/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9970596
I enjoy all three and many others, I don't even mind Pac-Attack.

Mr Driller is my favourite.

>>9970596
This one was pretty good

>>9970596
Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine is pretty good, but the inclusion of Scratch, Grounder, and Dr. Pingas himself makes it pure gold.

>>9970596
Puzzle games in general should be ranked by how good they are by how far up the skill ceiling can be. Maybe? Tetris, Puzzle League and Puyo Puyo are pretty much at the top. With shit like Yoshi being in the bottom. Then again, I have no idea about multiplayer for that one, but the single player is pretty shit tier

Baku Baku, only for the.... SEGA SATURN

>>9970596
meteos

>>9970596
That one, Columns, Klax, Baku Baku, and Bust-a-Move.

>>9971214
This one, too. Always forget about it, but it may be the best ever

>>9971214
My nigga.

>>9970596
Puyo Puyo 2 (and its modernized variation as a ruleset in newer games) is the only VS puzzle game I have played that I consider reasonably well-balanced and viable for competitive play. I love the whole genre but the vast majority of it is jank including all other Puyo games.

Especially Puyo 1. It gets way too much respect in the West through its remakes, it's gigatrash

>>9970596
Sokoban on the original PC-88.

Tetris grand master arcade port to ps1, columns arcade collection saturn, and cleopatra's fortune on taito F3/sat/dc... And of course panel de pon in english on snes

>>9972281
>tetris grand master edition
How does this version to other Tetris games?

>>9970596
for me it's Super Bombliss on super famicom
>also known as tetris blast, but the super famicom version has awesome backgrounds

>>9972182
>remakes
sorry, reskins. i am dumb

>>9973904
Yeah I understood anon, you mean Mean Bean Machine and Kirby Avalanche/Ghost Trap? I believe I've heard they're not quite 1, they're actually 1.5 and the Kirby one actually has a beta 2 ruleset hidden in an hidden menu (can't remember if you need a GS or not to access it) IIRC?
Too bad, because this has the one of the best rendition of Butter Building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dyszSgw07o
Otherwise the reskins were fun. I wish we would still get new Puzzle League with reskins. But at least, because Nintendo cannot use the Tetris name for it again, we finally got Lip and co in some "official" capacity in the west. I was so fucking mad they removed the Lip stage from Planet Puzzle League. Fucking why?
Actually, I can't believe we don't have Puzzle League 99 with all the cool skins the other games had

>>9974453
A Puzzle League like Tetris DS but with SNES themes instead of NES would be neat or just bringing over a new PDP game.

>>9974526
I dunno, the point is that Tetris DS had crazy ass modes because of what you can do with the tetriminos, I can't see these be possible with Puzzle League, but who knows
But otherwise, Nintendo is sleeping on a great series again, probably because they don't feel like they can shove in new stuff, which is sad. Maybe we're due for a Nintendo Puzzle Collection 2 or something. Have this, Dr.Mario 64, Polarium, the Snes wrecking crew puzzle game, Puzzle Loop/Magnetica Twist (the wiiware/DS version with missions and stuff) and bring it all together with a museum mode with unlockable stuff a la Sonic Gems Collection and we could have a fantastic way to renew these games

>>9974567
Oh, and/or maybe Kirby Star Stackers, that would truly be an all-star line up for a puzzle collection

>>9970596
Dr. Romotherfuckingbotnics lean mean grean bean eating machine

>>9970596
>puzzle games
Did you mean stack 'em ups?

Also the best one is still Columns.

>>9970596
Puyo Puyo Tetris is my favorite, but Puzzle League is comfy as well.

also Solomon's Key

>>9973045
This one's good, and I generally find Tetris to be boring.

>>9970596
bust-a-move 2

>>9970596
Tetris Plus is my favorite, followed by Lumines on the PSP.

I also like Columns. I typically play the Sakura Wars Hanagumi Columns games on Saturn and Dreamcast.

Been playing mostly Tengen Tetris lately but I really like Pac-Attack and Hanagumi Taisen Columns. There's also Poke Tetris which is technically not a real game but still pretty fun. This thread just reminded me that I have a brick game keychain coming in the mail too lol

I've probably spent more time with Puzzle Quest on DS than anything else. It's a shame that no other games in the series are as good. I played the remaster on Switch and it definitely still feels great to play.

>>9972150
>Always forget about it,

It's easy to do that on /vr/ because we're not supposed to talk about DS games here

>>9973045

I played some Bombliss games recently and found their main modes unsatisfying. It felt like the four-tile super bombs were overwhelmingly powerful; I always just wanted to make one of those in the middle and crush everything. The versus mode on whichever one I tried the versus mode of felt too volatile and random. The puzzle modes, though, were really interesting, and I played all the way through them in multiple games.

