/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9909432

how have i never played this game?
sinistral is such a cool word for such a mundane meaning, but there is something subtly... sinister about a bunch of southpaws.

>>9909648
>Sinistral and dextral, in some scientific fields, are the two types of chirality ("handedness") or relative direction. The terms are derived from the Latin words for "left" (sinister) and "right" (dexter).
That's probably why.

>>9909432

>>9909624
kino
>>9909648
play this game. its so fucking good
>>9909680
tia best waifu

>>9909432
Love Lufia 2 but never got around playing the first one
I know it's not as good but is still worth playing? like it still a worthy experience?

>>9909689
its basically an NES rpg except on the SNES. its not bad just very archaic

>>9909654
yeah, i know.
i actually work with a guy famous for first demonstrating left-handed metamaterials. he wanted to come up with a cool name for a company that specialized in this tech, but the latin root word sinister made it difficult.

shoutout to the greatest character in all of fiction

>>9909648
>>9909654
I have not played this game in the original japanese but I can absolutely guarantee you that the big bad is called the "maou" and his 4 big generals are the "shitennou"

such a creative culture

>>9909760
i mean the big bad is one of the four
unless you count arek but like cmon

>>9909432
Its no FF2.

i remember this game
it was a lot of fun
it introduced me to some stupid anime memes like the childhood friend without realizing they were anime
i still remember to this day there was something at the end that i thought you could unlock or whatnot but never figured out
also the debug bug menu thing was fun to mess around with

>>9909648
>Beat the first sinister
>Haha u die anyway
I'm still fucking mad.

>>9909432
I really love Lufia 2's style of pixel art, everything about the colors is extremely vibrant and colorful. It's not the most detailed art but the color compositions go so well.

Hell yeah anon, fucking love Lufia 2. Wish it got more love, but wygd? Series is essentially dead with Neverland being defunct and Square-Enix just holding the IP on top of the remake being a complete bomb.

>>9909689
Eh, if you have patience for NES-tier RPGs its managable, but 2 blows it out the water in basically every regard. Good soundtrack though.

The Legend Returns on the GBC, while not as good as 2, is still really solid and I recommend it.

Lufia 2 rocks. Highly recommended. The Zelda puzzles+RPG battles works really well. I love the monster points and the item points. It’s very breezy and never makes you sit around and grind or anything.
The story is pretty tropey but something I think the game does pretty well is how the dialogue provides a sense of camaraderie in the party. They actually come off as battle-worn friends which is something most RPGs of the era can’t speak to. I also like how the love triangle is handled. Tia doesn’t sacrifice herself or go evil because she can’t have Maxim. She just realizes what’s going on and leaves the party. A sort of realistic and mature move for the genre. The translation can be pretty out there though, they had no idea how to translate “gods” within Nintendo’s parameters. I think there’s a town towards the end of the game that just has gibberish text as wel or maybe I’m thinking of something else.

>>9911971
something something why no good evil ones

>>9911923
i actually liked the remake but i can admit its a lot better as its own game than a remake
that's getting into dangerous not-retro territory though

>>9909432
You love mediocre garbage with a terrible story full of plotholes?
I don't get lufiafags. Must be the "first rpg" syndrome; like that girl who's been obsessed with this crappy series for nearly 2 decades.

Im playing the rom hack Frue Lufia right now and am having fun. The story seems pretty bare bones but the puzzles are lots of fun and I really like the special abilities that are tied to certain equipment

Anyone got a quick rundown on Arek the Absolute?

>>9912880
Me too fren - I've said it before; More remakes should have the nuts to actually be a complete re-imagining instead of a tepid do-over that fails to capture the spark of the original. Far more interesting that way.

>>9909701

>Only playable character with his own theme song (Was previously meant for another scene but Shiono thought Dekar was such a chad he officially made it his theme)
>Some twink faggot walks up to his castle; Proceeds to beat the shit out of his pals and spares a jelly so his liegue gets something to kill
>Negative INT, Giga STR; Absolute peak build
>So broken the game has to write him out of the plot once you get the Dekar Blade
>His bloodline eventually becomes royalty and he gets a rad Pirate Son who roams the ocean and wrestles squids

Yup, I'm thinking based

>>9913092
The story is bad because the localisation is bad. I wonder if the Japanese writing is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47jSI0ehzW8

>>9909648

>>9914601
I did this screenshot several years ago

>>9913092
>actually hard dungeon puzzles
>roguelike sidegame
>dekar
>emotional ending
>greatest soundtrack on the entire snes
>dekar
>actual characters with super real writing
>dekar
>dekar
>a good sense of humor
>beautiful artstyle
>dekar
i literally only played it for the first time like a year and a half ago. ive played countless rpgs before that, you just have shit taste.
also don't shit on sinrevi seh's a pretty cool gal who doesn't afraid of anything
>>9914603
finish lufia 5 already blackbelt bobman

>>9914728
Based Sinrevi chad

Does she have autism? I always found her to be fascinating in how single-mindedly devoted she is to Lufia

>>9914737
idk but she's pretty cool I've talked to her a bit

>>9913208
fun fact, the title of that hack comes from a typo in Lufia 3 (which is a great game in its own right, highly recommend)

>>9909701
>>9913946
>Dekar Blade
>in many JRPGs like Final Fantasy, a character's ultimate weapon is based on legendary weapons like Excalibur, Masamune, Murasame, etc..
>Dekar's is named after Dekar himself
Unfathomably based.

