/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9803556/#9803715

FORE/VR/ ALONE
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

=== NEWS ===
[5-18] Chasm: The Rift's re-release gets a major update and console release.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2061230/view/3730712991560569024

[5-17] Anon releases map for waifu project.
https://gofile.io/d/yvEAgA

[5-17] Woof 11.1 released, Mac/MIDI support improvements and bugfixes for Dehacked.
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.1

[5-10] New Hexen II map using Shadows of Chaos mod
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62245

[5-9] Base Ganymede added into the list of DOOM re-releases' Add-ons.
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/1qqid5FOihJAll7ANpuKhd/new-add-on-available-base-ganymede

[5-7] New Doom II RPG Port available
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135602

[5-5] Quofee 2 released : 132 vanilla Quake speedmaps
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quoffee2_final.html

[5-4] Woof! 11.0 released with many new features
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.0.0

[5-2] Combined_Arms Gaiden has been updated to version 2.0
[YouTube] Combined_Arms Gaiden 2.0 release trailer

[5-2] DBP58: Immortal Warfare has released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuofyq7afblzuzv/DBP_58.zip

[5-1] DNF Restoration goes open-source
https://gitlab.com/team-restoration/duke4-public

[4-28] Eternity Engine goes Multithreaded (beta)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135380

[4-25] Duke Nukem 3D mod Legacy Edition 2.0 release on May 19th
[YouTube] Duke Nukem 3D - Legacy Edition 2.0 Trailer

[4-19] What Lies Beneath, 11-maps episode for MBF21 RC1 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135165


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>>9923417
Shit! I forgot to replace the YouTube (embed)s with the links. Here are the links:
[5-2] Combined_Arms Gaiden has been updated to version 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocXJAHKO4Wo

[4-25] Duke Nukem 3D mod Legacy Edition 2.0 release on May 19th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgYz34AvD0

>>9923432
It's too late, your thread-making privileges have been revoked and this is the last /vr/ Doom thread ever. Goodbye, everybody. It's been a good run.

>>9923417
>A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
What happened to this?

>>9923438
I've been working on my map on and off, but I haven't heard of any others working on maps for it. I guess SED1 was just too serious for most to handle.

>>9923438
Anon did a pretty cool tutorial, and presumably started a nice map with some screenshots shown, but while some people said they would give it a try, no progress was shown here.

Is there a good retard-proof guide for properly setting up Doom sourceports and WADs on the Steam Deck? I've had a Hell of a hard time getting it to play nice with gamepad controls, the QZDL launcher, and Crispy Doom among other things.

>dumb
more like doom lmao

>>9923571
>myhouse.wad suddenly posted worse happened.
but could it get... worser?

>>9923410
so I feel like replaying doom 1-2 after not playing them in a few years, last time I used chocolatey or whatever its called to play on PC. Pretty Good.
Now I have the shitch versions, worth playing there or do I stick to PC?

>>9923596
It's fine, you'll just have to deal with some censored graphics.

>>9923571
>waifu together
>/vr/ mean life
>hope working

>>9923596
The unity ports are shockingly decent, as far as official source ports go

>>9923571
>add great crispy wads

what are some great crispy wads?

>>9923601
>censored graphics
like? goddamn wtf

>>9923608
no swastikas in the wolfenstein secret levels and green crosses instead of red ones on medkits
there might be a few other changes I'm missing

>>9923571
>build plutonia
>slightly random bullshit
>lol watch whatever
>based place

>>9923608
the red cross would like you to know that they take copyright infringement very seriously

>>9923410
There's an old YouTube video from 2005-2009 I can't find anymore of a YTP themed mod for some old shooter, probably Quake. It had the usual:
>Bombs! Bombs! Bombs!
>Illegal! Illegal! Illegal!
I think the floor was white and the boss was the guy shouting illegal whenever he took damage

>>9923608
Did you know it's literally a war crime to use the red cross as a combatant?
>>9923442
I seriously believe you can do it, anon.

>>9922725
>>9923078
MY KNEES, I MUST KNEEL BEFORE THIS POWER

gentlemen it is my pleasure to inform you that i have cleared knee deep in the dead on hard with zero deaths. for someone who died in level 2 of blood on still kicking i feel happy.

>>9923571
>sandy week
Time to show our appreciation.

WELCOME TO CUNNY ISLAND

>>9923545
> I've had a Hell of a hard time getting it to play nice with gamepad controls.
Getting it running on a phone with Delta-Touch may be the easiest, unlike desktop GZDoom, D-Touch has sane controller defaults.

>>9923841
>desktop GZDoom
and other ports obviously

>play myhouse
>oh cool it's like yume nikki
>just like in that game walk around for a bit then get bored

Guess I'll watch a walkthrough

>>9923813
>where boys become men

>>9923831
really gay dude

>>9923762
>on hard
What the fuck did anon mean by this???

>>9923417
Hold on, that link for my map is old.
The current version of my map (I call it "Eto") is this one: https://gofile.io/d/B3qNZm
It's also worth noting that gofile links last for 10 days unless someone downloads it to give it extra time.

>>9923410
stop letting spic niggers convince you that the cacodemon literally means shit demon

>>9923841
>playing games on Android

Do I sound like a dirty pajeet to you?

>>9924095
DO NOT PET THE CACODEMON.

>>9923571
>experience entrance revenant
>balance lmao
>ad living
>red waifu
>kart hexen
>many gameplay mods
>needs tower without means problem level basically

>>9923571
>attack another community
Finally

>>9924108
How about this?

>>9924115
>this makes me uncomfortable in ways I can't explain

>>9924115
but which hole

>>9923660
It's a fucking weird power play for some office asshats to justify their existence, so they go around threatening small developers who don't have a legal team or anything by saying they're violating the Geneva conventions by having red crosses in stuff.

They never go after Valve or EA or anybody, just id before they were bought out and Introversion before they sold off Prison Architect and shit like that.

>>9923945
You're supposed to read all the ARG shit that comes with the pk3.

>>9924010
the fourth difficulty from the top anon, it's not hard to understand

>>9923596
The worst parts about the console versions is that you can't toggle between the plasma and BFG using the d-pad and the action button can't be mapped to the right stick. Otherwise they're fine. But they're a bitch to load custom content onto.

>>9924163
>But they're a bitch to load custom content onto.

You're saying it's possible though? I figure it would be in the Switch version if you have CFW but what about the PS4 and Xbone versions?

>>9924167
>You're saying it's possible though?
Yeah. It used to be easier when the devmenu still worked, but system updates broke that a couple years ago. The Tinfoil dev claims you can do it through his software, but it's never worked for me.
PS4 and Bone are out.

Idk if the anon that wanted some kind of catacomb maze level will see this, but I'm just getting into map making and I'm gonna make one for you
THIS ONE IS FOR YOU, CATATOMB ANON

>>9924168
I see. If you're using CFW though you might as well be using an external sourceport at that point.

>>9924178
Your source port options on the Switch aren't great. You have GZDoom that runs like shit, Chocolate, and prboom via Retroarch.

>>9924179
>You have GZDoom that runs like shit
I'd like to see Graf trying to tell people to buy a better Switch.

>>9924176
Thanks anon, I'm also working on one. Making it first and foremost as a Hideous Destructor map, though, so besides the fact that it'll probably suck for being my first map it'll also suck as a regular Doom map.
Will keep an eye out for yours though as well!

>>9923571
>40k GZDoom
What was it called again, Bolt Thrower?

MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

>>9924190
There's been a few 40k mods but most were 90s ones using edited sprites from the 90s Space Hulk FPS.

In Woof, can you get rid of the quit confirmation?

>>9924192
PARALLAX

shit's busted as fuck but kinda satisfying

>>9924190
Boltgun. Bolt Thrower is great band though.

