/vr/ - Retro Games

Always wondered if this room was really in the game somewhere. Obviously not part of the main quest, but maybe hidden in a debug file or something.

I remember a long ass time ago, when I was new to the internet, I went to the OoT board on Gamefaqs and found a topic called "strange creature".

Some dude said he saw a pig-like enemy in Dampe's Grave, and the rumor spiraled out of control. Looking back it was obvious that he was lying out the ass but I was new to being online. I started talking to the people in that topic over AIM and eventually learned internet culture that way.

Also, your picture is really creepy. I'm not one of those faggot kids that's all "HOOOO LAVENDER TOWN" but that picture gives me some genuine willies.

>>993846
If it was anywhere in the game, even as an unused asset of some sort, it would've been found by now. the only way we would be able to see that room at this point is if someone got their hands on that particular build of the game, if it was even in a playable state.

>>993854
Yeah, I was scouring the Gamefaqs forums earlier to day and saw topics about it. I was thinking of going to Dampe's, but I didn't read enough to discern it was a fraud (I'll probably still visit, though, who'mIkiddin)

>Also, your picture is really creepy. I'm not one of those faggot kids that's all "HOOOO LAVENDER TOWN" but that picture gives me some genuine willies.

That's why I picked it, haha. I did good.

>>993846
There have been other rooms discovered on the cartridge, but I don't believe a Triforce room was ever reported among them. So no, probably not.

>>993867
I had wondered if there was a playable version of "Zelda 64." I wonder if one exists?

This should be up your alley OP:
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn_Fountain

And the entrance to it is deep under the water in Zora's Domain. You can access it with Iron Boots if you get under the Ice as Adult Link, or by doing the rupee dive glitch as Child Link, but there's nothing really to see, just a weird square alcove deep underwater with nothing in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t06njgliQXw

>>993876
Yeah, I had heard the name tossed around but figured it was as infamous Sky Temple. I'll have to check it out.

That's actually kind of neat.

>>993838
I have a better picture somewhere but when I found the hidden hole in the meadow. Now that was sweet.

Then there was that hole in the wall next to the ice cavern and I always wondered what was up there or even how to get there in the first place. I never bothered to look it up online because I always liked to figure out these things myself.

As great as I know it would be OP, OoT has got to be one of the most picked apart games ever. It's very unlikely you'll find something new, however, it is pretty fun to just explore.

Ya know, I kinda want someone to just put out versions of famous games where they just drop in random weird/creepy shit like that. Couldn't be that hard, could it? And it seems like it'd be fun to do too, with the concept->product path being so short and the resources so available.

>>994134
>Ya know, I kinda want someone to just put out versions of famous games where they just drop in random weird/creepy shit like that.

That would be awesome.I'm surprised nobody's made any hacks based off of creepypastas like Ben Drowned and what-not, even. Anything as much as seeing a new character or a new type of enemy, or a different piece of music that plays in a certain event, that would be so worth it.

What I do actually hate are all the little "completest" secrets, like finding all the heart pieces or finding another random cave with money in it (unless it's like the one pictured above or the one with the freaking cow in it). If I were designing a game, I would want to hide stuff that would be more rewarding, something that really adds to the collective atmosphere of the game. Like a secret village or ruins or something small that doesn't really have a bearing on the game but is just there, and very hard to find. A place you'd want to come back and see again.

That's my rant, anyway.

For me, most of the mystery nowadays comes from glitches. New glitches are actually still being discovered for this game. It's amazing what you can do, and it seems endless. The tower collapse skip was discovered only about a month ago, and I'm pretty sure Wrong Warp is only a year or two old. To me that's real mystery, stuff the developers didn't even intend, but is there anyway.

As for stuff they DID intend...I didn't discover the hidden room in ganon's castle years after playing. The one where, you use the Lens of Truth in the main room, and get to a room with Deku Scrubs and Fairies.

Also, that room in Gerudo Fortress, right at the end with just a table and chairs, leading to ABOVE your prison cell. I didn't know about that until recently and it blew my mind.

>>994429
Glitches in concept don't interest me initially but they can certainly be cool in the way you described. I saw the snippet of the video where you can warp directly from the Deku Tree to the end of the game, and I'm tempted to try that out.

>Also, that room in Gerudo Fortress, right at the end with just a table and chairs, leading to ABOVE your prison cell...

I actually just discovered that a few days ago!

http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/

Anyone remember this amazing site from 1998? It's a goldmine of classic Ocarina of Time glitches and beta info.

In recent years I discovered that the site owner was a crazy crossdresser.

>>994416

There actually are romhacks based on creepypastas, but they're mostly for Pokemon pastas.

>>994648

>The Triforce and the KKK
>http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/ztriklan.htm

Thanks for sharing, this is crazy. 90's internet is full of weird sites like this.

I remember someone made an incredibly detailed rumor about Jabu Jabu's lake being where the Triforce was. The sky was almost always golden as Adult Link, the monsters were hidden in caves, etc.
They backed this up with a graphics glitch that showed a triforce out of broken pixels if you stood on the cliff where the invisible skulltulas went to, stood at the right spot and looked towards the forest texture.

It did in fact, after roughly an hour of experimenting, make a graphical tear that looked like a miniature triforce.

>>994102
Lift up the grey rocks near the Fairy Fountain with the Silver Gauntlets

>>994648
Christ I remember that

>>994648
That's as much a part of my childhood nostalgia s the game itself. I want to print out every page on the sight and bind it into a book.

>>994669
Bah, fuck that. Someone should make an interactive Zelda pasta ROM.

Frankly, I never understood why the gossip stones did all they wacky things they did. Just for fun I guess?