>>9914892
dude's a fucking legend

what did everyone think of the heavily armored sinistrals from TLR? i think they're neat

Would anyone be interested in a group romhacking of lufia? The ip is essentially dead and we could run wild on it

>>9909432
Bump. Currently 27 hours in on my first play through. Just got the submarine ability. I’ts the frue Lufia hack

>>9909690
Bullshit and you know it

>>9916161
idk i liked it

>>9915556
I always thought that Daos and Amon looked kickass there

>>9915626
What'd ya have in mind?

>>9915556
Unironically rad as fuck, its too bad TLR never got a direct sequel - I would have loved to see what Ruins Chasers would had done with the Sinistrals since currently it kind of ends on the same "To be continued" note 1 and 2 does with how the Sinistrals are gone but implied to come back

>>9915556
>Lufia 2 lets you beat Gades
>TLR does the same thing but makes it even harder, on top of letting you do the same thing during the refights and with Amon

Always enjoyed that they doubled down on such a small detail

LILY SEXO

>The design documents for Ruins Chasers complete with concept art were found in a warehouse by some Jap Janitor who put them up on Ebay
>He asked for a ridiculous amount of money and the Lufia fanbase is too niche/small and lacks the community to pool their money and autism to purchase it
>Nobody knows what happened to it afterwards

I just want Ruins Chasers, bros

>>9917434
How are the GBC and DS games by the way?

>>9916352
Fair enough but the word “archaic” isn’t the word that comes to mind. Especially later when you the puzzles and combat really get good. It’s like ALTTP meets JRPG

>>9917481
GBC game is great; Its biggest problem is the dungeons being very samey on top of being procedurally generated and having no puzzles, but I feel the meatier combat system makes up for it. Great soundtrack if you are a fan of the GBC soundchip. Unfortunately the translation is a bit rough around the edges which sort of undermines some of the drama, really wish it had a proper re-translation.

The DS game is controversial, but personally I like it; Its a complete departure from Lufia 2 in every way except sharing characters and most of the overall story beats. Truly a reimagining rather than a remake and better for it IMO. For someone who has played the original to death, its a very fresh way to experience the game. It also gives Tia a happier end without fucking up the original ending

>>9916971
Maybe have a wacky 4chan story, change some sprites, mess around with dungeon layout etc. It might be a really fun group ptoject

>>9917495
Thanks I’ll check that out

>>9917495
How’s the ruins of lore for the GBA?

>>9917587
What's your skillset?

>>9917965
nta, but i'd disassemble and comment this shit if i could get a patreon going for it and make some living money

>>9917965
I'm an illustrator with a healthy ig following. I don't want to do myself because I do commercial work. But I'm working on creating a separate identity to make coomer stuff. I'm also learning pixel art.
>>9917973
I want to make content about romhacking, if we could drum up enough interest it might help you make more $ in the long run.

>>9918035
Ah, an idea guy. Very valuable.

>>9918035
Sp 'does myself'. If anyone wants me to prove my illustration skill I'd be willing to post a lewd sketch from something someone here suggests.

>>9918041
Dox myself (stupid spell check)

>>9918041
Selan pregnant lewds.

>>9918047
Fuck, can it not be gross please? I'm also early in lufia, I'm past the guys stealing the kings crown and retrieving it

>>9918051
>pregnancy gross
Kill yourself, jew/tranny.

>>9915626
sign me the hell up

>>9918096
we could call it "/vr/ue lufia" lol

>>9918106
That's actually a good name

>>9918124
>>9918106
I made a discord link

https://discord.gg/FykqvRMk

>>9918130
Haha, good luck with that.

>>9918130
If anyone wants to brainstorm with us please join the discord. If this thread gets archived I'll start a new one

>>9918248
Kill yourself.

should I play Lufia 1 before 2?

>>9918305
no. 1 is honestly a pretty miserable experience to play. if you want the story, im sure you can find videos on youtube. however, 2 is a prequel and takes place before it anyway, so you lose nothing by playing 2 first.

i've only gone through the tutorial dungeon and i'm already digging this game.
the gameplay feels like golden sun mixed with chrono trigger.

>>9918305
Play Frue Lufia and or any improvements on Lufia 2 you fancy. Same game, better experience. But you can skip Lufia I either way

>>9918474
The dungeon puzzles get way better and more intricate as time goes on

>>9918248
lurk moar newfag

>>9909432
Didn't these games all have garbage translations? Why aren't there any fan translations out there?
I swear to god someday I need to learn moonrunes so I don't have to rely on other autists to fix America's fuck ups.

