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[Anonymous No.10040298]

>it's a Lithtech 1.0 game softlocks on you episode
Discuss Monolith Production jankfest games that aren't Blood here

[Anonymous No.10040335]

>make glitchy game one after the other
>throw the publisher under the bus knowing full well publishers never give their version of the story
>people love you for it and call your games hidden gems

It was easy being a western dev, all you gotta do is make shitty things and then say shitty things to defend yourself and everyone is on your side

[Anonymous No.10040338]

>>10040335
they got better at it over time
the only real stinkers are Blood 2 and Contract Jack

[Anonymous No.10040340]

If you ignore the fact all the human characters look like blow up sex dolls then it's a pretty fun and ambitious game. I still wish Monolith would go back to making stuff like Condemned and FEAR instead of movie license slop.

[Anonymous No.10040341]

>>10040335
This is risky, Argonauts tried this shit with Nintendo and there's a reason they were sent to the Croc mines with Fox Interactive before becoming defunct

[Anonymous No.10040345]

>>10040340
>movie license slop is in copyright limbo eternal

[Anonymous No.10040357]

>>10040345
If you really want to play it then pirate it. They've had over twenty years to sort that shit out. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.10040358]

>>10040341
>Argonauts tried this shit with Nintendo

That's the problem right here, in the public consciousness Nintendo is the only publisher that isn't seen as "le evil corporation". Throwing western publishers under the bus is easy though.

[Anonymous No.10040369]

>>10040358
>Argonauts doesn't have a legitimate Gameboy SDK and reverse engineers one as a dev kit
>Makes a prototype of X
>Nintendo of Japan is so interested, they meet with Argonauts and asks if something can be done with the SNES
>Argonauts says no cuz the SNES is way too weak to Nintendo's face despite the Gameboy pulling it off, then requests money for the Super FX chip
>The two codevelop Star Fox
>Argonauts tells Nintendo they can make an even better Super FX chip for a fuck ton more money
>Nintendo says Iwata already doubled the speed on his own time and salary and there's no need
>Realize Argonauts is a subpar developer trying them for a ride
>Cancel Star Fox 2 and take the best parts and put them in the solo developed Star Fox 64, crippling Argonauts
>Argonauts presents an early alpha of Croc as a Yoshi game
>Nintendo rightfully passes
>Argonauts claims for decades that Super Mario 64 ripped off the Croc/Yoshi prototype
>Nintendo cuts ties
>Argonauts becomes defunct

It's almost impossible for Nintendo to look like the bad guy desu. This is all from accounts from Argonauts, Nintendo hasn't had much to say about them since Star Fox 2 was cancelled

[Anonymous No.10040431]

>>10040369
>Argonauts claims for decades that Super Mario 64 ripped off the Croc/Yoshi prototype
I wanna see the prototype. Every time I read that shit in an interview with an ex-Argonaut dev, I want to see the prototype. Super Mario 64 is one of the best games ever made and Croc 1 and 2 are textbook definitions of shovelware. There's no way they had a competent Yoshi prototype that became Croc in under two years, it's impossible. That prototype had to be the shittiest game Nintendo had seen by that point in their history of it was just an early Croc with an off model British Yoshi trying to save Shy Guys or Baby Yoshi's in cages

[Anonymous No.10040435]

>>10040431
>That prototype had to be the shittiest game Nintendo had seen by that point in their history of it was just an early Croc with an off model British Yoshi trying to save Shy Guys or Baby Yoshi's in cages
Or it was just*

And you know what, that second scenario isn't mutually exclusive from the first either on second thought

[Anonymous No.10040478]

>>10040369
You left out how Nintendo hired Argonaut's talent.

[Anonymous No.10040594]

>>10040357
Yeah but multiplayer is completely dead since you're not being spoonfed le gog version
See SWAT 4

[Anonymous No.10040602]

>>10040358
>Nintendo is the only publisher that isn't seen as "le evil corporation"
Oh they absolutely are, they just singlehandedly postponed the death of console gaming well into the 21st century, so they get to get away with murder

[Anonymous No.10040652]

By the way, don't play Shogo. It's got maybe 1 fun mech level in it and the rest of the game is Blood 2 tier. Not worth the effort of a minimum of 45 minutes troubleshooting all its compatability issues.

[Anonymous No.10040657]

Saw this ad on PC Gamer mag, and I also remember seeing a screenshot showcasing bulletholes on a wall. The mechs, FPS and anime aesthetic all got me hyped so much that I went out of my way to get this game and I was not disappointed.

Shame we never got those expansion packs.

My next experience with Monolith and Lithtech would be AVP2, which was even better.

[Anonymous No.10040670]

>>10040369
>Cancel Star Fox 2 and take the best parts and put them in the solo developed Star Fox 64, crippling Argonauts
There's only three people from Argonaut in the credits for Star Fox 2. The game doesn't credit the company separately like the first Star Fox.
>Argonauts claims for decades that Super Mario 64 ripped off the Croc/Yoshi prototype
There never was a Yoshi prototype.
>Nintendo cuts ties
While they cut ties with Argonaut they still worked with Giles Goddard on 1080 Snowboarding and used his 3D Mario head demo for SM64.

[Anonymous No.10040697]

>>10040670
well they never made a lithtech game either, so I cordially invite you to make a thread about some place that isn't this thread