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Definitely.

>>9962197
Sure but they would need to increase the enemy count to like SMASH TV levels if there's going to be any sort of challenge. Or not, whatever.

Didn't the NES and/or SNES Smash TV use two controllers at once to accomplish this? I bet a lot of people just didn't even try it out though. It'd need to be the default in some game, and yeah having a single controller that was actually built for it would help a lot.

>>9962324
Post your 1ccs

>>9962325
If what you said is true I can't imagine many being bothered with such a thing or even knowing about it. I see a lot of modern twin stick top down shooters from indie developers and I am more than certain that in another timeline where consoles like Genesis and SNES had the controllers shipped on launch to support such a thing we would definitely seen way more games like this. I am sure we could have seen them even do some adventure style games in the style. Without the sticks though the genre was too cumbersome for the most part to really work.

>>9962328
I deposited 10cc's into your mom's pussy.

snes controller is the definitive smash tv experience. its quicker to press buttons than moving a joystick.

>>9962336
So it took you ten tries to make his mom orgasm.

>>9962325
Only the nes one and doesn't really work without arcade sticks. Then you lose 2 player. Not compatible with the 4 score. It is interesting to play though.

>>9962325
>>9962335
SNES Smash TV used the D-pad for movement and the four face buttons for directional shooting. You just had to hold two adjacent buttons for diagonal shooting. It actually worked quite well. Great port of the game.

I believe the NES and maybe Genesis versions had an option to use the D-pads on two controllers at once, but I never played those ones.

Nah they always looked like shit. Truly a stain on the otherwise PERFECT Contra game.

>>9962461
lol come on anon stop being ridiculous. I'm not saying its bad but it would clearly be way better with two sticks for movement and shooting. This genre was just made seemingly to play at its best this way. Just think of how much better those levels in Contra 3 would have been with these controls.

>>9962646
Smash TV is kusoge tho, not sure why you're acting like Contra 3 is the problem here.

>>9962658
Well I am not saying it was a problem. Just those top down levels kind of sucked and controls does play a role in that.

>>9962526
yeah i don't understand why konami felt compelled to include these stages. either they were genuinely trying to introduce some variety or nintender forced them to because they wanted to shill mode 7.

seems like a better use of mode 7 would've been 3d backgrounds or something.

>>9962468
i weezed, good comeback anon

>>9963232

It'd be fine to have normal top-down stages like in previous Contra games, but with some rotation. Just, like, normal linear Contra stages, except instead of following a straight path you'd reach curved sections wherein the camera would gradually rotate as you continued walking forward, or whatever. Maybe then the whole map of a stage would need to be knotted into a small rectangular area like an F-Zero course though, in order to fit within hardware limits... It does seem like an awkward thing to accomplish. I'm sure it could have been done well though. The biggest problem with these stages is that they're too simple and bland, not that they use Mode 7. With a more varied landscape, more varied enemies, and some fun location-specific gimmicks here and there (like what you see in the side-view stages), it could have been pretty good.

Maybe the developers just thought that this running-freely-around-a-city thing they attempted would be more fun than it turned out to be, and that it would make up for the lack of polished action setpieces.

>>9962325
Robotron on the N64 could use two controller for duel stick play and thanks to the odd shape of the controller it worked quite well.

>>9963436
tbf, the non-sidescrolling levels in Super C was also uninteresting. at least the bosses in contra 3 were cool

There were a few good ones.

>>9963648

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>>9962197
A lot of people hate those levels in Contra 3, but I thought they were cool. I thought they were cool then and I still think they're cool now. They had their own bosses and you could even play 2 player split screen. The only thing that is a bit annoying are the bridges on the second one but with careful play you can get past these without any trouble.

>>9963668
They're cool but nothing really happens (outside of the bosses). I'd like to see someone attempt to make more out of the concept, i find it cooler than your typical top-down shooter where you shoot in 8 directions.
Also that's cool it had splitscreen, i wonder if that's why they made it easy though? cant imagine half a screen in that mode

>>9963648
Which game is this?

>>9963803

>>9962197
There are many overhead shooters out there though. Now, if you mean mode 7 style overhead shooters, they were definitely underexploited.
One game you should definitely check out is Namco's Assault from 1988, amazing shooter with dual-stick tank controls.
https://youtu.be/m5z2Qu6efAA

>>9963668
They were cool for the time, but they haven't aged well compared to the side scrolling levels. IIRC there's a GBA version that ditches them and replaces them with levels from the Mega Drive game? I can't remember properly, I need to check.

>>9962197
desu general overhead action-adventure seems underutilized, every action concept just defaulted to a sidescroller.