/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9803556/#9803715

FORE/VR/ ALONE
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9890843/#9896579

=== NEWS ===
[5-10] New Hexen II map using Shadows of Chaos mod
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62245

[5-7] New Doom II RPG Port available
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135602

[5-5] Quofee 2 released : 132 vanilla Quake speedmaps
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quoffee2_final.html

[5-4] Woof! 11.0 released with many new features
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.0.0

[5-2] Combined_Arms Gaiden has been updated to version 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocXJAHKO4Wo

[5-2] DBP58: Immortal Warfare has released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuofyq7afblzuzv/DBP_58.zip

[5-1] DNF Restoration goes open-source
https://gitlab.com/team-restoration/duke4-public

[4-28] Eternity Engine goes Multithreaded (beta)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135380

[4-25] Duke Nukem 3D mod Legacy Edition 2.0 release on May 19th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgYz34AvD0

[4-19] What Lies Beneath, 11-maps episode for MBF21 RC1 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135165

[4-15] Unreal mod "Steele Dawn" V2 has been released
https://www.unrealsp.org/index.php/articles/reviews/steele-dawn

[4-15] Coincident achieves first ever non-TAS single segment run of Okuplok (ITYTD)
https://youtu.be/4PP6iqrgIM8

[4-12] Re: Mobilize Quake mod announced
https://youtu.be/KZOgpGb6YM0

[4-11] Doomer Boards projects compiled (01-57) (With latest fixes to Shatter Realm)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n9j77ptkec5md

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HORSESHACKED

>>9904481
>hacx sword
>play quake wad
>lmao mode plutonia
>classic nu-doom
>action run feel
>need anon

is the OP supposed to be Doomguy and Doomguy (Japanese)?

>>9904481
>living fast-paced experience
damn right

>>9904493
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2lqjNQQbOE
Is this dumptruck_ds?

>>9904493
>Doomguy (Japanese)?
???

>>9904443
It's a smart way to combine the two types of shotguns. Give the player the option to make tradeoffs depending on the situation. Now if only the vanilla pistol could better compliment the chaingun depending on the situation as well. The pistol is just too slow and weak to be useful currently, besides as the starter gun you immediately ignore once you have anything else. What would it take to make it useful without eclipsing the chaingun since they share ammo?

>>9904481
>gay-bara-sex website

>>9904497
based

>>9904506
pic related, the protagonist of Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
English-speaking fans nicknamed him "Doomguy" because he's an armored soldier man fighting demons in an otherworldly hellscape with guns

>>9904507
There are several ways you can go about it, I think.
>Faster than the chaingun, but needs to reload.
>Slower than the usual pistol, but dealing higher damage than normal so it's more ammo-efficient compared to the chaingun at the cost of not being able to stun enemies as well.
>Same as above, but instead of higher base damage it has a wider variation in its RNG which can lead to much higher damage than a single bullet from the chaingun.
The latter ones don't work as well if you want to get autistic about bullets all doing the same amount of damage, but it can be handwaved by saying it's easier to aim a pistol than it is a chaingun and that headshots/critical hits are more likely.

>>9904507
The pistol is one I have a lot of fun experimenting with. One plan I currently have in the near future is to give the player a cracked out energy magnum, like I'm talking two shotting revenants strong. The kicker here is it'll be explosive and have self damage as a result, and you'll only get ammo back for it when you holster the gun, at which point it'll slowly recharge.

This'll mean you'll start out with a really strong weapon, but its use will be restricted at the start and you'll still want to find some new weapons in a hurry, after which it becomes a luxury cannon you pull out to delete something and go about your business.

>>9904481
>welcome ideas boom remember
>burned health
>idea looks yeah retarded

>>9904507
The shoe-in solution a lot of mods and mapset dehacked go for is to make it a sniper weapon but a pistol sniping hurts my tism
Rowdy Rudy gave you a rifle in the pistol slot for making precise shots without overshadowing the shotgun
I also like what guncaster did with making the revolver do just enough damage to kill any hitscanner in one shot, giving it a clear role where you don't want to waste your chaingunner problem solver on a damage spongy demon

Errrr GMOTA guy, I believe this is of interest to you.

>>9904548
Oh good. Now I can go out of my way to deliberately target people if they use that skin.

>>9904509
>>9904518
still can't believe the remake made him look 16

>>9904472
Doomguy and who?

Not sure if I enjoyed the movie as much as the game desu

>>9902281
So sick

>>9904574
what would bollywood doom look like
ssg musical number?

>ssg is overpowered
The most pedestrian take.

>>9904503
Similar voice but slightly higher pitched.

>>9904548
For the full effect you'd have to liberate the voice lines from the Yhollcube in Kegan's monster mod.

>>9904793
I'll see about making that a dub.

>>9902514
Solid results. Do one for normal Doom. Get him in some green spess murrine armour.

>>9904806
Or make some off the word cloud results
ahem:
>>9904481
>romero big

>>9904481
>existing combat surely gay-bara-sex
I mean the Baron pair in E1M8 is a dead giveaway.

I've been away for a few weeks. Any good quake maps in that time?

This map sucks ass. There's not one, but two parts that are literally RNG. One in the booby trap door room (pray the cyber shoots the archviles in the split second before he teleports) and one after the caco fight when you have to press the switch (pray that the four cybers above the switch just don't shoot and instant-kill you). Both of these parts go wrong 55% of the time.
When it comes to RNG, you shouldn't have it in your map in the first place. But if you are going to do it, keep in mind there's two types of RNG. One type is where a player can get unlucky and die through no fault of their own. The other type of RNG actually requires the player to get lucky in order to survive. These two sections in map 20 of Sunlust fall in the latter category. The first half of Italo Doom is even more fair than this map.

Is PS1 Doom worth playing?

Good texture sets for doom other than otex?

>>9905097
Cc4tex

>>9905037
It's very nice and comfy. Use PsyDoom

>>9905037
Only as a novelty, like most of the console ports.

>>9904575
Certified kino. Made me fiend for Half-Life all over again. Gonna check out Entropy Zero and other shit I've missed over the years.

>>9905165
Although I will say I think it was the missed opportunity of a lifetime not to have the HECU team up with Candidate 12 in the last battle. It's absolute hell on earth and they stop to shoot at the player? It makes sense in Half-Life because Gordon Freeman is purportedly the cause of the entire disaster, but not here. A guy with a gun? Shooting aliens? Give us a hand, you're honorary HECU for the night. Would have made it a 10/10.

>>9905037
Play DOOM CE if you do, its probably the best way to play the PSX levels.

>>9904443
That's not a perfect solution in practice, since you'll have to keep tapping fire if you want to do single shots instead of holding down the button.

>>9904507
I think the pistol is kind of meant to suck, it's shittiness is basically telling the player "go find a real gun NOW faggot" The chaingun itself is underpowered for it's position, though.

>>9904490
I always heard that as boysack. Made fighting them rather weird for younger me.

>>9904518
Is that game actually fun to play?

>>9905252
>That's not a perfect solution in practice
I can't think of many encounters where there's only a single imp or a single zombieman for that to be a problem.

>I think the pistol is kind of meant to suck
It is but that doesn't make it any less of a fucking stupid design choice. Making a weapon intentionally awful to make the other weapons better is pretty fucking inexcusable. It's one thing to make a weak weapon, but the pistol is awful all around.
Still not the worst starting weapon though, that award goes to Redneck Rampage's revolver, someone needs to be slapped for that thing.