>that big key you can't get to in banjo kazooie.

Anyone remember that?

>>995050
There's so much crazy shit in Banjo Kazooie.
There's all these hidden eggs, and beating the game shows three of them to you.
You were supposed to collect them all, and the key, and quickly switch cartridges from Kazooie to Tooie, but there ended up being hardware limitations on the N64 that prevented it.
You can still collect them all though, using cheats by spelling out long ass phrases on the floor of the sandcastle.

http://banjokazooie.wikia.com/wiki/Stop_'n'_Swop

>>995126

It would have been perfectly possible on early N64 models that kept the RAM for 30 seconds after the console turned off. Nintendo just made a hardware revision that only kept the RAM for about three seconds or something.

>>995152
Well, yeah, that would be a hardware limitation as far as I'm aware.
Are these early N64s floating around, or was that before release?
It wouldn't do anything anyways if you could get your hand on one...

>>995175

They're just regular N64s, they're not super rare development kits or anything. I don't think there's any way to tell them apart. Unless some idiots made a game that didn't initialize the RAM on boot and there's some sort of glitch that that can cause.

>>993873
you can wonder all day kiddo we'll never see or play it

>>995228

What crawled up your ass and died?

>>995236

Hope, apparently.

>>995570
Some kind of beta Temple of Time?

>>995570

Debug roms are so fucking awesome. I can't help myself, whenever I see one I download it.

>>995630

the most recent discovery is the glitch-warp from the Deku Tree boss room to Ganon's tower after the first ganon-fight.
Allows the game to be beaten sub-20minutes.

>>995050

you can get it.

>(remember that the hidden Arwing was found only recently).

Been longer than that. I remember discussing the Arwing with a buddy that passed away in '05.

>>995050

You can get that with a code at the sand castle, I think?

Because before that was all publicly revealed, I used a GameShark to pass through and get it, and nearly fucking SHIT whenever I was able to actually pick it up. Used to love just exploring that game, so seeing all those secrets in the ending made me spend countless hours rummaging around every square inch of the game.

Sup /vr/, thought I would dump some info on Ocarina of Time modding:

Flotonic's Hylian Toolbox
http://www.maco64.com/download_page.php?download=2

>Used to import, modify, and create custom items/maps/characters/etc. This is basically the main editing tool for Ocarina of Time. There are a bunch of tutorials in the link above.

SharpOcarina
http://code.google.com/p/sharpocarina/

>A scene editing tool similar to Hylian Toolbox. Used to create custom levels.

Flotonic's Scroll of Time
http://forums.maco64.com/topic/830833/1/

>Used to edit/create ingame text (such as signs).

Pierre's Ocarina Studio
http://forums.maco64.com/topic/830829/1/

>Used to sequence your own Ocarina songs.

Interface Lift
http://forums.maco64.com/topic/830828/1/

>Used to modify the game's HUD. Generates a gameshark code.

>>995152
The N64 did that? That's a very thoughtful feature; it would allow for easy save file transferring between cartridges. Damn, they really should have pushed that more.

>>995829
Thanks for the links, those are useful.

>>995829
Are there any mods that are actually good?

>>995829
Quick note about the Hylian Tools download link:

It comes as a tar.gz file, just use 7zip to extract it and you'll get the exe and all that.

>>995829
I didn't realize OoT had such an array of modding tools. Neat.

>>995862
Not really.

A lot of these tools came out fairly recently. I remember hearing about a program called the Utilities of Time back in 2007 that was an OOT editing tool, but pretty much nothing came of it. It seems like these modern tools are heavily improved versions of it or something.

It took Mario 64 a while to get a good mod scene going so hopefully OOT will catch up in a year or so.

People are pretty much making complete Mario 64 fan games now http://youtu.be/_JBdxcnyxeQ

>>995865
I didn't either until I did some research today. This seems to be the biggest OOT modding forum, but it's only in its infancy and pretty much no one seems to know about it http://forums.maco64.com/site/

>>995875
I hope some talented people get their hooks in this. I'd love to finally have more 64 era Zelda stuff to play.

>>995893
I'm going to try messing around with some of the tools tonight. It seems that a lot of the OOT projects right now are over ambitious and doomed to fail. The trick is to start small and work your way up.

>>995924
Sounds about right.

Coherent dungeons are the building blocks of a good Zelda anyways. You never really need to decide how many you're going to make BEFOREhand.

>>995829

you know whats cool? i would just love to play new levels/locations with these graphics/feel. i dont know, it would just seem so neat

>>995960
This.

I love the "feel" on the 64bit Zeldas. With the Project 64 Software Render Plugin it would look just like the real thing.

bump for OoT romhackign interest. I would love to see someone just hack the Field to have more enemies and obstacles through out it.

>>994669
I believe Jadusable (yeah I spelled it wrong but you know what I mean) made his own mod to go along with his pasta.
Though that was for MM.

>>995793
Wow, I didn't even know. Well dayum.

>>995829
>>995893
>>995924
>>995960
>>995968
Hell yes, if someone with the know-how and the flair wants to take a stab, I would freaking love to dive into a fresh 64-bit Zelda experience. Hell, it can be the same game as far as I care, with just a tiny new element here and there that one would have to catch. My interest is piqued.

>>994987
- jiggled despite being stones
- told time
- spouted random rumors
- turn into rockets when bombed

...I'm looking for a connection here but I don't see one.

>>996548
Wouldn't mind playing that either. ....though, I'd have to play MM first. (I know, I know...)

>>995851
It's strange nobody picked up that idea.
That'd make a neat way to unlock characters for the next smash game. Although I guess if they were to do that they'd just do it with save files, huh.

