/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9803556/#9803715

FORE/VR/ ALONE
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

=== NEWS ===
[5-28] Corruption Cards updated to 5.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/corruption-cards/downloads/corruption-cards-50

[5-27]Combined_Arms Gaiden upgraded to 2.1
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms-gaiden

[5-25] Explore Jam 3 for Quake released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/explore-jam-3.228/

[5-25] 3D scans of Quake 2 toys
https://blake.toys/tags/quake2

[5-24] Aleph One updated
https://alephone.lhowon.org/

[5-23] Nugget Doom updated to 1.14.0
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-1.14.0

[5-23] Woof 11.1.4 released, Mac/MIDI support improvements and bugfixes for Dehacked
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.4

[5-22] "Bring Your Own Class" Zandronum mod release
https://revenatn.itch.io/byoc

[5-18] Chasm: The Rift's re-release gets a major update and console release
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2061230/view/3730712991560569024

[5-17] Anon releases map for waifu project
https://gofile.io/d/B3qNZm

[5-10] New Hexen II map using Shadows of Chaos mod
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62245

[5-9] Base Ganymede added into the list of DOOM re-releases' add-ons
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/1qqid5FOihJAll7ANpuKhd

[5-7] New Doom II RPG Port available
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135602

[5-5] Quofee 2 released : 132 vanilla Quake speedmaps
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quoffee2_final.html

[5-4] Woof! 11.0 released with many new features
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.0.0

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Anchor post for waifu doom project
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

oh noes

>>9941303
In light of a few anons saying they're not going to make it (including myself after being sick for a week) I'll just take the currently worked on maps whenever they come in, and put up test builds until they seem suitable for release.
No more deadlines, it just happens when it happens (or it doesn't).

Anyone have recommendations for a good NPC mods that would introduce different scifi soldiers etc as enemies? I started Uighur Zenith and it's looking really good but the standard Doom enemies are a bit boring with it.

>>9941727
Rampancy or the DRLA monster mod on the mechanical setting.

That said, monster mods might fuck up DBP maps, a lot do stuff like using dehacked fucked with versions of the nazis as environmental effects.

At what point should I start worrying

>>9941760
About pic related, I'm already concerned about my dementia what with constantly forgetting to attach a fucking picture

>>9941761
At about 7 times as many sidedefs. UDB will actually write them in red. But even at this stage it might still work because sidedefs can be optimized.

>>9941727
Malefactors hitscanners wear helmets and spout the pseudo-slavic gibberish from E.Y.E but other than that it's the normal demons with sillier sounds and charge attacks, I still use it by default
Neocore makes every enemy except cacos, pain elementals, and bosses mutant soldiers but it's not balanced for pistol start and the weapons aren't great

>>9941738
I thought Yholl was pretty good about not fucking with nazis and keens, at least rampancy doesn't

>>9941761
Nice, my count is this high thus far.

>>9941716
>full ones, half style, tech meat
Shitpost Nukem one-liner

>>9941671
Walpurgis 0.98 is out
https://youtu.be/ieMJf-BHTv4

>>9941694
what wad

>>9941806
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/kdikdizd

>>9941762
>At about 7 times as many sidedefs. UDB will actually write them in red. But even at this stage it might still work because sidedefs can be optimized.
Oh, well fuck yeah in that case. I'm still doing the basic structure, besides a couple of places for fun (pic related) I've yet to start any proper detailing.
>>9941780
Damn, I have to catch up.

>>9941809
very good wad

>>9941720
Hope you're feeling better, VR Anon. Screenshot looks nice and gloomy. Interested to see how the Shub's Wager redux plays out.

>>9941809
oh nice, i should play this past map 1. it was actually super impressive.
great technical skill + stuff bordering on doomcute (like the camera feed near the start of the first map)

>>9941818
I'm mostly better, just still feel like sleeping all day.
The redux is very open-ended with a lot of incentive to explore and fully prepare yourself for the arena fight. I just hope its not to the point of monotony or feeling like secrets are 'mandatory'.

>>9941876
>that little cliffside structure in the top-left
>the scenic facade in the lower-right
Aw yeah, that's the secret sauce.
Take your time, and keep up the good work. Also, remember to hydrate.

>>9941330
demo on glboom+
https://files.catbox.moe/ke8jvv.lmp

Really cool map, its all pretty cool other than the hitscanner hallway fight, fuck that.
other than that I did not wake Madotsuki: I'm pretty sure this is a bug but if it is intentional, well done. If you never attack in the hub area many of the fights are a bit easier due to certain monsters not waking up, personally i would leave it in for being pretty flavorful,

I'm curious about opinions on secrets in Doom maps. Should weapons like the plasma/ rocket launcher/berserk be hidden in secrets or should a map be reaonably tuned to pistol start without them? After going through dtwid on pistol start I'm pretty disgusted by the idea of the combat in a map suffering because I didn't want to take leaps of faith through hurt floors on a map with limited health.

>>9941934
I think map should be beatable without them. I see secrets as primarily to help to beat maps saveless, while secretless playthrough has a tight margin.

>>9941934
>Should weapons like the plasma/ rocket launcher/berserk be hidden in secrets or should a map be reaonably tuned to pistol start without them?
Both. But a good map needs to have enough non-secret rocket launcher and/or plasma to be satisfying. Simply placing big cell packs in secrets is also good while otherwise giving the plasma gun for free. Secrets are good for handing out powerful ammo in general.

>>9941945
Yeah, the best secrets are those that recharge the player's health/ammo/armor in a more-or-less significant/noticeable way, as opposed to just picking up small scraps of resources around the the rest of the map.

>>9941738
>>9941776
Okay, thanks both!
>nazis living in the walls rent free

Oh, is there available the 2048 Guns with pistol like this but not needing to reload? Even if it's the vanilla pistol fire rate ? Or is it doable for a newb to edit one's self?

>>9941945
My breaking point is shotgunning barons because I missed a secret. I'm bringing it on my self by pistol starting blind but that's just tedious.

>>9941901
Thanks for the feedback/demo
>hitscanner hallway fight
I might rework that since everyone complains about it
>certain monsters not waking up
That's unintentional. I'll probably fix it for the side-areas, but I might keep the effect for the center area/final fight.

>>9941934
>Should weapons like the plasma/ rocket launcher/berserk be hidden in secrets or should a map be reaonably tuned to pistol start without them?
These questions sound incongruous to me. If a map is designed around using the RL/Plaz/Zerk, then it shouldn't be a secret. Personally, I've put secret weapons near the start in maps that have them "mandatory" later on. It really depends on the context of the map in specific.
Another example might be if a mapset is meant to be played continuous. Courtesy dictates that you make all the maps playable pistol start, but you could reasonably make maps that demand a player have certain weapons from previous maps, while still hiding a strong weapon in a secret to accommodate pistol starters who are hell-bent on single-segmenting the map.

>>9941330
UV, recorded on Nugget (works fine on dsda)
https://files.catbox.moe/sdk51a.lmp
Surprisingly I only died once despite it being a relatively tough map

I'm giving it a high chance this is gonna be the best map on the project, it's really good. I liked the hallway fight especially (apparently its unpopular haha). So much combat on a very small portion of the map.
I think there's some missing textures on pic related. You can make out the HoM slightly.

Great job anon. Nice blend of surrealism and very tight combat.

>>9941720
>No more deadlines, it just happens when it happens (or it doesn't).
2 more weeks

>>9941761
>>9941780
You are like little babies.
Check this out:

>>9941934
>Should plasma/ rocket launcher/berserk be hidden in secrets or should a map be reasonably tuned to pistol start without them?
I don't know how I feel about balancing a fight with weapons the player hasn't picked up yet, and >>9941971 said everything else better than I could.