>>9924280
What mod?

Pic-related is Doom Tournament + vanilla 3D models running in Resurgance.

>>9924285
Space Cats Saga

>>9924182
>a better Switch
I think that's called a Steam Deck.

>>9924190
The game named by >>9924283 is also not a GZD game but another 90s looking FPS through the Unreal engine. There’s Trench Foot but that’s not set in 40k and is only if you really like Krieg’s Death Korps aesthetic.

I know this is the FPS thread but this is also the Doom thread and I have a related question that I don't think deserves its own thread.
I'm checking out that old Doom RPG mobile game and I'm wandering what each stat does (Strength, Agility, Accuracy and Defense)? I can't find info on that anywhere. They seem self explanatory but still, I'm only going on guesswork since there literally isn't any information about this anywhere on the internet it seems, which is a bit surprising honestly.

>>9924204
Probably in the config file, just ctrl f ”confirm” or whatever

>>9924285
>3d models mod
Personally I'd use the voxels ones since the models are a little too much that one Russian dude who keeps trying to make HD Doom shit.

Doom Tournament and the Unreal 1 mods for it are both neat though, and they make you feel less dirty playing them than SWMMGZ.

Any other wads like Scythe1? Not necessary vanilla, but with short and thematically consistent levels? I am getting Blood vibes from the Burial Grounds level in Scythe.

>>9924434
I would use Voxel doom but as far to my understanding it only supports Doom 1 monsters currently. Very nice mod though.

>>9924434
The voxel mod isn’t finished yet, but I’d like to think you can mix and match the voxel models with the Doom 2 enemy models.

>>9923831
Archvile, nigga from hell be calling out to the heavens

>>9924434
The UT weaponset is surprisingly well-balanced for Doom. The only gun that might be a bit overpowered is the minigun but it's very rare to come across in most mapsets. Also the vanilla 3D model set isn't so bad since they're still lowpoly and lowres textured so they don't look too out of place from the UT models.

>>9924095
spic nigger here, caco actually means 'evil' or 'thief'. what you're referring to is caca, which it means shit.

you owe romero money

>>9924485
They're both pretty basic monster replacers so you should just be able to comment out the stuff you don't want from each other.

>>9924562
He still hasn't made me his bitch.

>>9924562
wtf is DOON?

>>9924562
Fuck Romero and his anti piracy shit, Carmack was right.

>>9923668
I remember something KIND OF like that, but the boss was the chef yelling about his cakes burning. No clue if we're remembering the same thing or not.

>>9923410
I just played Doom for the first time, played with Brutal Doom, all the stress from the day is gone

>>9924579
A hellish 3-D gane by id Softvare
Says it right there

>>9924562
No, I don't. Besides...
>romero
He wasn't the sole creator of DOOM. That screenshot mentions 8 more people and I'm pretty sure that's still not a full list, so fuck him.

>>9924675
>He wasn't the sole creator of DOOM.
Kind of has been my point about how "official" Sigil was claimed to be when it lacked anything from anybody else.
>and I'm pretty sure that's still not a full list
id infamously wrote Tom Hall out of credit for the game entirely.

>>9924603
Now play Johnny Doom and make jump kicks your main method of transportation

Whether a game is good or bad depends entirely on the viewmodel animations.

>>9924819
wrong.

all of the animations in Quake are fucking shit and it doesnt matter because the game feels amazing and is extremely satisfying to play.

>>9924856
The viewmodels alone take Quake from a 8/10 to a 4/10 sorry not sorry

>>9924819
Is it truly a game if you're not able to check your health by looking down at a tattoo on a pair of floating boobs?

Good wads for tools of destruction?

>>9924280
Anyone know a good wad that plays well with >>9924291 because I've tried out the wad it comes with and it's pretty underwhelming. Visual design is a mess, levels are too long, and encounters aren't interesting becayse they've just dust dumped loads of enemies in big arenas and called it a day.

Picrel is the first level of chapter 2, come on man.

>Whether a game is good or bad depends entirely on the viewmodel animations.
Fighting stupid with stupid: If you’re able to focus on the viewmodels during combat encounters, the game isn’t doing enough mechanically to distract you from them.

>>9925013
Thematically Lunatic might work.

>>9925013
This looks like shit nudoom garbage

>>9925024
Been meaning to get to that one so that's pretty convenient.

>>9925028
I see where you're coming from. It's a shame because the weaponset (Lux's at least) is pretty fun. It's just these levels are such a chore to play.

>>9925046
>Been meaning to get to that one so that's pretty convenient.
The maps do get reused in Valiant but they get tweaked about a bit, and Lunatic is a fairly short experience by itself so I find it more of a useful thing to throw the odd space-y mod at.

>>9925013
>the first level of chapter 2
IIRC that's much closer to the last level, since Chapter 2's map numbers start counting from the end of Chapter 1.

Did anyone at the time care that Q2 was unrelated to Q1 except in that it was another id fps?

>>9925212
Not really.

>>9925212
history is like a porn in a video game, it's there but it isnt sometimes.

>>9925013
I've been thinking about giving that a try. Though, not the maps anymore, holy shit.

>>9925218
>t. Mock Jarmahn

The lack of good anime girl mods for doom surprises me

is there a way to make multiple doors open once when you use one of those doors

>>9925281
Merge/join them into the same sector, or make the door actually a switch that triggers a door and give them all the same tag.

>>9925281
in UDB, sorry, I should have specified.
>>9925286
Can a linedef/sector be a door and a switch at the same time? That could work.

The railgun and it's consequences have been a disaster to the arena shooter genre

Why isn't there a score system for these games

>>9925297
Wolf3D, RoTT and Blake has it

>>9925297
because RIP AND TEAR is its own reward.

>>9924579
>he doesn't know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon's_Doon

>>9925267
Do we need any others besides La Tailor Girl?

Why isn't there a score system for these good games

>>9925324
be the change you want to see

>>9925267
La Tailor Gril, Booster, Demonsteele, D-Radys

>>9924680
>id infamously wrote Tom Hall out of credit for the game entirely.
That's an obvious one, but I still think there might be some people missing out... Maybe I'm wrong here, who knows. Just don't really like this pic related bullshit: it's not just one person, that's always a team effort.

>>9925267
Be the change you want to see

>>9925297
There was a guy who made a Pizza Tower score/combo system a few weeks back.

>>9925339
Heavens, please no

>>9925297
Dakka has existed for ages.

meatball daemon

>>9925446
MEAT DAEMON

>>9925446

>>9925446
i don't understand, why does it even have teeth when it can't bite you?

>>9925468
meatballs need to eat too

>>9925471
I'm not good enough?

>>9924562
>We enjoyed making it for you.
then he should pay ME

>>9924616

>>9925353
SOUL
O
U
L

>>9923417
>[5-18] Chasm: The Rift's re-release gets a major update and console release.
>still no multiplayer
Back to DosBOX I go.

>>9925512
Still better than if Nightdive got their hands on it.

>>9922618
>Depends on who you ask, I seem to have gotten a lot of pushback on this new update.
Simply for Blaz, things are leaning towards "largely positive" for me so far.
>>9925446
>the horns pinch when attacking or taking damage
This whole time? Damn.

>>9925461
Is that gravy?

>>9925528
HP sauce made from space marine HP

>>9925526
What if they're not horns? What if they're like pincers like it's a big, round stag beetle or something?

>>9925468
>mod makes pain elementals bite
>mod makes pain elementals explode
>mapset's dehacked makes pain elementals explode

>>9925526
my only gripe with new blaz is the fear shot upgrade just doesn't have the sheer power you'd expect from a plasma gun pickup
new doomslayer is great though, I'll have to see how the next version pans out because I'm used to the idea of him using "normal" doom ammo

Browsing the PS Store saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTdKUjfpPKA
What the fuck

>>9925592
wow nice. there are a few good classics now on there

>>9925592
I've been waiting for someone to dump the Switch version.