>>9905304
>I can't think of many encounters where there's only a single imp or a single zombieman for that to be a problem.
Stuff like having to take out scattered turret/ledge imps and hitscanners, or moving fast while enemies are constantly filtering into your line of fire happens all the time. A large amount of use cases for the regular Shotgun will require mashing the fire button if single shots are controlled by pressing and releasing.

>Making a weapon intentionally awful to make the other weapons better is pretty fucking inexcusable.
It's a good design for starting a map with no equipment and having to leg it for a proper weapon, but it does make it a dead weapon slot for everything past that moment. Probably the ideal choice would be giving it a separate ammo type, making it more powerful but making the starting ammo and the amount from pickups really scarce so you only have so many shots until you have to pull out the fists if you don't find an another weapon. That way it would still be relevant later in the weapon progression after more ammo has been accumulated through a drip feed.

But then that solution wouldn't be viable in a strict mostly vanilla-compliant Doom framework.

>>9905345
Still not seeing an issue there, if you're trying to take out a group of distant nerds, you're gonna need more than one shot to kill them anyway so you might as well lay into them. Or at that point break out the chaingun. I've never had a fight where I've had to deal with a distant target and wanted to fire the shotgun only once at them.

>It's a good design for starting a map with no equipment and having to leg it for a proper weapon
I still don't think that's particularly good design, because a mapper pistol starting the player is either going to either have them make a mad dash for another weapon, give them a berserk pack, or be an asshole and force them to do an extended fight with the pistol. Like you said, the only way you're gonna fix it is if you break off from vanilla compat, but I'm fine with that because fuck the pistol and fuck the default melee without berserk.

>>9904473
How goes our current projects?

Have you played Marathon: Istoria yet?
>10 interconnected, intricate levels
>hub system, which means you can go back from the tenth level all the way to the first
>25 secrets to find, at least one of which has to be activated from several levels
>simple yet intriguing story
>you can explore the story even further by talking to the dead scientists
>experimental analog soundtrack, which also changes depending on whether there is combat
>every enemy has been overhauled and made more difficult. you can't circlestrafe now
>the new enemies run around and shoot like spastics
>7 new classes, each one with their own passive and active ability
>9 new spells to use, each one wrecking total CARNAGE on enemies
>you can level up yourself and your weapons
>a limited amount of ammo selectors and health cans spread over the levels, which means you can get any ammo (You) want and heal whenever (You) want
>a score table at the end of the game, summing up everything you have done
Go download Aleph One and play it, silly.

>>9905363
The waifu one seems to be going fine, 94 Protons is suffering from the existence of Chopblock being a cockblock.

>>9905037
I haven't played all of it, but I liked what I have played of it. I wish there more custom wads that had the atmosphere of the n64 maps and psx maps.

Anyone remember a weird as fuck couple of videos some schizophrenic dude made, where he had laid out all the different demon types in the game in tiered steps, and this was for him to try to illustrate his understanding of the universe?

Always a joy to just fire up some LTG

>>9905536
Credit where it's due, Cactus really does good shit, it's really fun and varied on top of all of the tiddies and ass.

>>9905353
>Still not seeing an issue there
Here's a crappy MSPaint scribble of a couple of common types of situlations where single fire is the way to go and you'll probably want to be firing as fast as you can. The enemies are stuff like shotgunners and imps that go down in one hit, but they're scattered around at different spots or keep coming into view one or two at a time while the player moves forward.

I really hate this shit being forced into Quake
https://twitter.com/AmelieCLanglois/status/1657635136022917121
And before someone says it is a shill post it isn't.

this shit isn't Q1 anymore, is newfags trying to turn Q1 into Amid Evil

>>9905581
>this shit isn't Q1 anymore, is newfags trying to turn Q1 into Amid Evil
It's what the new "retro" shit does to people, I've come across people convinced that Doom was essentially the same as Prodeus and needed to look like shit like that to be more modern.

>>9905589
the 40k game is even worse because the sprites looks like shit and choppy.
even doom and duke 3d were more fluid

>>9905594
There's only one 40k game worth waiting and I'm not even sure if we're getting it ever.

>>9905581
Looks neat, will play soon

>>9905581
I feel exactly the same with Doom when mappers put vomit neon textures and a room trap with 10k of revenants.

>>9905594
I think those are actually models that have been hit by filters to look like sprites, and yeah there's something really wrong with the flow of stuff in the gameplay footage.

>>9905252
>it’s shittiness is basically telling the player "go find a real gun NOW faggot"
Well, it works. Even in Knee Deep it’s getting replaced the first several seconds or couple of kills into a map, there’s usually either a shotgun or shotgunner nearby. I think Doom could’ve been fine with ditching it in 93, but I’d miss all the pistol replacements and subsequent chaingun replacements people have tried over the years.
>>9905037
It’s worth looking into if you like Hodge’s tunes and moods, things carried over wonderfully into Doom 64.
>>9905581
>And before someone says it is a shill post it isn't.
I think spending time to post and wallow about something you don’t like, rather than spending time and effort towards creations you’d like to see, is far worse.

>>9905581
The unironic use of textures solely meant to help block out a map (which are largely unnecessary to begin with using Trenchbroom, but whatever) in a final product is probably one of the dumbest trends in Quake nu-mapping. In 99% of them with regular textures haphazardly applied would look perfectly on par with id1 maps while also not coming across as offensively lazy. This one just looks like the author is up his own ass enough to think it unironically looks good.
The use of Copper is a perfect cherry on top of the shit pile as well.
Also that's a dude.

>The unironic use of textures solely meant to help block out a map in a final product is probably one of the dumbest trends in Quake nu-mapping.
There’s a Doom texture pack that got released recently as well:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135209-%F0%9F%9F%A7-hamtex-vanilla-compatible-dev-textures-for-doom-ii-%E2%AC%9C/

>>9905276
It is pretty fun, if you can handle the high difficulty combat and tricky maps.

>>9905171
Great HL mods:
_ Absolute Redemption
_ Afraid of Monsters: Director's Cut
_ The Challenger Deep 2
_ Cry of Fear
_ Edge of Darkness
_ Hazardous-Course 2
_ Heart of Evil
_ Poke646 and Poke646 Vendetta
_ Residual Life and Residual Point
_ They Hunger

>>9903668
Slipgate Sickness was also short & sweet unlike its replacement - the end part of this map was pure agony and I won't even pretend to feel ashamed of using cheats to just get it done

Also I see that the mini-boss guy wasn't the only thing that was borrowed from the X-men TC by the mod team

>>9905741
Yeah, the end of that map didn’t ruin 1.2 for me but it was my least favorite part of the mod. This and the end of Reliquary are the few times I’ve felt the need to quicksave midfight. I did it for Necrobestial Analbuttsex as well as Tear’s final fight, but only during the downtime while going through the waves.

>>9905581
Doesnt look like my thing. It doesnt send me into a depressive spiral when someone releases a project I dislike though. And I dont see what Amid Evil has to do with anything.

>>9904472
Nice.

>>9905640
>spoiler
Show me the Discord leaked dickpics

>>9905752
All they had to do is replace the 'lava' in that final section with regular slime to make it bearable, maybe also hide a trigger_hurt around waist-high deepness to make it still a very stupid idea to drop off those moving platforms - I believe that the ammo for other weapons is a trap as theres no reason to use anything else than the RL once you get it, except maybe the Thunderbolt/SNG once the flyers get too close to use explosives

>>9905024
After map 9 sunlust becomes more of an art statement than a set of video game levels. You didn't mention tediously clearing out that baron shelf, the annoying part that makes the RNG maps all the more infuriating
Ribbiks is at his best then the maps are no more than 10 minutes long, there's some damn good action in Crumpets on HMP

>>9905165
Yeah, Half Life : Echoes is really solid. I played through it to cap off my "Half Life 1 marathon" of sorts. Was very impressed with the presentation, the level design, the fights and overall everything felt like it "belonged" to Black Mesa.

