/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10058152]

>implying you need more
These emulators may no longer be the best according to autismos, but they Just Werk™.

[Anonymous No.10058164]

>only direct downloads .exe versions of video game files

[Anonymous No.10058232]

I had all those back in the day but I used Connectix Virtual Game Station since it was lag free and didn't do any improvements graphics wise.
ePSXe is a lag fest, it's impossible to do combos in THPS and Tekken.

[Anonymous No.10058252]

I used to be like you but recently I found retroarch has come a long way. It "just werks" too and its cores are vastly superior in every way, so why settle, when you can play with more accurate emulation and less input lag?

[Anonymous No.10058258]

>>10058152
I made a romhack that crashes on one of those emulators. It was funny to see dozens of people shitting on me and not a single one even thinking that their outdated shitty emulator could be responsible

[Anonymous No.10058329]

>>10058258
ZSNES hater mentality.

[Anonymous No.10058337]

I use mGBA and Duckstation

[Anonymous No.10058338]

>mame
>working

[Anonymous No.10058342]

>>10058152
I'm sticking with P64Legacy team.
I've also switched from ePSX to Duckstation this year after it dead away refused display menu in Grid Runner.
That made me think just how much more undisplayed textures I might've missed and I've made the switch.

[Anonymous No.10058413]

>>10058342
>I'm sticking with P64Legacy team
The what now?

[Anonymous No.10058418]

Reminder: "cycle accuracy" only matters to (((speed runners))), and Janny will ban you if you point this out (just watch, this post will be baleted as "trolling" or "off topic")

[Anonymous No.10058427]

>>10058152
chankast and project 64 do not "just work"

[Anonymous No.10058428]

>>10058152
It's cute that you only care about the few dozen most plebian games that have speedhacks and hotfixes enough to run on those emulators.

[Anonymous No.10058442]

>visualboy
based

[Anonymous No.10058451]

>>10058252
Retroarch is greate but for PS1, Dreamcast and N64, the standalone works better.

Mapping N64 controls in Retroarch is a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.10058546]

>>10058152
Which is the fastest at mapping buttons?

[Anonymous No.10058663]

>>10058152
You don't need to update your emulators, but you should at least update your bliss.

[Anonymous No.10058713]

>when you have no emulators and only play console ports of old PC games

[Anonymous No.10058753]

>>10058152
Let me guess... You need less?

[Anonymous No.10058764]

>>10058753
Why have both bsnes and ares? The latter basically contains bsnes, does it not?

[Anonymous No.10058775]

>>10058764
I downloaded ares later for N64 emulation since as far as I know it's the only non-retroarch emulator that has both ParaLLEl and dynamic rate control which eliminates audio pops and skips

[Anonymous No.10058904]

>>10058152
where did you get this screenshot of my desktop from 2009

[Anonymous No.10058915]

>>10058152
>>10058753
I haven't used PJ64 or VisualBoy Advance since like the 2000's. Same with bsnes.

The thought of using Windows for emulation nowadays is hilarious to me though. Literally just download RetroArch on your TV box lol

[Anonymous No.10058929]

>>10058152
Some in pic rel aren't retro.
Too damn lazy to move the icons.

[Anonymous No.10058964]

>>10058152
good old days downloading hentai porn gallery gba roms and leveling up my mommy blaziken in pokemon emerald using double kick to the face to every motherfucker standing in my way
>>>/wsg/5179526

[Anonymous No.10058965]

>>10058164
>not playing games exclusively through web emulators

[Anonymous No.10059040]

>>10058338
MAMEUI32 was based as fuck and actually let me play Street Fighter III back when MAME was finally capable of playing it with minimal issues or setup. I wonder, then, why the current MAME team seethes so much about it, almost as much as they seethe about RetroArch.

[Anonymous No.10059061]

>>10058337
Recently played through Master of Arena on Duckstation, definitely was a great run

[Batowl No.10059085]

>>10058152
I don't use shitty zsnes anymore since years.

[Anonymous No.10059094]

>>10059085
why is it shitty? and which is the better alternative anon?