>>9923417
Byoc has been released!
https://twitter.com/revenatn/status/1660789119713247232
https://revenatn.itch.io/byoc

>famous doom wad creator who pushed the entire thing forward passes away
>STILL no acknowledgement in the doom general
i hate these fucking zoomers

>>9925658
R.I.P Toke

>>9925320
>>9925332
>>9925339
Sorry, i mean monster anime girls, those only change the player character

>>9925658
How the fuck is anyone supposed to know who you're talking about if you don't say who it is? What kind of a massive faggot are you if the only reason you care about this person's death is so you can bitch about the zoomers that live in your head?

>>9925658
what the fuck, Eye Del Cul is dead?!

>>9925658
RIP John Romero, you never made anybody your bitch.

>>9925658
rip ribbiks, he never scored

>>9925658
Farewell SatansHeteroFather, you will be missed.

>>9925658
i didn't even know he was sick!

>>9925658
Godspeed, Jeff Bird

>>9925658
RIP Cockblock. I hope you finish 94 protons in heaven.

>>9925658
I can't believe Revenant100 is dead.

>>9925658
eric harris died like 20 years ago dude

>>9925658
these responses prove that doom gen is literally a hideout for redditfugees

>>9925842
>literally
>redditfugees
lmao even

>>9925842
>>9925658
Anon I know this might be a surprise to you; but most of us don't obsess over random people on the internet to the point of knowing when someone dies.
I personally don't use any forum, nor other form of communication, and my only understanding of culture in the doom community is by these threads and some mutual friends between mod-makers.

>>9925842
this is unusually high quality bait for this thread

>>9925840
Irony there is he did have an effect, or the media's coverage and rumor milling of it did, it made it seriously unpopular to do the do the myhouse.wad thing, to the point where people will now think it's only some spooky scary shit and not a trend of people making their house/workplace/wherever in Doom or Duke3D or some shit.

>>9925842
>redditfugees
you sound like one of those retards who still uses wojak memes in 2023

I just wonder why everyone forgot about descent. I can't find any """legit""" download which would actually work on modern hardware and i really dont want to pay for 20 year old game on steam.

Where do I go to find good doom wads that ISNT autisticly trying to browse shitty doom forums and that god fucking AWFUL idgames website?

Why can't there be an actually good website the curates all this shit into an easy to find and filter repository?

>>9925869
>soijaks
this is the only photo i have saved on my HDD

>>9925850
>don't use overused meme term
>replies with oberused meme term

>>9925889
you have to be 18+ to post here.

>>9925912
i'm 46, employed, married, have kids and own my home.

>>9925915
nice try

>>9925885
Try using wayback machine and find some old doom websites/wad archives.

>>9925885
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

>>9925915
46 and posting like a colossal retard?

>>9925917
i'm honestly not joking. i am a contributing member of society. i do data entry and clearance processing for a shipping logistics company in hoboken. i am more than you will ever be, and i have that photo saved on my HDD. think about that for awhile.

>>9925885
wadbooru when?

>>9925926
Be the change you want to see.

>>9925885
There's a really good wad booru for browsing maps of your specific desires. You just need a time travel machine into the future and hope some anon bothered to make it.

Why this board hates Eviternity?

>>9925925
lol ok

>>9925934
too many of the high dps dehacked monsters after map 10
OTEX has a negative emotional aura due to being used in too many shovelware made-for-ZDoom maps

>>9925796
;_;7

>>9925937
I don't mind OTEX, I think it's a good texture pack, the problem is the people who uses them horribly. like pic related.

Thoughts on the Top 10 Infamous WADs?

>>9925952
explain to a retard why this is bad

>>9925964
Not that anon, but it does kind of look like a mess of clashing colors, but not to an unbearable degree. He most likely posted it because he has beef with the author.

>>9925934
i liked it. the later maps after around 20(?) fall off for me. OTEX is a good texture pack and it's used well in eviternity, i also liked it in 1000 lines 3. the dehacked monsters are decent additions and have a good aesthetic aside from the super cacos which i hate in every aspect and the retarded final boss.

>>9925973
map 19 may be one of the worst cases of magnum opus in a megawad but if I had to give eviternity credit it stays engaging in the later maps much more than scythe 2 map 20-25's "watch this cyberdemon infight and peekaboo this room of 200 revenants for 30 minutes"

>>9925934
I love its aesthetic, but holy shit do most of the maps bleed together. Each episode has a standout map but the others in that episode don’t draw much out of me.

I really like the hell episode, the opening was great and map 25’s use of Slave is definitive for me.

Fuck the astral caco.

>>9925926

>>9925964
bad color combinations, ugly texture placements. it's not the first time I see garbage like this in a wad anyways.

>>9925968
Nah, i don't actually hate her... I would say that I just fell into a 'rabbit hole' kind of shit after reading that review from DB. I just wanted to play some of her work by curiosity.

What are some maps like myhouse? Now before you go ballistic I don't mean that in the usual way, I mean what are some maps that also use the silent teleport or similar tricks to create fuckery and chaos in your head? Come to think of it, that technique would be perfect to make non euclidean MC Escher type maps.
And come to think of it even further, are there any Lovecraftian maps?

jesus, it took me almost two hours just to make this and its not even ready. Am i retarded or does it really take this long to make maps? I'm just starting to learn.
Still have to change some wall textures, finish the cubicle and add a corridor to the next room but i will probably try to add a new texture or something because vanilla only has one floor computer and it kinda sucks.

>>9926024
There was a single map a long time ago that I'm blanking on that used silent teleports to make the map seem continuous but also loop in on itself. If I'm not mistaken it was one of the first of it's kind given it was so long ago. I've completely forgotten the name of the map but it's sticking out to me as something that fits the bill. Anyone else remember a map like this?

>>9926024
you know this gets asked a lot these days so just check the last thread for all the same answers

>>9926031
You get faster at it. One of the biggest, easiest time sinks to fall into is doing everything you possibly can in Doom Builder's 3D mode. It's much faster to texture and tweak heights from the regular editor view.

>>9926039
Just looked, there's only 4 results for "silent teleport" with no semblance of any maps or mod names and 0 results for "non-euclidean" or "Lovecraft"

>>9926031
It gets faster as you learn. An easy solution is to block out your map in the quickest way possible, e.g. graph paper, or blocking it in large chunks, and then go back and add detail.

Think of it like how an artist will sketch out stick dudes and then fill in values, shapes, etc

>>9926047
well look harder faggot. put that little brain of yours to work.

>>9926024
>myhouse.PK3 here
>myhouse.PK3 there

/v/ lurker, there are more older interesting wads with interesting tricks to play.

another map learning fag here, how can I add railings to a staircase?

Another another mapping newfag, how do I apply Boom features to my shit?

>>9926054
the older I get the more vanilla-limits wads I want to play.

>>9926054
Exactly what I'm trying to look for
So far from what I'm trying to research I have imposs.wad, the thing you cannot defeat, rootpain, and going down so I'm trying to look for more.

>>9926064
Why not play one of those then?

>>9926064
Other than imposs, none of those are non euclidean

Rumble niggurs, how goes the maps? Just want to check in because I'm literally (figuratively) dying from a sinus infection and might fuck off and just sleep for a few days straight.

>>9926024
>What are some maps like myhouse? Now before you go ballistic I don't mean that in the usual way,
It's fine to like whatever you like, anon, so long as you actually care enough to try other content and not change the pre-existing culture.
You're already doing more than most do.
>And come to think of it even further, are there any Lovecraftian maps?
Some of these aren't exactly lovecraftian, nor exactly the conditions you mentioned, but hopefully they're close enough to what you're looking for.
>Happy Time Circus
>Soundless Mound
>Unloved
>Lilith
>Unhinged

>>9926031
If you wanna be more experimental and go more further on sector details, making your map less 'square-ish' and shit like that, try to decrease the grid-size of your editor.

