/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9803556/#9803715

FORE/VR/ ALONE
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

=== NEWS ===
[5-18] Chasm: The Rift's re-release gets a major update and console release.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2061230/view/3730712991560569024

[5-17] Anon releases map for waifu project.
https://gofile.io/d/yvEAgA

[5-17] Woof 11.1 released, Mac/MIDI support improvements and bugfixes for Dehacked.
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.0

[5-10] New Hexen II map using Shadows of Chaos mod
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62245

[5-7] New Doom II RPG Port available
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135602

[5-5] Quofee 2 released : 132 vanilla Quake speedmaps
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quoffee2_final.html

[5-4] Woof! 11.0 released with many new features
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.0.0

[5-2] Combined_Arms Gaiden has been updated to version 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocXJAHKO4Wo

[5-2] DBP58: Immortal Warfare has released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuofyq7afblzuzv/DBP_58.zip

[5-1] DNF Restoration goes open-source
https://gitlab.com/team-restoration/duke4-public

[4-28] Eternity Engine goes Multithreaded (beta)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135380

[4-25] Duke Nukem 3D mod Legacy Edition 2.0 release on May 19th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgYz34AvD0

[4-19] What Lies Beneath, 11-maps episode for MBF21 RC1 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135165

[4-15] Unreal mod "Steele Dawn" V2 has been released
https://www.unrealsp.org/index.php/articles/reviews/steele-dawn

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Chex Quest is pretty cool.

3rd.

I feel like trying out Hideous Destructor, convince me otherwise.

>>9916095
Do it.

>>9916095
i want to play it today too
what are some good maps for HD?

>>9916104
https://codeberg.org/mc776/HideousDestructor/wiki/Maps

>>9916095
It carries with it a small risk of an incurable, terminal disease of thinking it's the only way to play Doom.

What Doomlike games are there with an RPG system ?
The only one I can think of is Heretic.

>>9916015
Woof 11.1.0 needed a hotfix, use this link for the next thread
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.1

>>9916126
Strife

>>9916126
Hexen and Strife

>>9916095
It can be very easy getting into when you realize you don’t have to start on on UV, and you don’t have to start with killer barrels enabled.
>>9916116
This curse can happen to anyone attached to a mod they like.

>>9916139
Brutal Doom with the hellish ambience soundtrack here, am cursed.

>>9915164
I don't know why the visual bug happens, so my lazy solution was creating extra walls to cover it because it only happens if the door is open while you're in the teleports area.
As for the ice cliff, i cut off one side of the loop and the other requires something to make a floor go up, so the player can reach it.
Basically a linedef you walk on, so you can reach the secret area tied to the green soulsphere room and a recently added blue armor.
>>9916015
https://gofile.io/d/B3qNZm
So i updated "Eto".

>>9916139
>This curse can happen to anyone attached to a mod they like.
True, though it seems to have somewhat taken over from Mythic Legendary Super Duper Ultra Terra Complex Doom Fuckity Fuck Fuck edition in terms of people obsessing over it.

>>9916126
Witchaven

>>9916168
I attribute that due to how much the mod sticks out, and not only just from other mods. There’s not much out there scratching a similar itch.

>>9916265
>grenade Term
Rude.

>>9916265
>releases smaller revenants

>>9916329
Probably one of Kegan's keybinds.

There's probably too many weapons, but I'm having a lot of fun with Hexeretic Fantasy.pk3 in Heretic. I like mixes of all weapon types like ballistic, magic, melee, throwables, wands, elemental etc.

>>9916265
>bad girl enemy
Needs berserk pack correction

>>9916515
It suffers from the same issues as the Doom version but it's still pretty fun in both versions.

does anyone have the duke nukem texture pack ffrom this author? the link is dead, a replacement is good too

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=61471

>>9916664
Maybe scroll down the page to the giant dropbox download link?

What's the deal with Doom Legacy? Why can't I get it to output in fullscreen or to my monitor's resolution? Why does it crash anytime I try activating OpenGL? Why won't it save any of my settings when I close it?

Just wondering if there's a way to set it up properly that I'm missing, or even if there's a valid use case for it or if it's just a really shitty port. It's the only one I've had trouble with up to this point.

>>9916689
Sorry i just woke up

>>9916557
It could really use some kind of class picker so the weapons are spread out over a few characters rather than 1 guy picking all of them up and having a mess on his hands. Some of the weapons could be balanced better too. Overall, still fun.

>>9916693
IIRC it's a very old port that doesn't receive many updates and most of the people working on it left. I think I also ran into some issues during my short period of using it.
>or even if there's a valid use case for it or if it's just a really shitty port.
It's the only port I can think of that has splitscreen functionality, if that means anything to you.

>>9916785
Well personally, I'm not impressed. Just glad there aren't a large amount of notable mods that require it aside from Sonic Robo Blast 2.

The Bethesda Unity port can also do splitscreen, and I honestly think I'd rather just use that.

>playing HD with the PS1 soundtrack
name a better combo

>>playing HD with the PS1 soundtrack
Completing the package and playing HD through Consolation Prize is fun, and a good way to introduce people to the mod. You also get to see the level differences for the first time if you haven’t yet.

Ok, can somebody tell me what GZDoom does to fuck up the way movement, AI, balance is in Doom?

I was playing Map 10 in Plutonia and was having crazy trouble, then I read somewhere the 60fps fucks with Vanilla dooms code. Theres a lift in the map that instantly goes down into a group of pinkys that basically instantly kill you if you dont have max HP which is insanely hard to keep due to the map having very low health pickups.

But then I said fuck it and decided to try Crispy Doom in original 35fps and I noticed immediately how different everything felt. Monsters are way less aggressive, I am able to slip by them way more consistently, it even feels like the movement speed is slightly slower than GZDoom for everything including monsters. Switching over to Crispy Doom I was able to get farther in the map Pistol Start than GZdoom in 60 fps. And the lift trap of pinkies suddenly stopped becoming a problem because they didnt instantly attack you and give you just enough time to kill one and slip out.

Am I just imagining things or does GZDoom really fuck up the balance of the game that hard? Are these changes actually real?

what happened to the cia guy that reviewed hffm?
do you think he would review fore/vr/ alone when it's finished?

>>9916904
Amongst other things, the background math gets changed.
>>9916910
I think he shows up around here occasionally, I find his stuff more interesting than Decino's videos for feedback and shit.

>>9916910
lmao what? post the review

>>9916904
>Am I just imagining things or does GZDoom really fuck up the balance of the game that hard? Are these changes actually real?
You are not imagining things. GZDoom is not 100% vanilla and has different math like that other anon said.

>>9916916
>>9916923
>background math gets changed

But has anybody documented what that actually *means* as far as gameplay and balance is concerned? It seems like a pretty big deal since the changes feel so immediately noticeable when trying to play these difficult maps in Pistol start when every tiny little thing matters. GZDoom obviously makes the game much more difficult and outright broken in some cases as far as some of plutonias traps.

That's some old looking gif. Do you remember how you got it or where it's taken from? Personally, I'm aware of the show, but haven't had incentive to watch it. As of now, even extra mecha appeal wouldn't have cut it for yet another longrunner, even though I'm not opposed to glacial pace and mundane plots.

>>9916701
>>9916962
Lol damn

>>9916945
>>9916962
I just saved it from somewhere here

>>9916931
>But has anybody documented what that actually *means* as far as gameplay and balance is concerned?
I know about the RNG tables being actually rng instead of a set table of numbers, and that the timings of conveyor belts can fuck up voodoo dolls.

Then again I have to ask why you are using GZD for something that doesn't require GZD? Are you trying to be part of the retards who go looking for something to get mad over?

>>9916982
>I have to ask why you are using GZD for something that doesn't require GZD?
It sounds like he’s going what I went through, playing wads for awhile through the port not realizing how much it affects the gameplay. My biggest “whiplash” when getting into more traditional ports was not realizing that GZD made punching more reliable.

>>9916995
I saw a friend of mine get utterly destroyed by vanilla levels just by going from GZDoom to Chocolate.

>>9916982
I would wager most people who play doom casually use GZD for everything because it "works with everything" and you don't have to have multiple ports.
That and really any _popular_ mod that gets attention is going to require it for acs/zscript hackery

>>9917013
>needing gzdoom for ACS
That shit's the one of the three that's fucking everywhere, even Eternity has it.