>>9941330
damn just saw you included a demo lump of your own in the wad. very cool

>>9941727
I recall one called Mutiny (not to be confused with the mapset)

Which weapon and monster mod would you recommend for doom RPG? I was thinking about RL arsenal but it might be too much at once and as for the monster mods all i know is that i tried colorful hell once and got 2 orange and 2 white monsters on the same early map and never used that mod again

>>9941976
Thanks
I forgot to test it on software rendering, which apparently does the sky transfer stuff differently
>I liked the hallway fight especially (apparently its unpopular haha).
I guess I'll just add more stimpacks or something

>>9942007
If I can't single-segment my map without secrets, it's probably too hard

>>9942102
I am a doom scrub but surprisingly, the hallway fight wasn't the one that gave me trouble, I managed it first try, even if I left barely alive, but it kept me on edge. Just spam chaingun.
The starting area was what gave me an embarrassing amount of trouble and the archvile fight, until I realized that you can walk over the structure in the middle.

>>9942080
If you're afraid of doomRPG being too much at once, it will, it's a damn rabbit hole

>>9942080
You get really overpowered with just DRLA and DRLAX by themselves so it shouldn't be too hard.

Someone please tell me where this is from
>>9940950
It looks fantastic

someday I will finish my first map

>>9942249
nice wooden techbase.

What are some good Heretic mods that extend the enemy roster?

>I should really finish doing the main structure of my map to make sure it's traversable
>OR

>>9941716
Who could it be?

>>9941780
So I'm re-doing my Curly wad, I had a better idea and the current layout wouldn't work for it.
The Agony

>>9942398
>Grasstown turns into Sand Zone
How apropos. Godspeed on the redux.

>>9942389
K*g*n.

>>9942441
I can barely run my own projects sometimes, let alone a community.
I'm still sweating bullets about how to best improve Kustam. And I'm still not happy with the damn throwing axe for Blaz, hell I lost sleep over it this morning.

>>9942241
Looks like Don't Turn Your Back on the City

I have done it, i finally took the plunge and cleaned up my mod folder, from 30GB down to 4gb

now i can actually start playing instead of spending hours agonizing on what to choose

Is it normal for doom builder to start giving out node building errors when saving once your maps get big enough, or should I be concerned

I recall reading a post saying we're allowed to use custom monsters for FORE/VR/ ALONE
I just need to use one, but I should ask if that's fine.

>>9942530
>custom monsters
We can use up to 5 custom textures (patches?), but I don't recall anything about custom monsters.

Can I do custom weapons and enemies in UDB or do I need to use Slade for that?

>>9942551
You can't add custom assets into a wad via UDB. You need SLADE.

>>9942554
Thanks anon

>>9942543
I don't remember the exact post, or the wording, but it was someone asking if they could add custom sprites, I believe, and the organizer saying so long as it doesn't affect other's wads it's fine.
But I wanted to make sure, so hopefully the organizer says sure or whatever.
I'd reskin, and change the audio, for this if you're curious.

>>9942446
This is exactly what the mastermind would say to throw off suspicion.

>>9942530
>some madman submits a map where you kill his custom monster waifu at the end

Is Doom Wads the only worthwhile youtube channel that showcases wads? Or is there more?

okay, here's my first doom map, I was tired on working on it, so it's "unfinished". I kept redoing areas, and I thought this wasn't going to get me anywhere so fuck it. Most of the areas I added monsters to test how they would work, I didn't really thought it out. As I said, it's playable but pretty bad and I hate it. Let me know if it's worth finishing, or I should start with a new idea. I was inspired by the first quake 2 level for this one

https://files.catbox.moe/6n441n.wad

Gotta say, this is REALLY fun. I haven't been playing games for like a week.

>>9942759
I cant open the blue door :(

>>9942472
Not even close but good wad
>>9942241
Stylistically it looks like it was made by the guy that made valiant and ancient aliens

vkquake bros... it's over

>>9942776
what happened here

>>9942759
I like the aesthetics of the outdoor areas.

>>9942776
graphical glitch with the floors when i went past the doorway

>>9942819
graphical glitch that happened with the floors as soon as i walked past the doorway

>>9941727
funny enough, Freedoom's monster roster feels more at home in AugZen than Doom's

>GZdoom last updated Novemeber
>Chocolate Doom last updated 3 years ago
>pic related last updated 5 years ago
Is Doom dead?

>>9942893
crispy doom updated two months ago.

>>9942893
>GZdoom last updated Novemeber
Imagine ever using non-SVN builds.

It'd be neat if there was a software-rendered port with a setting that lets you change the rendering resolution (could change it to, say: 320, 640, 960, 1280, etc.)

>>9942893
Don't worry anon, there will be another GZDoom update that will somehow makes it run worse.

https://www.youtube.com/@doomwads/videos

>>9942893
The age of GZdoom is over, the time of Woof (and Nugget) has come.

>>9942446
You're cute and smol and therefore a perfect community leader.

>>9942389
Revae.

>>9942525
Based, have you picked something?

>>9943001
Sounds like gzdoom.

>>9941793
I might be the only interested anon here. Last version I played, everyone was OP but the Myrmidon was undertuned or at least it seemed to me. Still fun, just needs balancing.

>>9942527
Use ZDBSP - older stuff like ZenNode is simply not built for stuff way beyond vanilla.

>>9943205
Seems like I'm already using it?

>>9943207
Try using the non-UDMF version (no idea what the actual difference here is), unless of course it's a UDMF map.
You could also try looking for wonky stuff in the node view, sometimes when angled lines cross each other you get tiny sectors that can then lead to bad seg angle stuff and slime trails (visit Doomwiki for further information).
Apart from that, no idea.

>>9943210
It is UDMF. I'll take a look at the node view and see if I can find anything wrong there. Thanks anon.

>>9943212
Sorry, just checked, UDMF doesn't support the node viewer, but if it's UDMF, do you by chance have some .125 grid lines or something like that crossing each other?
Or do you maybe have fucked sectors (non-void sectors that are simply not recognized as sectors).

>>9943218
I'm using the map analysis tool to see if there's any issues. I wish I'd known before I could have used this to get rid of all the missing textures!
Should I worry about non-aligned vertices?

>>9943221
Uh no idea, never had that, but I'd reckon UDMF can handle those.
Are you by chance the Paris catacombs map guy?

>>9943225
I am, yeah.
I shrunk the grid size down to the minimum, hit align - it doesn't seem to have fucked with the geometry at all, and now it saves without errors!

Been playing through Memento Mori 2 with Painslayer mod. Having a blast.

>>9942572
nta, i remember what youre talking about. however what i remember was some anon asking if he could add custom health/ammo/etc sprites for the project to fit the theme. i think project lead was open to it.
obviously changing e.g. rockets with cumjars wouldn't cause any conflicts because they'd be part of the project itself

i don't see how monsters WOULDNT cause conflicts. while trying to look up the thing above, i came across this convo which seems relevant https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9894085

>>9942826
thats pretty crisp

>>9943132
No, i am still organizing in the aftermath, but slowly finishing so to speak

i have realized i had hundreds of mods and maps i would had never played anyways

>>9942770
That's weird, of all the things that should work, maybe is the complevel?

>>9942824
Thanks! coincidently those are the ones I spent probably the most time and the only ones that I actually like

Anyways, I'll keep mappin' I WILL make a good level even if it takes my life

>>9941964
>Or is it doable for a newb to edit one's self?
Kinda, if you just want to make a real quick hacky change for personal use.
Open the wad up in Slade, find the decorate file, and scroll down to where the pistol is. pic related's changes should work

Sgt. Mark IV, you're OUT!!!