>>993838
!

>>996567
Hory shit.

>>996556

>>996569
To my credit, I have at least rented it before and gotten to the first temple.

One of these day's I'mma buy it. I kind of love the fact that there's a 64-bit Zelda I've yet to discover.

I've always wondered why developers would leave random things in games.

Go through just about any games debug mode, and you're bound to find a bunch of stuff that was never used.

Why would they leave it in? Or could it be by accident?

>>996583
Want mine?

I played OoT for basically the first time a few weeks ago, and I wondered the entire time what the purpose of those goddamn owl rocks were for

>>996587
Why remove it?

>>996592

Free up space?

Although I guess if the game is near completion, it doesn't matter much.

>>996589
Hahaha, if you want. There's some shops near me that have it.

Wow, can someone post even the most obvious type of secrets or glitches?
As a kid, I loved playing around and shit, but I never got to find any hidden temple or cool glitch or whatever. So even if it's "old news" could you guys post them?

>>996605
YouTube "swordless link".

Bullshit I want to see in an OoT romhack:

>Kakariko dungeon removed
>Seasons and snow effects added
>More content around hyrule field (possibly expanding the horse racing minigame or [and this is a big stretch] horseback combat events like the ones from TP)
>The Sun's Song disabled on maps where time passes on its own (so no despawning enemies in Hyrule Field)
>More minigames

And lastly, because I'm a cunt,
>A complete conversion that turns it into a cross between Harvest Moon and Zelda. I mean, how fucking comfy would that be?

>>996638
Those are all nice, but fleshing out Hyrule Field is just essential.
I mean at the very least put a sewer system/underground tunnel shortcut between Kakariko and the town.

To add to the list of fun things, put a minigame involving diving off Gerudo Valley into the river. That shit's awesome.

>>996638
>Seasons and snow effects added
The game takes place over the course of only a few days unless you're doing something weird.

>>996648
>diving off Gerudo Valley into the river. That shit's awesome
what does it feel to be MY NIGGA

Man I could never had enough of that.

>>996692

Yeah but (and I forgot a point)
with an added post game or something that just let you walk around the restored and extremely comfy saved hyrule. Think about it. Enemies skinned by season, a real ice and snow dungeon, snow golem type enemies in Hyrule Field.

Just me, really.

>>993876
I believe the current established theory on that area is that it was meant to be the entrance to the Ice Temple before it was canned and reworked into the shorter Ice Cavern.

If anyone's seriously thinking about adding something minor to OoT the easiest thing to do would be add a mini dungeon for the Arrows of Light.
It always seemed weird and lazy that you needed to earn every item up to that point, but then the one item you need to kill the final boss is just given to you.
I'd recommend putting a hidden lens of truth alcove in the temple of time, or something similar.

>>994416
Oh man, imagine if there was a well-hidden OoT grotto which contained the ruins of a small village and played the Dodongo Cavern music. I could go for stuff like that.

>>993873
Possibly sitting a drawer somewhere at one of Nintendo's development buildings in Japan, along with prototype builds of other games, and things we've never even heard of.

It's really a shame the game industry is the way it is.

>>996692
The game takes around forty hours to beat; you spend maybe a quarter of that in areas with the night/day cycle. A day lasts two and a half minutes.

>>996552
They had to be 100% blatant that no, this thing was not an enemy. That meant going so far as to make them not react anything remotely like any other enemy in the entire game to any normal stimuli (ie. what you listed with the sword and bomb) and even make them give you advice from your attacks. Hell, in that way, they were even distanced from NPCs in the game.

Those stones were just meant to be really different from everything else in the game, and thus be a memorable element of the game.

>>996567
Where is this supposed to be? What game, furthermore?

>>996594
Oftentimes in design, you simply lack the time to fix old stuff. Thus instead you try to smooth things over as much as possible and get through it.

Frankly, I think that OoT had this amplified because of how much time went into it, and because of how fast-paced and prolific development was for it and for games at the time. It was in development from before the N64 was out until two years after it released. That's enough time to do some crazy amounts of stuff.

>>996648
That reminds me of a Minecraft map I played during indev that had a sizable sewer system to it. The whole game was a very restrictive adventure game, and torches were extremely limited, so you basically had to navigate this extremely dark sewer, full of twists and turns, by slowly placing a torch ahead and a torch behind, and hoping you didn't get mobbed by enemies. It was nope central, and I'd love to see more of that in other games. Redead sewers?

>>996717
Optional Snow Dungeon that suddenly appears in Hyrule Field after winter comes and you beat the game. that would be pretty sweet.

>>996745
I think the weather thing is a bit too pointless, but putting a dungeon in the field would be awesome.
Maybe something that explains those GIANT FUCKING SPINNING PLANT THINGS.
...WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE

>>996731
I never would have guessed. Never seemed like it.

>>996761
Peahats!

>>996741
There's a PS1 game called Hell Night (I think Dark Messiah is the Japanese title) that'd be right up your alley.

Basically, you're in a Japanese underground sewer/tunnel system, trying to collect items and solve puzzles to escape. The entire time, you'll be chased by a giant monster. You have no weapons, and you can't kill it.

>>996778
Jesus christ how horrifying.

I'll just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0t7-Ks10Dc

>>996778

I FUCKING LOVE HELL NIGHT. i only found out about it maybe a year ago and it became an instant favorite.

imagine 999 meets king's field meets resident evil. it's like that.

>>996638 again

Time to get working on that fuckin' snow dungeon.

How do Zelda/Mario romhacks work on a flashcart on a real N64? Sounds like a hobby, this.

Also, are there romhacking tools for other N64 games?

