quality has gotten worse.

[Anonymous No.10118949]

>>10118925
Sure. But this is a retro board. So we're specifically talking about retro arcade cabinets. Probably 2004 and earlier.

[Anonymous No.10118965]

>>10118925
Of course it depends on the person. Even back in the day, some of the more dedicated arcadefags would buy cabs, superguns+favored PCBs, or the AES, so they could play certain games at home or with friends in a quiet environment. I ultimately enjoy both experiences, but that doesn't mean that I'm happy with increased competition when a PCB I want shows up for sale, though to be fair home collectors are probably as much if not more competition for the less trendy boards.

[Anonymous No.10118969]

>>10118925
Are you implying he wouldnt play alone in an arcade? Kek.

[Anonymous No.10118971]

If arcade collectors cared about preservation, they would not have hunted English Mushiking cabs to near extinction.

[Anonymous No.10118975]

>>10118943
That's just their CYA.

[Anonymous No.10118976]

>>10118949
Then just add the word "retro" between local and arcade and apply the same statement.

[Anonymous No.10118984]

If you want to complain about arcade hoarding, maybe complain about Galloping Ghost not sharing the ROMs from their prototype arcade games.

[Anonymous No.10118989]

>>10118984
It's not in their business interest to do so.
They have backed it up so it's not going to be lost.

[Anonymous No.10118991]

>>10118984
For the last time, they can't without getting themselves blacklisted from prototype trading circles. They've already said they have the ROMs backed up in duplicate so there's no risk of them disappearing forever. The fact that they have the games on display is much better than them rotting in someone's basement.

[Anonymous No.10118995]

>>10118989
>>10118991
>it's OK when a business does it!!

[Anonymous No.10119000]

>>10118995
I don't care that they're a business. I'd rather have them continue acquiring prototypes and letting people play them in public than uploading the handful they have and losing out on getting more.

[Anonymous No.10119002]

>>10118995
Yes, it literally is. Those prototypes are a draw for customers to visit their arcade. The same arcade that hosts the largest collection of working public games in the world. They have a legitimate reason for not sharing the data.

[Anonymous No.10119006]

Kana-chan showing off her machines:
https://youtu.be/cnF88g5tduk

She's going to have a pretty serious home arcade. Probably the wealthiest Japanese collector who is willing to make public videos and content about it.

[Anonymous No.10119014]

>>10119006
>She's going to have a pretty serious home arcade
She says right in the title that she's opening a public arcade.

[Anonymous No.10119025]

>>10119006
She also has a Mario Kart arcade GP and a bunch of classic table cabinets. I would bet she will want a three-screen Darius if she can get it since she is a huge fan of that series.

[Anonymous No.10119030]

>>10118975
During the peak of the arcade era with people keeping these machines busy all day, these arcade manufacturers truly didn't expect their machines to last beyond 1 year. Some arcade engineers even called them, "Disposable Amusement machines". The only reason we have surviving machines today is because arcade businesses didn't want to buy new machines. So arcade owners extended the life of their machines by buying spare parts and doing the repairs themselves.

[Anonymous No.10119031]

>>10119014
Public to her friends. It's going to be in the basement of her new house.

[Anonymous No.10119034]

>>10119002
So do protohoarderfags, but that doesn't stop people from calling them out.

[Anonymous No.10119035]

>>10119030
okay guy

[Anonymous No.10119045]

Street Fighter 6 on a Big Blue:
https://youtu.be/WJDJhxoljmw

They didn't even bother to properly mask off the CRT for 16:9 (or track down a 16:9 CRT monitor, they exist!)

Tsk, tsk. I am tsking so heavily right now.

[Anonymous No.10119047]

>>10118975
Arcade companies viewed their arcade cabinets as just slightly more expensive vending machines. Only collectors actually care about preservation.

[Anonymous No.10119051]

>>10119045
The premise is interesting but ultimately

It just shouldnt be done in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10119053]

>>10119045
I guess I appreciate the idea, but even as a fan of CRTs, modern HD widescreen games should be placed in an HD LCD cab. Like put it in a Viewlix or Noir or whatever.