>>9918907
there is. ever heard of frue lufia?

>>9918910
I don't like romhacks that overextend and try to """rebalance""" the game based on some random nerds' opinions. I just want accurate proper translations. Not fixes and other bullshit. FFVI has the same problem. Nobody wants to just translate it, they want to make GBA/Woolsey hybrids or finetune the game to their autistic standards.

>>9918912
>filtered by "gorem"

>>9918913
Sorry I haven't boned up on Lufia buzzwords but I'm not playing a game that some egocentric autismo thinks he can balance better than the original devs.

>>9918916
the issue is not that frue filtered you but that the original translation in all its '90s sovl filtered you

>>9918918
>filtered filtered filtered
Fuck off /v/fag. I didn't download it to begin with. As soon as a romhack starts talking about fucking with the original game I close the tab. The best version of every game is the original. That's why the best western releases are the ones with the most focused no-nonsense translations.

>'90s sovl
kys there's nothing soulful about it. It's literally a guy romanizing Japanese words without thinking for two seconds about what they mean.

The IP system is like Limit Breaks but way better

I’m currently doing Dragon Mountain. Anyone who said the puzzles and combat are too easy has obviously never made it this far in the game is all I can say

>>9918967
But it’s entirely based on your current equipment. It keeps it interesting

What did you guys think of the remake?

>>9919523
Dropped it the moment it demanded some braindead "mash the A button" shit.

>>9918912
Frue Lufia is 100% just grammatical/spelling fixes, along with other minor bugs. It really is the optimal way to play.

>>9909624
Sovl

>>9918653
i'm about 4 hours into the game now and some of the puzzles put lttp to shame

Yo I’m getting filtered hard by the ghost-ship boss. How do I beat it?

>>9921253
30 hours infirst playthrough. The puzzles are better than lttp . What a unique game. Definitely in the my top 3 snes jrpg along with bof2 and ff6.

Did anyone play Ruins of Lore? Its the one entry I haven't bothered with since it always seemed like such a weird entry what with not being made by Neverland and being a gaiden game after the events of 2.

>>9922362
I just remember it being strange, with way fucked up battle balance where you'd stomp through enemies normally and suddenly one would rape you. Class system was unsatisfying. Battle themes were objectively bangers

>>9909432
I beat it a while ago and thought it was pretty mediocre
Lufia 1 at least had some charm while Lufia 2 was a linear snoozefest with the only redeeming point to it being the puzzles
Even the music was pretty meh and forgettable apart from the overworld theme and the battle themes

I got hard filtered by some stupid color tile puzzle late in the game back in the 90s. Shit makes me mad to this day.

>>9909760
They're just referred to as 神
On the contrary I hate the west's obsession with overly complex names just for the sake of sounding creative and le unique
Which is why we have nerdy as fuck titles like Anachronox in the West while Japan has cool and simple titles like Chrono Trigger

>>9909760
They're just referred to as 狂神(Kyo-shin aka Mad Gods)
On the contrary I hate the west's obsession with overly complex names just for the sake of sounding creative and le unique
Which is why we have nerdy as fuck titles like Anachronox in the West while Japan has cool and simple titles like Chrono Trigger

>>9909760
Actually you're wrong
They are called the 四狂神(Shi Kyou Shin or Four Mad Gods)
"Shi" is also known in Japanese as Death(as in Shinai/Shinee) so there's a double-entendre going there too

>>9909689
I thought Lufia 2 was really boring
I preferred the first one even though it was slower, at least it had some charm and Lufia(the character) is better than any character in 2.

>>9913092
>like that girl who's been obsessed with this crappy series for nearly 2 decades
Whom?

>>9913948
It had nothing to do with the localization though
The story in Lufia games is nothing special
There's not much story to them
The only thing memorable and kinda unique is the ending to Lufia 1
>But muh wedding in Lufia 2
Just a DQ5 ripoff

>>9914728
>emotional ending
Not really, I didn't get that attached to Maxim and Selan so I didnt care about the ending and Lufia 1 spoiling it doesn't help matters
Lufia 1's ending was better because Lufia is the only likeable character in the series and the twist at the end was pretty surprising

>greatest soundtrack on the entire snes
The soundtrack is really mediocre apart from the battle themes
You have to have garbage taste to think it's the best one in the SNES when most of the soundtrack is forgettable(not to mention the dungeon music actually sucks)

>actual characters with super real writing
Lol

>beautiful artstyle
Eh, the art style is a weak point
The graphics are also pretty bleh

>Dekar Dekar Dekar
>Muh Dekar
He's a generic cliche

>>9919536
That's literally the original in a nutshell you moron

>>9922491
Please show me the moment in the original where I had to mash a button like this.

>>9922501
99% of battles are just mash the confirm button

>>9919523
It did a great job of killing off the franchise.

>>9922501
Is this the DS Lufia?

how long is this game?