>>996858

>How do Zelda/Mario romhacks work on a flashcart on a real N64? Sounds like a hobby, this.

The console reads the ROM off of an SD card by way of some software and hardware that converts or translates the ROM into such a state that the console can read it as if it were an actual ROM. I don't know much about the details, but that's the very broad strokes of it.

>Also, are there romhacking tools for other N64 games?

Probably, I wouldn't know because I don't play romhacks or hack myself. If there are any, romhacking.net would have them.

>>993838

When I was a kid I got an Xploder(?) cheat cartridge and went through all the game I had beaten to fuck around. Goemon, Goldeneye etc.

When I played Zelda I used a levitation cheat thing and explored all kinds of places as child link.

I found the triforce, it is above Hyrule Castle.
After Zelda tells you about the history of Hyrule and stuff and shows the three goddesses explode at a point in the sky to make the triforce, in the room where you see Ganondorf looking tasty as fuck through the window, levitate out of the room and the Triforce is somewhere above. I found it accidentally when trying to get to G-Dorf and stab him.

I know it's just something kept in memory to be quickly loaded for the cutscene, I just like how it happens to be in a place where Link/Zelda/GDorf are at the same point in time, what with each of them representing one part of it.

Of course, this made me "that kid" at school until I showed my friend.

>>996548
>Jadusable (yeah I spelled it wrong but you know what I mean)
No I'm pretty sure you spelled that right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajGiwVGO9ZU

This was my inspiration to make the snow dungeon.

I'm thinking about making the entrance on the south edge of Lake Hylia.

Also (and this might be the more difficult bit) adding an ice/snow tunic (think the fourth color from Smash 64) would be really neat too.

>>996548
He just turned on a bunch of gameshark codes

>>996867
Well goddamn, I think that's the first-ever legit story of the Triforce actually in the game! Nice story, anon (for real). I wonder if I could glitch to see it without a cheat cartridge.

Bump to keep this from dying. So it sounds like we got some peeps making some Rom hacks? Sweet.

>>999089
I've managed to make a test map and inject it. Worked perfectly.

Now comes the creative process....

Speaking of ROM hacks, has anyone here tried Zelda's Birthday. It's a pretty good mod of the game even if it's short.

Hasn't every single solitary bit of data in OoT been thoroughly explored? There are no possible secrets.

>>999572
Yeah, there's only 32 megabytes of data after all. We're still discovering how some data works in the game when it's manipulated with unusual gameplay, like how shield sliding was discovered in the mid-2000s and how wrong warp glitching was discovered last year.

>>999532
With a title that sounds like it came straight from fanfiction.net I avoided it like the plague. Are you saying it's actually not worthless?

>Dear Link:
>Please come to the castle. I've baked a cake for you.
>Yours truly--
>Princess Zelda - Sheik.

>>999572
>implying no hidden/encrypted data within the rom, perhaps data that can only be accessed using undocumented opcodes/microcodes that the game could utilize

>>999572

I still believe the triforce is in there somewhere. It's in there.

>>999572

Pretty much. The Arwing discovery was almost ten years ago, and I think all they've found since is some rooms from the beta stage of development

Im hoping some niggas make some sweet fucking mini dungeons to replace underground grottos. One cave and a chest is lame. also someone needs to raise the prices of everything in game so that ruppees are worth something

Holy crap all this time I thought the arwing was an April Fools' joke.

>>999532
I tried. I tried streaming it and people had a hissy fit. Never gave it another try, completely forgot about it in fact. I think I may still have it too, I'll give it another shot.

>>1001381
I'd rather just play some new custom dungeons than see someone patch new stuff into the old game. But I suppose both will probably be done.

>>1001381

Patch a more versatile jump function in and do a Zelda II-like platformer.

I've always wanted to do a ROMhack of Link's Awakening (or Oracles) that was purely Z2-style sidescroller too.

>thinking there are any secrets left

People have scoured each and every fucking inch of the data.

The beta/alpha versions are locked the fuck away.

>>1001424
Actually, there is a debug version that was dumped and has some interesting stuff not in the final.

>>1001326
>The Arwing discovery was almost ten years ago

Jesus, has it been that long?

>go on google
>it was discovered about this time eight years ago

Time fucking FLIES.

>>1001428
link? I love looking at game beta's

captcha: lordship gamnon

>>1001480
http://tcrf.net/Proto:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time

>>1001398
In the entire franchise, the one thing I never really cared for was the dungeons. I was a tad disappointed with Master Quest on the Gamecube because the only changes were re-arranged dungeons. There were no new things to discover in the overworld, and roaming the overworld is my favorite part of a Zelda game.

>>1002671
While the overworld and NPC's are probably my favorite part too, I think good dungeon design is much more likely to be done well by third parties.

>>1002671
To me adventure games always appealed to me not because of what was actually in the game, but the amount of fun I had imagining what will come next. Just getting so excited and wrapped up in my own imagination and the world of the game.
It was incredible.

It's hard for me to get excited by games like that anymore. Now it's all competitive.

Ocarina of Time has aged pretty good graphically.

>>1005678
The character models are notably uglier. But even that gives them a bit more personality.

This is pretty cool

http://youtu.be/xRTH6rBOGwo

>>1005678

I agree. I don't get why people always say the graphics have aged like shit. I think they look quite nice, and in some instances (Fire Temple, Ice Cavern, Fairy Fountains) they can look very good.

>>1005678

>>1005707
Well isn't it usually the fan of a different Zelda that says that?

>>1005804
I'd wager, yes. There are quite a few people entrenched in 2D Zeldas.