[Anonymous No.10059115]

>>10059094
>Compatibility is lower than modern emulators due to low accuracy to real SNES system.
>Games crashing: Der Langrisser (freezes after 2–3 hours), Super Mario RPG (freezes in many different points of the game), Star Ocean and many other games have freezing and crashing issues.
>Bad sound emulation: Many games sound inaccurate on ZSNES. ZSNES's audio timer isn't floating point so there are timing artifacts in the music. ZSNES doesn't emulate release values of ADSR so held notes will sound poor.
>Many of the co-processors, which are actually on the game cartridges, are emulated in strange ways. For example, Super FX is not clocked correctly; Star Fox runs twice as fast as it should.
>Transparency: Kirby Dreamland 3, Mecarobot Golf, Jurassic Park and other games that use pseudo-hi-res translucency won't display correctly in the default graphics engine in v1.51. To get them to display properly in v1.51, one must press 8 to switch to the old graphics engine.
>x86 code exploits: With specially made hacks and homebrew ROMs, it is possible for them to break out of ZSNES itself and execute native code on the host computer.
>While older versions of ZSNES still have one of the better netplay systems among emulators, netplay was removed in v1.50.
>SA-1 isn't emulated correctly, so Kirby Super Star can sometimes spawn different sprites than the supposed one.

Use Snes9x or bsnes

[Anonymous No.10059126]

>>10059115
Oh and if you're gonna use Snes9x, don't grab it from the first link on Google since it's an ancient version, download it from it's github:
https://github.com/snes9xgit/snes9x/releases

[Anonymous No.10059128]

>>10059115
>Kirby Super Star can sometimes spawn different sprites than the supposed one.
oohh I think I saw that one time playing kirbo
>>10059126
thanks fren, much appreciated

[Anonymous No.10059132]

>>10059128
Example of the transparency not being emulated in Kirby's Dreamland 3

[Anonymous No.10059138]

>>10059132
yeah I saw that too, and that would explain (I think?) why combo's stage in killer instinct never loaded the background correctly for some reason

It's a shame beacuse the UI of znes is nostalgic and I've always liked it

[Anonymous No.10059215]

>>10058753
>Bizhawk
>Icon's a Hawk in a business suit

[Anonymous No.10059219]

>>10059215
It's strange. BizHawk's been around for ages now, but it's only now getting some recognition as a general use emulator outside of TASing. I wonder if it's because it's become something of an alternative thrown around by people who got filtered by RetroArch?

[Dave No.10059240]

I still use KegaFusion and VisualBoy ... They are alright.
Duckstation is a must.

I despise retroarch because the controls mapping shit.

[Dave No.10059245]

>>10058915
I don't use TV boxes... I have DUNE HD

[Anonymous No.10059256]

>>10059115
you'd think getting the mario world spin jump not to sound like garbage would be enough of a reason not to use zsnes

[Anonymous No.10059291]

>>10058164
>shit dial up Internet
>use Limewire so I can pause downloads
>search for Super Mario World
>Download Super Mario World.exe
>open the exe
>nothing
>try 4 more times
>nothing
>restart
>IE is locked in a Viagra ad and I can't access the Internet
>dad needs to call a friend to fix the PC.

[Anonymous No.10059304]

>>10059291
did you get the viagra anon?

[Anonymous No.10059612]

>>10058152
Replace ePSXe with pSX and Kega Fusion with Genecyst.

[Anonymous No.10059646]

>>10058451
>Mapping N64 controls in Retroarch is a nightmare
You have to do it once, ever. I haven't touched any of my controller maps in at least five years and they all continue to just work.

[Anonymous No.10059653]

>>10059646
lemuroid maps them automatically tho

[Anonymous No.10059659]

>>10059653
Pass.

[Anonymous No.10059667]

>Nesticle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGkZf6n_VXM

Soul

[Anonymous No.10060776]

>>10058152
You do, but I'm gonna engage as if it's '01 and we're using a Pentium 4:
>nesticle in the XP era
Could have at least posted Nestopia or FCEUX. There are better DOS emulators than Nesticle.
>chankast
it was neat but far too preliminary, most games had sorting issues out the ass and many just didn't work.
The others are at least okay.

[Anonymous No.10060784]

>>10059667
To be fair, it was a lot better by the end of its life, but others just smoked it as far as mappers, sound chips, and edge case games go.

[Anonymous No.10061058]

Any reason not to use Retroarch cores for a bunch of these consoles?

[Anonymous No.10061250]

>>10058663
heh...

[Anonymous No.10061267]

dude lol the bottom left is a nutsack

[Anonymous No.10061302]

VBA outright refuses to run Pokemon Mystery Dungeon at a decent framerate. I've tried it across several systems. It never seems to work.
Most modern romhacks also are made for mGBA. But I guess Gheb Emblem is all you really need.

[Anonymous No.10061325]

>>10061058
Only questionable one would be the MAME core, since MAME has its own interface and it sometimes conflicts with RetroArch's, and it can be a mess. For this reason, many people recommend the FBNeo core for the systems it supports instead. Everything else has great core support. It's really only once you get to systems newer than the Dreamcast and GBA that shit gets dicey.

