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>Japan
>Majora's Mask cartridge, box and manual in great condition
>$12

>US of A
>Majora's Mask cartridge with cracked edges
>$80

Is it time to learn Japanese?

>> No.10080240

ppl overseas have been infected with the pop figure virus where they overprice pieces of plastic for the brainlets that don't reside in JapLand

>> No.10080245
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May I propose a solution

>> No.10080253
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>>10080218
>Is it time to learn Japanese?
It's always a good time to learn Japanese.
It's just like that old proverb from Japan.... "the best time to buy a geneticarry engineeled catgilr was 20 yeals ago, the second best time to buy a geneticarry engineeled catgilr is today"
Jokes aside, you can reach a level where you can decently play most games (although you might need a guide while you wouldn't need one if playing in English) in Japanese in just a few months. You can check the DJT threads on /int/ and /jp/.

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The best version

>> No.10080361

>>10080282
>all sorts of Japanese guide books and manuals that will never be scanned unless a w*sterner gets their hands on a copy and does it
>have to import physical copies of them
>IF you can fucking find them for sale online
I wish the Japs had the same sense for preservation of this sort of thing as we do. It's fun to pore over old pokemon guides like the kind you'd bring to school to show your friends, and I want to see the ones that Japs would have been doing the same thing with too.

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>>10080245
may I propose a supplement

>> No.10080380 [DELETED] 

>>10000000

>> No.10080382

>>10080218
>Is it time to learn Japanese?
いいえ。エミュレーションの時だ。

>> No.10080383

>>10080218
>paying for japslop
>ever
PAL is where it's at.

>>10080361
Japs are cucked to the extreme, they literally made selling console mods or modded consoles illegal a few years ago.

>> No.10080389

>>10080245
yep im thinking this is the only real way to afford playing n64 games in 2020+3

>> No.10080394

>>10080218
The japanese version of majora doesn't have owl saving

>> No.10080410

>>10080383
PAL N64 games are perma cucked and don't run at full speed on NTSC consoles, literally worthless. I know PAL Mega Drive games are usually good besides the few that have region lockout fuckery

>> No.10080418

>>10080361
No, they scan them. I've been collecting them off Japanese sites for the past few months. I have several hundred gigs so far. Mostly zipped JPEGs, but also some PDFs.
Not sure if I have a Japanese guide for MM, but I did download a SM64 guide the other day. Which I only did out of hoarding instinct because I don't even like SM64.
The really interesting thing (to me) is I have some books which are like "guide to old computer adventure games" which contain screenshots and story overviews of old 8-bit computer games I've never even heard of before. The games honestly look terrible, but these books were published around 2000 so evidently someone in Japan cares about these old games.

>> No.10080419

>>10080394
it's shit anyway, you get a third save slot instead

>> No.10080517

>>10080245
This.

>> No.10080524

>>10080361
The great Japanese are retards who know next to nothing about tech.
Its why they all sit around playing mobile games on their iphones like 50 year old women.

>> No.10080672

>>10080361
Why would you care when people just resell what they dont use anymore for pennies AND its literally in mint condition most of the times.
They can just go pick up whatever because its like $1 for a guide + $5 for the game in the box with the manual instead of LE RETRO SUPER RARE $800 NO LOWBALLS we've got here.

>> No.10081010

>>10080389
Just emulate
>muh accuracy
Way overblown. For practical gaming the state of N64 emulation is excellent.

>> No.10081021

>>10080218
It's time for you to get an Everdrive.

>> No.10081041

>is it time to learn Japanese
Do it, I don't really give a shit about your argument, just learn the language. It's a beautiful language, a beautiful culture, beautiful people and beautiful country. You'll get to enjoy raw Japanese vidya and anime raw as well if you're into that.
Learn Hiragana first, then katakana, and then some vocabulary and play something like an old Famicom game, maybe a kid's SFC game (JP Mario RPG has Hiragana and Katakana) to put skills to use, and learn Kanji.