>>9943383
You forgot textures in this secret.

>>9943001
Don't lose your hope.
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/issues/37

>tfw just discovered BFA being a thing
why has nobody told me about the definitive way to play the original doom trilogy before???

>>9943412
actually, that led to a room with a chainsaw which I scrapped and never revisited

https://www.moddb.com/mods/classic-rbdoom-3-bfg-edition/addons/sigil-bfg

can anybody help me with this? basically i followed the guide in the comment, and SIGIL loads fine, but i would like have the original ULTIMATE DOOM main menu bg/music, with sigil being the 5th episode. i know dsda does this automatically if you put sigil wad in the main folder.

is there a way to simply edit the 2kb sigil_bfa.was or something?

>>9943439
like removing some lines here? i never edited a was so i'm not sure if i'll break something

>>9943408
>BD Drama always triggered my autism because most people on both sides get it wrong
>Suddenly, Midnight does a video about it

>>9942572
>>9943346
>i remember some anon asking if he could add custom health/ammo/etc sprites for the project to fit the theme.
found it
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9895870

>>9943408
Wasn't this already known about like years ago?

>>9943408
When I saw this thumbnsil I assumed it's satire. Is it not?

>>9943445
>>9943439
i'm noticing that it's also with doom 2, where nrftl's titlepic overwrites the original one. is there an easy way to fix this?

>>9942530
>>9942572
I think there was a misunderstanding somewhere :

-OlgaAnon asked if he could change some monsters for his map without affecting other map of the wad. This is not possible without making custom copies of enemies, and this is outside the scope of this wad.
-Some anon asked if he could make some custom sprites themed around waifu for the wad (think 400minutes HUD & berserk, or those PJ armor sprites). I said yes, if those were themed around waifus in general, and not his or Blaz in particular.
-I allowed customs MIDIs (and who wouldn't) as well as up to 5 customs textures related to your waifu to be added to your map (and thus, the wad). This doesn't include any sprites, monsters, sounds, weapons, etc.

>>9943452
>Midnight of all people having the most neutral opinion, and actually accepting the fact it's a known practice in the art world to reference real-gore.
I mean I don't, I don't even reference stuff for my nude art I draw.
>It's just standard YouTuber clickbait, but the actual video is about how we shouldn't hold the past against people for their past mistakes after 10 years.
Holy fuck hell has frozen over.

>>9943481
>This is not possible without making custom copies of enemies
So am I allowed to add custom enemies?

>>9943479
>>9943439
>>9943445
i guess i just have to make a wad with only the original titlepic and music and load it for last? is making an empty wad with TITLEPIC enough? what about the music?

>>9943408
midnight and sgtmark are an interesting combination when you think about it
because mark has the more controversial personality but he also technically made more interesting content that requries actual effort even if he's notorious for some bugs and decisions
whereas midnight feels so "fake" and makes basic clickbait content and the people that watch him have to pretend he has charisma
it's like comparion someone who does edgy flash animations with good motion that have racist jokes vs a guy with an uncanny "nice" personality that makes lazy reaction videos
sgtmark is like a man that was raised in a jungle for years and when brought into civilization, he bites of someone's arm because he wasn't aware it's not a normal thing to do
midnight is a human clone/homonculus born in a lab created by lizard meant to mimic humans and present a friendly personality but people get the same reaction as they do towards mark zuckerberg

>>9943485
>>9943479
>>9943445
>>9943439
ok, it worked, but i don't know know how to replace the music. please help

>>9943489
>sgtmark is like a man that was raised in a jungle
Well he is Brazilian.

>>9943498
i didn't even think of that

>>9943483
>This is not possible without making custom copies of enemies, and this is outside the scope of this wad.
>this is outside the scope of this wad.

>>9943520
to be fair i think in programming (idk im not a code tranny) "out of scope" means "we won't be assed into doing this", so maybe anon takes that as "so if i wanted to i could"

>>9943520
I'm not very smart when I wake up.

>>9941671
dsda-doom 0.26 available
https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom/blob/master/patch_notes/v0.26.md


> beta udmf support
> zip file loading
> level table progress tracking
> extended hud configuration
> indexed light mode fixes
> improved heretic and hexen support

>>9943552
>> beta udmf support
Interesting. What exactly does it support?

At a guess - I'm maybe 1/5-1/4 of the way done. Close to finishing a third of the map, at least landscaping and texture-wise (though I'll probably have to come back to it later to make some paths more distinctive).
I keep getting distracted by doing bits of doomcute here and there, but I guess it all has to be done at some point. I was probably stupid to make my second ever map this big but, you know, fuck it

>>9943579
https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom/blob/master/docs/udmf.md
https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom/blob/master/docs/doom_in_hexen.md

what is UDMF exactly? wiki says its "a specification for laying out maps in a textual way. It is essentially a new map format for Doom engine based games."
but as a brainlet this doesnt mean much to me. what does it actually do? is it just a backend thing?
t. retard

>>9943609
it allows for a whole slew of new ways to make maps in Doom, like fake 3d floors, linedef portals (f.e. myhouse.wad uses this heavily), sloped surfaces, any texture on any face, etc
but the downside is that not all ports supports this dark magic

>>9943617
>but the downside is that not all ports supports this dark magic
thats funny considering this has apparently been around since 2008

>>9942241
30 seconds with reverse image search
https://twitter.com/KevinMartins/status/1549862571662102528

>>9943617
>"universal" doom map format
>only a handful of ports implement it
>they don't even all support the same featureset

>>9943552
>Level Table
I can't believe he did something actually cool. Even though I already have Doom Launcher for this stuff, it's really neat.

>half way through sigil
I have been deceived about the difficulty

are there any wads that fix secrets in e4?

>>9943649
In what way? Too hard or too easy?

>>9943627
nta but what search engine did you use?

>>9943631
Maybe the idea is actually that its universal because you can make Doom, Heretic, Hexen, + Strife maps with it and mix & match features

>>9943609
It's the ZDoom map format. It allows for stuff like slopes, being able to align flats, using regular textures as flats, stuff like that.

>>9943671
nta but yandex images
google images has been useless liquid shit for at least 2 years already

>>9943687
>yandex images
i actually tried it but it couldnt come up with an exact match either. maybe if i had kept scrolling for similar images i wouldve found it

>google images has been useless liquid shit for at least 2
i assume you mean this because of them forcing their lens shit. yeah its pretty horrible. even before lens though google was never as good as yandex except for 100% exact matches. yandex at least recognises what the image is and provides similar ones.
that said you can still use legacy google image search via this plugin, im sure there are other methods as well but this is what i use https://github.com/dessant/search-by-image

>>9943687
>There will never Build Engine shooters inspired by Blaxploitation, Nunsploitation, Spaghetti westerns, Japanese action shlock or Noir movies.

>>9943590
I dont want to be mean but this looks kind of unplayable.

>>9943703
I wonder if a Blaxsploitation game could even be greenlit these days.

>>9943659
Too easy, theres good moments but so far it seems like shotgunning barons is the main challenge but I can dance my way through no problem I hardly feel the need to use rockets other than to end fights quicker

>>9943709
probably not, although Build really is perfect for it

>>9943709
If it doesn't go full Lo Wang yeah, it can be a loving tribute like Black Dynamite was.