I think my biggest complaint about the mod would be usage of the Half Life 2 Gman model because it doesn't really fit the style at all

All in all, definitely echoing (heh) the sentiment that all Half Life 1 fans should check it out.

>>9905304
>that award goes to Redneck Rampage's revolver
The revolver is not *that* bad and it's a valuable sniping tool because it doesn't share it's ammo with the rifle and it's decently accurate, meaning that while it's not an optimal choice, it doesn't lose it's usefulness.

>>9906032
It feels like Duke’s pistol with a nerfed rate of fire and mag size, all while not feeling like it was appropriately “buffed”. It’s not the worst, but is part of why I have so much unfun when playing RR compared to the other big three. To be fair, I think it came out before Blood and Shadow Warrior and it still has pretty levels. I might go through them all someday on the easiest setting.

>>9906085
Yeah, the gunplay in RR isn't the best part. The maps are amazing though and the sovl of the deep south is the best part about the game, I kind of wish there was a bit more to the "plot", maybe neutral characters, maybe like newspaper clippings you get to see between levels, etc.

But Redneck Rampage Rides Again is EXCELLENT for it's collection of deep south setpieces especially the motorcycle arena and Disgraceland

>>9906107
>Disgraceland
Prophetic

>playing ashes afterglow
>can't progress
>combed through westside and flooded district but they're labeled 02 and 04
>missed an entire map somehow
any ideas? no exit in the safe zone works and i can't find any other doors leading to levels
i got gasoline and the ammo primers

>>9906032
>>9906107
I still wish for a redneck map or mod with a midi rendition of rednex for late 90's kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOYZaiDZ7BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvkiZV0Ous

Ok
What if
Pistol slot weapon that's "separate ammo type, low rate of fire, much higher damage per shot than chaingun" magnum type
And then it has a second "super pistol" weapon for the slot that's a TEH KLOBB machine pistol with lower damage and horrible accuracy but higher dps that lets you magdump built up magnum pistol ammo

>>9906107
Just played a map where the button to open the door to the brothel was behind the building inside a vending machine.

Not sure if you can press it without breaking it or not. But I accidentally shot the vending machine and you can see the button under the "broken" sprite.

That's that *mwah* cryptic build bullshit I actually love.

>>9906210
I'll stick to vanilla but I'll try your mod when it releases.

>>9905581
You sound like a loser dude.

So I was looking through archives of old mods just to see if I find anything intersting and I find this attempt to turn Doom into a VN.

What the shit is this fuck?
https://archive.org/details/visual_novel/

>>9906386
Oh cool, it has Alice.

>>9905581
>I really hate this shit being forced into Quake
Yeah, they're gonna replace all out .paks so we can never play the original or any other levels again, but there's simply nothing we can do about it.

>>9905759
>It doesnt send me into a depressive spiral when someone releases a project I dislike though.
I'm working on a thesis that Anon is some sort of obnoxious and effeminate bitch.

>>9906415
>JUST GIVE UP, GOY!
No, where there's a will there's a way?

>>9906425
Are you actually mentally ill?

For the waifuwad, and future reference for other collaborative projects, is it custom that the project lead to order the maps and associated music tracks or should I name my map 05 with the appropriate midi in the music lump already?

>>9906403
>Alice
Who the fuck is Alice?

>>9906426
Where are you getting this bullshit claim from?

>>9906451
Meant to say name my map 05 for example* because I don't think the map order has come up.
Also for the OTEX file(s), should I include it in my wad already or will the lead manage that?

>>9905165
check out field intensity. it outdoes opfor in many ways imo

>>9906468
you download otex and set it as a resource for the wad in UDB along with doom2.wad
if you're releasing a wad with custom textures it's standard procedure to use SLADE to put the used textures in your wad and exclude everything not in the map to save bandwidth but that's the lead's job, just upload the map when it's done

>>9906457
>Who the fuck is Alice?

>>9906491
>if you're releasing a wad with custom textures it's standard procedure to use SLADE to put the used textures in your wad and exclude everything not in the map to save bandwidth but that's the lead's job, just upload the map when it's done
Right, I've done this for myself but was just wondering what's the least hassle for the one compiling it.
Also I guess I just include the midi file separately and the lead puts it into appropriate position since I don't know what map slot it'll be.

>>9906457
Alice XIV from Monster Girl Quest. Funnily enough, there exists another Doom mod out there based on MGQ, made by HDoomguy no less. Unfortunately it hasn't been worked on since 2017.

>>9906451
>is it custom that the project lead to order the maps
Yes. Music is usually kept with the map (except maybe in like one or two cases where the mapper chose a dogshit MIDI), but the map order should be determined once all submissions are in, so the WAD can try to have a proper flow and difficulty curve.
But that's just what I'm assuming based on recent precedents for successful /vr/ Doom projects.

>>9906510
>made by HDoomguy no less. Unfortunately it hasn't been worked on since 2017.
I'm not sure he even does modding anymore, last I saw he was doing sprites for Voidpoint instead.

>>9905773
"Had to do" more like "have to do", it can still be toned down through newer versions unless they're planning to keep this weird difficulty spike.
>>9906107
>I kind of wish there was a bit more to the "plot"
Huh? Like, after they made more appealing gameplay choices or in addition to them?

/vr/'s thoughts on Rise of the Triad?

>>9906539
On the whole a good game, the rocket launcher gimmick is pretty interesting and it has fucking amazing music.

Some of the later levels get pretty balls though, and the last boss is a complete dick.

>>9906485
I'll check it out now, thanks. Entropy Zero made me realize I'm in a more HL1 mood as good as it is. The gun changes are good to boot.
>>9906017
Based
>>9905728
I remember They Hunger and AOM and Cry of Fear but other stuff is unfamiliar. Thanks.

>>9906539
I have a hard time getting into it. I have more fun mp40ing nazis in Wolf3D and its chaingun is more satisfying to me than any of ROTT's explosives. I hope to get into it one day, especially when I can find fun and charm even in things like Zero Tolerance.

>>9906425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxFgZdhF9dQ

>>9905403
i'd love to but the single marathon modding site has been down for 2 weeks

>>9906346
>hating slipseer forceqd shit means being a loser.

>>9906458
I think that anon's reasoning is that one map getting released independently isn't going to somehow ruin Quake. And the response to that containing the retarded-ass text
>JUST GIVE UP, GOY!
correctly implies that the person who posted said text is mentally ill, because it's a schizophrenic response to an unmade statement.
Some random faggot map existing is not "forcing" anything into Quake, and it's not affecting anyone's ability to play Quake however the fuck they want, be it the right way (as vanilla as possible), or whatever wrong way with which some goons have fun. And the kikes have much more important things to subvert than fucking Quake, you mental-rent-eschewing rage-slave.

>>9906604
Seeking out things to dislike and then bitching about it is a loser move, yes. I go to quaddicted, see what's new. If I'm not interested, I close quaddicted and go play some video games or literally anything else. I don't browse twitter either. You on the left, me in the middle.

>>9906604
Dragging this baggage into /vr/ is pretty fucking lame.