Are there any Doom wads that are like Painkiller?
I mean the vast variety of settings going from one to the other like how painkiller has a giant monastary level but then suddenly you're in a carnival and then next you're in an Arabian palace and then on the streets of a Russian city in WWII and then in a creepy orphanage and so on so forth.
I had recently replayed Painkillers and had so much fun with the variety of settings and levels and it truly is one of the game's strengths that I'm wondering if there's more like that in Doom.

>>9926024
Maskim Xul does seamless level changes in a lovecraftian library but it's a slog that demands constant quicksaves if you don't want to suffer early hair loss

>>9926060
When you start a new map file in Ultimate Doom Builder with Boom format all the Boom line specials are selectable. There's a very limited amount of ways doors and switches can work in vanilla doom so having more control over where and when elevators and doors work is your main "boom feature" https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Linedef_type#Table_of_all_types

>>9926071
I'll look into these. I'm actually looking at Imposs right now and it's pretty much on the money of what I was looking for. It's not the overarching story or narrative or myhouse or even the horror or weird atmosphere, what I was looking for was the techniques that were used and their similar use in other maps.

>>9926084
Oh that looks pretty cool. I've added it as well. Thanks.

>>9926036
Here it is
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/imposs

>>9926104
Yep this is absolutely perfect. Thanks /Doom/

>>9925549
NTA, but I just recently tried gmota. Didn't know how to play Blaz so I just went with Doomslayer and liked him a lot. I plan to learn Blaz eventually, but I may be too pea-brained to play him well. What are the MIA characters from the character select? Just potential future characters or old stuff being reworked?

>>9926085
the quirky domain is another non-euclidian map

>>9926168
Ooh this looks really good. I think I've got a good list now
Although
>>9926071
Sorry none of these fit the bill of what I was looking for. And unhinged and happy time circus are just weird

>>9926162
I had removed the third playable character: Kustam, a hand cannon packing Warforged, in the last update . He suffered from too many gameplay and balance issues, I didn't have the time to fix him to my standards at the time. The fourth playable character: Samson, a little Kobold Artificer, will be added in the mod's final major update. Kustam'll be back too.

Also with any luck Blaz will become more straightforward to play as when I get rid of the manual toggle for the powered sword and just make it more like a combo meter.
Though checking the help screen might help you figure out Blaz a little in the mean time.

>>9925670
Stylish Hell?

https://twitter.com/ScottApogee/status/1660727104504320007
Adrian Carmack posted some sketches of Doom's textures.

>>9926194
And the other two for archival purposes.

>>9926194
>>9926196

>>9925953
>The Sky May Be
It's fucking weird and kind of stupid but arguably the first of its kind so I can see why it was chosen.
>Wow
Babby's first Doom map, literally. I don't know how or why this map gained infamy within the community first but one of these maps was sure to eventually.
>UAC Labs
This map honestly isn't terrible, too bad its creator murdered people and then offed themselves or he would have maybe contributed to a really cool megawad by now.
>Nuts
It's still a fun map to blast through and stress-test sourceport performance as well as overpowered weapon packs like Russian Overkill, though 100k Revenants has taken its place as the "impossible to run" map and it's not particularly enjoyable as a slaughter map with vanilla gameplay.
>TNT Evilution
I can see why people were pissed about it getting paywalled with Final Doom at the time but they honestly weren't missing that much. Memento Mori and even TNT's own Icarus: Alien Vanguard are much better megawads which came out for free the same year.
>Gothic99
Everything that would be controversial about this is completely irrelevant now, especially since so few people play online deathmatch anymore though I suppose you could try playing with bots. May not be a very good map pack for all I know but it's not "remarkably bad" like it would have been back then since we're used to map packs with tons of sectors now and they don't tank performance typically.
>Imp Encounter
kek I wonder if they'd get away with adding this in a modern list without being accused of "homophobia."
>Mockery
le funni Reddit: The WAD
>Slige
Soulless slop but we have much better level generators nowadays.
>Mordeth
Never ever. At-least what we got is pretty good and Heartland is a great WAD to demonstrate the Eternity Engine sourceport.

pistol start Plutonia has literally been the hardest thing ive ever tried in videogames ever

Is map 12 even possible? Theres not enough ammo to take out that Cyberdemon on top of the red key, and theres a billion enemies literally everywhere with no cover or health.

Literally what were they thinking? I doubt they even playtested UV and beat it themselves in one go.

>>9926212
I just recently beat it on UV from pistol start. Map 12 is tough, but it's totally doable. It's easy to position yourself in a way where the Cyberdemon is impotent and you can just shotgun him to death.

>>9926184
That's why I said pea-brained. I looked at his instructions and forgot what I read as I played. It's just me. I learn stuff like that best by just playing a character or game over and over. I'm intrigued by the other characters though so looking forward to that.

>>9926212
>I doubt they even playtested UV and beat it themselves in one go
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/TeamTNT/finaldoom/plutdemo

>>9926223
Well Blaz is gonna get streamlined further soon where it'll just be:
hit badmans -> build meter -> fill meter -> hit badmans harder and get HP -> keep meter going

Kustam would have been a fucking nightmare for you too, he was so fucking convoluted between his meters, managing reloads and the fact he had double tapping, holding, AND holding primary and then hitting altfire for his weapons. He's still most likely going to be the most complex character in GMOTA, but I'm hoping to make his gameplay less asinine and braindead when I bring him back.

>>9926212
when you're playing UV pistol start it's assumed that you know where all the secrets are and have an exact route planned
terrible way to do a first playthrough

>>9926194
>>9926196
>>9926198
I swear I remember someone talking about making textures like these sketches for a wad that would place in a dream or something? Like specifically keeping the scratchy, sketched look in-game to make it dream-like? They'd have to be higher resolution to do that though wouldn't they? Or maybe not if stylized just right.

>>9926238
Do you have any art of this guy? I would love to see more of him.

>>9926267
Quite a bit. I'm very fond of my sad robot man. A few friends of mine like him too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG_oiVFhsqg
Now that I think of it, I wonder how the rest of Pink Floyd's The Wall would sound like in Doom's soundfont?

>>9926212
Sorry to hear that, anon.
At least you aren't doing a no-hit-run of pistol start Plutonia in Nightmare mode.

>>9926267

>>9925526
Well if it means anything, anon. I just recently played gmota and I had a lot fun, good job!

>>9926369
It does mean something, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it. I take all of this pretty seriously and I want to improve myself as a game designer and artist.

>>9925656
>this does NOT work with gzdoom
So what's the point?

>>9926370
> I take all of this pretty seriously and I want to improve myself as a game designer and artist.
I relate with that. Best of luck.
I hope my add-on to demonsteele goes well, coderanon and I actually plan to create a few extra characters though that's long term and things can change.
Here's a quick doodle, I've been having more headaches lately so unfortunately I couldn't properly doodle your character.

>>9926181
>>9926085
It's all good. I figured you were looking for horror wads, best of luck.

>>9926404
>best of luck
I'm gonna need it. I wish you luck in your own future endeavors too, though if you have a coder alongside you, you might want to try breaking off and doing your own thing. It could actually be easier in the long run if you guys have your own foundation you're familiar with. Because I've looked at Term's code before and it angers me at times, he has the most batshit insane variable names.
and thank you for the art.

>>9926424
Maybe in the future.
>Because I've looked at Term's code before and it angers me at times, he has the most batshit insane variable names.
Don't worry, we're making it worse.
I've even insisted on keeping the tradition to adding random bits of character-lore in the code just to make it even worse.
I do hope Term won't mind that I'm actually making sprites for Sun Shihong and made up lore for her because I couldn't find any.

