Best FPS Movement

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Best FPS Movement Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:20:08 2020 No.7169378 [Reply] [Original]

What's your favorite movement in FPS? QW/CS style-airstrafing? VQ3 strafejumping? Tribes skiing?
My dark horse pick -- Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2. The combination of un-normalized movement (e.g., running diagonally is faster than just walking forward or strafing), the weirdness of the engine in general, and Force Jump + Force Speed make the movement in that game an absolute delight. Nothing really feels like it, even the other JK games -- although JK:O and forward did have pretty cool movement in their own right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:30:31 2020 No.7169407 File: 28 KB, 800x600, thumb-counter-strike-1.6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169378 GoldSrc engine, specifically bunny hopping and surfing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:39:49 2020 No.7169429 Vanilla HL. It's a combination of doomguy greased endurance man with a little bit of vertical mobility, but not so much you have to wait for his hands to grab on to stuff etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:41:12 2020 No.7169435 >>7169378 Quake 3 is automatically discarded purely for popularizing the autism that is bunnyhopping. Also, anyone who says faster is better for an FPS deserves to have their dick and balls cut off, no exceptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:43:58 2020 No.7169440 >>7169435 We see it already happened to you.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:45:14 2020 No.7169446

>>7169435
>Also, anyone who says faster is better for an FPS deserves to have their dick and balls cut off, no exceptions.
Are you talking about /vr/'s preference for arena shooters over "tactical" shooters?
I think Q3 hits the sweet spot for speed though, QW and Doom MP (which I've admittedly only played once or twice) seem a little too fast. What are your main arguments for faster NOT being better though? Halo (for point of comparison) feels slow as fuck and like you're moving in low gravity all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:49:27 2020 No.7169459 >>7169378 Unreal Tournament 2004 ShieldJump/TrickJump/Trial yt videos. Thx me later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:50:32 2020 No.7169464 >>7169440 What, that I became a chad? Thanks, no doubt, no doubt.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:50:36 2020 No.7169465
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>>7169435
>Also, anyone who says faster is better for an FPS deserves to have their dick and balls cut off, no exceptions.
I certainly didn't appreciate Q2's slowness in the singleplayer, that's for sure.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:54:25 2020 No.7169475

>>7169378
I kinda like UT 2004's mechanics: Double jump, tapping the opposite key near a wall in mid air to push you off in that direction, UT's double tap to evade on ground and using a special sequence to activate a temporal perk once you have full adrenaline.
Also the Translocator. Teleport frags make my dick hard.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:55:51 2020 No.7169478

>>7169446
>Are you talking about /vr/'s preference for arena shooters over "tactical" shooters?

Yes, 100%. Multiplayer only games, specifically arena shooters, are a cancer upon society and gaming as a whole. When you have games that don't rely on who can point to a dot on the screen the fastest, you have more time to balance the game's level design and atmosphere and story and world-building ala Return to Castle Wolfenstein, F.E.A.R., and Aliens vs Predator 2.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:00:00 2020 No.7169483

>>7169465
Q2's character movement is okay. The problems is that enemies don't feel as menacing and well placed as in 1, so it's not very exciting. The most threatening enemies are the turrets in that expansion pack that can nuke you from a corner if you're careless and the Black Widow boss that doesn't let you cheese it out with power ups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:00:53 2020 No.7169484 >>7169478 >When you have games that don't rely on who can point to a dot on the screen the fastest Weird how this applies more to Counterstrike and Call of Duty as opposed to arena shooters when those are the ones you say are specifically cancer.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:01:13 2020 No.7169486

>>7169478
>When you have games that don't rely on who can point to a dot on the screen the fastest
Arena shooters avoid this though. Most "tactical" shooters have quick or instant ttk (headshots) compared to arena shooters where people get overshield and stack. You have to worry about map control and you have to actually make plays to get frags. Your opinion really betrays either a lack of understanding or skill desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:02:18 2020 No.7169491 >>7169478 forgot to add -- RtCW was good though, we can definitely agree on that. and wolfET is incredible and still fun to this day

