/vr/ - Retro Games

yawn

>>9947348
>without these
>these
you mean without symphony of the night, since before that the franchises were both very different games. in fact, metroid never really changed so drastically so I dont think it affected them much as you think

classicvanias were never good

>>9947357
Super Metroid invented the genre.
SOTN perfected it.
Without these two, the genre wouldn't even exist. This is a completely pointless topic.

>>9947369
>Super Metroid invented the genre
So, not the original Metroid?

"metroidvania" has always been a meaningless bullshit term. they're just fucking 2D action-platformers with places you can't access until finding a certain item. i really don't know how any of this shit is different from 80% of the NES library.

>>9947369
Who gives a shit, you have tons of generic steam indie games that play like this now. go fuck around with that you easily pleased moron

>>9947348
>left hand shaking right hand
yike

>>9947373
exactly, metroid never really turned into a mish mash 'metroidvania' game that altered its gaming DNA like castlevania did, its just metroid. and it has been for a very long time.

>>9947384
i think you might be retarded bro

>>9947348
"Metroidvania" genre should only be called Metroid. it was released BEFORE Castlevania, and therefore Castlevania is a clone of Metroid.

>>9947384
>>9947391
there, i fixed it

>>9947348
>>9947369
SOTN ruined everything. It's so hard to find actual Metroidlikes, they're all tainted with slow movement, melee combat, RPG mechanics, and loot to pander to casuals who want to grind away their time forever instead of enjoying a streamlined experience. Not to mention how much of a fucking chore standard enemies are when you're exploring around. Everywhere is full of flat, uninteresting corridors full of too many enemies that each take too many hits to kill... it's a slog. I wish the -vania half of Metroidvania never happened, it's just Super Metroid except made worse in every possible way.

>>9947393
No, it's called Metroidvania because almost all of them incorporate shitty RPG mechanics and other dumb bullshit from SOTN. That's the -vania part. SOTN plays nothing like Super Metroid and I hate that most people aren't discerning enough to tell the difference.

>>9947403
>>9947406
see>>9947360

>>9947403
>FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER

fuck zoomies

>>9947408
thats not what they're saying though retard

>>9947415
no one cares, shit thread

>>9947409
what are you even talking about

>>9947406
Metroid is not an RPG, never was, never will.
It's a "Wherethefuckdoigo" game with you grabbing randdom powerups to help you progess in a basic open world 2D/3D platformer.

auster-kun style shitposting and it's consequences have been a disaster for the board

>>9947425
Full essay about australia-kun when?

>>9947408
I don't care about Castlevania of any variety, it's not my thing. I played SOTN back in the day because of the comparisons to Super Metroid. To my disappointment, it sucked, and then every ostensibly Metroid-style game after that took more from SOTN than from Metroid and it ruined the entire genre.

>>9947409
Fuck off, I was playing Metroid 1 while you were in diapers. Super Metroid's navigation and momentum-based movement are so much more fun than Castlevania's slow-walk-in-flat-corridors-for-miles-smacking-overly-tanky-enemies style of design.

>>9947430
Sorry, taht's calls to a "flamewar" according to the Mods and we're not even on /v/. Not even memeing. I got warned with that for daring to ask about Auster.

>>9947348
yeah the metroidvania genre would be really great without the metroid or the vania
it'd be an empty title screen with no options on it and no game behind it - just perfect, thanks for sparking this idea OP
let's set up a Kickstarter together to get this miracle game developed

>>9947437
the jannies let him shitpost

You mean Willyboys?

>>9947419
>Metroid is not an RPG, never was, never will.
Yes, that's what's so good about it, did you even read my post before replying? SOTN's RPG mechanics are a big part of why that game is so utterly shitty to play and the fact that nearly every Metroidvania game that came after started incorporating those shitty RPG mechanics is what ruined the genre. Actual Metroidlikes are impossible to find because it's all Metroidvania bullshit infected by SOTN's dumb RPG mechanics.

>>9947437

There's nothing much to ask about. Maybe it was a real person at some point but for as long as I've been seeing the meme resurface (that being a period of years) he's just been a fictional character. It's like calling people zoomers if you dislike them - it's just mindless noise that you need to tune out in order to make use of /vr/.

>>9947443
metroid was never good

>>9947454
Metroid was always good.

