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these GBA NES ports suck balls. The Super Mario Bros. physics are off and the fonts on all the games are wrong. Thank God I'm emulating and didn't actually spend money to play this shit.

>> No.10072403

>>10072385
they are a product of their time
there is some hidden 2P functionality and easter eggs though

they added some stuff so technically its not a 1:1 of the original games

the lcd on the sp is shittier\laggier than a 60hz crt so im not sure what you are expecting anon
its not going to be a magic EXACT replica
its literally impossible

>> No.10072534

>>10072385
This is how I first beat Zelda 1 and 2 despite growing up with an NES

>> No.10072545

>>10072534
You grew up with an Nintendo?
Or did you grow up with a Nintendo?

>> No.10072546

these were the biggest scam nintendo ever pulled
Like for example zero mission had the original metroid just thrown in as a bonus years before these came out

>> No.10072570
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>>10072385
>bad physics
>wrong fonts

That's it? You know nothing about bad ports.

>> No.10072576

>>10072570
The 32X remake v2 is better but that took 20+ years. I’m amazed at what good programming and enough time can fix.

>> No.10073015

>>10072545
shut the fuck up dork

>> No.10073073

>>10072570
When they're a special collector's item I expect them to be playable, yes.

>> No.10073079

>>10073073
Anon they’re emulators. Nintendo ripped off an existing open source NES emulator on GBA and put these together. They aren’t ports.

>> No.10073090

>>10073079
>>>/reddit/

>> No.10073091

>>10073090
You can rip the rom and see the ines header yourself. They’re emulators.

>> No.10073431

>>10072385
I actually played Metroid for the first time on this and I liked it a lot :)

>> No.10073434

>>10073090
>he posted something technically correct!
>I’ll need to tell him to go to Reddit! I can only deal with false info!

>> No.10073448
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What I find the most hilarious about these is how Nintendo apparently utterly loaded these with DRM, most of which I am pretty sure was meant to trip-up emulators rather than flashcarts.

For some reason out of all their GBA games, they decided to protect a bunch of NES ROMS on a GBA cart from... running in emulators... when people by that point had been able to emulate NES games for years.

Who the hell was going to use a GBA emulator to run a GBA emulator for NES (and one that was specifically coded with tricks for the GBA screen and looks like ass on a normal screen or TV) instead of just emulating the NES game itself? At least if the DRM also tripped flashcarts or was designed primarily for that there might be a LITTLE bit of sense in that there was no cheap or reasonable way to have portable NES games back then, at least, not as portable as a GBA. Still does not compare to actual GBA games though if you ask me.

To think this DRM wasn't used on the actual GBA games either.

https://mgba.io//2014/12/28/classic-nes/

Nintendo always massively over-valued their old games. Most people probably don't remember that when NSO was first announced, Nintendo was going to offer a SINGLE NES game.... that rotates out every month. They felt that giving you the honor of playing a single NES game for 30 days before it's replaced with a different one was on par with the free modern games others were giving you. Notice that they almost never release collections that just about everyone else has done, and in the very rare times they do they take a Disney Vault approach where it's only available as a limited edition for a short time, like that recent Mario 3D collection.

>> No.10073463

>>10073448
Between this and not being able to tape GBA Spongebob on Game Boy Player, the era sure was tough for pirates

>> No.10073484

>>10073448
>most of which I am pretty sure was meant to trip-up emulators rather than flashcarts
I disagree, the EEPROM/SRAM thing would definitely trip up a flashcart but would not affect emulators with a save type database (only those which try to autodetect save type)

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>>10073484
That's just one out of six tricks though, I did say most.

Also that's not a new thing, it was a very common tactic back then to do as a cheap and quick piracy check.. back during cartridge copiers before emulation was even much of a thing. I recall how Puggsy on Sega Genesis STILL trips most emulators to this day with that trick.

>> No.10073521

>>10073518
Yeah the rest of the tricks are for emulators. Those wouldn't affect flashcarts.
>Also that's not a new thing, it was a very common tactic back then to do as a cheap and quick piracy check
It's implemented slightly differently on GBA because of the different selection of save chips but it was kinda common. Dragon Ball Z Buu's Fury and maybe other Dragon Ball games have similar checks to the Classic NES games.

>> No.10073574

>>10073448
>(and one that was specifically coded with tricks for the GBA screen and looks like ass on a normal screen or TV)
What did they do differently? I had the NES edition GBA SP and it was great (the design around the buttons is a grippy, thick decal, not just a sticker- my friend's smooth SPs felt weird in comparison afterwards) but had none of the actual NES game ports.

>> No.10073586
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>>10073574
The GBA's screen had a lower resolution than the NES, so they rapidly shifted the image up/down in a way to sort of fake the screen having a higher resolution than it really did. On the GBA's actual screen, this worked. I would assume that on a CRT over composite like through the GBA player this probably just looked blurry. On a modern screen though with modern high-res outputs or an emulator, it just looks like it's violently shaking.

>> No.10073590

>>10073586
PocketNES supported this too.

>> No.10073953

These would have been better on the GBC.

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>>10073953
Ummm....

(Also, it was bad due to the screen crunch being even worse)

>> No.10073982

>>10072546
Hell, a couple of them were even playable through Animal Crossing on gamecube.
https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/NES_Games

>> No.10073983

>>10072385
Play NES games on a NES. Dumbass

>> No.10073990

>>10072545
an En Ee Ess.
seethe

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>>10072385
>Japan got these as budget titles
>Americans had to pay full price for each
Dammit Nintendo.

>> No.10074019

>>10073993
They were like $20 before tax.

>> No.10074024

>>10073590
The games use Pocketnes

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>>10072545
>>10073990
Nintendo is Regular Nintendo. Super Nintendo is just The Super.

>> No.10074062

The NES games were always marketed as cheap novelty releases since they were $20 and new games were $30. Only those with nostalgia got them as $10 more got you a modern game with tons more gameplay on GBA. Many like Pac-Man already had better releases on the GBA for cheap and the NES games had nothing..it was going for a niche.
So yes, even going in on them in 2003 or whenever was already only for collectors and people weren't as autistic about a NES port/emulation back then, the understood it'd be a bit different since it's on the GBA.
Getting them in 2023 is even more for collectors as you can play the real versions in better formats.

>> No.10074064

>>10073993
>full price
I'm pretty sure they were $20 each, when most other GBA games were $30.

>> No.10074065

>>10072545
>ESL not knowing about vowel sounds in English
Many such cases.

>> No.10074103

>>10073434
>>10073091
I assume their (shitty) reponse is based on the fact Nintendo hired the iNES guy to do this stuff, rather than "ripping off" like the original poster claim.

>> No.10074717

>>10072545
holy embarrrassing