>> No.10081115

>>10081010
NTA but theres nothing wrong with bootin up the ole everdrive on a real N64.
You aren't buying into the "retro market" scam since consoles are dirt cheap.
I personally don't do it, but I can respect someone who does for the sole fact they are opting out of the secondary market.

>> No.10081382

>>10080218
It's time to emulate and stop investing in plastic.

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>>10081010
>For practical gaming the state of N64 emulation is excellent

>> No.10081568

>>10081395
shut up retard

>> No.10081613

>>10081041
The Japanese who leave Japan and travel a bit are fucking brilliant. I still speak to a Jap guy I met years ago, and when I met some in a forest in nowhere new Zealand they invited me to meditate with them. Very nice people. Only heard bad things about Japs who never leave tho.

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>>10080218
As a fan of old JRPGs, absolutely
I don't like a lot of the older localizations and Japanese versions are almost always dirt cheap compared to what international versions go for
And you got a lot of other older RPGs that never came to the states that are even cheaper

>> No.10083624

>>10080389
N64 is probably the cheapest Nintendo home console to get games for.

>> No.10083642

>>10080218
>>Japan
>>Majora's Mask cartridge, box and manual in great condition
Because they had a hard plastic cart holder along with slightly sturdier cardboard. I didn't have as much trouble keeping my Japanese N64 boxes compared to the NA ones which are garbage. Thank God for CDs so we could FINALLY move away from cardboard.

>> No.10083823

>>10080361
Counterpoint: everything worth preserving is already well-preserved online and/or available for physical purchase in large quantities.

>> No.10083891

>>10083601
I'm a horror fan myself.
There are a large number of horror games that were never localised, so learning Japanese really comes in for that genre too.

Can't say all of them have been cheap though...
Rule of Rose is still $100 for a Japanese copy and that wasn't one of the more expensive ones.

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>>10080245
>power goes out
>4 hours of progress loss because you didn't hit the reset button

>> No.10083962

>>10083894
Wouldn't it just save the data in real time like a normal cart?

>> No.10083975

>>10083962
Nope. I own one of those. You need to reset the console in order to save your games. I'm technologically illiterate as to the real reason why, but I want to say that resetting the console makes the cartridge flush the data currently flashed to it to the SD card.

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>>10083962
With the cheaper carts like that chink clone, you need to reset the console so the save data is actually written to the SD card. If the power goes out the save data that was in the RAM is lost. The Everdrive 64 X7 saves without having to reset but it's also $200 USD

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>>10083985
>but it's also $200 USD
Thats like the price of conkers bad fur day + goemons great adventure. So seems worth if you want to play on real hardware.

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>>10085090
People that play retro games are mega stingy. If it isn't 1.99 to them then they think it's a rip off. They're always looking for an excuse to complain rather than play video games.
>It's too expensive
Emulate
>But I want pure accuracy
Flash cart or mod the console with a HDD/burned games
>That's too pricey
Still cheaper than buying the actual games
>But I want to have the actual games but cheaper
Then get a time machine.

Not only that but such people only have surface level interest in a console and go for the expensive cult classics, the expensive RPGs/Survival Horror, or the well known games. You can pick up Forsaken 64 for ten bucks, same with Chopper Attack. People have to branch out more.

>> No.10087005

>>10080218
You're paying for the GOLD

>> No.10087678

>>10081041
Using vidya to learn Japanese is really ineffecient. Read LNs or VNs instead.

>> No.10087689

>>10080240
Japs have figurine autism instead of game autism. Don't pretend they aren't just as retarded.

>> No.10087692

>>10083894
Those of us that don't live in third world countries don't have to worry about power outages.

>> No.10088416

I'm going to Japan soon and one of my objectives is to find a GBA Micro. Damn things are worth gold in the west. I only want one for myself, don't even need a special edition.