[Anonymous No.10119091]

>>10119053
It would look great in a custom cab mounting an actual 16:9 CRT.

[Anonymous No.10119102]

>>10119045
This is great.

>>10119053
>I guess I appreciate the idea, but even as a fan of CRTs, modern HD widescreen games should be placed in an HD LCD cab.
Hard disagree. This is fantastic.

[Anonymous No.10119119]

>>10119091
Custom?

[Anonymous No.10119123]

>>10102859
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There are lots of arcade games I'd love to own, this might sound stupid but I would love to own an arcade Revolution X just because it was responsible for one of the most fun times my best bud and I had.

> we are 16-17ish, bud is visiting after I moved away the year before
>hanging out, go to the crappy mall and it's tiny arcade
>repair dude is fixing Revolution X game
>repair dude is pumping all the quarters he had taken out back into it, takes him about 10 fucking minutes
>repair dude looks at us, hits the start buttons and tells us to go nuts
>we spend about the next 2-3 hours playing that stupid game on what's basically cheat mode cause we have infinite lives for all intents and purposes
>we beat the game
>have a fucking blast

[Anonymous No.10119129]

Never see blaz blue in astro city cabs in japan. Do you?

[Anonymous No.10119136]

>>10119129
That looks like another case of wrong aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.10119143]

>>10119129
I'd assume it wouldn't be nearly as common as seeing it in at the oldest something like a Blast City/Egret 3/Atomiswave. The Type X2 only foes as low as 31khz video by default, which means you'd need a scaler to display it on an Astro's stock monitor.

[Anonymous No.10119156]

>>10119123
Nice memory anon. Funny how something simple like that can leave such an impression. I remember a computer store employee selling me/my mom a WarCraft II strategy guide for a penny back in the day.

[Anonymous No.10119319]

>>10119156
This is why we need to bring gaming away from consoles and phones, and make it more of an in-person social experience again. We will never get stories like that again.

[Anonymous No.10119662]

Quick question anons. Do landromats around you still have any arcade machines in them?

[Anonymous No.10119680]

Hey I'm literally going to pick up about 6-10 driving arcade games( San Francisco rush 2049, cruising exotica, Tokyo drift etc. Says they're working but look dirty as fuck.

Also big buck hunters, a Mrs pac man, claw machine, and some other random stuff.

Any idea what this shits worth. It's an eviction sale. I'm literally on my way to rent a 26' box truck with a lift right now.

[Anonymous No.10119707]

>>10119680
This is assuming they actually WORK, turn on, and function without issues. Ask them to turn it in for you to see. If they refuse or it won't turn on, then go for the low end price.

Also Are these all sit down deluxe cockpit/sit down cabinets? Or are they upright? I'll give you prices for the cockpit/sit down version. Uprights are a little cheaper.

>San Francisco rush 2049
Great condition: $900
Poor condition: $650

>cruisin exotica,
Great condition: $675
Poor condition: $475

>Tokyo drift
Bro this is not really a retro arcade game. This came out in like 2008. It's still for sale on many websites for several thousand dollars.

>Also big buck hunters
Which one? Which year? They have Big Buck Hunter 2000 to Big Buck Hunter 2016. I need to know the exact title. The prices vary big depending on year.

>a Mrs pac man
Again. What kind? Is it original? Or the re-release (That says "class of 1981" on the cabinet). Upright cabinet? Or cocktail (table)?

>claw machine,
No idea. Not my area of expertise. I can't imagine more than a few hundred. But don't take my word for it.

>Any idea what this shits worth. It's an eviction sale. I'm literally on my way to rent a 26' box truck with a lift right now.
What's the plan? Building a home arcade?

[Anonymous No.10119870]

>>10119707

[Anonymous No.10119873]

>>10118984
>If you want to complain about arcade hoarding, maybe complain about Galloping Ghost not sharing the ROMs from their prototype arcade games.

