/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9990105
Mario 64 for sure. It quite literally made analog controls a necessity for 3D platforming.

The answer is obvious but Anti Nintendo nerds will cry about it

>>9990105
Mario 64 because it was released first and every single game ever released since copied it :^)

>>9990124
I think the best one is crash bandicoot and not Mario, what are your thoughts on that?

Three totally different games. Crash is more of a linear platformer where the goal is getting to the end, Mario 64 was more sandboxy with its levels and challenges, and Tomb Raider takes more after Prince of Persia/Out of this World.
Comparing them is pretty nonsensical.

>>9990105
>Which of the big three did you think stood out the most?

Don't Forget about Bubsy 3D, which came out somewhere between Crash and Tomb Raider.

Also Bug 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7jkmDL4Iiw&t=3470s

and Floating Runner:
https://vigilantcitizen.com/

>>9990126
>it was released first
Maybe in Japan.
Crash released before it in NA / EU.
TR released before it in EU.

Mario 64 obviously. Crash is a great game too though. Both have responsive controls and great level design which is more than you can say about Tomb Raider.

>>9990105 (OP)
>Which of the big three did you think stood out the most?

Don't Forget about Bubsy 3D, which came out somewhere between Crash and Tomb Raider.

Also Bug 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7jkmDL4Iiw&t=3470s

and Floating Runner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQtxyscnmu8&t=373s

>>9990129
first time on this board?

>>9990148
>Both have responsive controls and great level design which is more than you can say about Tomb Raider.
I think TR's controls have delayed input by design. it's a bit slower paced than the other two with more of an emphasis on exploring dungeons. But considering the pacing, I can see why people preferred the others.

TR > Crash > vanilla Mario 64
Mario 64 has near-perfect controls, but a woefully inadequate level of challenge.
>b-but speedrunning!
Is for mentally ill troons.

Mario 64 is boring unless you're 10. Mario 64 ROM hacks, however, blow Crash and Tomb Raider out of the fucking water.

>>9990105
When I was a kid 8:
mario 64 > crash > tomb raider
When I was 16:
crash > mario 64 > tomb raider
In my 30s:
tomb raider > crash > mario 64

tomb raider is perfect. the level design is awesome. that’s a classic.
mario 64 is a classic.
first crash gameis not. second or third are better crash games.

>>9990157
No. But I continue to push against people being complete retards whenever possible. Someone has to.

>>9990105
64 easily. Never really played Tomb Raider, just demos at stores, but I never understood the controls and thought it was unintuitive. Crash is just garbage.

>>9990148
God no, Tomb Raiders level design is easily the best during that generation.

None of the above. This was the best platformer of 96.

I feel like Mario 64 is the best in terms of being both original and fun. The controls are appealing, the newness and gameplay are appealing, the art and music are appealing. Mario 64 was an excellent stab at a new genre and a classic. Crash is an awesome game, but it's basically a slightly-less-good DKC in 3D (not a bad thing, but it's not as 3D. You decide how much you care about that). Tomb Raider is a game that had ambition and excited people for true 3D in ways that can't be described today, but I think a modern audience would find it the least interesting.

>>9990105
Mario 64 wins out in gameplay and music
the first Crash was very rough around the edges but was quite a technical achievement
TR has instant death traps with tank controls - what where they thinking? - but stood out most because of the complete hysteria surrounding the main character
and I agree with >>9990227
gameplay wise DKC3 was more fun than all 3

>>9990227
I love the people that pick the ugliest, shittiest sounding, terrible platformer to defend. "It's a-actually the BEST of the games! THAT'S why everyone s-shits on it!"

>>9990262
you've been blowing a gasket quite a bit about DKC when it's brought up lately. but why do you think of it like that?

>>9990227
>how do you do, fellow Sega kids

>>9990227
That's not even a good scotformer

>>9990105
Mario 64 is ass and I don't respect people who play it regularly, speed runners are like actual problem people.

>>9990215
keep fighting the good fight

>putting Tomb Raider in the same category as platformers like Crash Bandicoot

Let me guess, you also think Contra, Double Dragon 2 and Castlevania are "platformers"?

>>9990105
In terms of gameplay, mario 64.
In terms of level design, TR1 without a doubt.

>>9990551
>>putting Tomb Raider in the same category as platformers like Crash Bandicoot
Yes. That's what everyone did back then, and we were correct. The moveset is even pretty similar to Mario 64, just with tank controls.

>>9990105
tomb raider, you had to be there.

>>9990227
nintendo pretending to be "cool" will always be funny

>>9991068
DKC1 and 2 were definitely cool, but yeah trying to market fucking Kiddy Kong as edgy and hip is hilarious.
And it's even funnier when you understand that they were focusing on him rather than on the actual protagonist Dixie because they thought even a literal toddler would be considered more cool than a girl.

>>9991152
dkc 1 and 2 still tried too hard, a hip hop monkey and a rock and roll one? its silly but at least has some confidence and doesn't get in the way.

>>9991152
I'll admit that in 1996, I thought Kiddy was gay as fuck and didn't give it a chance. I think the game is great in hindsight, but I didn't play it for years.

>>9990105
Kirby's Fun Pak > Super Mario 64 > Mega Man 8 > Lucky Luke > Donkey Kong Land 2 > Donkey Kong Country 3 > Crash Bandicoot > Tomb Raider

>>9990215
Godspeed, anon

>>9990105
Tomb raider and sm64 were so much more popular than crash. Lara Croft was the biggest woman vg character since ms.Pac-Man. Literally took the uk by storm and gave every nerd in America a boner for pyramid tiddies. There were magazine interviews with Lara Croft and swim suit editions. They even got Angelina Jolie to make 2 movies, which are not that bad desu. It may not seem like it now, but tomb raider was fucking huge in the 90s-mid 2000s

>>9990105
Guh huh

>>9991169
Kirby Superstar might be the most overrated game in existence. Only the Cave Offensive is any good, and that's more of a Metroidvania treasure hunt than a platformer.

>>9990551
there's certainly a lot of platforming in later contra titles and Castlevania. so yes!

>>9991609
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

>>9991609
Overrated by who? All Kirby games are really boring if you aren't a 7 year old. I've never seen Super Star listed as a must play SNES game.
Is this a Smashfag thing?

>>9990128
(You)

>>9991156
Come back and read your post.
It's incredibly stupid.
>at least has some confidence and doesn't get in the way
Fucking...what?

>>9990105
There's no contest, really. SM64 is still the best 3D platformer to this day.

Ofc Crash. It has more challenge then onions childish Mario. N64 was garbage with 64 mb cartiges.

>>9990129
>Comparing them is pretty nonsensical.
But that's what makes comparing them interesting. Ever think about that?

Crash 1 is honestly not very good. It's for like 90% just a 2D platformer with a pointless Z axis. Even most of the levels that aren't sidescrollers force you on a strictly straight path, like the rope bridge ones or the factory one with the rolling barrels. Really the only ones with some resemblance of 3D gameplay are the jungle and river ones, and the ones where you ride the hog and run from the boulder. It's hard yes, but mostly because the camera makes what is essentially simple 2D platforming needlessly more difficult. 2 and 3 are much better.

>>9990227
This poster needs to be FLOIGED

Spyro.