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:02:31 2020 No.7169493 >>7169465 Circle jumping in action quake 2 was based though

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:04:19 2020 No.7169498
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>>7169483
>Q2's character movement is okay
It's not just 'movement', it's everything. Switching guns, shooting guns, it's all a slowdown in Quake 2 and it's balanced weird: The regular shotgun and grenade launcher shoot faster than super shotgun and rocket launcher in Quake 1, while the opposite is the case for Quake 2 so they're dealing more damage AND they're quicker to use. It looks real cool and the controls are still great, it's not "irredeemable trash", just a chunk more boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:04:59 2020 No.7169504 File: 2.94 MB, 1280x720, DUM.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169484 Arena shooters also gave birth to this abortion, so this is another reason why I'm opposed to them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:07:05 2020 No.7169508 File: 107 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169504 >my opinion of a game from 2016 affects my opinion of a game from 1996

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:07:14 2020 No.7169510

>>7169486
> Most "tactical" shooters have quick or instant ttk (headshots) compared to arena shooters where people get overshield and stack.
>Your opinion really betrays either a lack of understanding or skill desu

Ironic since you just displayed your own total lack of understanding and skill, since moving the mouse cursor too fast and moving or running at all increases your inaccuracy in tactical shooters, so no, going for running flick-of-the-wrist headshots does not happen in tactical shooters like Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Hidden and Dangerous, ARMA, or Operation Flashpoint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:08:15 2020 No.7169512 >>7169508 >another reason Nice reading comprehension there retarded sub-100 IQ dipshit, pay attention next time you may learn a little.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:08:32 2020 No.7169514 >>7169510 >you have to stand absolutely still to hit anyone, this adds depth hmm

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:10:08 2020 No.7169517 >>7169378 duke 3d

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:10:41 2020 No.7169519 File: 105 KB, 1024x768, maxresdefault-2-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169514 Uhhh, yea...and it filters low IQ brainlets such as yourself before the "mission" even begins

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:13:05 2020 No.7169529 File: 927 KB, 480x320, 1582478028454.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169378 I really like Turok 2's movement.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:13:06 2020 No.7169530

>>7169504
>Arena shooters also gave birth to this abortion
That's pretty dumb as the new Dooms are more 'Quake meets Brutal Doom' while progressing like a linear hack and slash. Arena shooters led to the terrible 2016 DLC and then Quake Champions. Also not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:14:50 2020 No.7169539 >>7169519 i played rogue spear and swat 4 and enjoyed them. but you got filtered by multiplayer lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:15:20 2020 No.7169540 File: 311 KB, 792x451, metroid_prime_3_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169378 Metroid Prime had the tightest fps controls I've experienced. One of the first games to get strafing correct on home consoles.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:15:54 2020 No.7169543

>>7169530
>That's pretty dumb as the new Dooms are more 'Quake meets Brutal Doom' while progressing like a linear hack and slash.

It's not, because that's simply your own opinion, which I can also say is equally as dumb, especially since Brutal Doom is the natural evolution of Doom, ala what John Romero said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:17:22 2020 No.7169547 File: 16 KB, 264x377, Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You might not like it, but this is the game that set the standard for modern FPS movement.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:17:35 2020 No.7169548

>>7169539
>I played Rogue spear and SWAT 4 and enjoyed them
>plays dumb
>>7169514
>when tactical shooters objectively have more depth because of ballistics calculation and involvement of weapon sizes where smaller weapons can be moved quicker while losing less accuracy

Just stop, the cope is too cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:19:12 2020 No.7169552 >>7169547 It did for a while, but that stopped being the mainstream standard since 2015

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:22:18 2020 No.7169563 >>7169548 i played them and enjoyed them and then i moved on. multiplayer games provide decades of entertainment

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:22:27 2020 No.7169564 >>7169378 Unreal Tournament if we are talking retro, but I actually think Titanfall 2 has the best movement.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:23:17 2020 No.7169568

>>7169552
You're actually right, it was only really the standard for the 7th gen. In the 8th gen arcadey movement regained popularity with stuff like CS:GO, Overwatch, nuDoom, and Fortnite. Yeah, I know that last one isn't FPS but its extreme popularity still makes it worth mentioning.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:24:44 2020 No.7169573 [DELETED]

>>7169563
>multiplayer games provide decades of entertainment

If you've played one Quake 3 match you've played them all. Nothing to really see or do differently in a match other than kill someone with a different gun while bunnyhopping. Rainbow Six Siege on the other-hand....