>>9947457
inferior to Castlevania

>>9947460
This is some seriously low-effort trolling.

>>9947447
>He moght've been real, but he's not. TRUST me.
I've been through this song and dance on /v/. Your type really need to stop trying to hide your own existence when there's archives of autism showing otherwise.

>>9947467
and OP isn't because?

>>9947460
Inferior to classicvania? Maybe.
Inferior to metroidvania? Fuck no.

*cricket noises*

classicucks should get their own containment thread already

>>9947468
not him but there's clearly more people in this thread. ive seen your autistic australia shit in every thread but i dont see any commonality between any of the people you accuse. you're just a shitposter

>>9947468
>My vague conspiracy theory is true and important and on-topic somehow. TRUST me.

The character you're referring to 100% certainly isn't real. If there were a real person once, yeah sure he's probably still alive somewhere, and he might even be posting here, maybe making multiple threads per day for all I know. But you're not talking about him anymore - you're just playing with silly myths that no longer rely on his actual existence at all. If you care about this crap then you're broken.

SOTN and SCIV are the only good games of this series

>wah wah wah stop exposing me

>>9947494

Get a grip you nutbag. There's nothing important to expose and nobody would much care if it WERE exposed except nuts like you.

>>9947498
your thread is shit

>>9947360
why?

>>9947502

I don't make threads here. I agree that this thread is bad. And yeah my small part of the thread, in which I briefly wrestle with the mentally ill and for no good reason put myself at risk of being temporarily banned, is also not very good. Okay this is my last post on the topic, everybody please return to discussion of how metroidvanias would be better without Metroid or Castlevania, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

>>9947507
the fanbase is annoying

lol SOTN lives in this board head rent free

>>9947438
You realize that both Metroid and Castlevania existed before metroidvania, right?

>>9947510
that has nothing to do with the quality of the games

>>9947517
they are inferior to metroidvanias anyway

>>9947489
>Y-Your just as bad as the shitposter!
Nice scapegoating. Self-reflection is a mother fucker for the insecure to face so I get why you'd redirect it at someone else. This isn't Reddit, so there's no need to bite back about being called the boogeyman.

>>9947519
--> >>9947507

also metroidvanias as a genre aren't retro, you have to go back

>>9947531
explain how classicvanias are good first

>>9947508
Posts like these come off oddly autistic, like the anon just spewed their thought process of justifying their faggotry.

>no new ip
lol sad op

>>9947538
>explain how classicvanias are good first
if you dont understand why well received game franchises have achieved strong fanbases and longevity, then youre the idiot and there is nothing to explain. its a video game, you either like it or not, but that doesnt negate its quality or how great it is.

>>9947538
they are simple, yet challenging, yet fun action games

>>9947550
and yet you are crying over metroidvanias

>>9947538
>"Game is bad!"
>Why?
>"Prove that it's not!"
Burden of proof's a bitch, huh.

>>9947542
That's how you know shitposters like >>9947489 are behind it all. If they really wanted to hide their tracks they could buy several goiym passes and samefag to oblivion.

>>9947560
>and yet you are crying
oh I see, youre just begging for attention. you are a retard.

delete this thread already, lazy faggot

Laughed out of his own thread. Sad.

>>9947542
>>9947578
why would there be new ips this late in the thread

>>9947535
But they are. SM is 1994. SOTN is 1997.

>>9947592
If there is a perfectly valid thread but people come in and fuck it up, their posts should be deleted. Don't throw the whole thread under the water for your mistakes.

>>9947646
see >>9947494

>>9947651
Leave him alone, stop shitposting so hard.

>>9947652
Didn't ask.

>>9947657
STOP IT. STOP BULLYING PEOPLE. THIS THREAD WASNT EVEN BAD. ITS NOT EVEN ABOUT CLASSICVANIA. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>9947659
see >>9947657

>still no new ip

>>9947643
Who care?
>>9947535
Based department

>>9947419
Of course it’s an RPG (role-playing game). You Play the Role of Samus Aran, intergalactic bounty hunter. Did you even play the game, bro?

>>9947438
wouldn’t even be the worst idea for a video game in 2023

tranny thread

>>9947897
why are you going full /v/ in here?

>>9947901
op is a /v/ tard

Admit you are wrong OP and everything is forgotten