>>9977064
We're not supposed to talk about GBA or PS2 in /vr/ either, though. Fuck old people.

>>9976765
I wish this and Diner Dash would get GBA ports. That said, my Puzzle Quest hype was way greater than my actual enjoyment with it. It's just competitive Bejeweled...

Anybody played Burgertime Party?

>>9977328
The stickied thread literally says they're considered retro

Physical paper puzzles you can solve with a pencil.

Alright I don't know who started the meme that Tengen Tetris is better than regular Nintendo Tetris but they lied. GB Tetris will always be the best version

Pokemon Picross (GB) and Mario's Picross are really good for their sub-genre of Puzzle games ("Pen-and-Pencil" puzzles?)

The differences:

Mario's (GB) leaves more room for error, but never let's you forget your errors (noting how many times you restarted). The ones on Super NES don't record that, however (iirc).

Pokemon's Picross (GB) feels more fast-paced and hectic than Mario's: it leaves far less room for error (because you can't unlock everything if you don't beat each Picross puzzle fast enough, each error adding a minute to your time-completion score), but it doesn't note how many times you played/restarted a puzzle like Mario's (GB) does. It also feels slightly more rewarding, because (in a very similar fashion to Pokemon Pinball) it features a Pokedex of all the puzzles you completed and your song choice is depicted as the "current Pokemon you're using".

>>9979032
*Pen-and-Paper

>>9970596
For me, it's gotta be Otenki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEA_ttyUR_U&t=1166s

>>9970596
Pokemon Puzzle on the N64 was my mom's favorite game

Myst.

bump

>>9977328
Calm down, fetus. Dont be upset no one wants to talk about that stuff on /v/.

>>9974567
Nah, you're going to get a phone version where you pay for skins and you're going to buy it or no potential new game in the series ever again.

Puzz

>>9971214
The few times I've tried to play this made me feel retarded.

My top 3:
>Tetris Attack
>Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo
>Intelligent Cube

>>9974567
>>9974572
I want this, man. I love PuzzLoop/Ballistic/Magnetica.

>>9970596
These would be my picks:
>tetris
>bombliss
>puzzle league
>puyo puyo
>wildsnake
>puzzle bobble
Not 100% if these other ones are what you’re talking about since they’re less traditional stuff, but they’re still puzzle games I think are great:
>picross
>lemmings
>adventures of lolo
>wrecking crew
>lode runner
>mr driller
Have my preferences on what specific releases of these games I like, but that would sorta deviate things from “best” to “favorite”

>>9984069
oh completely forgot magical drop my bad

>>9984073
AND Wario’s Woods, should’ve taken my time with that comment more

>>9983984
I played the Wiiware ver back then when I was sampling them all for fun and I found the mission mode of it to be pretty great. It really needs to come back

>not a single person talking about the official switch/ps4 tgm2 port
that's probably because it was a lazy repackaged emulated version of a niche game for shitty consoles that got zero marketing but still... fail

>>9984182
Why would I play that when I could play Card Captor Sakura TGM on my Playstation X?

>>9984292
>playstation x
and here i thought the ps1 vs. psx debate couldn't get any gayer. god i'm naive

>>9974681
The meds, auster

>>9970603
Playing Magical Drop alone isn't all that fun. Playing against someone is a lot of fun. Also beating the game with an S tier character on easy mode is basically easy-easy mode. If you want a challenge play as Fool on the hardest level.

Zoo Keeper is the only match-3 game I know of (though I also don't play many match-3 games) where you not only can keep matching tiles while other tiles are in their matching animation, but those matches add to your combo. It gives it a Puzzle League sort of feel where you're thinking multiple moves ahead and timing your swipes to land at the exact moment the pieces drop to keep the combo going, but the relentless timer means you can't take too long looking for combos. The timer gets frustratingly fast as the levels go up, with your only real defense being making long combos and using an item to see where a match is, though you get a maximum of 3 and you only get one back at certain score targets. I hate how bad I am at it, but I still come back to it.

my favorite by far because it has one of my many retro waifus

based.

>>9985510
Is this a taito game, because I swear that either the same character is there, or the same artist ultimately leading to a very similar art style for the human characters of Bust-A-Move '99

>>9985098
>Zoo Keeper is the only match-3 game I know of (though I also don't play many match-3 games) where you not only can keep matching tiles while other tiles are in their matching animation, but those matches add to your combo.
I'm pretty sure Bejeweled 3 also has this. At least on certain game modes.

Digital crack.

>>9985510
>>9986274

Bust a move 99 is the only bust a move videogame in the entire franchise with a female fanservice character. So nostalgic that retro waifu. By the way, too bad she did not returned in bust a move 4.