Even *if* Galloping Ghost arcade wanted to, they can't. Those prototype arcade machines were donated/sold/loaned to Galloping Ghost under the condition that Roms never be released to the public. They signed a contract with the original owners, and so it's legally binding. GG have the roms backed up in case something happens, but they cannot be released ever. And it's not like Galloping Ghost can sneakily release them either. They are the only arcade in the entire world that has them so everyone would know right away if they did something like that.

The original owners of the prototype arcade machines were fans of people physically going out and visiting the arcade like in the old days, and wanted to encourage that by having their arcade machines stay exclusive. Not released online only to be added to some Mame rom pack. And Galloping Ghost agreed to those conditions to never release them publicly.

[Anonymous No.10119875]

>>10119870
Based. how did you find this sale and how much was the final tally?

[Anonymous No.10119881]

>>10119870
Very nice. We're you able to get all the arcade cabinets for sale?

[Anonymous No.10119886]

>>10119870
Not bad for their age, but they definitely need some TLC. The artwork needs to fixed on some of them, the rust needs to removed, and the cab seriously deep cleaned. The CRT monitors need to be tested too.

[Anonymous No.10119947]

Local nerd collect arcade cabinets and funds his hobby by opening his collection to public every weekend. He has all the games on free play and just charges for entrance.
My and my friends go there every few months, mostly to just play fighting games but we always race a few rounds in Sega rally and hydro thunder.

[Anonymous No.10120031]

>>10119031
>to her friends
And who do you think I am? Now, excuse me, I'm going to Japan and play some games in my friend's new house.

[Anonymous No.10120906]

>>10119662
>the tekken in a smash tv cabinet
Very weird

Also no

[Anonymous No.10120963]

>>10119662
Pic related was my local laundromat. I THINK the big blue was destroyed during the George Floyd riots, when they set the shoe store next door on fire (this was the Giant Wash right across the street from the Target that got raided).

[Anonymous No.10120965]

>>10102859
The local theater used to have a twin cab of Motor Raid, probably one of Sega's most obscure racing games. I liked the cyberpunk aesthetic it had and the gameplay is like Road Rash where you hit your opponents while racing for the 1st place.
The day I'll have enough money I'll but a twin cab.

[Anonymous No.10121013]

>>10119873
>They signed a contract with the original owners, and so it's legally binding. GG have the roms backed up in case something happens, but they cannot be released ever. And it's not like Galloping Ghost can sneakily release them either. They are the only arcade in the entire world that has them so everyone would know right away if they did something like that.
This. Beavis&Butthead is the last big name undumped arcade prototype that nearly everyone knows about, and there's only a few of them in existence. The hoarder community managed to grab them all. They all know each other, know who has what cab, and also know the differences between the few. So the moment a B&B arcade ROM hits the internet, they will all know exactly where it came from and that person will be blacklisted by the community. It's why ShouTime pivoted to Exa-Arcadia after Guru leaked the C2 prototype dumps ShouTime shared with the MAME devs.

>The original owners of the prototype arcade machines were fans of people physically going out and visiting the arcade like in the old days, and wanted to encourage that by having their arcade machines stay exclusive. Not released online only to be added to some Mame rom pack.
Nah, he just doesn't wanna get blacklisted by the other hoarders. If the guy actually cared about getting people into arcades, he would be trying to get more modern games exclusive to arcades to get people to go, like Raw Thrills does. No one outside of a retard thinks they can bring back arcades by letting people play a broken prototype at one location. That's like trying to turn around a failing nationwide chain with 500 locations by having only 1 location sell a different product.

[Anonymous No.10121116]

>>10119662
Nope, they all disappeared

[Anonymous No.10121176]

>>10118560
There were some actual Mazda parts attached, but most of that "car" was a lump of fiberglass.

[Anonymous No.10121213]

Someone in my town has (had?) PALLETS full of cabinets. Dude left them out in the rain and snow for YEARS, wanted $350 for Mr Do.