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:25:45 2020 No.7169578
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>>7169543
>It's not
No, yours is pretty dumb. Arena shooters didn't lead to anything besides Unreal Tournament. Then they were forgotten about in a sea of Halo, Counter Strike, and eventually CoD.
>ala what John Romero said.
Got any sauce besides what he said in the 20th anniversary video and twitter?

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:28:44 2020 No.7169583
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>>7169563
>multiplayer games provide decades of entertainment
If you've played one Quake 3 match you've played them all. Nothing to really see or do differently in a match other than kill someone with a different gun while bunnyhopping. Rainbow Six Siege on the other-hand....

>i played them and enjoyed them and then i moved on
Cringe cope from a desperate arena-shooter addict who can't recognize reality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:30:17 2020 No.7169586 >>7169578 >NO, UR DUMB Proving my point I see. >Got any sauce besides what he said in the 20th anniversary video and twitter? >got any evidence aside from this other evidence Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:32:42 2020 No.7169597 No one really likes multiplayer fps. Just a larp.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:34:29 2020 No.7169604

>>7169597
They're meme games that eventually die when the popularity goes with them. Singleplayer games can provide decades of entertainment, Multiplayer games can only provide entertainment for as long as they have other people playing them.

Multiplayer only games eventually become dead-end wastes of money because the userbase dries up and moves on to the next meme game and you're left having squandered 50$ to play a game temporarily.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:36:53 2020 No.7169615

>>7169586
>Proving my point I see.
It's safe to ignore my quips and actually respond to the content of my post, it's okay pal.
>got any evidence aside from this other evidence
He only says they "would've destroyed the game industry" - which would happen regardless with PB, DRLA, any other gameplay mod - and that the mod is hilarious. That's not evidence, so you've pulled that "natural evolution of Doom" out of your ass.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:41:25 2020 No.7169631

>>7169615
>It's safe to ignore my quips and actually respond to the content of my post, it's okay pal.
Nothing to really acknowledge. Doom Eternal was objectively inspired by arena shooters, similar to Quake Champions, and that's that, no arguing or debating this, lmao.

>He only says they "would've destroyed the game industry" - which would happen regardless with PB, DRLA, any other gameplay mod - and that the mod is hilarious. That's not evidence, so you've pulled that "natural evolution of Doom" out of your ass.
He also said on Facebook it's the best weapons mod he's ever seen. The fact that Romero loves and appreciates the mod, and even jokingly questioned if they'd released Doom originally like that, shows that Romero fully endorses and considers the concept as being a part of Doom, of course there's also the fact Doom was noted for its gore even back in the day. My bet is you're some 24-25 year old zoomer who likes to pretend they're a 90's kid and really knows what's what.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:46:40 2020 No.7169658

>>7169631
>Doom Eternal was objectively inspired by arena shooter
A single player game was inspired by arena shooters and not Quake, which was consequently what inspired those arena shooters? The game that also has no multiplayer besides some weird asymmetrical multiplayer?
And you're saying there's no arguing or debating this with you? That certainly saves some time.
>He also said on Facebook it's the best weapons mod he's ever seen.
Cool, so he didn't say it was the natural evolution of Doom? Thanks for being considerate and proving MY point, anon, peace!
>My bet is you're some 24-25 year old zoomer
That's wrong, so this must be projecting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 19:57:48 2020 No.7169683 >>7169378 Just loading into a new mission/level in games like Doom/Wolf3D/Quake for that first time. Something about having no fucking clue what I've gotten myself into and those first thumping beats of level music.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 21:58:15 2020 No.7169962
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>>7169378
I played Dark Forces 2 for the first time recently, after already having played Outcast and Jedi Academy, and thought the same thing. The movement combined with the great level design, massive with a lot of verticality while still being coherent, makes it one of the best FPS games I've ever played. Sad that this didn't become the template for future FPS games, rather than Half-Life which came out a year later, with its linearity and set-pieces.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:14:23 2020 No.7170007 >>7169962 >soi wars