>Play retro FPS
>Pick hardest difficulty because I'm not a noob
>Doing well
>Get a crushing feeling of loneliness from playing an fps as if I had something to prove despite having no friends
>Lose interest and quit

>>9943001
dsda in software mode let you do this
also, inter-doom introduced support for 800p/960p a couple of months ago

>>9943709
something like a Shaft or a Cleo Jones fps could probably go ahead with no problems, it just wouldn't sell

>>9943725
>not going full Lo Wang and beyond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyPhsFxnc_c

>>9943590
Protip: Center your map at the center of the grid.
The dimensions of the map are not as important as how far things are away from 0,0.
Definitely do that before joining any sectors.

>>9943705
He's making a replica of the Paris Catacombs, being "playable" is not a concern here.
Sometimes you just do stuff to see if you can do it.

>>9943671
that's odd the twitter pops up on my end

>>9943742
I think if you made it like a proper Build game and treated the setting like its source material it would do alright and it would be able to dodge "woke" criticisms.

>>9942378
>webms you can hear

>>9943745
Man that isn't full Lo Wang hell that song is pretty good.

>>9943756
I just don't think there's much of an overlap between people who are nostalgic for these flicks and people who want to play new Build games. A Shaft game/mod would be really cool though.

>>9943703
>Spaghetti westerns
It really is a shame there are so very few attempts at doing this.

God fucking DAMNIT

>W1 Floor to Lowest Floor working perfectly

>Place a couple of new monsters on said floor, there were already monsters on the floor originally

>Floor no longer lowering, even when I take every single fucking thing off the floor, now I cant get it any of it to work no matter what I do

What the fuck happened? Doom mapping is the most fucking stupid frustrating shit, shit just doesn't work or breaks for no rhyme or reason.

>>9943781
The "1" in W1 means that it's an action that can only be done once. Find a WR action to make it repeatable.

>>9943781
just watch a crusty 360p video where some guy mumbles how to fix it for 15 minutes.

>>9943768
>I just don't think there's much of an overlap between people who are nostalgic for these flicks and people who want to play new Build games.
If it does happen I doubt it'll be through Build, Fury was a fun fluke that still came with its own issues. Maybe someone could whip up an OC and see if the AMC Squad guys will adopt it.

>>9943787
Wow no shit. That's the fucking point. What im saying is placing a few monsters on said sector has completely broken ALL actions going to that sector no matter what action I choose. My only choice is to scrap it all and recreate it.

is there a wad with console levels?

>>9943781
Are you sure you didn't accidentally ctrl+z at some point and undo the sector tag?

>>9943814
yes

>>9943832
link?

>>9943837
google.com

>>9943837
He comes to town.

>>9943809
Well it's not the monsters causing it, but have fun recreating you map anyway.

>>9943842
>>9943847
i google it, all links are either dead or the wads are garbage/downgraded

>>9943408
asshurt jealous crab bucket nigger cattle trying to ruin sgt over stupid shit

>>9943814
>>9943837
You can find it in the OP post in one of the mega links.

>>9943705
You're not being mean at all. I'm making this with HDest in mind first and foremost - I'd agree with you that for classic Doom gameplay it'd probably suck, but with the more 'realistic'/slower fighting in HDest it'll... probably still suck but like >>9943746 said I'm more doing this for myself.
>>9943746
Oh, it's pretty much centred already, that's only part of the map. It's not an exact replica, I've opted to include stuff I think might be cool as well (and I have a third level planned though that probably won't be as big or ambitious, let's see if I can even finish this one first).

>>9943482
It always weirded me out just how much of a hateboner most of the modding community still has for Mark, so much so that a lot still believe he drew some of the more questionably inspired vanilla sprites, somehow.

>>9943865
"fun police" and similar higher ups dislike him (even the wiki lmao) because of his edgy past.
he's apologised for some stuff, but he didnt have to- he's too big to fail due to BD. and they despise him for it.
i dont particularly care for BD but i'm glad he didnt get harassed out of modding unlike some others

ok i found

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom/addons/console-maps-episode-for-doom-1
https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/doom-2-expanded
which is exactly what i was looking for, but it doesn't work with neither unity nor the bfa ports.
is there any way to convert the wad or something?

Why is there a pastebin on the OP when that site hasn't worked correctly in years?

>>9943892
whats wrong with it

>>9943886
Yeah I saw in those leaks that they'd require a huge arse written apology from Mark to even consider forgiving him while they were concocting plans to force the community let off [cancelled mod developer] for infinitely worse shit. It's the same two-faced nature of shit that made me just fuck off from all the development discords and other shit many years back.

>i dont particularly care for BD but i'm glad he didnt get harassed out of modding unlike some others
I'm glad Term's at least still making his own stuff, we'll never likely see him back but he's still doing what he loves.

>>9943895
I can't open it. I haven't been able to use it for quite some time now. Is it a me problem, then?

>>9943908
Probably. Unless you live in TÜRKİYE or some other shithole where its blocked.

>>9943909
It's Brazil, unfortunately. Thanks anyway.

>>9943865
>wants to update BD as opposed to finishing his standalone BD-styled game
Kind of weird, maybe he just wants to go back to playing modded Doom.
>>9943814
There's also this:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298

>>9943921
>Kind of weird, maybe he just wants to go back to playing modded Doom.
You kind of go nuts working on just one thing forever, especially if you feel like something else you've done could be made better.

>>9943781
What if you try with no monsters at all (dead caco symbol when choosing how to play test)
If it works, someone somewhere is stuck in the wall.

>>9943921
>There's also this:
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298
i only want the vanilla console exclusive levels. the ones i linked are perfect but they also keep crashing on doomretro

>>9943886
>>9943901
You know it's kind of funny to me because a lot people I know would probably gladly be a bit more considerate if they didn't feel like they'd be slaughtered for their past or hobbies.
>i dont particularly care for BD but i'm glad he didnt get harassed out of modding unlike some others
Do you remember the discussion around HDoom? God I remember how many people had those small remarks that felt like knives scratching for any room to yell about it.
I always found that insanity odd, especially in the doom community, but I'm glad every day the h-doom imp is just thrown into random wads now to cause agony to those same people.

>>9943734
Jokes on you, now you have to prove to this thread that you can beat whatever game you've been playing.

is "improved hit detection" cheating? talking about woof in particular

Doomworld fags gonna fag, no point in even complaining about it. These types of people just have to get up on their high horse about any little thing they can. And who cares what midnight thinks. I don't use BD but at least it's an actual mod with actual effort put into it. Sgt. Mark is still better than some eceleb, especially that one.

>>9943962
>A cheat or cheating generally refers to either a cheat code that is hard-coded in the engine, or a separate or modified application (often called a hack or cheating hack) that allows a player to play with an unusual advantage.
It's not allowed for demos, but who gives a shit about speedrunning. Unless you consider Woof a "modified application (often called a hack or cheating hack)" it's not cheating.

>>9943962
In the strictest sense, yeah. But it won't matter unless you're recording demos.

>>9943972
i mean how different is it from vanilla? does it "allows a player to play with an unusual advantage" or is it more of a bug fix?

>>9943978
The wording seems to imply that it fixes the blockmap bug.

>>9943978
It's a bug fix that allows a player to play with an unusual advantage. Duh. Just stop giving shit about what other people think and think yourself. You like how original chainsaw hit detection works spoiler, no one on this planet does? Play with it. You want melee combat to be full vanilla? Play with it.

>>9943962
I had to look up what it does. I think it fixes the unintended side effect of the blockmap in which you can miss your shots on enemies if your hitscan doesn't go over the block where the enemy is centred. Pic related.
Watch this video and make up your own mind imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IYz6-KnvWU

It would cause demo compatibility issues except pretty sure Woof would disable this setting if you're recording a demo (maybe unless you have "strict mode" disabled)
In my opinion, its fine 99% of the time. I can't think of any map where an encounter is intentionally placed on the edges between blocks to make hit detection harder on the player.