>>1005707
A friend of mine last year dismissed Twilight Princess because it didn't look up to part graphically with other next-gen games of its time.

I'm still like wut.

>>1005678
I agree wholeheartedly.

>>1005678
Keep in mind that is an emulator shot, which makes the game look much better than it actually should due to the much higher resolution, improved filtering, and anti-aliasing. On real hardware, it doesn't fare as well.

>>993846
it is.. idk where but it is

>>995050
yes you can!
lrn2 stop n' swop fggt

>>995630
a church, a stalfos boss fight was supposed to occur. Two regular sized ones then one big one I think.

>>996569
Not him, but, I have the actual game but can't play it due to not having an Expansion Pak.

I once borrowed DK64 from a friend and borrowed his Expansion Pak with it, and I played around in MM with it, but I was a scrub who couldn't figure out where to go I couldn't beat Dodongo's Cavern until I was 10 or so so I just messed around in Clock Town.

I think my Dad's house has an N64 with an Expansion Pak and DK64; I might have to see if I can take it since I know it's just sitting there collecting dust if it hasn't been sold.

>>995816
I got the ice key with the gameshark too. According to Rare if you cheat to get it, it can never be removed from your game ever. It's there permanently. Starting a new game does not remove it.

Now, knowing Rare's penchant for epic bullshit, I'm guessing that if I pull the battery in my cartridge it will totally erase everything and reset the ice key. I have not tried it yet though.

>>995696
Does anyone have a video of this?

>>1005983
>Dodongo's Cavern
>Majora's Mask

>>1006214

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M7IINwTFVw

This is a speedrun of OoT done at a charity event. The guy explains it pretty well. Go to around 14 minutes if you wanna see it then

>>1002671
I'm sort of the same way. The only thing that would excite me about dungeons is possibly finding an item that would let me explore more of the overworld.

>exploring overworld
>see some obstacle that I can't move past
>keep it in mind the whole time
>go in to dungeon
>suddenly, find an item
>mfw I realize that it's exactly what I need to go past that obstacle in the overworld

Link's Awakening had that effect on me the most.

>>1006251
Thunk ya

>>1006276
Yep, that's it, pretty much. The only reason I decided to head for the Spirit Temple when I picked up OoT the other day was so I could go through the Haunted Wasteland.

Spirit Temple ain't so bad, though. Every now and then I can really dig a dungeon for its atmosphere and creativity (not retro, but the Snowpeak Ruins in Twilight Princess is like the best example of this. I want to see more dungeons incorporated like that someday).

>>1006763

I always thought Spirit Temple had a really amazing atmosphere. It just has that really "edge of the world" feeling, and it feels like you really are in an ancient place.

All the dungeons in OoT had great atmospheres, it's why I like the game so much.

>>995829
All of these tools yet only one romhack has been
finished and released: "OOT: Zelda's Birthday."

>>1006767
My favourite for atmosphere was the Forest Temple, I always felt so comfortable their in opposition to other dungeons.

>>996939

You could always get a ROM, I'm pretty sure Project 64 has a cheat function thing.

Forgive me if PJ64 is beyond dated, I haven't emulated N64 games in about 8 years.

>>1006767
Yup. By "Spirit Temple ain't so bad" I was meaning it kind of is fucking awesome, haha. The music, especially. I also like how it's split up, where you get a breather and get to talk to the owl again and see Nabooru get captured. Feels a lot more like a proper adventure into an unknown place rather than just another "level."

I think Forest Temple definitely wins out for atmosphere, though (hell, everybody probably agrees with that).

>>1006768
>>1006775
I've been considering it more and more, and I'm really interested in Zelda's Birthday. Though I hate playing games on my laptop (I stare at its screen enough as it is). As my personal work computer loaded with Adobe Creative Suite and some other software, how much is an N64 emulator going to bog me down?

>>1006769
>>1006779

Forest Temple is just amazing. Walking into it is one of my favorite gaming moments. It feels like such a step up from what the game was like before. It's like the game is saying "okay, now things get real".

There's that crazy good music, and the fact that it has a cool outside courtyard. What's really cool is that the temple resembles a castle; if you look outside, the walls definitely look like it.

So I've been googling OoT like crazy and I discovered this today. It's from the Zelda Universe forums:

>okay, i need some help. i am looking for anyone who still has an original copy of ocarina of time versions 1.0 or 1.1. Back years ago, when i still had a hard copy of the game (which i think was a 1.1) i remember a glitch I encountered. It was the first time i play OoT, and i started up my game. After the intro to the game, without having a clue what to do, i think i remember going outside of the tree house, not talking to anyone, picking up no rupees, and headed straight to the lost woods. While entering, going to the area with the bullseye hanging from the tree in the woods I encountered twinrova. After all these years, i am curious to see if anyone else has encountered this glitch. it is unfortunate i do not own my n64 anymore or a hard copy of the game. please, anyone it would be greatly appreciated if you could help find this for me. thank you

I don't know if he's bullshitting or not but I kinda want to go home and try this right away.

>>996819
it's basically like a slenderman game but made 15 years ago by competent people

To keep the OoT Hyrule discussion alive, does anybody have any particular memory of finding an easter egg/secret in the game? (i.e., favorite secret you have found).

I remember freaking the fuck out when I found the Hylian Loach. Right after I found it I got a call from my parents saying they'd be late home from work because they got in a little fender-bender on the icy roads. They said they were okay, but my dad's car got dinged up. I was like, okay...

But the. Fucking. Hylian. Loach.

>>1007039
That almost sounds like he's confusing the lost woods in OoT with MM, because you encounter the twinrova witch in the swamp woods.