>>9906615
>he says while bitching about a difference in opinion in a thread that he could easily ignore
Not him but you are portable oxygen tank levels of retarded. Do you recognize yourself in the mirror? Let's be honest, you got mad that he shit on something you like, so now you're calling him a loser for doing the exact same thing you're doing. If you don't like arguing, God only knows why you're here. Time to close the thread and go play some video games (or do literally anything else!)

>>9906625
I don't like dumbasses bringing offsite drama into the classic fps thread on /vr/. Simple as. But you're right I'll just filter Slipseer thanks to 4chanx. Hiding your post too.
>Let's be honest, you got mad that he shit on something you like
I have not played that map and I don't intend to. I still have to work on Quoffee Quake 1.

>>9906630
>Hiding your post too.
Good dog.

Meanwhile, in Japan...

>>9906528
He's still working on hdoom apparently, least he claims to be. I hope one day he finishes it, but to give hope I do believe he released a preview recently.
>>9906510
And unfortunately I think in this current climate it be only asking for trouble in this day and age, given it's Monster Girl Quest. So I don't think it'll ever be finished.

>>9906425
anon, literally unironically take your meds

>>9906641
3Dじゃないバカヤロォー!

>>9906561
Heh

>>9906641
I want to bust some 3D aliens

im so bored, and I am overwhelmed with choice when it comes to Doom wads and classic FPS. What should I play?

>>9906816
Treasure Tech with Super Mayhem 17

>>9905024
>One type is where a player can get unlucky and die through no fault of their own. The other type of RNG actually requires the player to get lucky in order to survive.
These are literally the same thing, silly goose.
I know what you meant to say:
>One type is where a player has a small chance of getting unlucky and dying through no fault of their own. The other type is where a player has over a 50 percent chance of getting unlucky and dying through no fault of their own.
That's not what you said, though. The two things you said are literally the same thing.
t.pedant

>>9906816
Quake.

>>9906816
HFFM

>>9906816
Hexen

Favorite Jewish video game character? For me, it's Doomslayer.

>>9906816
Adventures of Square

>>9906816
>>9906818
Yeah I'd say that if you haven't yet.

>>9906819
Yeah that's what I meant, thanks for clarifying for anyone else. After a long night of failed demo attempts my brain was pretty fried.
You CAN get unlucky vs. You HAVE to get lucky

>>9906696
Bustin' does make me feel good

>>9906539
OST fucks and the experimental level design in Extreme RotT is unlike anything else in the genre, for better or worse.

>demons?

>>9906641
Doomguy a gogo

>>9905276
I liked it a lot, it was the first SMT I played to completion after starting SMT1 and SMT3 before it. It can be difficult early on, but once you get rolling it gets easier (And then maddeningly difficult again at the very end).

It's a modern, easier Wizardry with a great story if you needed something /vr/ related to compare it to.

>>9907112
>with a great story
I'll second this. I've recommended it to people based on the intro alone. Peak horror. I never finished it, but I only stopped playing because I lost my physical copy after sinking like 30+ hours in.

>>9904678
Doom Eternal

>>9907143
It took me two attempts to get through it, but I did it unspoiled for the most part. If the game could be divided into two halves, the first half is more direct and grounded (Which can make it plod a bit, but not to an unbearable degree) and the second half goes off the rails which makes for a wild ride.

Compared to some of the games in the franchise (SMT3 specifically), I like that SJ slowly builds on itself so that were your mindset began at the start of the game is pretty far from where you arrive at the end of it. I can't really put it in better words without spoiling things, but it's pretty great.

HROT releases episode 3 tomorrow, has anybody here played it? Is it worth the price?

Question with waifu wad: is scripting allowed at all or no?

>>9907254
It being Boom format implies no. Unless you count voodoo scripting.

>>9907258
Ok. That's interesting:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Voodoo_script

I just downloaded DSDA Doom but I'm not sure how to use console commands. Like I want to warp to a map.

I know how to do it in GZdoom, but I can't find it in DSDA doom.

>>9907316
Why not just use idclev?

>>9907316
For a software rendering oldschool port with a console unironically use eternity engine

>>9907254
>>9907265
My submission uses a bunch of voodoo, most effort I've put into like a retarded 10 second cutscene of the bath's action. Basically just orchestrate a sequence of W1 triggers for the doll and test extensively that the timings match up to what you want to happen because remember that a sector cannot activate another line special if it's already busy with something else.

How do I stop using accessories to murder in every wad?

>>9907378
By playing better mods.

>>9907206
Yep. Totally worth it.

>>9907370
damn seeing this and >>9902243, i should probably spice my map up a bit...

>>9907463
I'm just going a stupid extra mile for my own amusements, it's not really part of the project's concept.
But for learning Boom tech, in addition to voodoo closets, take note of this: https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Dummy_sector

In my map those little bits at the left are joined to the main map and their adjacent little triangle sectors serve as reference points for the different "raise to lowest ceiling", etc. line specials.

Going Down MAP26: Insanity was somewhat of an influence, I wanted to do something similar that there are multiple height/flat changes applied to a single area. Not saying my shitpost map stands up to it in any way in awe factor or intricacy but same mechanisms are used.

>>9907483
>Going Down MAP26: Insanity
That was such a neat map for that, Xaser's Sector was pretty great too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OLWsAVz8M

>>9907489
Aahh, I had completely forgotten about that map but seems familiar now. Back when I saw it I probably didn't think much of the mechanics and just assumed it's magic.
But yeah that one's cool. Some painstaking work to create the map "in reverse", first create all the features and then dummysector it all and flatten the play area.

>>9907496
It's a hell of a lot of effort for something most people playing the map won't think about but it's still cool as fuck.

>>9907496
If you are willing to have holes in your floor, it's a bit easier, but yes.

Any other fun stuff or essentials /vr/ would recommend?

Duke3D and Quake mod recs also welcome.

>>9907636
Whitemare 1 and 2

>>9907638
Cool recommendation, I like the snowy theme.

Just got my hands on modded 360

Any way to play doom wads on it?

Thanks

>>9907672
there's no rest for the living dead made by an actual tranny, included in doom 3 bfg

>>9907636
For gameplay stuff both Combined_Arms mods, Space Hunter, GMOTA, DAKKA, Metroid Dreadnought, High Noon Drifter, Highway Acelleroid Booster, Heretical Doom, Psychic, Trailblazer, Wrath of Cronos

>>9907378
I remember I started tweaking it a bunch because I felt I could do better.

>>9907682

What's a good wad to play with Metroid Dreadnought?

>>9907378
Try other stuff, find mods that fit with mapsets instead of having a default for anything.

>>9907710
Daedalus: Alien Defense

>>9906168
I'm just guessing, is a hub possibly #3?

>>9907710
Darkmoon Alpha

>>9907682
I just tried High Noon Drifter with Fistful of Doom and it was a blast. Surprised how well they compliment each other considering the age gap between the mod and the map pack.

>>9907759
It's a shame there's not many maps with that kind of Western theme to it, I did once run it with Piratedoom which seemed to go ok.

>>9907682
I put forth Walpurgis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VdDN8kfzRI

>>9907765
Btw I love this mod and will shill it more later.

>>9907762
If you use your imagination a bit, some maps in Doom 2 in Spain Only are western reminiscent.

>>9907682
>metroid dreadnaught
>dogshit HUD and crappy sprites
>feels generally undercooked and is abandonware anyway

>metroid: demon hunter
>"updates" the previous mod by making it run like shit and has possibly the ugliest reticles I've ever seen in a mod
>does pretty much nothing else

I just want a good metroid mod.

>>9907765
It is a pretty great mod, and a lot more streamlined than Wrath of Cronos, which gets a bit clunky.