The Incredible Machine

>>9987889
So it IS the same character
Also I prefered the Jester girl, which she may or may not be from a Taito quiz game? The bubble bobble wiki isn't clear on that if she's actually from Yūyu no Quiz de Go! Go!, or if it's just a random profile ref (of course it's shit, it's fandom)

>>9970603

those gifs thought, make me want to play magical drop

>>9970596
Definitely not Puzzle League. Casual ass chaining for babbies, slow as fuck gameplay where you're just sitting there waiting for the garbage blocks to convert into normal pieces and lack of timers means you'll be playing the same versus match possibly for hours on end, instead of gradually getting harder the longer you play like any good versus stacker will do.

Fuck Panel de Pon, Pokemon Puzzle League, Tetris Attack, whatever you wanna call that shit, worst fucking stackers of all time.

>>9971214
>>9976765
>>9985098
>>9987146
not retro
>>>r/eddit

>>9990476
Not an argument.

>>9990423
>slow as fuck gameplay where you're just sitting there waiting for the garbage blocks to convert into normal pieces

You know you can scroll the screen up instead of waiting, right?

>>9970596
I really like pac-attack. Specifically the version on the JP exclusive namco anthology 2 PS1, because you can rotate counter clockwise.
And it looks a lot better then the snes and genesis ones.
That and of course the adventure of lolo series is pretty damn good, same with Sutte Hakkun

>>9970596
Crazy how lazy and uninspired the N64 game looks and feels, whereas the GBC game actually feels well done, like actual care was taken with it.

Wario's Woods SNES is my jam.

>>9990505
>You know you can scroll the screen up instead of waiting, right?
Yes, but it doesn't work whilst garbage is being converted into normal tiles so you just have to twiddle your thumbs until the garbage is gone.

>>9991593
Newer games allows you to do that with an option

>>9991908
Too bad they're not retro, nor will the DS ever be retro.

>>9992174
that option is on the GBA port

>>9992176
>have to play on a gay handheld to get the improved gameplay
Cringe.
Way to fucking go, nintendon't.

>>9983834
>Intelligent Cube
This game is awesome.

>>9990587
I only had the N64 one, was I missing out?

>>9995072
I just mean that the N64 game looks and sounds like one of those old shitty Flash games you'd play online back then. It definitely looks the part of a rushjob handed to some nobodies, which it sort of was despite it beginning life as a proper Panel de Pon game.

>>9995293
Is that ver., or any other ver of Puzznic makes away with the lives/time limit limitations or something? The 8-bits versions are a tad too brutal for me
Otherwise, there was an old Win 3.1 clone called "Uz" or "3D Uz" (it's not 3D???) that was fun but stopped working post-vanilla XP. It works fine in Wine however it's one of those games that works with your CPU speed and the in game speed slider doesn't go high enough for modern PCs, BUT, you can edit the save file to make it way higher, but there's still a limit and you're still not at a completely ideal speed. However, it's VB3, which can be completely reversed engineered by a program and this could be fixed by someone who knows what they're doing IIRC

Mr Driller!!!!!!!

>>9995674
The Playstation version gives you infinite continues but your score goes back to zero each time

Can anybody explain me how to play colums and colums III? I lost evrytime.

Thanks in advance.

>>9996418
Try maximizing the number of diagonal matches.

>>9970596

Honestly, most retro puzzle games are trash. Coding more interesting puzzle games wasn't limited by the old hardware. Instead, we just got a billion different variations on the Tetris falling block genre.

>>9996928
>Instead, we just got a billion different variations on the Tetris falling block genre.
(and that's a good thing)

>>9979032
>the Pikachu level, unironically
Horror-tier difficulty.

>>9996928
>falling blocks
>op posts a pic of a game where blocks dont fall
really makes those synapse start tingling

>>9998052
I see you haven't actually ever played OP's game.

>>9998117
I've beaten all the Panel De Pon games including the gamecube one on the highest difficulty. It is my favorite series of all time.
Unless you're enough of a faggot ass retard to consider "garbage" the same thing as Tetris, you should just end your own life.

>>9998131
The blocks. Do they fall or do they not fall. A very simple question.

>>9979705
This game is basically Panel de Pon perfected. I love it. The claymation aesthetic and lovely soundtrack are just icing on the cake.

>>9998143
yes but why do falling blocks bother you so much? They're fun

>>9998781
It stops being fun after the 500th game.

>>9998884
for you

based.

RNG-based puzzlers are shit. What are some good ones where you solve a static puzzle?

based.