Boom is really limiting.

>>9916015
Posting to be an anchor for FORE/VR/ ALONE
>>9916164
Noted.

>>9916904
GZDoom fucks with a lot; I recall that it makes actors check for multiple checks every few seconds which is why sometimes the AI just wanders around aimlessly before firing.

>>9917020
>Boom is really limiting.
Night and day compared to vanilla.
>>9916931
>But has anybody documented what that actually *means* as far as gameplay and balance is concerned?
Watch decino's videos on PrBoom-plus' compat settings and Boom's RNG, he provides some examples at the end of each.

>>9917020
And that's why we've got MBF21 now.

>>9916963
that gif is from the ova, it's only like 4 episodes and worth watching on its own
dunno why i've suddenly been seeing it everywhere lately

>Chasm and Nightmare Reaper released yesterday
>Boltgun next week
>New Quake maps dropping
>System Shock 2 Enhanced trailer with announcement for consoles
Siiiiiiip, yep. It's comfy FPS season

>>9917095
Chasm remaster got released near the end of last year if I recall correctly.

>>9917020
But limitations breed creativity!
That is why everyone is mapping in vanilla.

Did stxvile ever play 512 lines? If so, does a recording of it exist?

>>9917107
I forgot to type *console version

>>9917095
>40k fps
>check engine
>Unreal Engine
Well there goes most of my interest though the shotgun looks chunky and nice. I must have got it confused with that 1st person Fallout thing that’s supposedly in a Doom engine.

>>9917095
>System Shock 2 Enhanced
Surely it can't be as bad as how the SS1 reboot is looking.

>>9917137
From what I understand it’s more along the lines of their Quake reboot as opposed to remaking the game, so same game with different/newer assets that may or may not have some gameplay changes.

>>9917149
I think I'll stay with the original in that case, I didn't get on with the weird feeling of being slower in that Quake version.

What went wrong?

>>9916256
Dr_Cosmobyte plays a lot of hideous destructor and some of his mods inherit the "your character is always trying to shoulder his gun but moving too fast fucks it up" aspect

>>9916265
this one's a fuckin goldmine kek

>real far balls
>set fov high
>shotgun gameplay >:)
>woof damage
>maybe playing :/
>doom lot fun :D
>question machine?
>specifically mouselook inspired
>considering trouble modding :(
>monsters supposed normal, please :3
>always lead rocket B)
>extra infinite
>release waifu
>project random plasma
>anon cool less guy
>gzdoom bit fine :/
>chaingun things? check.
>job: bombs >:P
>ass midi drop
>amazing pain
>fucked man enough :*)
>enemies problem usually ;__;
>neat ports
>least great thought project, design seems berzerk
>released hate >:(
>finished ssg hard
>gonna secret? thanks, another

Hot take:
>marathon? standard.

>>9917156
repeating mistakes that other samsara addons did
>too many characters
>bloated enemy roster
>still no unreal chick
>randomized objects lead to unfitting objects show up in certain spots, when the main mod already had a good enough solution for pickups and how characters interact with them
the last bit reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi6w5f6gpYs

>>9916104
It might be a bit rough for a newcomer, but DBP58 is a pretty good fit.

>>9917167
Next project, 32 maps based on 32 random combinations of words

>>9917154
>weird feeling of being slower in that Quake version.
Funny if that’s still the case, I remember you couldn’t run backwards with the default bindings during its launch. I might still poke my head into what they manage to pull off for this SS2 thing, Powerslave Exhumed was interesting and I liked a lot of the new Quake models.

>>9917186
That actually sounds pretty interesting.
Wasn't there a similar project on DW some time ago where the map name basically decided on the theme etc?

>>9917186
So kind of like this thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxCzeq9K6lk

>>9917063
>>9917087
>>9917117
Fine I'll just keep at it then. I had an idea for how I might be able to make the giant tower and surrounding fortress.

>>9917206
>giant tower
How giant? Anything beyond vanilla allows for some hefty map sizes. One map from Ad Mortem has some kind of large monastery in it.
And Misri Halek is of course a thing, too.

>>9917156
Samsara as a mod already had some hacky code at the time, which is why Kinsie tried to keep the mod alive with a version meant to work with later GZDoom builds
And part of why the base mod even had 8 characters was because each character was treated as a "class" which also explains creative differences from source material like the Chex guy having differences from Doomguy
The original ZDoom forums thread of the mod even gave the 8 characters class names
Caleb not being there was both due to code issues and the fact that his potential class was already filled

>>9916329
>Try Corruption cards mod for the first time
>Pick "On death, monster spawns a few dozen smaller copies of themselves" card
>Kill revenant
>Shit self

>>9917212
Giant rock fortress bursting out of the ground with massive spikes jutting everywhere with a central tower with a giant red crystal shooting a beam of red light into the sky making everything red. It's supposed to be visible from very far away. Really it's the giant spikes protruding everywhere and surrounding the tower that are the problem - no slopes is hell with this design since i have to manipulate the height on everything to create a slope like effect. Also no 3d floor or portals means I can't allow the player through the front entrance since I need to depict the sky. I'll post the reference I'm using in a moment.

>>9917228
The base of the fort isn't a problem aside from the triangle entrance and the need for the sky to be seen which prevents me from letting the player enter the front entrance.

My idea for the tower was to make a bunch of sectors surrounding it and have them jut out at various angles with supporting line defs to make an illusion of a slope.

>>9917228
You can approximate slopes with staggered platforms; of course it will drive sector count way up.
What you can do, if you have the space, is to make a portal through a dark spot (e.g. the main entrance being a very dark hole) and do a silent teleport to another part of the map where the actual action happens.
But yeah, for Doom mapping you have to learn to think less 3D and accept that you simply won't be able to do everything you want to, depending on what you want to do. Sometimes there's some roundabout fuckery to approximate the effectm but sometimes it just won't work out as imagined.
The "limitation breed creativity" mantra is more about being creative with finding workarounds to things, not to actually being creative in how you design your map.

hnnngh thiccer

>>9917265

got pvs working :^)

>>9917186
>wordcloud projects
I'm still salty Redneck Superfly didn't take off, that thread was hype af

>>9917265
>filling the thicc with mancubi
You are a genius

>>9917091
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=ah_eto..._bleh_%28meme%29
Social media thing, as always. Can't say how different it is now in the era of consolidated internet and deserted blogs, but extra coverage is nice even if in macro memetic way. Anon should be familiar with source material for a right to use any relevant pic anyways, that's unspoken gentlemanly etiquette.
>that gif is from the ova, it's only like 4 episodes
I got intimidated by the series and its sequels first, but I might just risk and try to watch it in full, OR rewatch it someday if I lose gripping momentum somewhere. OVA would be a good sampler.

>>9917279
Better to not take off than die like the Heretic one, or get cockblocked like 94 Protons.

>>9917186
Literalism did this

>>9917298
Speaking of which, what IS the current state of 94P, is there any way I can check/dl the current state?

>>9916265
>dementia edition sounds retarded

very problematic, miss cloud.

>>9917315
It may or may not be coming in June.

>>9917186
>weapons and enemies also modded by word cloud instructions

>>9917327
Fuck that shit, that's Chopblock bait.

>>9917317
>dementia edition sounds retarded
Can /vr/ pull this one off and make it as worse as possible, yet playable? Would it even be interesting?

>>9917341
Never mind, TimeOfDeath (picrelated author) said it takes too much effort.

>>9917341
Depends on the angle you go with it, like how The Thing You Can't Defeat did with starting off subtle, which is kinda the wad that sparked this thing off.

>>9917095
>Boltgun
it vexes me ever so slightly when people compare it to Doom. But whatever, I hope people enjoy it, to me it's just wearing a retro skin.

>>9917351
>it vexes me ever so slightly when people compare it to Doom.
Because it's by a studio owned by the same tossers who employ Tim Willits, it had him trying to use his credentials as a Doom developer to say that Doom was always inspired by 40k.

Shit's just blatantly untrue.