[Anonymous No.10061365]

>>10058252
Retroarch completely fucks my saves and makes setting up controllers a pain in the ass, not to mention the schizophrenic reddit tier UI.
Follow the unix philosophy, do one thing and do it well. If you need to do something else make a different program.

[Anonymous No.10061367]

>>10061267
apparently

[Anonymous No.10061379]

>>10061325

Yeah, anything above DC, I used the standalones.

[Anonymous No.10061393]

>>10058152
Duckstation wipes the floor with ePSXe. What the actual fuck are you smoking?
>running windows xp
Oh you're retarded, my apologies to your carer.

[Anonymous No.10061409]

>>10059612
>the pSX kid appears, without fail
this memulator sucked even then. Copy protected games didn't load, and vsync introduced a humongous amount of input lag.
>Genecyst
Kgen blew this out in the 90s, but if you have nesticle ya gotta have this, right? Callus too.

[Anonymous No.10061419]

>>10061365
>schizophrenic reddit tier
buzzword buzzword buzzword do I fit in fellow chinners?
Here's a buzzword for you: filtered.

[Anonymous No.10061431]

>>10061393
What operating system do you suggest for running obsolete console games? 7? 10? 11? Linux? Android?

[Anonymous No.10061441]

>>10058152
>epsxe
That one won't be missed. All those plugins configurations was a pain in the ass and most of them never worked properly.

Duckstation was a blessing from the heavens.

[Anonymous No.10061446]

>>10061419
If you want a plain English version of what the other anon said, then how about this? The Retroarch UI is a bloated mess. There are far too many options that don't need to be displayed on first boot that could be hidden behind an advanced features checkbox. Both the nightly versions of Duckstation and PCSX2 have a clean UI with all the important shit at the very top of each menu, meanwhile Retroarch has everything cluttered together, regardless of importance.

[Anonymous No.10061459]

>>10061419
If you want a plain English version of what the other anon said, then how about this? The Retroarch UI is a bloated mess. There are far too many options that don't need to be displayed on first boot that could be hidden behind an advanced features checkbox. Both the nightly versions of Duckstation and PCSX2 have a clean UI with all the important shit at the very top of each menu.
>>10061431
Batocera, it doesn't even have to be installed on your system, you can carry it around on a USB stick or an external SSD with all your roms.

[Anonymous No.10061495]

>>10058152
Nesticle, ZSNES, and VBA were my childhood, in that order. Not sure why you'd ever need anything else.

>no severed arm cursor
>no snow during emulator pause
>no thanks

[Anonymous No.10061704]

>>10059215
That's an eagle, anon.

[Anonymous No.10061712]

>>10061704
It's still funny shut up!

[Anonymous No.10061723]

>>10059040
MAME devs are mad as fuck that the FinalBurn Neo devs made more progress in a couple of months than they did in over 25 years. MAME is completely obsolete now.

[Anonymous No.10061745]

>>10061495
>Not sure why you'd ever need anything else
As stated above >>10059115 >>10059132 , multiple games not running correctly. Not obscure shit either, but games like Kirby Dreamland 3, Kirby Superstar, SMRPG, Star Fox. There's also the sound being badly emulated as stated by >>10059256

[Anonymous No.10061752]

>>10061723
Gee, who'd have thunk focusing your emulator on actually playing games and making it relatively easy to use would attract more users AND more developer talent to the table?

[Anonymous No.10061753]

>>10061704
>>10061712
Hawks and eagles both belong to the family Accipitridae, and there's a bird called a Black-and-White Hawk-Eagle. So you're both right. Yes really, picrel.

[Anonymous No.10061776]

>>10061753
That's a hawk-eagle, neither a hawk nor an eagle. It isn't called BizEagle or BizHawk-Eagle. They may be in the same family, but that isn't saying much -- wolves and foxes are in the same family but we don't treat them as interchangeable.

[Anonymous No.10062276]

>>10058753
Never heard about that ARES. I'll give a chance.

[Anonymous No.10062351]

>>10061776
see >>10061712

[Anonymous No.10062513]

>>10059215
>>10061704
>>10061712
>>10061753
>>10061776
>>10062351
It's a hawk emulating a business eagle

[Anonymous No.10062519]

ZSNES's GUI is garbage and obviously not as easy to read as a normal Windows interface. That piece of shit was eclipsed in its own heyday by SNES9X

[Anonymous No.10062530]

>>10058418
I still want to see those pics of Byuu's OC getting assraped by Neko Ed that most definetely exist, furtroons are all the same NO EXCEPTIONS

[Anonymous No.10063041]

>>10062519
But muh snow effects!

