/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9933364
>Arc the Lad collection (Namely arc the lad two)
Arc one is prologue (play with a guide EVERYTHING CARRIES OVER!, and there is a secret character that adds more to the story if you find them)
https://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/cgamingden/ArcHelp/ArcOnehelp.html

to the amazing arc two the game had everything anyone could want from an rpg
>great sprite art
>lush and interesting world
>sidequests glore
>battle tower 4 years before pokemon had it
>music by t-square
>interesting battle system

Arc three was kinda meh

>Final fantasy Tactics
>Legend of Mana
again, play with a guide,
https://legendofmana.info/walkthrough/
>Breath of fire 3
>Breath of fire 4

>>9933364
1. Chrono Cross
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Legend of Dragoon
4. Tales of Destiny II
5. Legend of Legaia

>>9934282
I gotta stop you right there, legend of dragoon was a piece of shit.

>shitty artstyle that aged like milk
tried to be hyperreal for the time and it looks like shit now
>shit music tracks
>fucky battle system
>limited inventory
>boring tropes characters
>ancient still functional ruins just sitting in the distance for 10,000 years and no one thought to check them out

there is no reason to play this game.

>>9934348
Just say you couldn't do the additions instead of larping

>ff7
>ff tactics
>wild arms
>suikoden
>suikoden 2

>>9934365
I could do the additions, it's just that having to use the dragoon shit to use magic was fucky. Meru had the best magic, but you had to use the additions (her attack was shit) and keep using the dragoon transformation to make use of hre.

Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Destiny II
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
Brightis

>>9933364
There's so many good ones. I know Final Fantasy Tactics top the list. Valkyrie Profile, Alundra, and Suikoden 1/2 are definitely up there. I cannot decide between Final Fantasy 9, Parasite Eve, Vandal Hears 1/2, and the Ogre games to take the last spots.

>>9933364
1) Dragon Warrior VII
2) Azure Dreams
3) Wild Arms
4) Final Fantasy VII
5) Final Fantasy Tactics

>>9933364
>FFVII (and VIII can't decide)
>Breath of Fire III
>Grandia
>Parasite Eve (does it count?)
>Xenogears

>>9933364
wild arms
alundra
suikoden II
vandal hearts II
legend of dragoon

>>9933364
Breath of Fire IV
Jade Cocoon
Suikoden II
FF7
FF9

Breath of Fire IV is my favorite because of Fou-Lu's character, the mystical atmosphere and story, the charming sprites, and music.
I still need to play Lunar 1&2 and a couple of others.
I also liked Suikoden I&II and Xenogears, but they don't reach my top 5.

>>9933364
Breath of Fire IV
Jade Cocoon
Suikoden II
FF7
FF9

Breath of Fire IV is my favorite because of Fou-Lu's character, the mystical atmosphere and story, the charming sprites, and music.
I still need to play Lunar 1&2 and a couple of others.
I also liked Xenogears, but it doesn't reach my top 5.

>>9934282
>>9934406
It's weird to me to see Tales of Destiny 2 twice and no Tales of Destiny 1. The first is one of my top games, but I found the 2 awful by comparison. But to each their own. Mine would be

Tales of Destiny
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Cross
Persona 2
Vagrant Story

Honorable mentions go to
Legend of Mana which has some really cool storytelling and certain aspects but a buggy and crappy combat system
SaGa Frontier 2 which is wonderful but semi-impregnable so I don't generally recommend it.

>>9935895
Word of advice, if what you have is a Playstation and you're just going through what's available then the Lunars are passable. Silver Star is still pretty good, but the remake of Lunar 2 is a terrible lazy mess compared to the original. So if you're emulating I'd highly recommend going with them instead.

>>9933364
I’m boring:
FFVII
FF Tactics
Star Ocean 2
Parasite Eve
Breath of Fire IV
I really struggled not to put FFIX and VIII on there.

BTW, has anyone here played Popolocrois Monogatari I yet? It recently had a rom hacked translation. Sadly, I don't think the romhacked translation of Popolocrois Monogatari II is good for what I've seen though (I think it's incomplete).
The PSP remake felt bastardized, so I would really like to play the originals on PS1.
>>9935983
>Lunar 2 is a terrible lazy mess
I know that Grandia is a terrible port on PS1 and got the romhacked translation for Saturn, but I wasn't aware that Lunar 2 was a bad port too. Can you briefly tell me what's wrong with Lunar 2?

>>9936018
>II is good for what
It is not good from what*
Wanted to correct that typo. Popolocrois Monogatari II's rom hacked translation is not good*.

>>9936018
I think something happened at GameArts around that time because their quality in general suddenly went down. There are a bunch of weird tiny things in the Lunar 2 remake like doors in the original having opening and closing animations that are gone. Or a town near the end which in the original has a cool desert aesthetic with big plant pods used as windmills that you don't see anywhere else. In the remake it's just standard town tiles from other places.

A perfect example is this scene compared to the one I posted there. There's a section called the Illusion Woods which in the original lives up to it's name. Giant trees with illusory doors that lead to underground passages through the forest.