>>9926207
Reddit didn't exist when Mockery released, and literally every doom community absolutely despises /r/doom as it is nothing but 13 year olds posting Doom Eternal memes.

>>9925212
Not really, everyone was praising dynamic lighting on Voodoo, it was "the future of 3d is here" moment. Quake1 was considered a press failure because of widely inflated expectations, it didn't get much coverage after Q2 and Unreal releases.

>>9926392
Zandy mod. Makes for good co-op.

>>9926064
just fucking play Bloom, levels are a fever dream

>>9926059
Only solid ones, slopes in udmf only, or midtextures, but for slopes you need sloped custom textures.

>>9926247
Yeah I'm still on it, but I am positive about finishing before 94P comes out.

>>9916243
A dedicated middle-finger key is a feature all FPS games made after 2000 should have

>>9924190
>Brave fentanyl dispenser saves his sentient drug stash from inter-dimensional DEA agents with reckless abandon

>>9925656
Fucking finally. Shame that it doesn't work with GZDoom, because I bet this mod would've been a blast with Corruption Cards. I know that CC is out for Zandro too, but it's an ancient version.

>>9926068
good night anon

>>9926194
>>9926196
>>9926198
considering how zenimax screwed over romero over sharing doom assets, hope adrian doesn't get shit too

>>9923410
Some of the mappers disclose their nationality, the most fortunate of them have developed their own distinguished and recognizable style - either by imitating various inspirers and refining their work, or by hitting some overlooked niche.

Is there a such mapper whose style you easily associate with a particular country? Or is there a special set of quirks you noticed that's shared by natives of some country? Onemandoom, for one, often mentions the so-called "Russian realism" in his wad reviews.

http://doom.starehry.eu/?p=8362
Whoa, someone reviewed Ad Mortem and I don't understand a word of it

>>9925934
Eviternity is generally good, but considering Valiant come out years before it, I couldn't help but be disappointed.

>>9926949
Wow. What the fuck? That's so fucked up.

>>9926997
What is?

>>9926949
>.eu
Yurpeens are at it again.

>>9927019
Quake 2 PSX is legitimately a better game than the original.PC release

>>9925512
Yeah, that's a bummer. Later in the update, who knows.
>>9926194
Nice of Miller to share them, even though he does this stuff solely for attention.

>>9925664
Isn't that the faggot who made those stupid maps where he strategically placed hundreds of cyberdemons everywhere

>>9926949
Česki jazyk teƶky jazyk

>>9925297
That would honestly be pretty neat. I'm not usually a score attack kind of guy but having something like a style meter would be cool.
Or a 'New York Minute' mode like in Max Payne, that basically functions like an arcade timer - keep killing to keep adding time to your run!

>>9926048
Does UDB or any of the Doom Builder mods have a way to include a 'sketch layer' - either importing an image you've done in another program as a backdrop/template, OR a way to draft out zones that isn't actually creating sectors?
I'm thinking how some 3D programs will let you import images as reference.

>>9927167
>Or a 'New York Minute' mode like in Max Payne, that basically functions like an arcade timer - keep killing to keep adding time to your run!
https://jp.itch.io/minute-mod-doom

>>9926238
If it's worth anything at all I had zero issues playing Kustam and he's not at all complicated. His invulnerability potion is busted if you have the flame vents but that's about it.

>>9926424
>he has the most batshit insane variable names.

Ah yes, "int cocklordsupreme;" I love immature code.

>>9926442
If you go to his Tumblr and search DemonSteele you'll find a bunch of stuff. There is plenty of background on Shihong.

>>9926424
>Because I've looked at Term's code before and it angers me at times, he has the most batshit insane variable names.
It always amuses me when I find one that's just called FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK or something, gives a glimpse into how much fun he was having with something.

>>9927202
I felt like some of his inputs and mechanics were pretty weird, like the buff potions and the marking shot thing. Also seeing as potions are gone I can focus more on his core mechanics. Though one thing I've been thinking a lot on is how I want to handle kicks and charge kicks and if whether or not I want them to tie into his heat gauge at all. I've also been considering removing the full charge staff strike, and instead just making it so the longer you charge the staff, the longer you spin it when you let go. He'll need some different upgrades as well, one I've been considering is letting him kick his spent casings away as a projectile attack. This will be something I'll dive deeper into in the coming months after I finish up Blaz and Doomslayer.

In hindsight giving him buffs was a dumb idea, that's more of Samson's thing. Like I explained it canonically they were something of his creation, but mechanically it doesn't suit the slower robot man that's more about ranged attacks and meticulously wiping enemies out.

Vid related is not my vid, Just found a useful vid for anyone using Apple Silicone iMac, MacBook, Mac Mini, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoSzMSPQ80Y

Why so few Japanese Doom Clones?

>>9927309
Japs were supposedly more prone to motion sickness and PC gaming wasn't very popular there so the FPS genre didn't catch-on in Japan like it did in the West, at-least not for a long time.

They came up with some cool shit all their own every now and then though.

>>9927309
>>9927326
Pic-related very cool too, though it barely qualifies as an FPS.

>>9927326
>>9927345
A bunch of early Japanese attempts were more along the lines of blobbers with FPS mechanics, which does kind of make sense with the stuff that did take off over there.

>>9927363
I remember seeing a webm of a dungeon crawler (touhou-themed?) where it played like a mix of a traditional blobber and an FPS where you shot monsters with an uzi.
Would like to see more first person dungeon crawlers, stuff in the vein of Ultima Underworld or System Shock. Maybe some manual mapping mechanic, something in the vein of scanner sombre where you have a limited/recharging tool that 'pings' your surroundings to build up a map.

>>9927202
>If you go to his Tumblr and search DemonSteele you'll find a bunch of stuff.
Oh sweet, thanks anon. That makes it this a lot easier.

>>9927428
>it this
I am still retarded.
>>9926212
You think that's bad?
Try beating it pacifist nightmare all secrets

>>9927421
Might be Crime Crackers, maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28Mg4bNt1U

>>9925446
Never noticed that its horns are actually pincers

>>9927436
>pacifist nightmare
but what if you could talk to the monsters

>>9926068
Mine has been on an indefinite hiatus because of irl bullshit, I'm considering cutting it short and removing a final large area. That might make it really unsatisfying though.

Now that the dust is settling, do you think the popularity of myhouse.wad was overall positive or negative for the community?

>>9927461
Positive, though it's nowhere near as technically groundbreaking as it's made out to be.

Also it's reliance on side materials isn't great.

>>9927461
I think it's overall neutral.

>>9927461
Neutral.

>>9927461
negative, very positive for graf.

>>9927481
Best I know, he doesn't personally enjoy any of the artsy or nonstandard stuff.

>>9926071
>unloved
Why would you do that?

>>9927461
negative, this is only gonna bring more gzdoom-only tryhard mappers. How I despise zoomers.

>>9927461
neutral. i doubt we're gonna get newcomers, a lot of the sentiment shared by normies seems to be "wow i cant believe this came out of doom modding of all places" so they probably dont really care for doom.

>>9927461
Time will tell. Penumbra was a neat little game, but its consequences (Amnesia, and then Outlast) were disastrous for the horror genre.
For me it's more negative then positive but only because it once again proves no one gives a single fuck about actual Doom.

Also
>almost half a year has passed, time to check all the good wads I missed, mentionation thread should have something by now
Yeah...

>>9927495
We didn't get that with Total Chaos, and that shit had a million times more effort put into it.

>>9927505
And million times less attention.

>>9927501
Pretty much the media bangwagoning and shit doing that, which is to be expected but it's still pretty lame.