>>9917356
wtf, he wasn't even at id when they came up with doom

>>9917364
This is the same idiot who tried to claim he invented DM maps, fucker's a compulsive liar.

man most of these levels are brutal, but what a banger ending

>>9917341
Sunlust The Way We Remember It

>>9917356
Oh yeah, I remember that, it was in relation to Space Marine 2...

It's such a dumb thing to say because WH40K has enough of it's own gravitation field without trying to mix DOOM into it. Regardless, Willits is a knob and let's not even get into the lengths he went to sabotage American McGee.

Is wormwood 1-3 worth playing, or it the usual ribbicks bullshit?

>>9917351
>>9917356
I'm going to be brutally honest: I've never heard of Tim Willits, and when I show my friends boltgun they never mention Tim Willitis.
It's literally just...
>It looks like doom tho
And yes you can say it doesn't, but it's the same shit with indie games.
>Woah pixel-art! It's so retro!
It's like how you'll see people say Ion Maiden is doom-like: They're normies, they're retarded.

>>9917394
It really doesn't look like Doom though, it looks like it's using models with a bunch of filters thrown on them to look like ass sprites.

Also something looks very wrong with the animations, like it's missing a lot of them or something.

>It's like how you'll see people say Ion Maiden is doom-like: They're normies, they're retarded.
It's ok just tell them this is how Doom looked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbtfoa_yu-A

>>9917394
Your friends don't know what doom looks like..

>>9917394
Well like I said, I don't get upset over people thinking it looks like Doom or whatever.
I hope the people who are excited for it like it!

>>9917403
>>9917410
Yes that's my point. It doesn't matter if you know it doesn't look like doom, to a fucking normie it does.
They use X they assume it's Y, because Y is all they know.
Don't you remember how for awhile there was a group of people that only played BrutalDoom, only mentioned BrutralDoom, and acted as if it was the only mod for Doom?
It's because they're normies, they only know the popular thing.
You show them Blood; and they will say without a hint of irony: "It's like Doom but horror." Because all they know is the popular thing.
>Also something looks very wrong with the animations, like it's missing a lot of them or something.
I figured the aesthetic was supposed to be thrown together, like it was someone slapping together their miniatures taking photos of them.
So I think it's
>intended
to feel choppy. In other words they intended to make the animations look choppy and lazy.

>>9917386
First part has to be experienced on HMP first, it will be easier to deal with archville abuse on UV with foreknowledge. Second part isn't like anything I've played by Ribbiks and has pure gimmick maps upfront.

>>9917350
>The Thing You Can't Defeat
Tried running it in ZDoom and it seemed to work, yet I got stuck on red(blue) door on E1M3 without finding a key, so maybe it actually doesn't? Author didn't provide detailed txt file, damn, off to GZDoom.

>>9916904
I honestly haven't noticed any differences in enemy behavior, IMO ZDoom has always approximated it pretty well, and I've played Crispy, PrBoom+, Doom95 (which has a lot of shit broken), and Unity.

The old MBF complevel though 11(?), has very noticeable changes though because it makes it really unlikely for monsters to target anyone but you, ergo it royally gimps infighting. That one's a buzzkill.
Doom 64 is appreciably different, given a differing ticrate, changes in weapon and monster timing, and hitbox sizes, etc. Doom 64 is buzz inducing though.

>>9917020
I don't agree, it gives you loads of incredibly helpful features. MBF21 fixes and extends Boom, and thus I love it.

>>9917063
He covered the differences with Boom, but not ZDoom. Probably because it's not as readily comparable.

>>9916982
Because I thought it really didn't matter THAT much as far as balance is concerned. I enjoy playing the game at 1080p widescreen even with freeaim, crouching, turned off. Crispy Doom is also dark as fuck

>>9917063
It definitely feels at least to me there is something going on much more significant than just RNG, unless that RNG also effects the monsters A.I to attack less aggressively and instantaneously. I swear in GZDoom monsters attack you much more instantly upon sight, track your position much faster, and they are much more likely to stay in place and block you from squeezing past them when trying to speedrun past areas. I read somewhere that GZDoom handles the way monsters are positioned on the map differently, that could be a factor.

All I know is I am having a much easier time in Crispy Doom with these mega brutal maps than I ever was in GZDoom

>>9917186
Are we naming it Gaynigger Cock Commando?

>>9917206
You can use fskywhatever for the floor to give the illusion of something floating.
>>9917530
>All I know is I am having a much easier time in Crispy Doom with these mega brutal maps than I ever was in GZDoom
Odd. I actually have an easier time with GZDoom than I do with Crispy Doom

>>9916693
If it tells you anything, the only time I've used it is to have a sourceport that works on classic MacOS.

>>9917297
>Anon should be familiar with source material for a right to use any relevant pic anyways, that's unspoken gentlemanly etiquette.
man... just come on man

>>9917252
There are lots of doom levels with multi-floor towers and dr who bigger on the inside buildings using Boom silent teleport (fuck you, Dash Tower revenants)

>>9917540
I swear to you, theres a lift that kills you instantly in Map 10 of Plutonia on GZdoom unless you have 90-100% HP because the monsters block you on all sides and there isnt enough time to kill one and escape

In Crispy the monsters just barely attack you slowly enough to get the kill in and slip out of the trap. Its this and a ton of other minor things that im having a hard time describing that make surviving these maps where once fuckup means death a lot easier

>>9917095
Don't forget
Trepang2 comes out soon. Better FEAR than the last two games.

>>9917563
I believe you, anon.
It's just odd to me.
>>9917569
>than the last two games.
It wouldn't be that hard.
But yeah all things considered it feels like we're getting a bunch of cool shooters and mods.

Haven't been in these threads in a while, is SNS/FNF still going on?

>>9917584
It's dead. Still have kart stuff going on, if you're interested.

>>9917589
How long has it been dead? What happened?

>>9917590
Sometime in March or April. I don't know what caused it to suddenly stop.

>>9917598
Sucks. What night is kart, still Wednesday?

>>9917603
It's 24/7, but you can expect the most activity on Wednesday.

>>9917095
>>System Shock 2 Enhanced trailer with announcement for consoles
Might've as well posted it. I got that covered though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mb44nDWj0

Fuck remasters, remakes and indie shooters

>>9917020
Try Crispy, Woof, or Zandronum then.

Lol doom is losing to deus ex in the /vr/ poll

>>9917631
>t.wants to LET IT ROT
BAI LAN!

>>9917325
>in June
*checks calendar*

somebody make a doom version of this with a revenant worshipping cyberdemon butt.

I'll wait here.

Where are the good 2023 fps?

>>9917569
I mean, FEAR 2 is pretty good.
My main gripe with what I've seen from Trepang 2 is that while the gameplay in the demo looked really good, I hope it's not just a collection of arenas. FEAR had (in points) good atmosphere building through the parts where you're "investigating" and your FBI tard wrangler's talking to you and the squad.

And Trepang is also re-using that lame "you're a soldier but you lost your memories!" dog shit, I think the gameplay core will be solid, mostly worried about the game's structure and hoping it won't just be sections where you get locked into a multiplayer arena for 10 minutes.

What copyright concerns was abort_m facing, and how does the "sanitized" version differ?

>>9917702
It was that meme song with the screaming cowboy in the sky. Apparently Sony made a copyright claim.

>>9917702
One of the music tracks got flagged for DMCA in a video somewhere so that caused a moral panic and it got swapped out.

>>9917707
>>9917709
Oh I know the one
A minor shame, but sounds like it's not worth the bother of getting an old version
Thanks!

I've been playing No Rest for the Living and I've heard it had some pretty detailed and polished levels but from what I've seen they seem a bit over-detailed. There's an excessive usage of textures to the point I cant appreciate the architecture. At least in those early techbase levels.

>>9917730
it was also made by an actual tranny

>>9917728
It was put on archive.org so it's not a hard find.

>>9917639
As a retail product and not counting fan wads and ports I'd say deus ex is at least on equal footing with doom 1 and 2

>>9916095
You should play Delta Force instead.

>>9917728
I know you didn't ask for it but here it is anyways, an old version with that meme music in it:
https://files.catbox.moe/ro8bid.7z

>>9917769

>>9917765
>>9917789
Ah thanks!
I was checking the wayback machine instead of the actual archive

>>9916910
>>9916916
lol I'm still around, still working on a couple vids. Real life got in the way. I plan on reviewing every /vr/ wad even 94 protons. I don't know much about waifus though.