>>9943986
I'm 94% sure they were aware of the bug and thought it's fine as it is.
Has anyone of original id guys ever commented about it? It's virtually the most famous og engine bug.

>>9943952
>Do you remember the discussion around HDoom
I remember <cancelled mod dev> trying to lead the charge with coming down on hdoom for existing, shortly after that Animal Crossing blowjob companion mod got outed a bit.

It's fucking bizarre because who the shit has Mike12 ever done anything to? Dude just made a lewd mod and got industry work out of it.

is there an easy to make so that i can select master levels, final doom, nrftl from doom 2 new game menu? i'm pretty sure somebody has already did this but i don't know how to search it

>>9943998
basically pic related

>>9943996
>shortly after that Animal Crossing blowjob companion mod got outed a bit.
kek
>I remember <cancelled mod dev> trying to lead the charge with coming down on hdoom for existing
why did she do this, i remember reading about it but i forgot

>>9942826
10/10

>>9943474
>>9943476
>>9943489
>>9943852
The entire video is him defending Mark and Brutal Doom.

>>9943993
>Has anyone of original id guys ever commented about it?
Not that I can think of. They probably just never noticed it when playing because it's frankly pretty rare.

>>9943996
>It's fucking bizarre because who the shit has Mike12 ever done anything to? Dude just made a lewd mod and got industry work out of it.
He made two porn mods, and did it because it appealed to him. That's what doom-modding should be in my opinion, just focus on creating.
See you in three years, anon! HDOOM will be finished soon!
>>9943996
It's usually clout seekers, whom are usually hypocrites. It's funny because what they attempt do is akin to someone who was making Doom deciding Mortal Kombat violence was too much and then trying to get them canceled for said violence. It's usually furries too, which confuses me even more, but I don't want to get into that debate.
>>9944021
And people wonder why I think clickbait titles aren't productive and are bad for future discussion.

>>9943703
>Spaghetti westerns
Outlaws!

>Japanese action shlock
Shadow Warrior!

>Nunsploitation
Elaborate?

>Blaxploitation
I sleep!

Does High Noon Drifter etc have a possibility to create maps using those assets ?

I was theorycrafting that I would like to take a shot at messing around with UDB to create a set of levels after the summer, possibly with a wild west theme with maybe some busty cowgirls hidden somewhere as well.

Somewhat on topic, is Blade of Agony good naziploitation mod / wad? I heard somewhere that before the Fun Police got involved they had like busty female nazi officers and zombie jews in it?

I would definitely love to have some good shlocky 'xploitation film style fun in a variety of settings, but wild west would definitely be a treat.

>>9944032
>because it's frankly pretty rare.
wdym its pretty common. its the reason why the chainsaw misses like quarter of the time.
surely you're not confusing the blockmap bug with the all-ghosts bug (which is blockmap-related and is very rare)

>>9944032
Unless you're using chainsaw, then it's so obvious you want to uninstall the game.

>>9943996
>who the shit has Mike12 ever done anything to?
Everyone who wanted HDoom done has been forced to sit and watch as he's spent more time fucking around on twitter than drawing sprites for like ten goddamned years almost. I have zero respect left for the guy for this exact reason. That being said, nobody sane cares enough to do anything about it, he's just a lazy fag who rode his popularity from being part of Term's group for a while.

>>9944054
For the hitscan guns you're going to be using 90% of the time in the iwads, it's seldom that you'll encounter any sort of serious blockmap bug.

>DBP40
Lots of fun, ends too soon, but it's more maps that fill that 'spooky levels with purple skybox' niche.

>>9944057
Anon let me give you a tip: Never, ever, rely on an artist to fucking finish their work before jumping to another idea.
Term never finished any of his mods, besides hellshots.
Ask an artist, any artist, what ideas they have and they will shower you in details about their OC and setting, their setting and ideas, but ask that same artist to finish any of that and they say: "I need to wait for some motivation to hit me."
>t. Artist that does physical/digital/pixel/3d art.

>>9944039
>It's usually clout seekers, whom are usually hypocrites.
Puts me in mind of the circlejerks I saw where they'd agree that BD has been terrible for the community, which is objectively wrong since it's brought a lot of people into the community, many of them going on to make their own mods or maps or doing anything productive, while those types busied themselves with whining about other people's mods.
>>9944057
Horny people have no rights.
>>9944080
>Term never finished any of his mods, besides hellshots.
Actually Hellshots is the one that didn't get finished, it was going to get an update to add a second course of maps and the hellshots to the game, but then all of the horrible shit happened to the poor dude.

HND and Booster are the ones that are pretty much finished.

>>9944080
Because at start you working on the actual idea, the most exiting part.
The closer to the end the more you're dealing with boring routine that has to be done.

>>9943998
the master levels pwad converter and wadsmoosh exist but they're both zdoom only afaik

>>9944052
Bratwurst puts wolf3d nazis in Doom to deal with with weapons of your choice and Kriegsland specifically uses nazis and weapons from Wolfenstein The New Order

>>9944086
I could've sworn he wanted to update HND with some new content, and Booster as well.
Also I know Demonsteele isn't finished because I'm working on it.
But if what you're saying is true then that's even funnier and proves my point even more.
>>9944087
Luckily for me I'm Asian, I was born to min-max for my autism grind.

>>9944113
>But if what you're saying is true then that's even funnier and proves my point even more.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1093936#p1093936

Some of the maps he'd been working on looked really great too.

>>9944052
>Outlaws!
Outlaws is good but not really Build Engine-y.
>Shadow Warrior!
That's more of homage to old kung fu flicks with a pinch of John Woo, I was referring to the more modern gonzo Japanese action shlock although a FPS inspired by the hot blooded Yakuza flicks of the 70s and 80s would also be rad.
>Nunsploitation
Nuns+Guns=Neat

>>9944052
>Nunsploitation

>>9944124
>>9944137
>>9944052
Honestly sounds like a fun character idea, I might try to draw some sprites for such a concept.

some threads ago, anon asked whether different countries have different mapping styles and stuff. someone said aside from things like the japanese community project, there isnt much "national" content.
well if anon is still here, i've come upon a fr*nch map
>Tangerine Nightmare
>Tangerine Nightmare is a collection of 8 ( credit-map and a bonus one)
limit-removing maps. They were designed by the french doom community,
with all new textures/GFX/flats made by franckFRAG.

>>9944086
>Horny people have no rights.
Then better kiss all the cultural signifficance of both GitS and Appleseed goodbye senpai - because the mad lad known as Masamune Shirow did some really gross ultra-kinky stuff that would honestly render all the coomslop done by the Hedon mod's creator feel almost tame by comparison

>>9944150
I swear there was a mod called Nun with a Gun.

>>9944159
>Then better kiss all the cultural signifficance of both GitS and Appleseed goodbye
Already did, along with Dominion Tank Police.
>Masamune Shirow did some really gross ultra-kinky stuff
After the earthquake wrecked a load of his stuff that's all he does.

>>9944124
>Nuns+Guns
Well if I ever get off my ass to pursue a wild west TC for GZDoom I'll be sure to include a big tiddy gun-slinging nun as well with stockings and garter belt under the habits of course .

My dream would be that in each episode you'd be pursuing a different bad guy or a girl and between the episodes you would come back to the town to talk to NPCs, buy / improve gear etc, maybe see that rogue cowgirl boss you captured swinging by her neck etc.

I'm thinking of like a town that acts as a Quake style central hub with teleports (disguised as doors, town entrances / exits / wagons ) that take you to linear episodes that progress from map to map like E1M1 / E1M2 / E1M3 etc.