That said I do thing Wrath manages to do the sense of progress better, Baratus playthroughs end up feeling like you're some kind of batshit berserker cleaving through entire mobs in no time flat.

>>9907779
>I just want a good metroid mod.
Make your own,

>>9907759
>>9907762
Suggesting Magnificent Five.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/118418

>>9907765
I wish Walpurgis had a Necromancer.

idk how i didnt notice this before but doom builder makes my gpu act up, every time i alt tab into it or zoom in/out on the editor, my screen starts flickering for a second or two.

>>9907779
>and is abandonware anyway
Can we just bask in that thought that noncommercial mods can be considered abandonware?

>>9907713
There's an appeal in that, mixing and matching stuff, though I do find my favorites over time.

>>9907819
>though I do find my favorites over time.
I try to avoid making a habit of sticking to something, I don't want to end up like the types who whenever they've found a new gameplay mod, they whip out Scythe 2 because that's what they've always done.

>>9907825
Shit, I do this with EDay and Strange Aeons. I'm trying not to, though. Even though I've already made a Brutal Doom Monsters patch for this.

>>9905113
>play with software renderer and low resolution for the authentic experience
>play with vulkan and high resolution to fully admire all the pretty lights and colors
Choices hard.

>>9907808
Looks like a nice map set, interestingly it still uses some old school assets from Fistful of Doom.

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>>9907907
Bro, we're not making Doomguy in Artificial Academy.

>>9907913
You can always make others in it

>>9907907
This is the wrong thread buddy. Wrong board, hell it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.

>>9906531
>after they made more appealing gameplay choices or in addition to them?

Redneck Rampage has really good building parts, but I kind of wish it had more like "thematic episodes" and each focusing on some kind of a deep south plotline like aliens, cryptids, native american folklore, "wild west" style setting maybe playing around with the idea of KKK and some Branch Davidian style stuff (like in the Waco level even if it was ever so brief) . Maybe some non-hostile NPCs similar to strippers or like some damsels in distress etc that you can save for points.

Story / lore / flavorful gags could be done in intermission screens etc . I suppose it's something that could be done in a mod or something, the basic building blocks are there...

God, I need to get into DOOM mapping and then expand that skill to mapster 32..

>>9907926
She hasn't even upgraded her outfit yet, the fuck is she playing at?

>>9907928
I think it's a bot. It's been going to other boards spamming that in other threads and generals.

>>9907762
If you read the lore rabbit hole by opening it in SLADE High Noon Drifter is technically canon with any doom wad because it takes place the same time as Doom. The shotgun was mass produced by a corporation in the 21st century due to a legal loophole on "antique" weapons

>>9908021
All of Terms OC mods are well worth opening with slade and having a poke around for all the lore he leaves in there.

>>9908021
>>9908036
High Noon Drifter's was my favorite to go through because Term wrote shit from both a neutral perspective and from Corzo's. Aside from Corzo's own entry, anyway.

>R&C THUNDERHAWK: Ever since their popularity in the old west, revolvers have been a powerful class of handgun. Even as the technology for semiautomatic pistols improved, and perhaps perfected, revolvers have always managed to be smaller, lighter, and more reliable. With a simpler build, revolvers are also immune to many of the malfunctions that plague semiautomatic pistols and handguns. This has rendered them a magnificent choice for home and personal protection, where many of the obvious downsides (such as low ammo capacity and difficult reloading) are simply a moot issue.
>The exact maker of this revolver is unknown. The weapon bears no identifying hallmarks or similarities to other models on the market. The gun itself seems to be an engineering impossibility, an eight-shot .500 magnum that weighs barely two pounds, with the pin-point accuracy of a rifle and durability to survive the harshest environments without breaking. All that can be gleaned is that on either sides of the frame behind the cylinder, there are small etchings with the claw of a dog and the talon of a bird...

>>9908061
>CORZO'S NOTES: Ahh, my trusted friend. Picked up this thing in 2012, took it off a guy who thought he'd be a better gunslinger than me if he sold his soul. Poor fool. Gun was nice and leagues better'n mine, though, so I kept it.

>I still don't understand how this thing exists. But it's accurate, fires real fast, light as nothin', and can punch an apple-sized hole out of any man or woman. Eight shots, too. And if I lose it, it somehow gets right back to me. Damn. I've got a couple hunches of who that man bargained with to get this beauty, and if so, he sure got the sour end of the deal. But it's nearly perfect in every way.

>I'm told double-action is better nowadays, but I've been around so long that single-action is pretty much second nature to me now. Cocking the hammer ain't any trouble, and if I wanna go fast I can hammer to make it go even faster. And I've been holdin' it so long I can whip up ammo for it out of nowhere, so I ain't ever runnin' dry.
>Plus, there's just a nice comfy nostalgia to the whole thing, y'know? Reminds me of way back home, back in the day.

>>9908070
Best thing about Corzo is I remember Term once saying he was partly inspired by this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s

What would make the list if they made an updated Top 30 this year?

I'd place my bets on Brutal Doom, Moon Man Doom, and maybe Grezzo 2.

>>9908093
The Doomworld mods wouldn't have the balls to mention Moon Man.

>>9908096
neither grezzo

>>9908093
Lilith.pk3 probably would just for nearly killing GZDoom.

I wasn't happy with my previous idea where what was supposed to be a fodder monster had damage comparable to a rocket which sharply declined into irrelevance, this is better.

did anyone else here find hellbound frustratingly confusing, or am i just retarded? every single time i ran it, i never bothered to get past the power station without sequence breaking. don`t think i ever beaten the whole thing either.

>>9908134
I don't remember it being terribly intuitive.

https://twitter.com/DrPyspy/status/1653835203171983360
I thought this was coming out in Doom 4's bday

>>9908156
Metadoom wad?

>>9908093
Hffm for sure

>>9908163
Probably a follow up to https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135181-baphomets-entryway-a-map-designed-for-metadoom/

>>9908132
What sourceport are you using?

>>9908184
DSDA-Doom.

>>9908190
How are you recording gameplay? I've tried OBS and xbox game bar (for pc) but DSDA-Doom refuses to show up in recordings even though I can see it fine while playing.

>>9908193
Different anon, but these are my settings.

>>9908193
I use OBS studio but it's also windowed. I think I had problems with fullscreen in the past.

>>9908115
And potentially causing seizures.

>>9908096
Moonman more like Midman

>>9908220
To be fair it did have a warning that Graf wanted taking out as it was part of the ZDoom only protection stuff.

>>9908093
H-Doom obviously.

>>9906531
I'd say even puting a Biosuit right before the final arena's sinking platform as a warmup would be fine enough if gimping the "forbidden grape juice" is out of the question
>here's another level that I like contrary to common opinion - just like the previous 17cm Fromitz circuitboard hunting fest

>>9908193
Did you use window capture or monitor capture? That might play into it.

>>9908194
What's the wad?

>>9908306
Plutonia

>>9908290
People dislike this level? I thought it was pretty good. I loiked exploring the level and jumping around like mad trying and failing to find all the boards to access the secret door.

I'm asking for some wad (gameplay packs and level packs) recommends here.
My turn ons :
Sexy ladies / pin up / cheesecake
Techbases / cool military camps
1980s action movie style (Predator, Commando)
Meaty and powerful guns
KDITD
"Plutonia-like" wads, that can have nasty ambushes and such, but the amount of monsters and the playtime of the level keeps to a reasonable amount.
Levels that feels purposeful in-univrse and "lived in" (honor mention to the clogged shitter in one of the /vr/ wads)

Wads I've played and liked : 512 LineDefs, 2048 Units of /vr/, BTSX

Turn offs :
Slaughtermaps
Too "clean cut", symmetric arena-like levels

>>9908340
Try Chainworm Kommando, at least the early levels of it anyway.