I love myhouse.wad for finally getting me interested in playing doom
but going for the true ending is scary because I have no idea what all these enemies do

>wanna play some damn good WADs
>google
>every list has five flavors of Brutal Doom
>Doomworld doesn't have a list either, just a bunch of links to their yearly awards
>everything else points to Doomworld
This is way more difficult than I expected.
>>9917825
They shoot at you. Strafe and shoot back.

>>9917829
Play 2048 Units of /vr/

>>9917829
There was yet another best wads list the other week and it's just near enough all the most predictable stuff ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpS0p365EU

>>9917252
I keep deleting these and trying again - not even bothering texturing certain things now. The slopes were nicer when I switched to udmf but it seemed like I would have to fuck around a ton with dummy sectors just to get it to look right. Which is why I am thinking of trying out Blender and seeing how much easier this might be in full 3d.

>>9917561
Yeah I know. I just want to make it very visually this specific fort from the outside.

>>9917829
>Doomworld doesn't have a list either, just a bunch of links to their yearly awards
This thread is pretty solid and frequently updated by op
doomworld.com/forum/topic/109654-%E2%AC%86%EF%B8%8F-doomworld-community-top-wads-of-all-time-resurrected/

>>9917829
sometimes you just have to scroll way down the idgames front page, I found a fun vanillish all SSG gameplay mod (shotgunnery) that way

>>9917853
just make a lot of flat sectors and offset textures to sell the illusion of a slope
nodebuilding errors? what are those?

>>9917902
>sometimes you just have to scroll way down the idgames front page
I used to do the random thing on idgames, though I kept ending up with stuff like this.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/female

>>9917829
Cacoawards and the associated top ten wads from 94-03 lists are decent ways to find cool wads. Use doomwiki to find associated wads. Use random file on idgames archive. Read the onemandoom blog. There are a shitzillion wads, I find it hard to believe that people can't find stuff they like.

>>9917923
and even without those there's still Obsidian/Oblige/Slump/Slige to knock out maps forever.

How would one go about fucking with myhouse.wad to get rid of the backrooms teleport and the disabled-godmode fuckery?
The guy here did something where the enemy's AI was disabled at the beginning shots

>>9917950
https://youtu.be/Iq1-TZXz9xo

>>9917829
Just roll /idgames roulette till you hit the gold, or casually skim through some enticingly looking community projects you come across and look-up author names of the maps you particulary liked from them on doomwiki. Said wiki also has its share of lists and categories to sort through.

Some anons are generous enough for some fleeting recommendations, like with these recent posts. I don't know why anyone has no fancy to namedrop things they played more often, I've discovered Preacher with DBP projects by lurking here.
>>9915370
>>9915375
>>9915436
For personal example, I've just finished Sucker Punch 2 which is an easy and very short mapset with robust design, quite good for speedrunning. Only you have to play it on boom complevel, both txt file and designated pages are misleading.

Last but not the least overwhelming list
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0
https://www.digitaleidoscope.com/doom/
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aq6hP65AvD7wpHDw095vKfGEw-3A
https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/p/index-of-reviews.html
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doomer_Boards_Projects
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

Ironwail or vkQuake for Arcane Dimensions?

>>9917962
>I've discovered Preacher with DBP projects by lurking here.
You occasionally get some interesting recommendations around these parts that aren't on the usual default lists of crap to play.

Chainworm Kommando's one of those ones that sorta sticks out for me cause it was just one some anon randomly found from a barely known mapper but it got something of an interest around here.

>>9917950
Probably ran something like this.
https://jp.itch.io/doom-tourism

>>9917976
Any way to
1. Get either this or https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=73478 to work in myhouse.pk3
2. Get something akin to pic related so that triggers don't work

>>9916126
It's really more Wolf-like but there's Pathways Into Darkness.

>>9917968
ironwail, no question.

>>9917829
a recommendation for the myhouse newfriends: try imposs.wad, it's basically that map's grandfather.

>>9917829
list of unanimous approved and beloved /vr/ wads also known as /our wads/

UAC Labs
A Gamarra tribute: Gamarra's destiny
Doomguy's Warzone
Doomguy's Warzone All Stars!
30,000 Levels
Wow
NUTS
Hell Revealed 1943

>>9917968
vkQuake if you want the new particles. Ironwail runs better, but when they both give you over 500 FPS on most maps it doesn't really matter.

>>9917276
dafuq is this?

>>9917983
and by "this" I mean tourism

also console shows up if I try to use the console's screenshot command so I get a preview before I screenshot

>>9917561
Silent Teleport is very helpful. Was gonna try portals but this works well. Thanks.

>>9917660
Talk about that on /v/ and /vg/

>>9918029
Got it to work
Now
Are there any mods to make the player model use the enemy graphics?
Not necesarrily give them their powers and such, being able to spawn AND REMOVE sprites would be enough

>>9917351
Someone dedicated enough could probably make a spess muhreen gameplay mod for GZD that would be more unique and do more justice to the setting than whatever Boltgun is likely to do.

>>9918026
my map editor and engine

>>9918090
name some good indie retro shooters

>>9917563
Did you test that multiple times, or are you basing that on two individual runs? Theres so much RNG in doom two runs can go totally different regardless of the engine.

>>9917530
>It definitely feels at least to me there is something going on much more significant than just RNG, unless that RNG also effects the monsters A.I to attack less aggressively and instantaneously.
As far as I know, yes, RNG does affect the monster's attack frequency, decino has another video on monster's AI which covers that topic.
>I read somewhere that GZDoom handles the way monsters are positioned on the map differently, that could be a factor.
Yes, it's collision detection and physics are also different.
>Crispy Doom is also dark as fuck
Press F11 until it's bright enough, like most other source ports it's default settings are fucking awful and dumb. At least they're better than GZDoom's.

>>9918165
Many many times. That single lift kills me instantly in GZDoom because the pinkies attack as soon as they see you, they aggro straight to you and start biting and my health just instantly melts. But in Crispy Doom im able to consistently get past them because they spend that extra small second being retarded and running in the opposite direction giving me the chance to blast them or brush past. Its either that or their bite distance is longer in GZDoom than it is in Crispy Doom.

Not only that though, but im just having this sense that all monsters across the board are just slightly more likely to attack you in GZDoom than Crispy doom, im finding myself dodging much less Revenant rocket spam in crispy doom making the map so much easier to deal with because of that crazy revenant trap. Minigunners are also not instantly beaming for me from across the map as soon as they catch sight of me.

All of this miniscule stuff doesn't matter if you plan on playing a casual run and quicksaving your way through the map. But some of these routes on pistol start for these plutonia maps have to be so specific that these tiny details add up and when I run routes in crispy doom im noting obvious differences that overall feel easier. Im not an expert doomer by any means, im new to pistol starting these more difficult wads but its just a new thing I have noticed.

>>9918179
>Press F11 until it's bright enough
just figured this one out thanks lol

>>9918185
You sure you don't have fast monsters enabled in GZDoom? Under gameplay options?

Alright, which one of you fuckers is doing all the MyHouse threads on /v/?

>>9918235
Nobody here is wasting their time doing that, it's zoomer and their flavor of the month shit.

>>9918185
Are you playing on -fast or something? I'm not having any trouble with that lift at all. Pushing to the left corner seems to work pretty reliably. Getting past the chaingunners was the harder part of recording multiple consecutive successes here. Use the chaingun if you're not confident in pinky baiting, it's much better than the shotgun for this.

>>9917561
How do people get their silent teleporters to be so seamless? Every time I've tried it's super noticeable.

So the developer of Vkquake ragequit cus everyone moved onto IW? Lol

Could you guys recommend some recent good WADs similar to original levels using mostly default resources?

>>9918343
Scythe it's a pretty good option for Doom 2. For Doom 1 you have Jimmy Romero's Si6il and No End In Sight. Check those out :-)

>>>/wsg/5101289

cant wait until i have the shotgun going to the beat of this

>>9918343
For Doom2 there's Scythe, No Rest For The Living and Foursite (Boom). For Doom 1 you can play John Romero's Si6il and No End In SIght. For Heretic you could try Unbeliever and for HeXen there's Lost Luxury and Cyrgoth's Manor and it's sequels (GZDoom/Zandronum).