In the remake a guy moves some bushes out of the way so you can go through a short, generic forest dungeon that looks more like a hedge maze than a forest. The whole thing is like that.

Ohh yeah and the cut scenes are re-done but WD didn't re-record audio tracks so some places it just plain doesn't line up.

>>9936018
Ohh and I tried popolocrois, it was very cute but so easy and boring I lost interest.

>>9933364
Only played
1) suikoden 2
2) valkyrie profile

So thats my top 2

fatal fury anime has mai booba

Is grandia any good? It seems to be pretty mixed. I started playing it, but just sorta forgot about it. Maybe I have to play longer for the hook or something?

Not in order:
Suikoden 2
Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden
Tales of Eternia
FFT
Breath of Fire 3

>>9936434
I hate it, but many others seem to enjoy. The good is it has a fun battle system. The bad is that it's supposed to be all about tue thrill of exploring, but dungeons are mostly boring both design and layout wise and are super short. Story feels like it was cobbled together from discarded scraps when making Lunar and is super generic. Also I found most of the characters, especially that purple haired girl just annoying. But try it out, some loved it.

>>9933364
1) Parasite Eve
2) Racing Lagoon
3) Front Mission 3
4) Star Ocean 2
5) Torneko: The Last Hope

Got a lot JRPGs I want to play tho

>>9935912
Destiny II was the first Tales game I played, so when I finally went back to Destiny it felt like a big gap.
I didn't find much to dislike about Destiny II, I love how it looks, the battle and craymel system is fun, the story had a good hook with trying to find out the origins of Meredy.
One thing Destiny does better is having a larger cast of party members, I like JRPGs with more party member choices, but Farah and Reid having different play styles gives a good amount of variety and obviously having two mages complements the craymel system.

>>9934365
kek

>>9934348
It’s definitely not that bad. A bit mediocre in many regards, but I think the game’s story and aesthetic are pretty good all things considered. The dragoon magic animations are still gorgeous (at least they are the first time) and pulling off additions was really satisfying. Only thing that I thought was kind of weak was the music, but even then it’s still pretty memorable.

>>9935912
when i got into the tales of series i made my mind to play them in order of release
so i started with Phantasia on the SNES and absolutely loved it, i was so hype to try Destiny on the ps1, i really wanted to see how they improved everything for the new generation.
I was honestly very dissapointed that not only it plays almost identical to Phantasia but that in many regards it takes a step back, you can stun lock every boss by doing an art +a chained art, i remember the Final Boss couldn't even touch me
Enemy formation didn't matter anymore since you can freely walk throught the enemy and attack the one behind him, i remember in Phantasia the enemy formation of Golem + one healer + two mages really wrecked my shit, but in Destiny you can just ignore the Golem and directly attack the mages behind him which in my opinion makes battle formation kinda useless
another weird thing about Destiny is the sound direction, i remember in Phantasia when something sad or shocking happened the music would either stop or the "sad music" would begin to play
but on Destiny i clearly remember this scene of some NPC telling you another NPC had died, and everyone was sad and seriously discussing the situation while on the background the happy music of the town was still playing lmao
and that final boss that was a Dhaos bootleg and came out of nowhere
anyway it's cool that you like the game anon, i'm not trying to make you change your mind about the game or anything, just ranting a bit
Destiny II imo is the better game on a technical standpoint tho

started playing suikoden 1 recently. actually pretty fun so far. I'm a sucker for basic combat and a faster pace story.

>>9935912
I have tried playing Saga Frontier 1 and 2 about 10 times, and I get lost/stuck/confused each time. Impossible game to understand, I wish I could get into it since it seems so unique but something just doesn't click with my brain.

>>9933364
Legend of Mana.
Chrono Cross.
Final Fantasy Tactics.
Breath of Fire IV.
Final Fantasy.

>>9934435
(you)

Eternal eyes is a pretty good tactics rpg that incorporates a bit of a monster rancher thing

>>9935912
Eternia plays SO much better than the preceding Tales games, like night and day better. It also has far better characters and writing in general.

>>9939335
Eternia might be the only actually good tales game.

>>9939343
I wouldn't go that far. The series as a whole is a lot better than people want to give it credit for, it has a weird stigma against it in the West for whatever reason.

>>9933364
1. Breath of Fire 3
2. Star Ocean: The Second Story
3. Breath of Fire 4
4. Legend of Dragoon
5. Wild Arms

>hardly anyone has xenogears in their top 5
Why am I playing this game again

>>9939335
I don't remember a ton of differences in the actual combat, it was mostly that the characters in Eternia were all super annoying. Like I say, I see a lot of people like it but it's the biggest sequel let down I have ever experienced.

>>9934406
Wild Arms is good shit

>>9934435
hmmmm

>>9933364
Is FF Tactics good If I liked Fire Emblem on the GBA and Awakening?

>>9940278
finish xenogears, my favorite game of all time!

>>9940278
You can enjoy a flawed game for what it is.

>>9939335
I don't remember the combat being any better. Mostly to me it was that I hated the characters and writing in Eternia. Phantasia and Destiny were the only two games in the series that ever really clicked with me though. I haven't liked any of the new Tales games I tried either.