>>9908340
>meaty powerful guns
>action movie style
Trailblazer

>>9908194
>>9908195
>>9908306
Thanks guys, turns out playing in windowed mode did the trick. Needed to record some vanilla gameplay

>>9908348
>Trailblazer
Looked at the trailer for 5 seconds, downloaded!
I've seen someone post screenshots / webms of it and it looked pretty damn good!

>>9908346
I'll look into it, thanks!

>>9908340
Additionally ; Megawads are okay but honestly smaller wads, 8-15 maps are more my speed. Won't be turned off by a lot of levels but smaller wads are a good recommend as well.

https://blake.toys/entry/icarus-hd-from-quake-2
3d print of Q2 icarus model in HD

>>9908290
But then again I am a sucker for these type of maps once triple-jump makes almost everything bearable

>>9907979
That’s all neat, but I think you’ve yet to address the greentext you quoted regarding gameplay change concerns.
>>9908290
>Alk’s nonlinear “collectathon” levels
I can see the concept getting tired quickly if it was every map, but it was fine and fun with just these two.

Wait a minute...
what am I gonna get myself into here oh boy

>>9908334
The "go find X ammount of Y to find a secret that's about a quarter of the whole map" type of level is inevitably gonne end up as a love/hate sort of affair for many folks depending on what they preffer

>>9908469
Oh yeah, obviously it'd be nice if the gameplay was improved as well. But the basic skeleton of the gameplay is pretty good aside from the key hunting and the weapons being kinda crap.

>>9904472
Retard here. I downloaded GZdoom and have all the doom wads.

How do I load myhouse.wad?

>>9908482
It's a pretty neat wad.

>>9908516
Learn you some Doom modding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA

>>9908516
With so many sourceports available for Doom all serving specific roles and niches, and mod support scattered among each of them, it would be wise to look into using a launcher to keep them all organized and make it easy for getting your WADs ready, so you aren't having to drag and drop EVERYTHING.
>ZDL
A tried-and-true old launcher, hasn't been updated in years but still works well with any modern source port, and it's very simple and straightforward to set up and use, though it is still missing some quality of life features from more modern launchers like being able to save specific configs for specific mods and so-on. You'll have to select them manually each time.
>DoomRunner
A very nice modern evolution of ZDL featuring most all the bells and whistles you'd hope for to make setting up mods and map packs a straightforward process, you can even save specific configs for easy access.
>Super Shotgun Launcher/SSGL
Not quite as flexible, lightweight, or straightforward as ZDL or DoomRunner, but it does have a nice, flashy UI and semi-automated WAD organization for those who might be interested, and it gets the job done with a bit of effort.
>Doom Launcher
A nice, handy QT ui-based launcher that gives you direct access to downloading from Doomworld's archives, though it has some flaws, such as having to manual add each wad you have to its library, and its insistence on copying each wad you add to its own folder instead of just reading from where you already had it installed. A nice tool for collecting and experimenting with Doomworld's vast library of quirky wads from yesteryear and today, but not ideal for organizing or maintaining a large, existing collection of wads- especially those not available on Doomworld specifically. Certainly worth trying-out if you're just getting into Doom modding for the first time.

>>9908562
>Doom Launcher
If I recall, there's a way to make it work more like a normal launcher instead of wasting space.

>>9908562
>>9908569
I'm still impressed how people can launch Doom wads via ZDL or even damn .bat files, but are having problems with whooping 4 tabs of DoomLauncher settings.

>>9908562
>A tried-and-true old launcher, hasn't been updated in years but still works well with any modern source port,
There's actually an updated version of ZDL but it's just backend rewrite stuff and functions the same as the older ones.

>>9908340
You haven't played any DoomerBoard Projects? Most of them use a set of urban textures full of furniture and signs and graffiti, and I've personally stolen the way they do midtexture tables

>>9908501
>>9908465
I knew this might happen . .

>>9908519
yep that was something alright

>>9908594
What weapon mod is that?

>>9908482
Is there anything worse than dementia?

>>9908707
Schizophrenia

>>9908707
Not really, shit's a nasty way to go out, both from whatever made them a person just coming apart at the seams and from their brain just forgetting how to do stuff like breath.

>>9908501
They can seem daunting at first glance, but that concern starts to disappear once you collect a couple. Having them be some of the few that unlock double+ jumps was also real smart.
I could also be biased towards jumpboots, Violent Rumble’s Rusty Bucket went from “meh no thanks” to “cute and worth my time” when I grabbed those boots near the start.

>>9908673
metal slug marco from bring your own class code is so complicated it only works in zandro

>>9908482
Is there anything worse than dementia?

>>9908737
>bring your own class
Where would you even get it anymore now that /vr/ doesn't have Sunday Shitshow?

>>9908854
I was about to say the Pizza Tower discord, as I'm pretty sure the mod was being worked on there, but I forgot that also got nuked. Maybe check moddb?

>>9908861
Wasn't there another official Pizza Tower server that appeared right after the old one disappeared?

>>9908854
https://www.mediafire.com/file/uitkk8dp3e59jkw/byocv0.9.2.7.pk3/file

IDK if it's the newest one but fuck it, I hate Discords ending up as the only place to find specific mods.

>>9908886
It's pretty old. I have 0.9.7.6.1 version. Maybe GMOTA guy has the actual latest version?

>>9908845
Heh. Nicely done.

>>9908736
I spent an embarrasing ammount of time to find the last secret in this map - turns out the Red Armour didn't trigger a secret count increment upon getting collected and only made it count after I accidentally noclip thru the place it was hidden at - but in the meantime I also found this easter egg fully leigit instead

>>9908894
https://allfearthesentinel.com/zandronum/download.php?file=byocv0.9.7.7.2.pk3

>>9908636
Only now I am allowed to get out of here

>>9908894
I do not. I can't even play multiplayer with those boys anymore. I don't know what it is but I get massive desynchs when I try to play with them. Which is frustrating because my internet is faster than ever before.

>>9908920
>>9908913
Okay *now* I am done for certain

>>9908021
>>9908036
>>9908061
This shit is why I started putting lore/flavor text in my mods too. It's fun. I tried to replicate how the manual was written for the Doom manuals for Doomslayer's weapons in GMOTA.

>>9908935
Sounds neat, also at least it's not
>TO DEFEAT THE CYBERMANCER, STAB AT IT'S ANKLES UNTIL IT DIES

>>9908950
Yeah. I wrote out stuff for Blaz's current sword. That thing has a history and I'd like to cover it in the future.
Honestly I'd still like to make a digital manual for GMOTA that people can thumb through.

>>9908865
>>9908861
>>9908954
Is there something with that game and Doomduders?

>>9906386
https://youtu.be/ZeesCLdczPU

>>9908976
I like to think pretty much everything Arti gets involved with is canon for him. The guy's a cryptid. If that's what you're asking, or maybe I'm stupid and misinterpreted what you wrote.
Also Arti gets involved with everything else I make at some point. I plan on sneaking him into GMOTA soon.

Anyone else enjoy playing WADs on period-accurate hardware?

>>9909005
I'd rather just play it on whatever I have like a real human bean, at best I would use my CRT monitor.
Set fps cap to 10 if you want authentic experience so much.

>>9909005
>low radiation

>>9906641
これでdwangoを遊んだ覚えのある人いますか?