>>9927504
>Penumbra was a neat little game, but its consequences (Amnesia, and then Outlast) were disastrous for the horror genre.
To this day the entire genre has not recovered yet
Everything nowadays is either a remake of a classic horror game or mascotte horror

>>9927501
Pretty much how I view it.
You'll see the same sentence repeated infinitely, as if every time is the first time it happened.
>"I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID THIS, THEY MADE THIS IN DOOM?!"
>"BRO 3D FLOORS!?"
>"BRO THIS IS A DOOM MOD!"
And then, like every time, they will never acknowledge it past that point.

>>9927513
Most amazing thing is the people I've come across have almost universally watched a streamer or Youtuber player it, and the few that actually went to the effort of playing it themselves got the fucking burned house ending.

>>9927461
It'll be forgotten in a month.

>>9927513
Reminds me of a decade ago where blog sites were attributing vertical mouselook to Brutal Doom.

>>9927445
Nah, it was different though this one looks cool as well. It was set in like a forest or jungle, and I think it might have only been one character. I'll take a look for the posts in /v/ archives.
>>9927512
>mascotte horror
I was looking up the term 'mascotte' to see what it meant before realising you meant mascot, me dumb
>>9927518
I played it before I watched anything on it, and only got the burned house ending on my own, I knew there was more to it but I didn't figure out getting the different collectibles and I'd already lost interest by my second playthrough to try and get more of the items.
Really the parts that interested me the most were
>the house silently/subtly changing itself over time to fuck with you
>the mirror world
I didn't care much for the brutalist part.

>a fucking reload cancel
This makes me want to recolour realm667 sprites and cobble together a shitty reloading weapon mod even though I don't have Sgt.Shivers on speed dial

>>9927535
>I was looking up the term 'mascotte' to see what it meant before realising you meant mascot, me dumb
My bad, in my language it's mascotte, not mascot, always confuse the two terms

>>9927518
Everyone got burned house ending on their first try.

>>9927504
Amnesia was good though and made by the same developers. At least choose a better example. Why are you claiming no one will give a fuck about doom? Myhouse still has doom elements of combat, key hunting, secrets, and all that jazz.

>>9927535
The burned house ending was a cool trip the first time, but I can't be bothered to play the wad further to find everything.

>>9927542
Are you okay anon?

>>9927540
Yeah, honestly it works well enough if it was just the burned house ending, just a creepypasta wad.
>surface level: play through the house, don't notice the missing windows/soul orb, get the keys, leave, go "ok"
>slightly deeper: notice the missing windows/orb, go through again, get creeped out by the house being weird, hear the spark noise, go through the burned house - > brutal house - > airport - > plane crash - > house disappears, go "wow, what a trip" and leave
I think the other stuff is only if you're really obsessive with details.
>>9927539
No worries!
>>9927543
Yeah, there's kind of a point with these things where it rubs up against my laziness and stupidity and I go "eh, the juice isn't worth the squeeze" and just look it up.

>>9927537
Reloading weapons is cool. I think the sole reason I've been enjoying Hideous Destructor is that you have to rack the slide on the shotgun between shots, AND that it's not just 'click to rack' but pressing down on the altfire does the "CLICK" and then releasing does "CHIK", so you can do it quickly or slowly. It's VERY nice.

>>9927540
A lot don't even realize there's any other ending.

>>9927493
yes but his shitty sourceport appeals to newcomers and the normie audience.

>>9927546
Yes? I don't understand

Myhouse kind of reminds me of the Hondo maps, like AHL_5AM. I like the thought of seemingly normal maps having weird increasingly fucked depths to explore.

>>9927565
Any newcomer is going to be defaulting to GZDoom anyway.

It's quite funny that some of the people behind it have already been outing themselves, probably gonna happen more and more towards the end of the year where it'll inevitably get a cacoward.
>>9927571
This, also doing stupid shit like dragging and dropping wads onto the exe.

>>9927461
I would play this wad if it was a total conversion, it looks good but I think the Doom stuff takes away from the mood the author is going for.

>>9927461
Negative dude, i'm getting tired of lurkers talking about this gay pile of shit.

>>9927578
>This, also doing stupid shit like dragging and dropping wads onto the exe.
What's the best way, stuff like ZDL?

>>9927569
Reminds me of stuff like Void, Impossible and Quirky Domain.
>>9927580
It takes away from the core thing of it being one of the trend of making myhouse.wad maps in Doom that got picked up and worked on while the developer was supposedly losing their shit?

>>9927586
One of any number of launchers really, ZDL is a very solid choice though in whichever version of it.

>>9927587
>It takes away from the core thing of it being one of the trend of making myhouse.wad maps in Doom that got picked up and worked on while the developer was supposedly losing their shit?
Yeah, Cacos look goofy.

maps that got mainstream news coverage have never really caused long term problems. because you can't play one map forever. low effort copies and bandwagons from novice mappers won't get any traction. so, the fad has an expiration date. the good newfags stay and the bad newfags leave once discussion dries up. and in myhouse's case, it's a horror game, most of the people who see it aren't even going to play it, they'll just watch the streamer, won't install the game, and will stay comfortably at arm's length from the doom community. that isn't really a problem.
the only time a mod going mainstream has caused long term problems was brutal doom, and that's because it's not a map, it's a gameplay mod, so you can play it with whatever wads you want and then bitch at the creator in portuguese when your game crashes because there are more than 300 monsters in the level. there's no expiration date and an unlimited potential for being annoying.

>>9927461
after doom's community was primarly defined by unfunny memes, isabelle, midnight etc, we now got to see a doom mod get into the spotlight that also isn't brutal doom
so there's that

>>9927542
>claiming no one will give a fuck about doom?
No, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension?
People liked it not because it has Doom elements. Not key hunting, not combat and definitely not final fight.
They liked le spooky house, zoom liminal spaces, ARR or whatever this bullshit called, "wow I can't believe "X thing I know about" can do Y", and most importantly about all their favorite ebin streamers streaming the shit out of the wad.
The amount of fucks people give about _actual_ Doom (actual fucking levels with actual fucking combat and fucking keys and exploration and resource management and all the shit Doom did 30 damn year ago and stil does) is insignificant, we had tons of god-tier wads (and MyHouse is definitely not one of them) and none of them got even remotely popular outside of Doom circle. Unlike MyHouse which might as well be Quake mod or Half-Life mod to all the normalfag creaming their pants about it right now.

>>9926216
> It's easy to position yourself in a way where the Cyberdemon is impotent
This is cancer, fight him fairly or lower the difficulty and get better weapons.

>>9927309
The arcade versions of HL2 and CS is something I would like to learn about, mostly of just what exactly what was the thought process behind making both of those things in first place
>not retro
Sorry but trying to post anything of merit onto the neo-nu-/v/ board that isn't an anti-goyslop circlejerk or waifushit discussion will nowadays most-probably get archived after mere hours with single-digit reply count (which most likely won't even be on topic anyways)

>>9927615
I'll play however the map allows me to.

>>9927616
>>not retro
Anon, HL2 survivor came out in 2006. It's /vr/ approved.

>>9927578
>some of the people behind it have already been outing themselves
your pic related is pretty funny considering my pic

but as far as i understand, esselfortium and jimmy only did the music. esselfortium hasn't lied so far as far as we know, so when she says she was privately contacted by the author of the map for help i think chances are she's not hiding anything.
i think it is actually surprisingly likely its just one guy behind most of the map. whether its a known mapper or an actual newfrog is up in the air.

>>9927561
Yes, reloading is cool, just have experienced it recently with Ashes2063 - if you forgot to reload your shotgun, it is time to reload a savegame.