[Anonymous No.10063268]

>>10062276
Meh, for N64 it's shit, but is better to find Snes roms on that then with the Bsnes interface.

[Anonymous No.10063289]

>>10063268
I'd say it's closer to OK for N64, but unfortunately it does have major issues with a handful of popular games, including DK64. Given time, it probably will become the bsnes of N64 emulation, but it's not there yet. It's still impressively usable and compatible given its short lifespan and the fact it's (mostly) an all-original core.

[Anonymous No.10063307]

>>10058152
>chankast
step up, nigga

[Anonymous No.10063310]

>>10058232
There was this jap emulator just called PSX that only did native res and didn't even need a BIOS, was p. good.

[Anonymous No.10063338]

>>10063289
Yeah, I make some more few tests and runs NES and Genesis pretty well. For PC engine CD I still prefer the beetle libreto core and for N64, RMG.

RMG

[Anonymous No.10063418]

>>10059646
Retroarch needs a better gui to mess with controller setups. RMG dev hit the spot with this plugin, so that's why I changed to it. Simple and functional.

[Anonymous No.10063446]

>>10058258
listen faggot you better fix your fucking mario 64 sex mod so it works on my alpha build of ultrahle. I need to see marios cock.

[Anonymous No.10063451]

>>10063418
It can't get one because of how input mapping works in the libretro API. It works through what's known as the RetroPad abstraction, where instead of mapping inputs directly to buttons on your controller like on every emulator ever, you first map them to a virtual RetroPad based around a DualShock/Xbox controller (so a D-pad, dual analog sticks with buttons, Start and Select or equivalents, four face buttons, two shoulder buttons and triggers), then inputs are mapped to this RetroPad in turn on a per-core basis. The advantage is that, if your pad is recognized and more or less fits the modern DualShock mold, the mapping will be done automagically and everything will just work on most cores. The problem is that if your pad differs significantly from the DualShock mold and/or you're playing a core with games that expect a controller that differs from said mold (most notable with N64 and Saturn, and arguably many arcade games), while it will still try to automatically map your inputs with relatively sane defaults, they either won't be optimal for every game or you just might not like said defaults, and now you are forced to change the RetroPad bindings in the Quick Menu, which is a sordid affair.

[Anonymous No.10064045]

>>10061409
callus,thats a name a havent heard in years
>>10058753
how good is ryujinx on integrated gpu?

[Anonymous No.10064050]

>>10059646
Defaut RA maping only works fine with Mario 64. Playing Zelda using the right analog as C buttons is impossible.

[Anonymous No.10064248]

>>10063418
you just set the inputs, save it as a core/game remap and that's it.

[Anonymous No.10064278]

>>10059132
I remember there being a fix for that on ZSNES. Use old engine something.

[Anonymous No.10064356]

How does one map a PS4 controller with Dolphin?

[Anonymous No.10064401]

>>10064278
It's one of many different problems ZSNES has, I'd rather just use a better emulator like Snes9x or bsnes

[Anonymous No.10064416]

>>10059115
Is there a way to use ZSNES's UI in any modern emulator? It's still great.

[Anonymous No.10064463]

>>10064416
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=5681

[Anonymous No.10064621]

>>10058152
>espxe
Based

[Anonymous No.10065547]

>>10064401
snes9x better than znes, wow times sure change

[Anonymous No.10065571]

>Kega
>not Gens

[Anonymous No.10065647]

>Not using duckstation
>Not using fines

ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.10065662]

>>10065647
>fwnes

[Anonymous No.10065682]

>>10064356
Either sync your controller to your PC via bluetooth, or connect a usb cable, then go into controller settings. It should appear as either "wireless controller" or something like "dxinput" if you're using a usb cable.

[Chud Anon No.10065693]

>>10058152
Hmm can you put them in a plastic box with aliexpress controllers and charge me $300 for them?

[Anonymous No.10066006]

>>10058152
>Project64
Name an N64 emulator with a better debugger.

[Anonymous No.10066014]

>>10058152
I thought VBA was still the best.
Oh well, I got a GBA and a GBA player so I can easily switch between big and small screen depending on what I feel like and 100% accuracy for both.

[Anonymous No.10066089]

>>10058663
Thanks

[Anonymous No.10066737]

>>10058152
thanks shitman

[Anonymous No.10067263]

>>10058152
Duckstation AWOO-OOO!
It just plays the games I wanna play.
Duckstation AWOO-OOO!