>>1007669
Here's the thread, it's within the last couple of posts. The guy confirms it's not MM.
http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/nes-snes-n64-zelda/105150-official-nes-snes-n64-zelda-glitch-thread-9.html

I think he's Joshin' them, but I'll still snoop around. I'm pretty sure you can't get into the Lost Woods before going inside the Deku Tree, though.

>>1007708
>I'm pretty sure you can't get into the Lost Woods before going inside the Deku Tree, though.
Can't you? I seem to remember being able to do it.

>>1007739
It's been forever but I'm not sure. 'Kinda assumed one of the Kokori would be blocking it.

>>1007740
I have vague memories of being swordless in the Woods.

>>1007708
>>1007740

Nah, you can get into the Lost Woods immediately after the introduction. You can't really do much though, obviously.

>>1007832
Off to hunt for Twin Rova, then!

>>1006242
He's saying that he wasn't good enough to beat Dodongo's Cavern in OOT as a reference point.

>>1000000

>>1008309
'Daaaw

>>1008321

>>1008370
Oh dear, it's going there...

>>1007925
No Twin Rova. Darn.

>>996725
>I'd recommend putting a hidden lens of truth alcove in the temple of time, or something similar.

I'd always hoped that there's be something like that, or at least something that would allow you to access the inside of Hyrule Castle. Either way, there should be way more uses for things like the hover boots, mirror shield and lens hidden in obscure places along with hidden battle challenges that test you at late game.

>>1005952
and framerate.

>>1008370
In retrospect I'm actually kind of surprised they didn't feel it necessary to put her in some kind of elaborate swimsuit for that remake. Good for them for not needlessly censoring.

I dislike this temple quite a bit but this room is gorgeous.

Random image I had in my screenshot folder.

>>1011771
my feelings exactly

>>1005678
The power of good art direction.

>>1011775
Looks like he's getting down to a groove, haha.

>>1005678

Games don't age. It looks just as good as it did on release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3HT0--ieUY

Cosmo got the new speedrun world record, it kind of fits with the topic here
it is really cool to see

The character models in Ocarina of Time kind of remind me of Playmobil toys.

>>1012034

It is the new record, but its important to know that its on the Chinese iQue, which is about 12 seconds faster than the VC. So, gameplay wise, it's worse than the previous record of 19:20.

>>1012073

i've always loved how the soldiers in oot look

>>1012110
yea he goes into how shaeden played better, cosmo was just faster

>>1012110

do most people even think it should be allowed? its an entirely different console (as opposed to vc which is emulation of the n64 game). and isnt it really hard to get? he probably has no like competition

>>1012034
>that move at 6:20

woah, never seen that before

>>1012126
Why shouldn't it? It's an official port of the game after all. At worst, it should be recognized, but perhaps not compared to the VC times or N64 times or whatever.

>>1011761
Yep, unlike the robed hippo in Link's Awakening.

>>1012135
really? its a pretty standard speed running technique.

>>1012236

i meant in that specific location

usually they slide off the fence on top of the hill

>>1012238
ahh.

>>1012126
It isnt that hard to get tbh, runs about 90$ pretty often

>>1005678
dude how do you get a 1080p OoT?

>>1012376
answer please

>>1012407
>>1012376

Emulation.

>>1012428
You mean i can download a regular/standar OoT ROM and get him 1080 just by configuring my emulator? or i need to patch or download an specific version?

>>1012490
depends on your emulator. Some support any resolution you choose.

>>994648
>http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/

Thats were my internet ventures began. The community that was established on the message board still exists as a tight knit group of grown men and women. Kinda cool.

And yeah, video gamer x is a nutjob

This is somewhat related. Here's a link to the code of some shitty Tetris game for the N64. The guy who wrote it hid a rant in it. He died a couple years later, so knowing that this may have been the last significant thing he did in his life is pretty interesting.
http://home.comcast.net/~zphreak/Tetris.txt

>>1013514
This guy kinda comes off as a little douchey...

Anyways, I just played a little bit of Oot and came across a hilariously creepy situation that I'm not sure was intentional.

I picked up in my mostly-completed game. Didn't want to dungeon crawl so I went 'splorin'. Decided to race Dampe's ghost.

After my price, I went through the door, but instead of climbing the ramp into the windmill, I looked around (I'll be honest, I wanted to see if I'd catch a glimpse of the fabled El Puerco).

For the hell of it I played the Song of Storms to see if the windmill guy would shout from the other room or something neat like that. Nothing extraordinary happened, so I continued into the next room: the windmill.

The cave music from Dampe's area was still playing; it didn't carry over into the windmill theme. And the phonograph dude was cranking away furiously, as usual, his eyes all evil rage.

And no windmill music. Just the ambient cave soundtrack. And the cranking of the phonograph. It was a bit... unsettling, haha.

I don't recall that happening before... doesn't the windmill theme always pick up when you enter from the grave passage?

>>1013904

im going to test this right now

>>1013916
wow, it actually worked for me too. that's really neat. i've never heard of this before

>>1013929
Did you play the Song of Storms before you entered? (I'd try it without, but I'm off to bed!)

>>1013938

Yeah, right after the dampe race while on the stairs

>>1013904
>a little douchey
understatement of the evening

>>1013995
stupid shoutouts were really popular in old games, especially from demoscene guys. this guy seems like a demoscener

>>1014062
Yes, I know. I hereby reaffirm the comment.

This is probably about 9 years ago at this point to the details are fuzzy, but here I go.