>>9909017
It was the only working CRT monitor I could find at the thrift store.

>>9909005
and it said
YOU ARE INVITED
BY ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING

>>9909005
does that 5.25" driver still even work

>>9909029
SOMEDAY. I’M TELLING YOU
THEY’LL MAKE A MEMORY MACHINE
TO WASH AWAAAY THE GRIIEEF

>>9909017
How can you tell if a CRT has low radiation?

>>9908985
Did Arti make Roland's arm?

>>9909094
Son of a bitch, someone cared enough to remember and ask that.
and yes. Everything goes south for Hector, gets his arm blown off, and the rest of his gear gets fucked up. Arti finds what's left of him and puts him back together.

>>9907810
I noticed that if I leave it running in the background it'll make my computer start to sweat and eventually the program will freeze. I'm on an older machine though.

>>9908985
Thanks for making it canon that the *mouthpiece* of the *helmet* is capable of smiling, really appreciate it.

>>9909195
I think that all depends on who's drawing him and the context of the setting. Same reason why sometimes his helmet is like jello or why other times it's a proper glass/polymer thing.

>>9908854
Some zandro servers still have that

Hey I can't seem to find a tutorial on this: Does anyone know how to make certain color values be color-able for sprites?

>>9909282
Green, by default. And if I had to guess you would change the green range in the palette/color map to a different color.
Unless you're asking for some scripting means.

>>9909054
No extra limbs or super strength.

>>9909036
Yeah, it's kind of a pain in the ass though only seems to load things through DOS, but maybe Win9x drivers of some kind exist for it.

>>9909005
>period-accurate hardware?
>optical MS Mouse
No balls

>>9909371
Heheheheh

>>9909371
>>9909378
It's period-accurate enough. Most of the build only dates to the early 2000's besides the case and keyboard.

Plus I still bring out this bad boy from time to time. 1v1 me in Quake if you still think I got no balls

>>9909391
a little soap and water and maybe some magic sponge will take off that goodwill grease pencil

>>9908258
What a succubus.

Quad-barreled shotguns are gay.

>>9909502
you're right, we need MORE barrels.

>>9909502
>>9909515
hexa-barreled shotguns are lesbian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4052gfGSZg

>>9908258
Rather than make infamy lists, H-Doom is going to get Mordeth award.

>>9909587
This, last I saw he wanted to be able to have male demons as well, which would at least double the sprite count if not more.

https://lochnits.com/s7/
all 3 marathonfags, fear not

>>9908923
Aww man, what a bummer. Why does getting latest BYOC has to be so complicated?

>>9909678
They plan on putting it on itch.io in the future. From my understanding they're still polishing up the latest additions.
I pray they don't get stuck in constant polishing hell though.

>>9909603
Thanks marathonfag nr 1

t. nr 2

Does Hammer of Thyrion not have model lerping for Hexen II? I like FTE but FTE doesn't let you gib corpses over HOT

>>9906597
There are marathon files scattered all over. In this case, you can get it from https://lochnits.com/marathon/istoria/

>>9909821
this is pretty cool. i see it's using a bunch of AOPID features.

>>9908469
>>9908736
I think the way this map (and that other one with triple-jump boots) do it was better than the way AD_tears done it by making it an optional to hunt for the secret switch to the 1/4 of the entire map - as I presumed this map will play-out as @>>9908501 only to get suprized in a pleasant manner

>>9904473
woof 11.1 is a minor release with bugfixes and mac/midi support improvements
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_11.1.0

>>9908707
Seconding >>9908728. It's really nasty.

>>9907672
There's a version of Retroarch for the 360 out there that should have the Prboom core. Other than that I haven't seen any homebrew Doom ports for the 360 except maybe running OG Xbox' version of Doom Legacy or Odamex through backwards compatibility.

>>9909974
Fuck yeah

>>9909974
What is it about Woof/Nugget that sets it apart from other source ports? I've heard people swear by it now but haven't really had the chance to try it myself.

>>9910174
They're like Crispy Boom. Nugget adds a lot more visual flair, but both of them very much just resemble the original game as closely as possible while supporting some more modern stuff like UMAPINFO and MBF21. I started using Nugget just because DSDA kept changing bullshit that never needed to be changed.

>>9910187
>mfw 100,000 Revenants is actually feasible to complete on an i7 with Woof

What a remarkably well-optimized port.

>>9910203
My 5600X is crying.

>>9910209
I certainly didn't say it ran well, but just the fact that I can actually complete it without the game getting stuck as soon as I engage the horde is really saying something. I don't think any other port can do that currently.

>>9910174
I use Nugget Doom, I highly recommend it. Take a look at the features https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom
Some highlights are:
>Disable screen wipe
>Change/disable view and weapon bobbing
>Disable berserker tint
>Disable invulnerability colormap
>Change FoV
>Change player view height
>One-Key Quick Save/Load
>"Alternative Arms Display" that shows Chainsaw/SSG instead of pistol
>Crosshairs with option to change colour on enemies but not on spectres
>No need to restart the program to change MIDI player
but a lot of source ports already do these, in fact some of them are just from Woof

However here's why I REALLY use Nugget Doom:
>Entirely customisable hud
You can make any hud you want, it's pretty easy. Here are some examples
https://imgur.com/a/lr0ZLox
>Cheats
Pic rel
>Extra Gibbing
Makes berserk, chainsaw, and SSG gib.
>Bloodier Gibbing
Enough said

>>9910187
>because DSDA kept changing bullshit that never needed to be changed.
what do you have in mind when you say this?

>>9910265
>what do you have in mind when you say this?
Most recently they got rid of the old Boom HUDs in favor of their new shitty design.

>>9910261
>Nugget Doom 1.13.0, released on April 3rd, 2023.
>New Features
>Separated View Bobbing from Weapon Bobbing; each now has its own value
FDWL dev on suicide watch.

lmao
https://youtu.be/ypP-qVAW-oY

>>9910174
Endoom screens, better gamepad support, nifty little aesthetic things like blood color fixes and screen recoil. It's essentially Crispy Boom.

>>9909391
Ball mice were the worst, I hated when the ball would dissolve and you had to boil a new one.

>>9910261
Does Nugget still use a software renderer? I've never seen a port allow the player to change the FOV while retaining the software renderer.

>>9910326
Yes. Apparently it's inspired by Retro Doom, which I think also uses software rendering

>>9910329
Either way, that's great. Nugget keeps adding on new stuff to keep it as my favorite source port. The berserk indicator on the statusbar is great too. Literally all it needs now is to recognize the number pad when using idclev.

>>9910261
>Change FoV

That's all I needed to hear. It doesn't appear to be quite as optimized as Woof is for 100k Angry Boners but I can't imagine that's gonna matter in 99.8% of cases.

>>9910339
The FOV setting is a little buggy. It changes the brightness of walls as if you were physically closer or further away.

>>9910352
Eh, small price to pay. I'll just use Woof for cases where it becomes distracting.

>>9910357
You could also just revert the fov back to default.

>>9908482
Is there anything worse than dementia?

>>9910373
Anon, are you okay?

>>9908482
Is there anything worse than dementia?