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:20:14 2020 No.7170019 >>7169435 filtered

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 22:22:09 2020 No.7170028 >>7169658 >You're projecting Sad that people are this desperate to cope

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 23:02:32 2020 No.7170139
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>>7169962
playing this game back in the day on msn gaming zone amd downloading new maps and mods from massassi.net was a treasured part of my childhood. i even tried download jed and JKEdit and making levels

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 23:38:48 2020 No.7170214 >>7169962 meme forces wishes it was as good as hl1

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:41:39 2020 No.7170369 >>7170214 df2 is a thousand times more fun than boring ass half life

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:42:35 2020 No.7170371 >>7170369 No,it's cringe like all the Star Wars franchise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:44:30 2020 No.7170376 >>7170371 enjoy your proto-cooridor shooter with boring weapons while i cut dudes arms off in upside down crashing spaceships shoot rail detonators and jump 40 ft in the air

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:47:00 2020 No.7170387 >>7169486 They don’t really avoid it all that well considering most arena shooters eventually devolve into server lists full of instagib horseshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:48:26 2020 No.7170392 >>7170376 I will thanks. https://youtube.com/watch?v=w3FrhgOM7_E Enjoy your dead forgotten soi wars game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 00:48:31 2020 No.7170393 >>7170387 that's fair. i like instagib as a change of pace but it does suck when it starts outnumbering dm/ctf servers and the like. would be neat to still be able to play Assault or Domination in UT99 for example

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 03:37:49 2020 No.7170750 >>7169378 Running faster in diagonal is the default, check your pythagoras. Any game where it doesn't happen, the programmers compensated for it by intentionally making the diagonals slower

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 03:41:12 2020 No.7170753 >>7169583 >using Q3A and not QL to prove a point le biais

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 04:34:22 2020 No.7170869 >>7170750 >Any game where it doesn't happen, the programmers compensated for it by intentionally making the diagonals slower that's what "normalized movement" means

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 07:41:20 2020 No.7171156 >>7169378 warsow wall strafing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 07:47:47 2020 No.7171159 >>7169540 I miss wiimote + nunchuk for my comfy fps experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 07:52:42 2020 No.7171164 rocket jumping

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 08:01:34 2020 No.7171178 Bit of a boring opinion maybe but nothing so far has topped the original quakes movement for me. Goldsrc was also great but somehow it was just a bit clunkier than quake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 09:40:09 2020 No.7171302 File: 30 KB, 500x375, 1588337814580.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169435 F I L T E R E D I L T E R E D

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 09:46:53 2020 No.7171323 >>7169465 >no muzzle flash what were they thinking?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 09:50:18 2020 No.7171329 >>7169407 >>7169407 I played cs for 4000 hours and i still can never surf or bunny hop I just dont get it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 10:04:52 2020 No.7171362 wheelchairstein 3d

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 10:05:35 2020 No.7171364 >>7170376 DF1 was superior DF2 is "I wunna be a jewdi" garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 10:09:25 2020 No.7171376 >>7169435 it's not bunnyhopping in quake, it's strafejumping bhop is goldsource/source

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 15:58:57 2020 No.7172553 >>7171364 respectable opinion >>7171329 surfing is just holding left or right as you slide along a slope, go find a beginner surf map and you will figure it out in 2 mins

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:27:02 2020 No.7173262 >>7169407 This, literally perfection.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 01:14:57 2020 No.7174190 >>7169435 Hows Fortnite treating you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 13:27:34 2020 No.7175592 >>7171329 retard

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