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>>10087678
I say do all three in addition to anything and everything else.
I do think visual novels are the most efficient, but different things will work better or worse for different people. More importantly, exposing yourself to lots of different forms of Japanese will challenge you in different ways, which is important for your growth.
And playing a game in Japanese can be great practice. The game itself is Japanese, when you have trouble you look up a guide in Japanese, then after you finish it you read sexy doujins about it in Japanese. Top shelf shit right there.

>> No.10088741

>>10080240
Sounds like they've been infected by common sense and business savvy. I'd make the gaijin pay, too.

>> No.10088747

Just get a flash cart or emulate, it's not rocket science.

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>>10088416
good luck anon and i hope you find a good condition pic related for cheap

>> No.10089978

>>10089386
I actually don't really like that one. I'd prefer an all black one. I'll do the makho battery mod like I did to my SP.

>> No.10090020

>>10080218
It's been like this for decades, zoom man. Back in 2004 Suikoden 2 PAL cost me 120 € while the JP version was junk you could get for a handful of pennies. It's not time to learn japanese it's time to learn how to use an emulator.

>> No.10090440

Are there any games or systems where this situation is reversed? Like, are there any games that, although they got a world wide release, the Japanese import the foreign version because it's cheaper, or more common, or because it has some other desirable trait?

>> No.10090481

>>10090440
Japs don’t really collect video games. They don’t have the space for it. They’d rather have a handheld with digital games.

>> No.10091038

>>10080245
why would i pay hundreds of dollars to pirate?

>> No.10092810

>>10089978
good luck in everything you want to do anon

>> No.10092826

>>10080253
>the best time to buy a geneticarry engineeled catgilr was 20 yeals ago, the second best time to buy a geneticarry engineeled catgilr is today
that Art of War quote inspired most of my 2010s

>> No.10092952

>>10080218
>Is it time to learn Japanese?
Its time to learn to emulate and lose whatever retarded morality excuses you have.

>> No.10093229

I dunno I still have my copy I got back when the game released. CIB and all.
I remember when my PC-centric friend, who would often berite console games (until he emulated OOT and was blown away) commented "huh, now I know why people like to own original stuff" when he saw my golden/holo Majora cart.

>> No.10094681

>>10093229
Your friend is either retarded or trying to placate you to get you to shut up.

>yes anon, that piece of plastic definitely looks good on that shelf

A piece of plastic isn't worth owning, what's on it is, and anyone can have that for free on a harddrive.

>> No.10096114

>>10080218
It's because PAL and NTSC-J copies have low demand. Even though UAE copies are NTSC-U they also have low demand compared to NTSC-U copies because of the PAL ribbon on the spine on some generations, the slip in paper, and the mark on the back denoting it as a UAE version.
It simply isn't wanted outside of its home region because of the boxart, it not being the home region's version, potential region incompatibilities depending on the generation, censored content, or PAL genuinely being worse than NTSC-U and J until what, gen 6?

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>>10080218
I think someone mentioned the USA version has a mixture for the plastic that causes those swirl patterns which also makes the plastic more brittle. So it is more difficult to maintain than the Japanese version that used the normal mixture for its plastic composition.

>> No.10096260

>>10094681
He was rather smart (if a bit autistic I guess, but he ended up getting married and all).
>trying to placate you to get you to shut up.
I remember he grabbed the game off my shelf by his own will, I wasn't even talking about it (Majora's Mask was already old news to me at that point). It just grabbed his attention because he was into Zelda after emulating OoT and loving it.
Seethe and cope more, projector.

>> No.10096396

>>10090440
There are a lot of limited JP Mega Drive releases, like Maximum Carnage.

>> No.10096964

>>10081010
I wouldn't say excellent. Some games can still chug a bit or have micro-stutters. Maybe it's just my PC? I use Angrylion+Parallel. I have a flashcart as well, so I'm not too concerned.

>> No.10097015

>>10080218
>$80
that's how much is costed when it came out in my country

>> No.10099027

>>10096139
>which also makes the plastic more brittle
I think gold plastic in general is considered brittle, especially the ones made in the 90's