Just finished Landmaker's puzzle and gotta say it's kind of a mixed bag
>gorgeous digitized images introducing the new land
>followed by the plainest fucking graphics ever during gameplay (what you will see for hours)
>soundtrack ranging from soothing new age sounds to just there
>it teaches you the fundamentals and makes you come up with techniques to solve the puzzle
>you'll still be doing the same motions a lot (to make a 7x7 building, as the main scoring method is by making bigger buildings than what's asked from you)
There's also penatly-free advice, though retries will cost you, and the feeling when the anwser clicks is satisfactory.
All in all, if you have the time, I still recommend fans of the arcade game to go through it once and learn/refine some tricks.

>>10002440
Fire n' Ice on the NES is excellent. There's even a NG+ with new puzzles after beating the game.

>>10002440
The PS2 port of Intelligent Qube has 100 static puzzles for you to solve.

>>10003710
>Solomon's Key 3 never ever
life is suffering

>>9996928
Panel de Pon is quite different though, instead of rotating blocks from the sky, you have to swap blocks rising from the ground and you move constantly in all 4 directions, all of that makes it considerably more different from Tetris than Puyo Puyo, or Dr. Mario that have blocks falling from the sky that you also rotate clockwise or anti-clockwise.
Whenever I play this game it's always a good indicator of how good my controller's D-Pad feels

>>10005515
Yeah, in other words it's a casualization of the falling block formula. It's far more difficult only being able to control one piece at a time, whereas in PdP you can rotate any of the blocks as much as you want via the cursor.

Shit is for retarded babbies, as expected from Nintenglobohomo.

>>10005549
Sony Computer Entertainment has always and continues to be the globohomo Hollywood company.

>>10005607
Maybe, but Nintendo were turning kids gay first.

Repost of recs I found in another puzzle thread:

>Tetris cinematic universe
Tetris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQwohHgrk2s

Hatris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upndDG-B-hs

Welltris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-gmkXdM90

Faces...tris III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm0xHswk1Lg

Bombliss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tp-D6tokxM

Tetrisphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLSKnVJMvHg

>color matching kings
Puyo Puyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOyVX7sJzq8

Columns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5yzwNA_Ls

Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hBoeRuOtbU

Puzzle Dama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YxrjK9i-7I

>Nintendo
Dr. Mario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXdtKEHDNU

Panel de Pon / Tetris Attack / Puzzle League
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTeAM-zx4gA

Wario's Woods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usLy-wO-_fA

Wrecking Crew '98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0KodgKLh_Y

Yoshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJOesRDdzZs

Yoshi's Cookie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-DQ-bZmzBA

>Magical Drop-likes
Magical Drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ov62aA919E

Money Puzzle Exchanger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhnZAy_CNlA

AstroPop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RtNa_nmUI

>Puzzle Bobble-likes
Puzzle Bobble / Bust-a-Move
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1I0lzM_UZI

Puzzle de Pon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elldJ5ZZsvU

Snood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=502PopbKqQ4

Dynomite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWoLJ4wZ6Q

Puzzle Uo Poko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdweiPeNOJo

>Puzz Loop-likes
Puzz Loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_RTUI5D8pc

Zuma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ou5Bco1sHM

Luxor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3rlWb-ngmU

>>10005691
Continued:
>other random stack em ups
Baku Baku Animal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaDZZze4w20

Blockout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tn_WoNxG2M

Cleopatra Fortune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiarmdPXaRw

Heisei Tensai Bakabon Susume! Bakabons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCnyN4u6iAc

Klax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5agwV8qfL9Q

Mouja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK4L07fzGhY

Otenki Kororin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJURZvRoe0

Palamedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJWoq15Oog

Pochi and Nyaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22CCxJ9eko

Pop'n Pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOTSr1MA37E

Puzzled / Joy Joy Kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ar3NP0hNOI

Rox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1GbR2IMl4

Quarth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MTI74gvzU

Risky Challenge / Gussun Oyoyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUb0kD1P5A

SD Gundam: Power Formation Puzzle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aROpRx9Dpw

Senkyu / Battle Balls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbVg27r1RFA

SegaSonic Bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEwSZdORmA

Sonic Eraser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgHo2FApgMI

Swing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F56QHP5Y24

Tenchi Muyou! Rensa Hitsuyou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu5Tb07Sk08

Toryumon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_LEJzK3290

Vadims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjLNpBNwJg

Waku Waku Monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnWsdgk-rhI

Wetrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYx0DeuPlOY

>match em up
Bejeweled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvLtaf1PFVM

Carton-kun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqbcQK_MZ8

>>9970596
Mario's Puzzle Party from Mario Party 3.

>>9995293
Altron's takes on Taito puzzlers are so charming

>>10005696
>Carton-kun
So that's what Puzzle Guzzle is based on! It looks a lot less sterile, that's the same reason I couldn't get into PSP Panic Bomber.

>>10007247
Patrako a cute.

>>10005691
kudos here anon, thanks