>>9918376
maybe i should add a shrink ray weapon

>>9918338
Damn for real? The dynamic lights in vkq look so much better than in iw. Compare the wall glow from lasers, it looks so cheap in iw

>>9918343
double impact, solar struggle (both for doom1)

>making some progress of my waifu map
>got a SoD, fucking pc restarts
>I lost like 50% of my progress, not even backups has been saved.
Just

>>9916012
r8 my quake 2 gameplay

>>9918443

>>9918445

>>9918446
and my quake 1 gameplay

>>9918392
>>9918419
Great and thanks! Downloaded all of them apart of Sigil which I already completed. I love playing wads like this in software mode and lowered res.

>>9918412
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/discussions/691

>>9918425
>no compulsively hitting ctrl+s after literally every change

>>9917563
I never had a problem with this lift/map on UV in GZDoom.

>>9917787
Played those years ago, didn't like them much.

>>9918376
>>9918395
Back with some good stuff. How is development going?

>>9917535
So it's going to be a sequel to DBP48 then

>>9918425
Painful, but you can redo it. Don't let it go to waste because of one setback.

>>9917425
I'm very definition of normie. Wife, office job, sports, social life, centristic moderate political views etc. Yet I know more of Doom than these so called anti-normies. I've got collection of more than 300 wads from 95 to this day. It howerer does not make in interesting or unique. It just makes me a guy that has retarded obsession to old fps games. Yet I do know that Boltgun uses UE4 and that Brutal Doom is shit mod. Regardless I will try Boltgun, because I have huge hard on for anything wh40k.

>>9918425
I had similar shit with Slade, it's a reminder to save often and keep manual backups.

is there a duke 3d mod that takes elements from the 2d duke games?

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! What the fuck have you been working on? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

NO.

>>9918896
Just about finished detailing the last outdoor area of this map. All caves from here on.

>>9917563
Haven't noticed this.

>>9917709
I don't think moral panic is the right word, unless people were whiteknighting Sony for it somehow.

>>9917829
Given that we're almost at 30 years of content now, it's gonna be tough to boil things down to any single lists, there's a lot of ifs.

Cacawards are just a bunch of opinions, but it's also worth paging through them to see if there's anything you like, there's never really anything which isn't at least above average. Don't need to play it all, feel free to turn your nosr up at stuff which seems uninteresting, but you'll probably find a dozen things you'll like.

>>9918447
>>9918446
>>9918445
>>9918443
That’s certainly some gameplay. Enjoying AD?

>>9918165
>>9918185
>>9918220
Different anon here, who is just curious. I don't know how these source ports work exactly. I just know which to use for pure vanilla play and which to use for crazy modded play or TCs but I am curious as to how much of the difference in the monsters between each port is in the frame rate and the source port math. Does frame rate automatically fuck with enemy data for ANY source port? Would any port have to take that into account and fix it when using a higher fps? If so, does that mean part of the difference between Crispy and GZDoom is purely fps? Would lowering the fps in GZDoom lessen the difference or are the overall calculations so different that it wouldn't make much of a difference?

Also, couldn't someone potentially make a monster mod for GZDoom that makes them behave more similarly to vanilla monsters? I realize the other ports are generally better for vanilla Doom. I'm just curious.

>>9918772
Even as someone who plays the actual tabletop I'm so fucking annoyed regarding everything and everyone in the 40k fanbase. They always seem to think that a thing in 40k dressing is superior and annoy me with their shitty edgelord lore dumps in this "um actually" style.

Cool universe, sure, but not everything needs to be 40k. Fuck. 40k has become the new Star Wars regarding casual attention.

>>9918961
At least it'll be funny to see modern 40k fans lose their shit once a Dune gets to the god-emperor shit.

>>9918425

>>9918961
To add to this before someone whiteknights 40k as this deep shit thats totally not casual.
You are 100% the new Star Wars drones. Star Wars fans talked about the bigger universe for decades. And as they got milked with their licensed shit, so do you. 10 games a year, boardgames, fanmerch AND the overprized shit that GW is throwing out their.

>>9918961
>dislike the process of fuckhuge lorelogs getting shoved into games
>also occasionally catch myself deepdiving into 1d4chan entries
I think I dislike this kind of stuff getting shoved into Doom or Quake because they’re much better about putting you into environments that can speak for themselves. I also like when not everything is answered, as speculating or theorizing story ideas is often more interesting to me than exchanging paragraphs of facts to each other and that doesn’t last.
This is what I like about Alkaline’s hub so much, reaching the top and realizing you’re on a weirder planet than you may have thought.

>>9918992
Not like this is anything new, GW have been shit for decades too.

>>9919004
I 100% agree with you. You've already proven you got a brain.

I bet with you that the 40k fanbase will praise Boltgun as the second coming of Christ just because it's 40k, no matter how soulless and dull it might be compared to all the other stuff we got since Dusk.

>>9919019
Vidya adaptations of 40k stuff are generally garbage so even something middling will probably get praised to all shit, especially since their target demographic is basically the Civvie audience, who will eat shit and say it's gourmet chocolate so long as they're told it's for them.

>>9918528
KWAB

>>9919023
It's still fucking hilarious to me that Chex 1.0 contains a nearly untouched version of Ultimate Doom.

>>9919024
The most fun I had in recent times with something 40k was Battlefleet Gothic 2, as I played that game in coop with my brother and the game was kinda unique.

But holy shit, there is so much crap around with the 40k label on it.

And yeah, Civvie was the open invitation to a bunch of retards into our community. The dude might be alright irl, but he spawned a whole lot of "fps experts" and Civvie wannabe youtubers that copied his style and probably played Doom 2016 waaaay before they ever touched the original.

>>9918946
yes I enjoy AD. I return to it every now and then to shit on a couple of levels. OBD and crucial error are my faves.

If they somehow combined the best parts of Hard Doom and Project Babel I think I would have the ultimate "vanilla+" experience for myself.

Probably the best Doom experience I ever had was using Project BABEL to play through a PSX Total Conversion with colored lighting and incredible SFX and locational echo added to everything.

>>9918772
Underrated post. The word "normie" has basically stopped having any meaning. It just means "person who doesn't dedicate their entire life to hobby X or share the same interests"

It used to mean people coming on 4chan and talking down the special interests like "lol y u like weird nerd thing??" instead of well, whatever people think it means now. And "normie" itself is just a diminutive version of "normalfag", pretty much everyone who uses "normie" instead of normalfag is a poser tourist to begin with..

>>9919024
I'd say that it's a mix. The Necromunda fps was a mid game, Space Hulk and Darktide seem good, Mechaniggus was apparently very good as well. Space Marine was entertaining. The real stinkers seem to have been Fire Warrior and that shitty tabletop-to-videogame Necromunda.

In general, people like what they like, as long as it doesn't affect me or my hobbies I think that pointless bellyaching about what other people like is just waste of energy.

>>9919061
I get tired of the sudden influx of those "experts" the moment he does a video on something, even parroting his opinions when he's fucked up something.
>>9919075
>The Necromunda fps was a mid game,
IDK how the E.Y.E developers managed to make that so bad.

I think for every decent adaptation there's about four terrible ones, GW really doesn't care about quality control since shit will sell to morons anyway.

I'm bored, and I need some Cultist gifs/images to build a folder

>>9918772
Make no mistake I'll probably try too it, I like 40k for the most part -- I grew up with it so it holds sentimental value. I play Tau by the way.
So when I say normie it's not the absence of being fanatically obsessed with your hobby: I mean it by what it used to be, a normalfag -- someone that feels like they're unquestioning yet arrogant in their ignorance: Someone that will talk down to the fans of the medium, being rude and inconsiderate to the fans.
I didn't say normalfag because I change my words occasionally in hopes that it might better communicate my ideas, I do curse a lot but that's just because it's a bad habit of mine and I honestly like the discussion and posters of vr.
>>9918961
It pains me whenever someone treats 40k a bit too seriously, like when I have to explain to someone: "No, the tyranids aren't going to suddenly get a massive buff because they off-handily mentioned it was a scout-fleet, they do this shit for every faction to make them sound better than they actually are."
And I know most of them are secondaries, because every time they actually play a single tabletop session of 40k: They finally shut up about the lore but it's that vibe that annoys me so. That attitude where they act like they know more than you: When their knowledge is usually based off memes and youtube videos.
>>9919004
I think there's a charm in lore that you can choose to read, not audio tapes but like manuals outside the game that tell you more about the world and backstory. I think you had a lore-element to a game players will always read it because it's in the game.