>>9944124
Oh yeah, I forgot Outlaws ran on the Jedi Engine because lucasarts. It's still a good game worth experiencing, I remember playing that first level that was included in the demo many times over. I was always impressed by the "playing cards" HUD, it felt really stylish.

>/v/ is arguing if doom was meant to be played with out a mouse again

>>9944203
Cool.
Stay there.

>>9944203
>/v/

>>9944203
>retarded board does retarded things
thanks for the update

>>9944203
Why should we care? Let's keep our thread here cozy instead of focusing on what others are doing wrong.

But on the topic : from all accounts one of the main philosophies of Id Software was playing empowerment / freedom, and modding the game for whatever purpose was made easy to reflect that. If one wants to play Doom on a mouse / keyboard then it's meant to be.

>>9944203
Only one real way to play DOOM

Hi /vr/

>>9941671
>FORE/VR/ ALONE
>Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579
Which client and editor do you guys recommend for making this?

>>9944228
These threads are far too high-minded for such petty arguments.

So long as nobody mentions pistol starting.

>>9944256
ultimate doom builder
make sure you set it to boom comp level

>>9944256
I use Ultimate Doom Builder.
Tools>Game Configuration>Check Doom2 (Boom Format)
If you're new to level-creation read the pastebin, there's some tutorials, or search around for a YouTube tutorial that's 15 minutes long to explain how to make a single door and then realize it's not even the right format so you have to do it again.
>>9944168
>>9944181
>big tiddy gun-slinging nun
Surprised no one made a sisters of battle mod yet.

>>9943857
looks sick

>>9944260
>>9944272
Thanks

>>9944168
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59072

>>9942893
>woof last updated a week ago

>>9944298
Fuck me that hud.

>>9944272
>Surprised no one made a sisters of battle mod yet.
When you go to that amount of effort you may as well do your own thing instead.

>>9944172
Well unfortunately I can't swear-off DTP because I love classic Metal Slug a tad too much and can't how that SV-001 could exist without it to plagiarize

>>9944203
The only real argument to make there anyways is whether moving the mouse sideways should turn you or make you strafe instead

>>9943627
>>9942241
So it's an unreleased map, right? The post was made in July 2022 and they mentioned it was MBF21. I went through their release history on the doom wiki and none of their recent stuff was that.

>>9944371
He posts quite a lot of gorgeous screenshots, no idea what happens with all these maps.

>>9944383
That is seriously gorgeous, but I need to make an active effort to suppress the thought of "This probably runs like a slideshow in GZDoom"

>>9944390
Well it runs _only_ in gzdoom, so it will be optimized at least to some extent.

>>9944397
I know that

>>9944383
are there monsters in those buildings?

>>9944407
they look like monsters to you?

It's such a shame that Half Life 1 does not support physics and Half Life 2 doesn't just have the same sovl, I would really like to mess around a "day at the job in Black Mesa" mini mod where you play as Gus and organize the warehouses, scratch ass, bantz with co-workers and load train cars.

I suppose something like a mini-campaign involving Gus would be doable, where you would go around "fixing" things like hitting jammed mechanisms with the pipe wrench, finding fuse boxes and doing puzzles.

>>9944414
Is the Half Life 1 modding scene still active?

>>9944409
Nothing an oral abortion couldn't fix, let me swallow a gag pill that my dad left me for this one ocassion

>>9943552
>no toggleable blockmap bug fix like in Woof

I sleep

No Duke noooooooo

>>9943552
Looks like dsda is becoming a new gzdoom with port-specific mapping features. Dropped.

Out of curiosity is there any way to spawn ensure a cacodemon dies in one hit?
My autism demands I try.

>>9944487
Looks like a Bisharp.

>>9944420
apart from SvenCoop, pretty fucking dead I think

>>9944487
Do barrels have randomized damage? You could try some contraption with crushers exploding enough barrels to drop a caco down to 5 or so health and push it into a silent teleporter at the same time.

>>9944506
I probably could've done it an easier way but I wanted to make it overly complex.
>>9944512
I think they do, but good idea. Thank you, anon.

>>9944443
You should know something was up with JSJ when he narrated the trailer for that cringe shump with sharktits furry OCs also he voices Big the Cat

>>9944487
>>9944535
Still looks fucking awesome.

>>9944487
fast crushers maybe?

>>9944512
All explosions do fixed damage, but dependent on the distance. It's 128-distance.

>>9944482
For real, is there any reason to use DSDA at this point? Woof/Nugget are already ahead and the gap will only widen.

>>9943120
Yes, it was me. I was behind everything.
The waning popularity of your favorite source port.
The rise and fall of various community members and forums.
my house
It was all me.

im a genious

>>9944260
>>9944272
>boom doesn't support scripting
All my plans for the map are ruined.

>>9944578
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Voodoo_script

>>9944231
Please. That piece of shit was made obsolete with the PantherXL™
The gamers joystick.

>>9944564
If you're a speedrunner.

>>9944586
Yeah I found this but that's not nearly enough for what I had in mind. I haven't played much doom, I don't know what it takes to make a playable vanilla map so I was planing on something more gimmicky and story driven. But I don't think I can even change music using lifedefs.
But I might go back to it if I come up with an idea more suitable for boom.

>>9944609
You can do some neat things still with boom format, you just have to be creative and clever.
Still best of luck, anon.
>I don't know what it takes to make a playable vanilla map
Just make an exit, and play test. If you can beat the wad on medium it's probably fine.

>>9944535
Barrel damage that knocks the caco into a teleporter seems to be so temperamental, so good luck. I had a setup that killed the caco, but if I moved a single barrel 1 pixel away it would still take like 7 shots to kill.

>>9944547
>>9944443
nobody tell these people about that one billboard in manhatten project

>let's open DRLA to see how a reloading weapon works
>the items
>oh god the items
>for every single weapon and possible modpack combination
Although I see what to do now, take away 1 bullet (ammotype1) as long as the player has at least one, then take 1 magazine (ammotype2) and give bullets equal to the gun's clip size

>>9944609
Ancient Aliens map 1 famously has a music change in Boom format, you can probably incorporate some ideas

I just finished my first map! I hope my friends on /vr/ like it >.<
https://files.catbox.moe/xrqcn9.wad

>>9944629
>>9939393

>>9944630
its his first map idiot, just because you make a map doesn't mean it has to be related to a /vr/ project

>>9944629
You should mention what format you used, and what port you've tested it with, at least.

>>9944643
You mean to tell me that people make things of their own volition and NOT to participate in events and ride on currently popular trends?

>>9944630
>>9944648
kk
Format: Boom
Tested with: Woof, GZDoom, Woof is preferred.
Length: ~5 minutes
Difficulty: Very Easy (Hopefully)
Time to build: Longer than I'd like to admit

>>9944629
I liked how interconnected the map was. Could only find 1 secret.
https://files.catbox.moe/lej7xs.zip

>>9944629
>>9944664
I recorded this with complevel 21 btw, that's just my default.

>>9944623
It was the OP of a short-lived thread back in April talking about the DNF2001 build going nowhere

>>9944653
>and NOT to participate in events and ride on currently popular trends?
at least just not part of any current /vr/ mapjam or project
dunno why you went so far out there

Stupid question - can you make sectors into switches in Doom Builder?

>>9944672
The correct question would be "Can you make sectors into switches in <format>"
In Doom or Boom - only lines can perform actions. UDMF can probably do whatever. Not sure about stuff like Hexen since it's somewhere in the middle.