Kinda pissed me off all these cabinets are just sitting there rotting in rain damage

[Anonymous No.10121218]

>>10121213

[Anonymous No.10121373]

>>10121213
Why do you care lol their his. Its not your problem. Why do you even care honestly

You can play these games on your phone

[Anonymous No.10121405]

>>10121213
>>10121218
Yeah that sucks. Even if you cover the arcade cabinets with a heavy duty tent to protect it from the rain and show, the problem that remains is Temperature and moisture. It can cause rust, or moisture build up. That's why at minimum they need to be stored in a fully enclosed space like a storage shed, barn, or warehouse.

[Anonymous No.10121656]

>>10121213
>>10121218
It sucks that the owner didn't even cover the ground of the tent with a tarp or something. This allowed dirt, debris, and insects to crawl all over the cabinets.

[Anonymous No.10121826]

>>10121213
The eternal Boomer strikes again.

[Anonymous No.10121930]

>>10121213
>Someone in my town has (had?) PALLETS full of cabinets. Dude left them out in the rain and snow for YEARS, wanted $350 for Mr Do.
>Kinda pissed me off all these cabinets are just sitting there rotting in rain damage
Were the cabinets fully covered at least with that tent? $350 is a steal. Mr. Do's in great condition push $2K. Granted that doesn't look to be in great shape. Weathered and dirty, butit's not horrible looking. Did the PCB work at least?

[Anonymous No.10121942]

>>10121213
Dead thread now, but reminds me of something.
I used to work tech support for a college. Everytime they got rid of old hardware, they stuck it all on palettes that would sit outside in the weather without so much as a tarp over them for weeks, then get auctioned off. School board always complained that the only people who showed up to the auction for the used computers were scrappers looking to pull the trace amount of gold out of the PCB's who would pay barely anything for the crap. School board also refused outright to house the old hardware inside one of the many warehouses they had access to(We aren't putting JUNK inside of our warehouses!), or to even build a cover over the area where the palettes sat outdoors(Why should we spend money on TRASH?!). They also refused to allow the tech department to refurbish the machines and give them out to low-income students with no computer.
Was mostly a bunch of Core2Duo Dell's and HP's, but still a waste. Some people really can't comprehend the idea that others may find value in outdated technology.

[Anonymous No.10122032]

>>10121942
>School board always complained that the only people who showed up to the auction for the used computers were scrappers looking to pull the trace amount of gold out of the PCB's who would pay barely anything for the crap.

I don't understand. Did you explain to them that leaving it outside in the open exposed to the elements will ruin it? And that's why no one wants to buy it? If so, then how could they complain? Are they so entitled that they magically expect people to show up and buy rained on ruin electronics for full price?

Side note:
Did you really need permission from the school board itself just to put some items in storage? Surely there must be so low level manager somewhere with the authority to let things be put in storage warehouses.

[Anonymous No.10122186]

>>10121942
>scrappers looking to pull the trace amount of gold out of the PCB's who would pay barely anything for the crap.
Ran into one of these idiots recently.
Hopefully he listened to me when I told him the intact hardware is worth a lot more than the gold.

[Anonymous No.10122326]

>>10122032
Not only me, but dozens of employees prior to me explained it to them. Their logic was "Only scrappers show up to the auctions, so it's pointless to spend money or use warehouse space on items that sell for barely anything." Even the fucking head of the tech dept tried to explain it to them, they still insisted that there was no point since "only scrappers show up". You haven't seen circular logic until you've had to deal with entrenched bureaucrats.
Best way I can describe it to you is the "It has what plants crave" scene from Idiocracy. Replace the line "But it has what plants crave!" with "But only scrappers show up at the auctions!", and replace Luke Wilson with me or my coworkers attempting to explain that they could get OTHER people to show up by preserving the value of the hardware instead of letting it rot in the rain. Oddly enough, telling them that scrappers HATE well preserved hardware didn't work.
And not being allowed to store "junk" inside the warehouse was a regulation set by the board. Discarded equipment was classified as junk as per the board.