>>9927509
Sure, but attention doesn't have to mean that much. Thatcher's Techbase got a lot of coverage in spite of mostly being kind of a wet fart, but it's also just about forgotten, the only people who give it any thought now are those who are preoccupied with old British politics, and us here seething at something lame like that getting a big spotlight.

myhouse.wad is definitely a LOT more ambitious and better put together than Thatcher's Techbase, but setting aside that I think it much more deserves attention, I still don't think it's going to have a long lasting effect, or at least not one that starts taking up a lot of space in the overall fandom. What we might see is a slow growth of another subgenre, but it's unlikely to dominate.

>>9927592
I mean that's what I'm using now, but it wasn't immediately obvious that was the best solution (or one of them anyway). Looking up 'how to launch wads' (or multiple wads, since I started using HD with other maps) I saw a lot of results of people saying to write batch files, or do the drag and drop thing.
>>9927580
I think it was more interesting to have it be 'just' a map, if you're going in without weapons thinking it's like its own thing then some of the stuff breaking or going weird has less impact.

>>9927628
I assumed it was the same guy who made chainworm kommando. It's the same kind of doomcute.

>>9927630
My early play with HD was a lot of deaths due to not understanding what the different hud elements meant, and going into a fight with an empty/unloaded shotgun. Fucking embarrassing.

>>9927626
Remember when the original Xbox was still forbidden to discuss on /vr/ dear Anon?
2001 should have always been the cutoff date for Retro

>>9927494
Unloved is actually very fun to play with gameplay mods.

>>9927561
I fucking love HDest's shotgun. Slamfire is fun, and it's very satisfying to do a really slow pump after the last shot into an enemy.

>>9927650
I certainly don't disagree, but that's just how /vr/ is now. On the plus side, GBA games are cool.
Also HL2 survivor is fucking weird on several levels.

>>9927628
the only thing that legitimately, sincerely bothers me about myhouse is people saying the literal 2000s video game creepypasta story on the exact same level as sonic.exe or ben drowned is "powerful and important".
if the backstory wasn't as stupid as it is while also being as tied into the map as it is i wouldn't have any genuine complaints about the map itself.

>>9927643
He's been working on stuff on a different engine, so I wouldn't expect it to be him, also he's seriously unknown in the community, it's only really around here that his stuff gets posted.

>>9927653
>and it's very satisfying to do a really slow pump after the last shot into an enemy.
YES
I'm growing some fondness for the zm66, though. Stuff like some magazines being 'non-standard' and refusing to load unless you really shove them in (and not getting an ammo count for your trouble), caseless rounds being temperamental and going off if you load them in too quick, this is all the kind of annoying bullshit that I would program into a game if I wasn't critically lazy.
I LOVE it when games have this kind of bullshit (Receiver & Receiver 2 are some of my favourite games).

>>9927670
I have no respect for the ZM66 personally, it's a jammomatic space age piece of shit.
Now the Thunderbuster, THAT'S a good fucking weapon.

>>9927663
i think the backstory is fine. its simple and does its job well.
your reservations are probably due to it being a story about 2 gay men; as when gay men are involved in a story, the internet can't stop themselves from standing up and clapping at the awe-inspiring and brave statement that is "gay people exist"

>>9927637
Allegedly Thatcher's Techbase's mapper had buddies in the vidya media covering it on top of going for a theme that'd get it picked up by media.

I'd put Myhouse.pk3 closer to Hellshots Golf getting a fair amount of media coverage when it got released and played by a bunch of streamers.

>>9926071
>>Unhinged
Is this a terry wad? I already saw some photos of actual people as enemies.

>>9927494
>>9927653
whats wrong with unloved, i thought it was really nice. gave it a 4/5 on my library

>Quake 2 Ground Zero has a chainsaw
Damn it, i should in fact replay that some day.
Also Q2 had ammo backpack and some armor and health items meaning that if there was a "MetaQuake" you could make Quake have some "Doom like" elements or someshit.
If someone ever makes a fangame based off a certain crossover, find ways to make Ranger into Doomguy's echo fighter.

>>9927578
>James paddock
lol if he's involved then it's definitely inevitable that shit is going to get a cacoward...how obvious and predictable.

>>9927692
Terrible encounter design for most of it? It looks great (if you pump the brightness up above what the author recommended, so you can actually see), and the hub design with hub events as you progress is really neat and I would like to see more like that but the fight are a either a boring slugfest or revenants in tight corridors.

>>9927692
>>9927494
>>9927653
Sorry I recommended it, I didn't know it was unloved.

>>9927707

>>9927707
Listen here, you little shit.

>>9927707
Oh U

>>9927707
Listen here you little shit, last time you take my job

>>9927643
>>9927668
It's actually painful to see how ignored his shit got on Doomworld https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/91952-chainworm-kommando-v10-released/

Even his Twitter seemed to have him have moments of feeling like giving up because nobody care for his stuff.

>>9927609
My reading is fine, you barely wrote any explaination in your original comment. You are guessing what people feel when playing or watching the wad. Some might get into those other doom wads you are mentioning because of it. A big draw to it is the doom art style and that is why it wasn't made in another game. Also because of the biggest reference regarding everyone recreating their house in doom. Are you mad because of the popularity? I understand gatekeeping from retards but it's still a well made piece.

>>9927461
Positive, but I see it in a weird way. Some portion of people will become more interested in classic-doom because of it. Out of that portion, most of them will be primarily interested in gz-doom modding and some amount will stumble on vanilla-ish doom.

So while we’ll get more gzdoom zoomies than vanilla enthusiasts, we still get more vanilla enthusiasts.

>>9927718
I can't remember where I got the recommendation from (probably here) but I just assumed the author was popular. There's so much effort and detail in his maps, what a shame

>>9927670
Conceptually, I love the ZM66. Mag DRM is hilarious. But I don't like to use it. I'm more into the Lib and Boss rifle, or the Bastard and Vera if you count mods.

>>9927679
I'm starting to like the Thunderbuster a bit more, with the X-Pulse mod.

>>9927692
>>9927705
I've been thinking about playing it with something like Hearts of Demons - Baron just because. The chainsaw guys give you the melee rune and soul gems immediately after so you can hit max magic level right off the bat.

>>9927460
Well, I'm not going to make my own deadline at this rate anyway, so consider it more of a suggestion than a hard cutoff point. Quantity is going to be lacking, so might as well go for quality.

>>9927751
I know I found it through the random wads thing on idgames, I think somebody else found it independently of that and a bunch of us got discussing it in the threads.
>but I just assumed the author was popular.
He's actually done very few sets, though while Chainworm Kommando 2 is listed as lost here, we've managed to preserve the demo of it in these threads so that's something.
http://www.chainworm.de/

>>9927759
The X-pulse Buster is something I've grown so fond of that I always play with it. It really encourages more aggressive play with the Thunderbuster's beam and I love it for that. It helps the Thunderbuster in general is an insanely flexible weapon.

>>9927679
a ZM with underbarrel grenade launcher is basically peak performance, if there's enough plasma in the levels to keep a liberator stocked enough to run it as a full time weapon you have bigger problems than the chance of a ZM jamming

>>9927718
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/91952-chainworm-kommando-v10-released/
This actually sounds like it might be fun in HD, I'll give it a go.
>>9927759
Which mods are you referring to?

>>9927637
I should clarify that while I don't care for myhouse.wad, I think it's much better that something like that gets attention because someone actually put a lot of work into making it, and it leans hard on its gimmicks. It's not some cheap throwaway
Also Brutal Doom, there's a lot to criticize, I think some of it is badly designed, but shitloads of work has been put into making it.

Of course, that's not to say that effort just smooths over bad design, there's big projects, basically all new games in GzDoom, which has a lot of time and effort put into the world and setting, and the graphics, but the author canot design levels/gameplay for shit, so actually playing that stuff is absolutely dildos.