One morning I woke up and immediately turned on my N64, itching to play some Zelda. At this point I'd already beaten the game many times before. The file I started was young Link in the well under Kakariko Village, which is creepy to begin with. But as I progressed through the well, I would hear this blaring deep noise that would cut in out of nowhere and then disappear as quickly as it came. It cropped up maybe two times before the third time, where the game screen went completely green with Link's model dropping through the floor and falling while the noise blared. I freaked out, jumped up, and shut off the console. Didn't play any more that week.

>>1014089
Sounds like something I ran into with Majora's Mask.

Basically, what happened is that I was doing a run of the Kafei/Anju sidequest--something I'd never beaten before. I had looked up guides, tried my damndest, worked at the thing for a month, with nothing. Tonight however, I'd managed to beat everything. Literally all that was left was waiting for them to marry in the inn. So I was waiting with Anju, and there's less than a minute on the clock, when suddenly I hear birds fluttering, and the game suddenly shows the Song of Soaring animation (with no music), freezing halfway through it.

I flipped my fucking shit and turned off the console. I was so pissed I didn't play Majora's Mask for several YEARS, and I still haven't beaten the kafei/anju sidequest.

>>1014089
How did you see Link's model dropping through the floor, if the screen was completely green?

>>995862
>>995893
I was going to link the Ura Zelda project but I literally just found out it was cancelled
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/2013/05/fan-made-ura-zelda-project-cancelled/
It's a shame, it had promise
They had the Ice Temple and the entrance to the Light Temple with water reflections and everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJF1mNN3Pqo

>>1013954
Well cool, I found a new glitch! Whoo!

>>1005678
I disagree, maybe in certain areas but overall it needed that remake badly
The textures tried to be gritty and realistic and as a result aged very poorly
Everything was a blur of green/yellow/brown and the horrid texture resolutions did not help
Not to mention the pre-rendered 180p areas and every model being a fucking triangle
Pic related, this would look even worse in forced 1080p like your screen

>>1011761
They gave her a fishbra if it counts

>>1011771
It looks even better in the remake

>>1014115
Ah man that's such a shame. I hadn't played my N64 for a while and started up Majora's Mask, First I noticed my save files were gone, when I started up a new file and watched the beginning, just before I could move Link just died. When he woke up again the music was gone and I could here the sounds from skullkid and Link which you here in the first cutscene and litteraly all my items were ocarina's. I was almost crying at this point.
But when I blew in the cartridge and started up the game again, everything was fine and my save files were back too

>>1014404
>They gave her a fishbra if it counts
What?! They did that shit? (never played or seen much of the 3DS version)

>>996737
http://www.archeage.com/en#index

>>994684
If you're going to do that make an extra copy for me.

>>995862
Zelda's Birthday is pretty good.
Weren't they making a second one too?

>>994648
>that fame-crazed, highly intelligent Ariana chick
People were so nice back then. Now it's basically "If I call someone else intelligent I'm insulting myself" in other words-
Retarded.

>>994429
>tower collapse skip
Have you seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cMoLH5HGPI

>>1014404
Whatever, I still think it's aged great even when not enhanced.

>>1014564
That would have been awesome to trick people with back in the 90s
...I just randomly became really sad that it isn't the 90s anymore.
Oh god. I think I need to go tear up but not actually cry.

>>994648

I know there is someone from Khakain lurking in this thread. Show yourself.

>>1014571
I like how dark Oot becomes after you become adult, and except in the shadow temple and well it doesn't even try too hard to.

I think it's the pallete, MM in comparison used more vivid colors, or maybe just nostalgia.

Random OOT screenshot!
v2

>>1015270
>>1015273
I'm okay with this.

>>1015270

I don't even know where that's supposed to be.

>>1015323
Looks like titties to me.

>>1014413
I've had the exact same glitch happen to me.

I had no hearts so after every cutscene link would die. All items were OoTs and during cutscenes link would randomly switch to fierce diety but he was halfway through the floor. I thought it would be fun to keep playing and see what else would happen but I discovered I could never learn the song of time because I already had the ocarina. After that I blew in the cartridge and everything was fine again. It was quite an unsettling experience.

>>994687
That would be a massive pain in the ass to make for anything except maybe LTTP.

>>1015323
>>1015326
It was just in my screenshot folder, I am not sure where it is.

Obviously, I could probably identify it if I did not have a texture pack installed.

>>1014115
>>1014413
>>1015359
...da fuck?

The Unicorn Fountain is my favorite of the unused elements. It just seems so mystical.

Apparently Zeth somehow found the code for that area in the rom and restored it. Too bad that project's cancelled.

>>1015385
Well there's something creepier about 2D games anyway.

>>1015490

i played this game for years and years throughout my childhood, but never started a new save game.
i just explored the whole time epona and even years after it came out i found stuff.
i bet theres still something outthere to find

>>1015494

>>1015496

>>993838
this place was always so strange, too silent

>>1015512

>>1015501

>>1015515

>>1015523

>>1015518

>>1015504
OP here, I actually didn't recognize the shot when I posted it, lol. Is it in Jabu Jabu's area?

>>1015525

>>1015528

>>1015532

>>1015527
Yes.

>>1015538

>>1015542

>>1015543

>>1015549

>>1015551
All I've got

>>1015539
Ah, I'll have to visit that area again; I rarely go there.

>>1015554
Interesting read.

>>1015554

GOOD STUFF! This is so interesting and the pictures are awesome! thanks for posting all that

>>1015542
>That deku tree
It would have been pure nightmare fodder for kids if that made it to the game.

>>994684
If you do that I would honestly buy one from you.

>>994648
I was fucking addicted with that site as a kid. I remember being obsessed with all the Triforce articles, and starting crying tears of joy when Ariana "found" the Triforce. I felt fucking devastated when they later revealed it was a fake.