>>9943703
Using the Tommy gun in blood made me crave a mafia inspired Build shooter. So many iconic lines and source material to work with and some games like Timesplitters even had a gangster level

>>9944203
That imagouse. Romerog Doom. mouse. Obviously you couldn't aim in y axis but you could still aimge is shit. sly you couldn't aim in y axis but you couldD still aiYou could play Wolf3 from the start wih the m with the moth a when they weren't even planning on makinking Doom. mouse. Obvioum wituse. Romero was speedrunning it with a mouse years ago

>>9944569
Amen. Now go back to working on that Unity project.
>>9944623
Civvie already commented on it in his Manhatten Project video. So that crowd is probably aware, but chooses to ignore it or whatever.

>>9944718
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>9944667
What other sets can I find this shotgun in? I know of Trevail and Zerstorer

>>9944629
nice first map, defiantly has some effort in it compared to most first maps

on a side note, I suck at sneaking past cybers in tight hallways,

Some other anons mentioned chnworm.wad in an older thread and I just gave it a whirl. It was pretty cool and it's a shame there isn't more.

>>9944664
Thanks for the demo! Nice rocket dodge at the beginning, and the last secret is behind the crates at the beginning.

>>9944760
>it's a shame there isn't more.
He did a map in Nova 3, short of that the Demo of Chainworm Kommando 2 is all we got.

https://files.catbox.moe/hqrnh2.zip

>>9944765
On a side note, what's the easiest way to play and record demos? The command line is such a pain.

>>9944629
Not bad, especially for a first map, your greatest strength seems to be in the layout. I enjoyed how interconnected everything was. Playing avoid the cybie tightened my pucker a few times, so good job there, and the imps are well-placed to get you some infight breathing room. I also like that timed window thing with the chaingunners, basically try to thin as many out as possible to make the blue key ambush easier to deal with.

Combat isn't bad but a little basic. The rocket launcher secret was my favorite, although it'd be nice if the sector it's on was tagged secret instead of the crate you use to leave. Still, almost never used it because you only get two rockets I think? Not like you need it anyway. Double barrel is nice but comes a little late, same with megaarmor secret which is a bit of a gimme, but it does give you some more wiggle room if you take a rocket. Kinda mean that it drops you down in full view of that corridor though; if the cyber is walking by you can kiss your ass goodbye.

Only real complaints are: make the colored key bars raise up at the same time instead of having to press each one individually. The outdoors area has two imps on a cliff, but there's a little closet back there for some reason that they can wander in, which seems pointless. Use the ambush flag or sound-blocking linedefs to make sure certain enemies don't wake up before they're supposed to, like the chaingunners in the timed window, or the two demons before the red key.

Maybe that switch just before the exit door could be a walkover linedef? I'm nitpicking now. Overall, good showing and a fine midi. Hope you make more!

>>9944786
Oh one more thing, I accidentally played it with mbf21 compat first and in that the chaingunners in the timed window work fine, but in boom compat they keep trying to shoot me when I first start the map. Not sure why.

>>9944784
depends on your launcher of preference. Doom Launcher has a tickbox for it.

>>9943552
Level stats no longer display in overlay map mode and I have no github account to vent my anger from, adversity! Rolling back to 0.25.6...

>>9944679
Sorry, yeah, UDMF. I guess it'd be an ACS thing only?

>>9944693
only if it makes you randomly spit your cigar every few minutes like in trailblazer

>>9944672
>sectors into switches
In Boom you can make a linedef do something if you pass over it with a key, speed of doom map 5 uses it for this detector machine, is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

>>9944730
>Now go back to working on that Unity project
It's a really backburnered for a bit again. House is in disarray due to needing work done, getting a new cat, kids, etc. So I started a new project on a shit laptop that will hopefully be done soon. Then back to the fps, which I'm trying to simplify the design of.

>>9944629
https://files.catbox.moe/5nckpo.lmp
complevel 9
as others seem to have said, i liked that it happens in a small area that connects to itself.
i agree with the other anon regarding the keycard bars. probably join those sectors so they lower at the same time, instead of having to do them individually.
map does feel a bit claustrophobic but idk what you could do about that without changing the layout. maybe a window or two? this is a pretty small and subjective thing though.

>>9942759
https://files.catbox.moe/tyxuoa.lmp
complevel 21
nice map
i think for the start you could make the hole in the ground more interesting like pics related.
normally using green slime as non-damaging flat is a bit sus but i think the map makes it clear that it'll be fine since theres nowhere else to go. it is a bit weird that the slime turns into murky water but thats not too unusual for maps like these.
the encounters were alright, i think you could maybe add closets or teleports behind the play for the chaingunners on the pillar fight so they get ambushed.
for the record your map has a secret near the start (wall inside first monster closet) that just takes the player out of bounds lol.

>>9944851
>teleports behind the player* during* the chaingunners on the pillar fight, so the player* gets ambushed.

>>9944742
Operation Urth-Majik is where it came from IIRC, also some of Tronyn's mods before Drake-derived ones also have it
>Travail is legit just an extra gun-away from being one of the best mods of that decade

>>9944667
>>9944879
I have spent almost the whole evening trying to beat this final fight

unsung hero

working on my second level, this time with freedoom because I found it has more industrial textures which I like

>>9944929
i mean no disrespect but as an ESL its interesting to hear his accent, its not something youd associate with a guy who does doom tutorials

>>9944851
hey, thanks for the feedback! I'll probably finish that level, and yes the outbounds secret was a scrapped area that I deleted and never got back to it.

im this guy btw
>>9944943

>>9944929
a tutorial made 14 years ago helped me today, also love his accent, its comfy

>>9943552
What UDMF wads are even compatible with this? Chainworm Kommando and DoomOne don't even load, and pol.wad has missing textures and none of the switches work.

>>9944851
I like jagged holes, they're very Equinox and I've used a couple but they cause nodebuilding errors like nobody's business

>>9944943
what are they called? they could be freedoom's version of some textures from doom 1 beta or some free use texture pack, I know at the very least freedoom2.wad has free versions of plutonia's bricks and camo with the same filenames to run plutonia pwads

What do you guys think about Slaughter? I tried Sunder (To see how I would feel about Slaughter in general) and although it was fun for a while I felt like it was a chore after just a bit. I think in general Slaughter is fine if it's not overburdening a wad, slaughter maps should be done in moderation otherwise they just grow tedious for me but there are some people who definitely like it.

>>9944819
>is that the kind of thing you're looking for?
Not quite - basically, I wanted to know if I could get a switch wall texture painted onto a sector surface to act like a linedef switch - too much faff for me to be getting on with though. Thanks anyway.

>>9945026
It's fun when it's done well with actual encounter design but when it's just the mapper being tired of shit at map 29 and is just throwing everything in there, it's shit.

It's also difficult to really show the difference to people who don't like it and just assume it's all shit.

I guess they start with "AQ"

>>9945048
>>9945019
mean for this

>>9944203
who?

>>9944819
map 6*

Has anyone here set up Doom WADs on Batocera? Is it easy or a shitshow? Should I just use some sort of vanilla compilation pack?

>>9945026
Sunder is definitely diving right into the deep end, Insane Gazebo tests sunder with quicksaves so that should tell you just a little
I'm stealing this point from the ribbiks youtube interview from a couple months ago, go watch that: the main thing with fun slaughter other than watching cyberdemons infight is territory control. A group of 5 hell knights appearing and threatening to box you in feels "slaughtery" because it's the same idea on a small scale, and Ribbiks uses this to his advantage to make a map with 150 demons a "slaughter map"
Also see Kratom Withdrawl from 400 minutes, I think it's map 25 or 26, for another example of needing to secure a safe place in a crowd of imps

https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3226/fore-vr-project-waifus
Whodidthis? Hmm?