>>9927686
I don't think there's any doubt about it, it would be extremely unlikely to NOT be the case. If the target of satire was some Khazakstani agricultural minister who Anglo socialists have never heard of, it wouldn't have gotten any attention at all from those types, even if it was a masterpiece. The attention was completely superficial.

>>9927701
Hah, yeah. Love his music, and I think he makes some good levels, but names like his are expected in Cacawards, which is one of the reasons they're increasingly less interesting, and why I think people shouldn't take those things too seriously.

Myhouse is just normiebait. Now everyone move along.

>>9927769
I hated then loved then hated and now love the ZM once again, although I’m quick to replace it with “fresher ones” I find on the ground.
>if there's enough plasma in the levels to keep a liberator stocked enough
>stocking a lib with cells
Are there more crazy HD mechanics I’m missing?
>>9927561
HD shows the fun balance you can have when you pair elaborate weapon mechanics with things like quick switch speeds.

>>9927796
7.76 magazines replace vanilla plasma cells unless you find them in a backpack or next to a lib rifle which can replace SSGs rarely

>>9926897
is there any place where you can find doom maps by location? dont know any mapper from my cunt

>>9927781
>This actually sounds like it might be fun in HD, I'll give it a go.
It sounds like they work, I know this one nerd streamed them together this one time.
https://www.twitch.tv/combine_kegan/clip/ExquisiteBlueCroissantBlargNaut-J1ltgrsjXysrn42U

is this map underrated? i found it in my library, i remember enjoying it. but it doesnt get mentioned a lot
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/funeral_gen

it's hard but its not slaughtermap territory

>>9927812

>>9927814
>is this map underrated?
It's a single map and hasn't been waved all the fuck over Doomworld so probably.

>>9927796
>HD shows the fun balance you can have when you pair elaborate weapon mechanics with things like quick switch speeds.
It sounds lame as fuck, but I'm tempted to buff my guy's damage resistance (via the multiplier in settings) so he doesn't die so quickly. What I enjoy about HD is the extreme gear and medical autism, not so much dying because I stepped around a corner and got hit by a fireball and two grunts. Half the time if I get set on fire I'll normally quit because it's just going to kill me.
I want something that's closer to AHL than Arma - medical stuff is more complicated than just running over a medpack, and guns are actual machines - but I can take more than one or two bullets before needing to scurry into an alcove and spend minutes recuperating.

It feels so odd to see that video about myhouse.wad going utterly viral. Like almost 4 million views in one and a half weeks.
Doom hasn't had this many eyes on it in a while.

>>9927826
>not so much dying because I stepped around a corner and got hit by a fireball and two grunts.
Basically the Legendary Ultra Giga Mega Fuckity Fuck Fuck Complex Doom experience right there.

>>9927835
Nah, the shitty Complex Doom experience is getting shitblasted by a Zombieman armed with a BFG10K, dying, and then waiting 40 minutes while you watch some other peckerhead peek around corners to kill everything.

>>9927835
Yeah. I mean I get it, and I know this is purely a skill issue on my part, but it's genuinely frustrating and I find myself quicksaving around every corner.
What I want is an experience where I should still be avoiding fire, but taking a couple of shots won't immediately incapacitate me to the point that I can't return fire and need to immediately commence triage.

>>9927830
They don't care about doom.

>>9927814
Ribbiks and Danne belt out tons of speedmaps, some of them show restraint in their difficulty and are actually enjoyable for mere mortals

>>9927826
personally I use 0.65 damage taken and the giga homing imp fireball is still a one hit kill from 100% hp

>>9927580
The final encounter leading-up to the good ending is kino though. A good slaughter of a fight to cap-off a prolonged series of exploration puzzles.

>>9927578
>This, also doing stupid shit like dragging and dropping wads onto the exe.
Or using ZDL instead of a proper .bat

>>9927830
Much like the mod itself, that video just managed the presentation right while being in the right place at the right time rather than doing anything really mindblowing.

Bandwagon's still rolling too, I guess a lot of people want to watch him funble around for an hour trying to find all the items blind.

>>9927596
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

Anymore good super-slaughter maps out there? Crazy shit like Deus Vult, Holy Hell, or The Eclipse of Betelgeuse.

>>9927859
I'm sure people's reaction to this will be completely reasonable

>>9927869
Okuplok?

>>9927859
decino is fun, I enjoy his playstyle much more than coincident, who's probably superior as a doom player but the spastic way he plays really puts me off.

>>9927850
>personally I use 0.65 damage taken and the giga homing imp fireball is still a one hit kill from 100% hp
Damn, they hit hard. What kind of difference does a lower damage multiplier make in your experience? The way I see it, I want getting shot to be a problem I can't ignore forever, but not something that takes my dude out of the fight immediately, so I can finish an encounter and then rush to heal up.

>>9927178
Edit - Grid and Backdrop Setup - Show background image

>>9927830
>in a while.
More like ever, since Doom 2 was released. Aliens TC got abit of attention, Action Doom got some, but that's probably it.

>>9927859
Meanwhile the projects that truly do mindblowing things barely got any attention like Elementalism. I'll never understand normalfags and why they're the ones to drive things.

>>9927871
>>9927873
I don't mind Decino himself, though I don't find his videos all that interesting, can't stand his fans though.

>>9927876
Brutal doom

>>9927872
Good rec anon, that's the type of thing I'm looking for.

>>9927878
>Elementalism
Is that even done yet?

>>9927843
I'd say it's less people wanting to get into Doom and more that people just want to read House of Leaves now.

>>9927884
If that's the case then do Holy Hell as well

>>9927878
Yeah it honestly gets tiring when you see all these 50 greatest wads lists and shit and it's just always the same stuff, like a great chunk of the community is in a rut and doesn't ever really try anything if it's not got big attention or by a handful of known names.

These threads seem to have a much higher taste for trying new stuff than the average for the community.

>>9927878
What did Elementalism do that was so groundbreaking? Genuinely asking and curious here.

>>9927878
humor me, what was mindblowing in elementalism?
>>9927885
Considering phase 1 was only last year, most likely not.

>>9927876
>>9927878
When I think of new doom mods that are revolutionary and mindblowing but didn't get any large scale attention I instantly think to DSC. It was ambitious and actually really really good but so little people know or remember it. A damn shame.

>>9927830
It's weird because it released like 2 months ago and is only becoming viral now.

>>9927806
Oh shit that’s what you meant, thanks for that clearup.
>>9927826
>It sounds lame as fuck, but I'm tempted to buff my guy's damage resistance (via the multiplier in settings) so he doesn't die so quickly.
Changing the settings provided by the mod to something you find more enjoyable is far from lame, especially for a mod seemingly made with coop in mind.

>>9927898
>>9927895
It pushed the envelope in details, graphics, and design in a doom map having a grand sense of scale but also elegance in every map spanning across multiple settings as well. It's one of the most advanced visuals in all of doom, if not the most advanced.

>>9927883

>>9927906
>Changing the settings provided by the mod to something you find more enjoyable is far from lame, especially for a mod seemingly made with coop in mind.
That's true.
My friend's sans PC but planning to get one once he moves - gonna try and convince him to get involved with doom co-op, we might try it that way.

>>9927907
It also requires top of the line PC to run even remotely acceptably.

>>9927907
>>9927878
Thanks for reminding me I need to go play that it's on my list but still haven't gotten to it yet

>>9927905
The Youtube algorithm just decided one day that that particular video about playing and dissecting myhouse.wad, even though there was plenty before hand, was the one to put in everyone's recommended feeds. It's a fickle beast.

>>9927901
>DSC
I remember it being enormous, running like garbage till I fucked with a few actors to stop spamming shit and that I had to add keybinds that it didn't have a menu thing for.

Also it containing this as a 17 meg PNG