>>1015473
> Too bad that project's cancelled.
Yeah, it sucks that it was cancelled considering it was in development for quite a while. It was way too much of an ambitious project for such a small team to tackle.

>>1015359
>>1014413
This sounds like a generic creepypasta

>>1014453
Notice the scale "flaps"
It gets more apparent as an adult
It's a minor change imo

>>1015518
How does he not instantly recognize Dodongo's Cavern
goddamn

>>1015619
It honestly doesn't look much different from the final model other than the nose

>>1016896
>Notice the scale "flaps
Interesting...

>>1014528
>>1015665
Damn, maybe I should!

>>1007660

The loach, the drawings on links house, the mysterious hole above Darunia's throne....I explored the shit out of that game. Back then, I was fascinated by everything because I didn't know what an easter egg was. I thought everything was meaningful.

How many posts does it take for /vr/ threads to start autosaging?

>>1019749
I've never caught that loach. Darned thing is just surrounded by too many other hungry fish.

>>1019902
450 I think.

>>996567

My cousin works for nintendo and he showed me this. It's a 3D remake of Oracle of Seasons that should be coming out next year.
This picture represents the upgraded scale of that little square with the windmill. Every square from the original game will represent an area this large.

>muh crazay hopes and dreams

>>1015839
Zeth said it was only temporary.
But like you were saying, it's a shame we'll never see it.

>>1014359

It even had nice soundtrack to boot

>>1019939
Google image search says you're full of shit.
http://feature.mmosite.c om/archeage/world_map_and_zones.shtml

>>1019997

>>993838
I realize I am incredibly late, but you realize the N64 was not 64-bit, right? It was 32-bit, just like the rest of the Fifth Generation consoles. The sixth and seventh generations were also 32-bit, and we're only now just entering the 64-bit era partially with PS4 and XBone's x86-x64 architectures. And PCs finally being forced into x64 architecture.

>>1015129
When I was a kid and played OOT, I always felt like I was actually growing up, turning into Adult Link. Every single thing, from the attitude of the NPCs to the monsters to the music to even the graphics (particularly the perspective) felt like how an adult should feel - everything all serious with no time for fun, the adventure's over and everyone expects something of you now and you feel emphatically compelled to live up to their expectations.

The game is a masterpiece.

>>1020035
Whaaat? I never knew... so basically Nintendo false-advertised?

>>1020076
I don't think so, no. Some aspect of the Nintendo 64 is 64-bit.

>>1020076
>>1020323
The 16/32/64 etc bit notation isn't really the same thing as computer '32/64' bit processing at all, you can't really compare them. Not that it meant much more than a 'blast processing' style marketing buzzword at the time anyway

>>1020070

The progression from a little Kid to a full on Warrior is pure genious. It's something I always though about OoT. Especially seeing Ruto, Malon and Zelda grow up and the emotional ties just really deepen.

I always wanted to do a Hard Mode hack

It would be pretty similar to 3 heart minimal run, but With actually removed any posibilities of getting any Health inside Dungeons and removed all bottles/fairy fountains/gossip stones/heart containers/Secret spots for big fairies/minor treasure chests and copypaste gottos that contain them and enemy drops. Also remove some major items like deku nuts/sticks/bombs/bomchus/scarecrow/slingshot/shields/gauntlets/scales/hookshot/tunics/ocarina/seeds/spells/elemental arrows/small keys/Big Keys/Map/compass/the minimap/magic/

Basically what you'd have is the boomerang, hammer, bow, sword, heavy and float shoes if possible as selectable items. Effectively eliminating any need for a start/pause button if C up is used as an item placeholder.

This would require some minor boss pattern reworking and changing some swithes around, With Heavy alteration to water temple and some puzzle room since no more hookshotting all over the place.

Rupees aren't going to be a thing neither the skulltulas. Maybe make it a sidequest for the well for infinite arrow refill.

I also wanted to remove some actions and sounds from link like rolling, backflipping/sideflipping and of course make him only make a sound when he takes damage.

Also speed up text, remove some cutscenes related to the triforce and rearange trigger events to not be dependant on the ocarina. Of course remove all text from navi. Also make enemies attack 20% faster. Generally one extra enemy if the engine would handle it, being swarmed by stalfos and lizardos is already challenging, but I Always felt they were too slow to strike.

Generally change the order of the dungeons around, I'm thinking Shadow Temple first and make Kakariko really barren of NPCs, Also remove the clone NPCs like the forest children.

basically really strip the game down of all superfleous shit to bare mechanics and make it feel like a really gritty adventure.

>>995248

>>1013514
Jesus, its like I'm really on /v/

This thread has been great, and lasted so long

does anyone remember cartridge tilting? I hated doing it, the noise was 2spooky

>>996587
Game works fine with that unused stuff in. Removing it would not only take time but could cause glitches, bugs, etc that would take extra time to fix.

>>1001274
I actually would play a game that's like SM64 but set in Hyrule Castle.

>>1022970
Thanks, I'm OP and I'm kinda hella-proud it's still going.

I was always too scared to try cartridge tilting. Less because of the chance of losing my file but more because I didn't want to fuck up my cart forever. I especially don't want to try it on my copy of OoT now; I have one of the original editions (with red Ganon blood and the Muslim chant). Don't want to risk destroying that.

>>1015549
>Comparing a pre-rendered BG to 3d areas.

>>1022970

Yeah, I played around with it when I first read about it on Odyssey. Doing a swordless run and bypassing all the annoying roadblocks was fun. I remember trying to get into water temple without iron boots by using the hoover hookshot from the horse glitch and clipping through from underneath. Entering Fire temple as a child was interesting.