[Anonymous No.10122782]

>>10119870
>>10119707
>>10119875
>>10119886
So I got a ton of shit, for $500. I loaded the ENTIRE 26" truck full.
-3 San Francisco rush machines. One boots, the force feedback wheel runs it's calibration test, but the screen then distorts and turns green. Another one powers up but then boot loops. The third is unknown because the PSU is missing and the back is locked up so I'll have to drill it out.
-Crusing exotica, the cord for the PSU is unplugged inside the cabinet and can't be accessed until I again drill out the lock.
- two Tokyo drifts. One powers up but screen won't, the other says no signal.
- two working Mrs pac man upright machines, think they are re releases.
-one red upright multicade with a ton of games like rampage and galaxian etc. Untested.
- original cocktail Mrs pac man, won't power on, smells like burning electronics
- a perfect looking Mrs pacman upright completely gutted of parts
- a 1970s valley bar pool table missing slate and legs, has all other hardware and bumpers, pool balls, racks, and a case of like 50 sticks.
- a decent bar foosball table.

Dude just wanted it gone as he was already evicted and I was the only buyer

[Anonymous No.10122792]

>>10122782
Plan is to put some of this shit in my semi finished basement as a game room. Pac man, multicade, pool table, and then slap a ping pong table on top, fooseball, and two driving games, hopefully the San Fran rushes. The rest I'm gonna have to find buyers for. Or I'm gonna smash them up with my tractor and burn the cans and maybe sell the parts, like the boards and stuff

[Anonymous No.10122797]

>>10122792
Oh and I got 3 big bucks, ones original, ones a safari, and the other is a little newer. The have all the guns ( and extra guns) but the computer towers were removed from the cabs so untested as of now. Looks to be all there though. Would be neat to have a shotgun light game and sell the others.

[Anonymous No.10122806]

>>10122326
Those people only see numbers. Everything, no matter how complex, is just reduced to numbers: "If I sell for X, then I can't spend more than Y". If it's not their line of work, but only a second-hand selling, they won't care. Even if they understand that, by spending 2Y, they could make 4X, it's still "too much" distraction and operations for something that is not even their main activity.

Whenever I face a similar situation, I advise them once, just once, calmly and clearly. Whatever future complaints are on their fault. But, to be honest, I've yet to see a complaint. They seem satisfied as things are.

[Anonymous No.10122843]

>>10122782
>>10122797
Thanks for the update. Nice find. $500 for everything? You probably saved....thousands of dollars. You got extremely lucky. Especially for the Tokyo drifts and Ms. Pac Man's.

From what I'm reading it sounds like they all need some real tender love and care to be restored to full working order but it sounds like you can do it.

>>10122792
>The rest I'm gonna have to find buyers for. Or I'm gonna smash them up with my tractor and burn the cans and maybe sell the parts, like the boards and stuff
........Can you please not do that anon. I'm sure you can find a buyer if you actually price them to sell fast.

[Anonymous No.10123002]

>>10121213
they are broken.

[Anonymous No.10123172]

>>10122843
>Can you please not do that anon. I'm sure you can find a buyer if you actually price them to sell fast.

Lol I'm really not trying to, I'd much prefer someone to come take em away. And I'm mostly referring to shit like the big bucks. If I can rob one to fix the other, and I'm left with an empty cab, that sucker is trash as far as I can tell.
The empty pac man cab for example, I plan to take the all the guts out of one of the other working pac man's and put them in the nice cab, and then maybe sell the other now empty cab. I've got a small retro game store that is interested in some games like this, so maybe they would even want the bare cab to put a multicade conversion kit in or something.

I'm just a busy motherfucker, job, kids etc, and I have now pretty much maxed out my storage capacity between old cars, motorcycles and now arcade games. I'm a bit of a hoarder according to others.