>>9919106
> I think you had a lore-element
I think if you add* a lore-element-
I'm retarded.

>>9919061
>Civvie was the open invitation to a bunch of retards into our community
The call was coming from inside the house.
Doom's just like uhh... one of the most iconic and popular game franchises in history. There's always been knuckleheads even if due to the exposure there's more of them.

>>9919087
>IDK how the E.Y.E developers managed to make that so bad.

It's funny how it's like the reverse Obsidian Entertainment situation where people praise them for their work on New Vegas but when they did Outer Worlds and no longer had the Fallout I.P as a crutch their game was really mid.

Whereas EYE was interesting due to it's very interesting I.P and Necromunda honestly could've been just about any generic shlock, it doesn't even use the WH40K license in a meaningful way.

So, what's everybody playing?

I had a go at running Winter's Fury with the Whitemare set from Final Doomer, mostly works fine minus some scripted shit, I'd forgotten just how much screen space the Whitemare weapons eat up while firing them, especially the rocket launcher.

>>9919004
>I also like when not everything is answered, as speculating or theorizing story ideas is often more interesting to me than exchanging paragraphs of facts to each other and that doesn’t last.
I'm actually on the fence about this nowadays. Thinking about story is fun, but current trends of "theories" & "unreliable narrator" (latter of which allows developers to exploit their idiotic fanbase like crazy) ruined that aspect for me and doing so nowadays make me feel dirty with a sour taste in my mouth.
On that note, HROT seemingly really exceeded its approach to narrative.

>>9919123
I finished pirate doom and I'm looking for more themed mods, probably something Asian themed[/spoiler
>>9918896
I know it's my fault but let me whine.
>USING GIMP
>EXPORTING EACH FRAME FOR A COMPLETE 8 FRAME SPRITE
>64 FUCKING FRAMES I HAD TO MANUALLY EXPORT ONE AT A TIME
>THERE'S A SINGLE MISTAKE
>HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN
Want to keep it somewhat a surprise but hopefully the effort will be appreciated by you guys when it's hopefully done.

>>9919120
>Doom's just like uhh... one of the most iconic and popular game franchises in history. There's always been knuckleheads even if due to the exposure there's more of them.
NuDoom sure didn't do it favors though, basically took stupid in-jokes the community had and turned it back into branding to sell to a new audience.
>It's funny how it's like the reverse Obsidian Entertainment situation where people praise them for their work on New Vegas but when they did Outer Worlds and no longer had the Fallout I.P as a crutch their game was really mid.
They lost a lot of the key people between those times, also nobody wants to have Chris Avellone near their stuff after what went down with him.
>Whereas EYE was interesting due to it's very interesting I.P and Necromunda honestly could've been just about any generic shlock, it doesn't even use the WH40K license in a meaningful way.
It's kinda sad, E.Y.E was based on 40k because they were fans of it way before it's current popularity, and they sold their company out to be able to make 40k games for reals and they're just not that great.

They'd have been better off sticking to their own IP and really building a name for themselves that way.

>>9919123
Takeing a small break from Jamal Jones to play wormwood 1

>>9919134
>probably something Asian themed
Some of the DBP maps are Asian themed, there's also obviously the Japanese Community Pack and Abysm 2 Spirit Falcon

>>9919134
Sometimes I'm genuinely impressed at how much I fuck up.
>>9919142
Thanks, anon. Will check them out.

>>9919120
I have to disagree there. Sure, there was always some interest in retro fps, as much as there is still an interest in old jrpgs or rts or hell, even p&c adventures like monkey island. But you can't deny the impact that Civvie and his ripoffs had to bring it all to the casual audience. I guess he shares this "honor" with Id and Doom 2016.
And for those that were here when 2016 and even worse Eternal dropped, it ruined the thread for weeks or months. As the other anon said, once Civvie drops a video on something, it takes a day or two before you got some morons here chilling the game and pretending to be experts. I remember that some idiots even started to bring up Thief here as he started his series on that game.
Fuck that!

>>9919137
True-er words have never been spoken before. Instead of doing some 40k shlock, do your own thing.

>>9919149
>I remember that some idiots even started to bring up Thief here as he started his series on that game.
>Fuck that!
Yeah how dare people discuss video games instead of moan and type paragraphs about e-celeb bullshit

>>9919120
>>9919149
Civvie is also just actively not very good. His review of The Suffering is a good example for what I am talking about. Sure the game has gameplay problems, but he lazily chalks everything the game is talking about and trying to say to it being "2000's edgy" when no, The Suffering is trying to talk in whatever capacity it can about imprisonment, crime, punishment... whether punishment is deserved, the role of those who dispense punishment...
The three spirits who talk to you during the game are a great example of this, each with their own perspective based on their own experiences. Even the fact that the main character's innocence in the act is a key part of all of this working.
It's just all wrapped up in a slightly above average mid 2000's Third person shooter.

But all that gets swept away with "Mid 2000's edgy" in the most brainlet way possible.

>>9919169
He gets by on extremely well paced and edited videos. If you have good presentation, humor, and aren't boring you are going to find an audience. You people need to stop being so salty about him, he's just trying to entertain people.

It's good that people like him exist so these retro game communities don't die out completely. Zoomers arent going to go paroozing around doom forums, these old dusty parts of the internet are going to get buried and die out eventually.

Doomreal in Q2Reborn

>>9916095
I just started playing HD, it seems fun though very difficult.
>>9916104
>>9916114
Just to piggyback off this - are there any recommended maps for HD that are like, warrens? Hard to really explain what I mean but really dense, intricate catacombs type levels.

>>9919169
Why the shit are there icons all the fuck over your screen?

>>9919203
New mod idea.

>>9919214
been done already.

>>9919214
needs the hot pink fuzzy dice from Booster.

>>9919219
Did that mod ever get finished?

>>9919203
We have such sights to show you

>>9919220
it did actually.

>>9919220
Yep, got a 1.0 release, it's Hellshots Golf that didn't get it's final update but I don't blame the dude for that.

Any Plutonia "sequels" except 2 and RCP1/2 worth playing?

>>9919223
Which icon tells me what kind of burger the monster you're aiming at likes the most?

>>9919236
Plutinya

>>9919061
>Civvie
>cringe humor
>"AWREGHT GUYS, LETZ PLAY SUME FOCKIN DOOM AND KILL SOME BASTERD LAEK A PRO"
>Plays in Gzdoom with some shitty fancy mods on it.
that's why i want e-celeb retards to pay high taxes with their shitty content.

>>9919241
Seconding this, it's one of those pretty neat 1024 units wads.

>>9918585
Pretty good. I am on the verge of a large optimization, the map editor and engine have reached parity, and I'm about to add actual shooting now.

>>9919214
aetherius already exists

>>9919236
Cydonia

>>9919245
I liked when Civvie took a dump on you faggots for claiming Shadow Warrior is too hard and requires level pre-knowledge to win lmao. You guys suck.

Why are you guys so shitty at video games?

>>9919270
Civvie savescums through every game he plays.

>>9919260
>>9919215
It's not enough though!
Where's the cum level?
Where's the backstory element that displays their entire life story?
Where's the tomadachi viewer?
We need more hud elements.

>>9919245
>Smooth Doom
>shitty fancy mod

>>9919149
>As the other anon said, once Civvie drops a video on something, it takes a day or two before you got some morons here chilling the game and pretending to be experts.
Hey, get ready for Blake Stone discussions starting tomorrow... or now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-zFMpmfUU

>>9919249
>Pretty good. I am on the verge of a large optimization
Sounds pretty awesome. Good luck with this project and keep up updated.

>>9919270
are you really projecting this hard, civvie? get laid you crippled fat fuck.