>>9945048
Those are from Aquatex, which was donated to the Freedoom project. You can get the original pack here and run the map in normal Doom 2 if you want.
https://www.doomworld.com/afterglow/textures/

>>9945094
it was ME

>>9945026
Slaughter is inherently tedious, all the famous slaughter wads since Sunder are famous for their difficulty, size, looks and monster count and not their gameplay.

>>9945094

>>9945094
I curse the anon who did this to only use the GZDoom source port for two years straight, with all settings high.

>>9945094
>news
>links to an old thread
>uses one of those shitty adware links to generate money
Fuck that shit.

welp back from work time to keep working on my first doom map

What do you guys do for custom music for your maps and wads? Use the vanilla? Take from other games? Make your own?

>>9945116
I just use other midis from various sources.

>>9945116
I heard the terminator theme in a wad once.

>>9945109
lol wtf how high are their bills

>>9945094
why

>>9945128
>why
For the lulz, why else would someone do some stupid shit knowing all too well it's going to cause some upset? Same reason why someone was trying to "cancel" HFFM by posting about it elsewhere during development.

That anon who initially posted that link played right the topic creator's hands by posting it here, though he might have been the one who made it to begin with.

>>9945094
That forum had 800 lurker visitors just this day, so something might come out of it. I only hope it has manners.

>>9944851
>>9944786
Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the late response. I didn't know you could merge sectors so both keycard gates would open at once. The chain-gunner being alerted early seemed to be a weird engine bug I didn't know about, I fixed it by moving it over a pixel :/.
The reason for the mega armor and SSG was because I was planning for a final area after the yellow key door but I didn't want the map to take more than a couple minutes to beat.

I made a version with some of the suggested hotfixes if anyone else wants to try it out.
https://files.catbox.moe/q4r1h1.wad

I'll probably start working on something else now :^) If I feel confident enough I might contribute to the waifu project.

>>9945173
Sometimes I look at their off topic threads and there'll be people linking junk articles about new world order and stuff lmao
I know some people care a lot about free speech and all but I think doomer boards would be more respected if they didnt allow that shit.

>>9945123
Well we found the anon that posted it.

>>9945183
>listen i know you care about free speech or whatever but just stop doing that and defeat the whole porpoise of your forum by removing wrongthink
It's off-topic. Who cares what people post there? I dont go on doomworld offtopic and get mad if someone's posting liberal stuff.

>>9945192
i don't. but it doesn't give a nice impression to the rest of the community when regulars in the forum are spending time posting articles from fight club larpers regarding how <certain minorities> are coming to rape the children.

>>9945196
for the record, im just saying people shouldnt be posting schizo links thats all. its ok to have whatever opinion you have.
but thats enough of that...

>>9945196
Says the anon on 4chan.

Most of the Doom community dismisses shit from here just because it's from here.

>>9945196
Nice impression of a community when you're looking at dregs and spam in the offtopic area of the forums is, kinda contradicting. Even doomworld is garbage in this sense. Every community is like this, or at least used to be before Discord forced everyone to be PC and unable to have containment threads to vent their faggotry.
Nobody really gives a shit except those who are eternally butthurt at everything.

there is no good gaming sites anymore

>>9945196
>doomworld not pozzed enough to censor every controversial opinion that slips by
>comes to fucking 4chan of all places to cry about it
hello? reddit is down the hall and to the left

i got to the map after the one where the elevator explodes. please don't tell me it's typical slaughtershit from here on out because that's what it is starting to look like

lol i forgot this general was babysat by a janny who does fuck all else all day. what a dork

Syringe is cool

>>9945230
It varies, though it does get a lot more busy when it does away with the tower floorspace limit, which I always felt was to it's detriment for most of the maps.

>>9945230
map 29 has a spot that spawns a constant, nonstop stream of revenants for 2 minutes straight
but you can win the map in 30 seconds if you grab the invulns and hightail it instead of going for 100% kills

>>9945237
i thought it was most of the charm honestly.

>>9945240
I find the above ground maps more memorable for the most part because of what they did with that limited space, short of a few impressive maps like Insanity but that was mostly for it's use of a specific gimmick.

>>9945230
after Scythe it is mandated that in every mega wad that the last two levels of any wad needs to be slaughter shit

>>9945123
They put them on every single link, especially the DBP download ones.

Seems pretty dirty to try to make money off of community stuff like that but maybe they agree to it or something, IDK.

>>9945121
>once

>>9945095
Thanks!!

>>9943081
Zandronum and Eternity are still available as well.

>>9943851
That's pretty much the console experience.

>>9945257
oh yeah I forgot, midis are looped :P

>>9945128

>>9945094
>>9945109
where the fuck would I be without ublock origin.

>>9945116
Use the RoTT soundtrack.

>>9944693
Speaking of TimeSplitters, would it be possible to make a mod that randomizes enemies and weapons in such a way every time you'd get random set of each?
IE, one level you fight aliens and gangsters in a second with accordingly themed weapons.

>>9945458
Should be, yes.

>>9944564
Don’t get me wrong dsda is miles ahead better than gzdoom in every way. I just don’t have interest in sourceports that promote non-standard mapping.

>>9945485
DSDA isn't bad, but there's definitely potential for it to go in a shitty direction. He's been making lots of unnecessary changes as of late.
Although more engines, especially demo-compatible ones, supporting UDMF can only be a good thing.

After 6 years I'm getting back at Doom mapping after playing through myhouse.wad.

Anyone here heard about Cosmology of Kyoto? I'm thinking of doing an action fan sequel to it.

>>9945506
>Anyone here heard about Cosmology of Kyoto? I'm thinking of doing an action fan sequel to it.
I remember it had a weird system for how it handled you dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIDvF_o4So

>>9943408
I don't like Mark very much, but fuck Midnight.

>>9943552
>ask for a couple more features to the MBF21 mapping format
>maybe slightly expanding a few of the UMAPINFO features so they can do stuff which they already do in GzDoom anyway
>possibly a real coding language as a long term goal, instead of having to build upon the crusty jank that is DeHacked
>"UMDF compat coming up!"
I'm not sure why I'm supposed to want this. If I wanted to map in UDMF, I'd be targeting GzDoom directly.

>>9945508
I've used berserk to parkour scythe's map 19 in 20 seconds but I didn't know you can literally wall jump

>>9945525
What could they even add to MBF21 at this point? Some more dummy flags and some inventory counts?

>>9945531
That'd be enough for me.
>some sets of dummy values
>a set of functions for the dehacked which makes a value increase or decrease, checks for those values, and JumpIfs for those checks
That alone would open up a lot of possibilities. Add enemies being able to track and make jumps based on their own values, or things like distance to their target or even specific values of the player, and now you could make some really interesting things.

>>9943745
Why isn't there a MIDI of this?

>>9945553
Some better UMAPINFO support would be appreciated as well. Being able to use bossdeath triggers for the player and custom deh actors would go so far.

>>9944672
You could basically make a floor button by having a small button with walkover lower to nearest/lowest actions on its linedefs, and then tagging the sector for the button the same as what you're lowering.

>>9943408
Is that Bruce Willis?

>>9945561
Or a sector effect where the level ends WITHOUT killing the player. Perhaps being able to define hurtfloors in great detail, like if they could hurt monsters too, maybe just walking monsters, or also flying ones, optionally only hurting flying ones.
A horizontally sliding door of any style would also be neat, but that'd probably be really pushing things.

UDMF though? I could use UDMF I guess, but why use the no doubt far less capable and flexible UDMF over just going full hog with GzDoom or Eternity?
Maybe this will turn out cool eventually, but I'm not sold.