I dont really mind civvie for the most part but the fact that he has this made up 'Katie' woman editor is so sad it makes me cringe.

>>9919106
>I think there's a charm in lore that you can choose to read, not audio tapes but like manuals outside the game that tell you more about the world and backstory.
If I had to choose, I’d rather something like that be delivered through in-game methods. I wouldn’t read a big block of text in AD’s readme about Leptis Magna’s story, but I did enjoy coming across the story bits while noting minor details in its level.
>>9919124
Ultimately I think “keeping it simple” should be at the top for these kinds of games when it comes to any story or narrative.

>>9919319
Aw yeah, it's that one game where you shoot south american looking guys

Was playing Fistful of Doom last night and now I want to make a Western TC but I know nothing about mapping, editing sprites or anything really.

>>9919384
No better time than the present to start learning.

>>9919384
Everybody's got to start somewhere and Outlaws is made of fitting assets.

>>9919319
>Hey, get ready for Blake Stone discussions starting tomorrow... or now.
Get ready for the BLAKE STONE WEBM SPAM

>>9919319
>ends with his saying his fans nagged him into covering Boltgun
He's got the audience he wanted, also shit sure was called earlier in the thread.

It's over
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135849-time-to-cancel-john-carmack/

>>9919190
Make your own and call it Warren Inspector

>>9919236
Plutonium Winds
Skepland
Chronicles of Ghost Town

>>9919319
sweet!

blake stone first fps I got as a kid

>>9919339
It's just another "bit" in his videos. He doesn't usually overdo it.

>>9919181
I disagree with your view on forums, but I do agree that like or dislike Civvie, there's no reason to get angry about him, he's an entertainer. He's not "damaging the cum-unity" imho.

Is it a bit silly when he spawns self-made "experts" ? Yeah. Is there any lasting harm? Not really, and browsing some comments on his videos I see people giivng these classic shooters a chance and becoming fans. Awesome!

In my personal view he's usually able to really distill what makes a lot of these games "click" even if I disagree with some of his views (like overdoing the fingerwagging at "sexist" stuff).
These days I prefer to watch decino for DOOM etc but I think Civvie's solid entertainment.

Carmack is getting cancelled

>>9919123
Working slowly through BTSX and also some E1M3 in 'vanilla' GZDoom.

>>9919203
Doom EXP. It's shit-tier but way more fun than it should be.

That save is pretty far into a run. There's a lot of neat stuff from other mods chucked into it for fun.

>>9919502
Looking at it makes it seem like a more recent take on ProDoomer or something.

>>9917825
>>9918235
With how popular empty buildings are more people should be directed to play not watch Total Chaos

>>9916097
That green beam from the scanner makes it look like you're pissing on him

>>9919434
Wow, so doom modding scene being full of trannies is true. Shame

>>9919004
>1d4chan
They're finally back?
Love can bloom once again

>>9919123
Just finished Anomaly Report with Rebel Rumble, really liked the mod and I felt the wad fit really well.

Will probably play the rest of HROT before picking a new wad to get through.

>>9919512
I tried it but didn't get on with it's weapon animations, though it is weird how many people praised the shit out of it for looking modern but never touched it.

Retard here
I get BRUTAL DOOM and right now im playing in hardest realistic mode. Amazing! do you have any recomendations about configuration that takes the game to another level of fun or better mechanics just to name a few things? There's a lot of options i just cant deal with it but want more
I thinking about change the music mod to

hey guys, do you know any other wads like myhouse.pk3? kthxbai

>>9919529
>looking modern
lmao what? Who in his right mind would think TC looks modern?
And combat wise, it's yet another example of why first person melee is almost always a terrible idea

>>9919434
Quickly browsing the thread, aside from the salty OP Ia lot of the comments are kinda like "what's there to cancel him from?" or alternatively thinking that he's not like himself done anything?

>>9919214
needs vtuber avatar and donation pop-ups

>>9919538
>lmao what? Who in his right mind would think TC looks modern?
It's not sprite-based and does the generic spooly scary first person horror game shit so this crap looks modern to a lot of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_faIycnKGU

La Tailor Girl is way too silly to be as good as it is

>>9919535
Here's the prototype to myhouse, which was actually made by anons in these threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEhS-Go0LRU

>>9919446
Damn that's actually a pretty good pun and name. I might have to, and make it a real piece of shit too.

>>9919529
>>9919538
I can see why the combat would be offputting but I liked the rhythm of it and the shotgun being a one shot problem solver, combined with its sound effect and the instrumental lick when an enemy dies, was really satisfying.
If you can handle chapter 2 and 3 at their sloggiest you can see it through to the end

>>9919570
It's so fucking much fun just from the gameplay variety you get also the ass and tiddies.

Art style is neat too, you're sure not going to mix it up with other mods.

>>9919578
You'd have to do some kind of combination lock door that only opens to 0451.

>>9919527
Why not play the rest of the X00 Minutes of /vr/ series?

>>9919024
>>9919061
We had a bunch of unbearable 12 year olds flood in with Brutal Doom back when it took off, but we survived it. We'll weather the dumbfucks, some of them will grow and mature.

>>9919535
Doom 2 Map16

>>9918896
Was busy most of the week, fiddled a bit with a custom monster attack
https://youtu.be/_evVmMgSGzU

>>9919598
I've already played 400, I'll get around to 100 and 300 eventually though

>>9919593
I'm not smart enough for that. Because what I want is an interconnected series of burrows and mazelike rooms, my idea was just to start scribbling down in a pad and use as a base what I can remember of famous maps from Warren Spector games.
Doom can't do one room over another though, can it. You can do some fuckery with teleports though, right?

Now THIS is my kind of weapon pack.

What are some maps that would be cool to play with this?

>>9919686
Enemy pack recommendations also welcome.

>>9919667
3d floors let's you have one or more floors over each other:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5rsLrwFlhME&pp=ygUOM2QgZmxvb3JzIGRvb20%3D

>>9919515
This is why I’m uncomfortable using the yellow laser sight.
>>9919519
Yeah now they can get up to speed on that big lion/tiger dude, my fellow blaster fodder.

>>9918425
That fucking sucks, but keep going. Do it for your waifu.

>>9919239
You gotta check the wiki for that senpai, sorry.

>>9919535
UAC Military Nightmare

>>9917121
Yes, and no. I remember him enjoying it.

>>9918896
Things that needs to be done.

>beat yet another megawad
>feel absolutely zero fucking thing
I'm starting to think I don't like Doom.
It's the first megawad I've cleared since maybe 2019 or so, having played maybe around 6 or 7 in total to completion.
Honestly I'm just done. Fuck these braindead enemies. Fuck this switch/keycard hunting bullshit. Fuck cacodemons, fuck revenants, fuck pinkies, fuck it all.

>>9919762
See you tomorrow

>>9919762
The best prerequisite for making your own megawad just the way YOU like it, with blackjack and hookers.

>>9919762
Sounds like you need a palette cleanser. Play another game. If not a retro fps, try something completely different!

And / or try out some shorter wads, Megawads can easily burn you out.

>>9919762
Play a TC, Bloom or Adventures of Square or just something that isn't straight up Doom.

>>9919762
play with mods

>>9919809
nta, suggest some TCs

>>9919686

get 3d monsters

>>9919686
I had run running it with Valiant.

>>9919349
>Ultimately I think “keeping it simple” should be at the top for these kinds of games when it comes to any story or narrative.
Oh yeah. I'm hungry for this approach.
>>9919487
Then you should contribute, anon! Pick it up again.
>>9919492
>He doesn't usually overdo it.
If only Civvie could avoid overdoing other gags like Sewer Court thing (seriously, it feels like he was basically forced to bring it back after some viewers cried about it). He's okay, but there're ways for him to improve.
>>9919762
Redirect your attention, as >>9919797 said. Even if it really turns out that DOOM isn't your thing, that's alright. There're still plenty of older FPS you can try and find what suits you better.

>>9919836
>>9919839
Very good recommendations. Thanks frens.

Please excuse the Webm quality, getting it below 4MB wasn't easy.

>>9917603
>>9917608
You fags wanna kart at 6 today?

>>9919705
>big lion/tiger dude
. . .what?

How many maps have been sent in for violent rumble 2?

Are there any wads (single maps or multimap) that give a similar feel to something like the Paris Catacombs?
Cramped, narrow extensive maze-like stuff.

>>9919938
Thatcher's Techbase is pretty big, but Foursite is HUGE. Took me over two hours to beat, IIRC.

>>9919531
If you're serious consider getting Meat Grinder (by the same guy as the first brutal doom) with the enemies only, they behave similarly and have the same stats as normal enemies so the groups of enemies in levels aren't way more or less deadly than they should be (imps are way too aggressive in brutal doom and it makes modern maps too hard) but they still have smooth animations, particle effects, and gore
And you could run it with a separate player/weapon mod to try out a lot of things

>>9919914
If serious saturday won't suck me in, sure.

>>9919938
>Paris Catacombs
I'm once again reminded of the found footage of some guy getting lost in the catacombs and running into the darkness in panic after he dropped his phone, never to be found again.
And also the ancient /b/ thread.

>>9919950
I mean, As Above So Below as well - watched that last year for halloween, highly recommend it.
I want stuff that gives me a feeling like that. (plus if it can be played alright in Hideous Destructor)

>>9919941
Thanks, I'll take a look at those!

>>9919938
The closet in myhouse.wad. Fuck this shit, seriously.

>>9919957
I started playing HD after playing myhouse.wad, tried Going Down but the default Doom gameplay wasn't scratching the itch - I've been trying to find weird winchester house type wads to play since then

>>9919924
“1d4chan getting up to speed about the lion guy” is regarding the wiki being updated with info about the newly released primarch model, it’s just 40k stuff.

How do you guys organize your mods?

>>9919969
mods folder.

>>9919969
A fucking lot of folders and subfolders and dragging+dropping into ZDL

>>9919836
this gives me jDoom flashbacks

>>9919974
I'm about to start doing it like this but I REALLY don't want to

>>9919667
I think the core trait of Spector's immersive sims is giving the player multiple approaches to the same situation. Deus Ex's Battery Park subway with the hostages comes to mind: you can take the stairs and go in guns blazing, or sneak in through the vents, for example. As long as the maps stick to this principle (multiple entry points to arenas, hidden goodies that enable new strategies, ways to avoid dangerous encounters, etc.), they'll be worthy of the name.

>>9919941
>Thatcher's Techbase
>fuckton of news articles
>even has its own damn wiki page

>>9919983
It's a solid mod to pair with certain gameplay mods that add 3D models, Doom Tournament being a great example.

Also holy shit you can even turn on the announcer and auto-taunts. This mod's everything I could have ever wanted.

>>9919984
It's a massive fucking fucking pain to start with but it makes life so much easier in the long run.
>>9919995
>Also holy shit you can even turn on the announcer and auto-taunts. This mod's everything I could have ever wanted.
For better or worse, that developer always had an eye for those sort of details.

>>9919991
It's some depressing shit that's for sure, even more so that there were other developers cheering and saying more wads and mods need to be political so they get seen.

>>9919686
What is it?

>>9920018
Doom Tournament, it's a pretty faithful recreation of UT99.

>>9919991
it's fucking retarded I know. not into politics myself but the wad is not even that impressive or fun. it's just whatever mediocre wad you can find on idgames.

>>9919969
a folder for each pwad, and then a config.json file with the files to load, description, rating, mod-specific settings etc for an autistic TUI launcher I made

>>9920008
I didn't play it. Does it even have any kind of actual political messaging or is it just "dude thatcher lmao"

I just can't play it anymore. And te fact that every single modder with female (nick)name is most likely the same and it's only a matter of time before they pull another bullshit makes me sad

>>9919991
Pinochestein 3D has it's own wiki page for some whatever reason, it wasn't even popular back in the day and the mod got a terrible reception for being unplayable pile of shit.

>>9920002
As someone whose all-time favorite multiplayer FPS is UT99, I'd argue that's for the better...

...fuck. He's the one who got outed as a groomer/pedo isn't he?

Okay Foursite seems like the kind of thing I was looking for - would like something less high-tech seeming, but so far I've liked the layout of the map, nice tight corridors, the kind of shit I can actually deal with on HD.
also
I'm pretty sure on HD all these scenery corpses are not great.

are major arlene's maps even that good?

>>9920053
frag energy can make any dead marine prop come to life and headshot you within the span of a single second at literally any moment
I play with Ugly As Sin which lets you set the % of frag that spawns, which I just put to 0 because there are already enough ways for enemies to respawn without frag

how did deus ex and oot beat doom?

>>9920057
Not really, they're mostly visual shit and not all that much effort in encounter design.

>>9920062
No idea what you're talking about but ""immersive sims"" meme and its consequences have been a disaster for vidya.

>>9919935
2, but supposedly there's like 3 being worked on

>>9920074
He's dragging that stupid poll thread in here.

>>9920057
https://doomer.boards.net/post/36339/thread

>>9920074
Surely you meant ""roguelikes""?

>>9920074
yeah we get it ss1 filtered you

>>9919949
I'll be idling on the server for a few minutes. Here's the usual stuff
https://mega.nz/folder/YA1gEaZI#ORB7j-vSJ9IHaGnJGEQm7g
51.161.34.159

>>9919762
Don't play Megawads. Play single maps or wads with only an episodes worth, also look for wads that are less sprawling and more straightforward. I get sick of key hunting too, I prefer navigating levels and fighting monsters.

Also consider trying some gameplay mods.

>>9919827
Pirate Doom, Golden Souls Remastered and Golden Souls 2.

>>9919938
>>9919950
You guys made me want to read about the Catacombs, and thanks to you I am now aware of this:
>During 2004, police discovered a fully equipped movie theater in an area of the catacombs underneath the Trocadéro. It was equipped with a giant cinema screen, seats for the audience, projection equipment, film reels of recent thrillers and film noir classics, a fully stocked bar, and a complete restaurant with tables and chairs. The group les UX took responsibility for the installation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_UX
Now I want a catacomb map with a secret cinema room full of demons watching Imp Encounter

>>9919969
>Autoload folder
>Gameplay mod folder
>Mapsets I'm gonna play folder
>Mapsets I liked and would play again folder

>>9919969
By date modified.

>>9919123
I was actually doing the same exact run. Got sidetracked by a DRLA run except I can't find a fun map for that kind of run. I tried some DBP maps but they didn't feel right with DRLA.

so whats a good combo for overpowered mods like Doom Incarnate? I want to play because goth vamp gf

>>9919969
two folders, mods and wads, and rocket launcher 2.0 to save configs

>>9919969
ONE BIG FOLDER WITH ALL MY WADS AND MODS
with a second folder for any zip files containing wads which I extract into the big folder

>>9920084
>literally giving herself a cacoward
L.M.A.O

>>9920124
Colourful Hell is probably one of the most bullshit monster replacers for when you want to play pillowblaster mods and find something that doesn't die in one hit

>>9920098
>Parisian's authorities oppose the group's actions and have started a police unit to track the group through the sewers and catacombs of Paris in an attempt to apprehend and charge its members.
1: why?
2: playing hide and seek with the parisian police in the catacombs is some extremely deus ex shit

>>9920145
Will look into that, thanks!

Anyone played Wolfenstein X? What did you think of it?

>>9919836
Which .pk3 is this, I looked up '3D monsters' and a bunch of different mods showed up.

Playing Scythe for the first time and really enjoying its short and sweet maps. Was wading through the larer Plutonia levels, and while I really like first few maps there (up to archviles), 20+ maps there become too big and too slow to my taste. What would be some Scythe-like megawad, with small levels and with sub-plutonia difficulty? Using non-orthodox setup (delta-touch+controller+brutal doom on iatytd), but that is not really important.

>>9919743
I like how moody it looks.

>>9920145
holy this is nice

>>9920167
https://www.moddb.com/games/doom/addons/vanilla-doom-3d-models-for-doom-i-ii

This is the one I decided to use with Doom Tournament.

>>9920036
>or is it just "dude thatcher lmao"
Pretty much that but it was enough to get the attention they wanted.
>>9920178
I forgot how annoying that hud got, I ended up doing an edit to it to remove the coloured outlines of keys/cards you don't yet have when I last played it because shit was distracting.