>>9904473
I'm gonna release this map early just because it might be beatable but it's far from finished, so i need tips on how i can make it less shit.
I'm also struggling a bit on it but at least i'm coming to conclusions in regards to scale and understanding texture alignment.
There's no custom skybox because i assume the mapset itself will have one.
For some reason, i had to load both the map itself and the wad file of the textures to get them to show up.
If you don't have the OTEX 1.1 wad file, i added to the download so you can load both the files and get the textures.
https://gofile.io/d/vHcho5
>MIDI:
Stuart Rynn's Day of Mourning
>Map name
Eto (Even though the automap still says "Entryway" but i haven't gotten around to change it).
>Character
King Cai from Gravity Rush 2
>Level description
The main objective is getting the red and blue key to open a door that'll lead to the final area.
Note that this map still sucks but i'll try to make it less shit.

>>9910174
>woof
Proper scaling instead of horribly uneven pixels.

>>9910436
>King Cai from Gravity Rush 2
lol are you the anon who said no one could guess who your husbando was

I've said this before, but Plutonia's biggest sin is that none of the damaging floors are consistent. How did a project made by 2 brothers, who were constantly playing each other's maps, have such inconsistency?

>go on a voyage of finding old, obscure wads
>instead keep finding Youtube channels dedicated to knocking out 3-5 videos a day of increasingly more tower of duct tape forks/addons of Complex Doom
Who the fuck even watches that shit?

>>9910502
I wonder if it's possible to know which brother made which map by their damage floor settings.

>>9910534
Dario made both 17 and 22, with the former having damaging green floors.

>>9910261
>https://imgur.com/a/lr0ZLox
How do you make your HUD look like this? Is there any documentation?

>>9910596
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/blob/master/docs/nughud.lmp
You would just drop this lump into a wad, or maybe you'd even be able to load it directly. I've never messed with this stuff before, I'm a different anon.

>>9910596
>>9910608
And obviously make edits to it where applicable.

>>9910619
Thanks, muh shubber-nugger

>>9910596
>>9910608
also theres documentation here, explaining how you can put in custom sprites and stuff.
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/blob/master/docs/nughud.md
you dont need to drop it into a wad, you can just put the lump in the autoload folder
>By including a file explicitly named nughud.lmp (case-insensitive) in the corresponding autoload folder
(or just put the lump/wad into the "doom-all" autoload folder)

>>9910681
Do you have the graphics on-hand for the BTSX split HUD?

Hey, one of the Abysm 2 expansions takes place in a japland

>>9910174
It's not PrBoom based and thus simply based.

>>9910758
And the problem with PrBoom is?

>>9910758
PrBoom-cringed you mean, maybe?

>>9910753
It has a fucking amazing secret level with some incredible music too.

>>9910818
For me, it's March of the Demons, NRFTL's secret level. Fucking amazing.

hey fellas now that i'm made aware of the zdoom pedophilia whatever, whats the new good doom discord

>>9910847
Vast majority of them are fairly inactive.

>>9910851
ok how about the least inactive one

>>9910851
This, the only decent ones kicking around now are at best considered community-adjacent ones and not directly Doom-related ones.

>>9910261
but gldoom allows that "freelook" without being freelook.... so...

>>9910818
Is the secret level noticeable enough to stumble upon or do I have to look for it pretty hard?

>>9910760
It's shit

>>9910480
Are you talking about a particular thread or post from years ago?
I post a lot of stupid shit but some can overlap with anyone else's stupid shit.

>>9910534
Playing it now, Map 23 even has some blood floors that hurt while others don't.

>>9910874
As secrets go it's a fairly obvious one you just come across while exploring.

>>9910851
>>9910864
brought to me by the non-answer gang. prolly best i stay outta your aspergers clubs anyways, eh fellas? the doom community is only made up of closeted & un-closeted pedophiles anyways

>>9910875
It was a good port for it's time, and so does PrBoom+ and DSDA (outside of few kraflab's retarded decisions)

>>9910892
You're behaving like a child so you probably have every reason to be cautious of the community.

>>9910903
PrBoom+ has shit mouse movement and DSDA is the answer to a question nobody has ever asked.
And the rewind function is legit cheating.

>>9910937
>And the rewind function is legit cheating.
It's for learning speedrun routes more than it is normal play.

>>9910892
Whatever you say, anon. Just play the game and its mods.

>>9910892
You have to be 18+ to browse this site.

>>9910876
guess it wasnt you then

>>9910436
I liked it, anon. I think you did a good job. Next thread I'll make another anchor post and list yours as complete if you like, otherwise I thought it was fun but would be cool if you spawned a rocket somewhere. Unless I missed it.

How do I make a fgd file? Keep in mind I have 0 QC knowledge and the mods I want a fgd for (travail and operation urth majik) don't even have unpacked progs.dat available. If it's too much trouble to explain then please link some tutorials that would get to the point relatively quickly.
Or is there a way to use trenchbroom without a fgd?

Please help me find an old Doom 2 meme video. It explains how to beat bone daddies to the punch and how to outmanoeuvre enemies. It contains horrible spelling and I remember it having this fist of the north star song in it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a55eAGBq010

I'm absolutely certain this has to sound familiar to someone within the community. The video used to get shared a lot in doom threads in the past.

>>9911007
I think i added the RL next to the Arachnotron in the red area, but i also forgot to add some pickups in the final area.
This map will still be updated if i don't procrastinate that much.

>>9911032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>>9911042
That's the one. I thank you wholeheartedly.

I love getting my ass saved by instigating (un)friendly fire incidents

>>9910697
that screenshot was posted on doomworld by someone that never bothered to share the wad

>>9910874
I found one behind a boss near the main hub. Not sure if it's the exact same one or a different secret level.

>>9911148
I hate when people do that.

>>9910608
>split status bar graphic ala NightFright's hud mod for GZDoom
I will now download your sourceport.
Seriously, I've been waiting for demo-compatible Doom port to introduce that feature since forever. I don't like the original status bar sitting in the middle, but at the same time I don't want to miss out on new graphics many custom wads introduce. They complement the wad's atmosphere.

>>9911153
If the level is very ROTT then that would be it.

Music is by Lee Jackson and a massive reference to his stuff from back then.

>>9910760
NTA but input lag and horrible scaling.

>>9911154
And that's precisely why they do it.

>>9911176
It's not exactly what you think it is. It doesn't have the boxes automatically, it's just the statusbar elements without the background. Pic related is what it looks like normally.

>>9911176
>>9911224
And this is just me showing off a layout I threw together after about an hour of tinkering.

Every retro shooter would be improved by adding a Blood dynamite-like throwable weapon, if it didn't already have one.
Prove me wrong.

>>9911148
People get really possessive over their hud edits for some reason.

>>9911292
I wonder why they added the two other dynamite types when the fuse one is so perfect already. Also the spray can alt fire is also just another fuse dynamite for some reason.

>>9911292
I respect that, but honestly the Serious Sam 2 offhand grenade is criminally underrated.

>>9911308
For different approaches to encounters.

>>9911224
So the split statusbar shown at https://imgur.com/a/lr0ZLox (the vanilla & D4V ones) is not sourceport's doing but rather a handmade graphics lump? Bummer.
It's not that hard to make such graphic though. Just a small additional step before wad playthrough.

>>9911224
nta but yeah that doomworlder seems to have created custom textures and placed them on the hud using "nughud_patch". but as you say it seems simple enough.

>>9911371
The ss2 grenade is pretty good, although you got way too much ammo for it which made a lot of fights even more mindless.
I liked in 4 how the pump shotgun got an underbarrel grenade launcher which worked surprisingly well and made the gun more relevant for longer. A shotgun with a grenade alt fire is like a match made in heaven.

>>9910681
>>9911176
>>9911224
>>9911385
yeah nugget's hud customization feature is simple but still capable
currently I'm working on >picrel

for me, it's woof's crispy hud in widescreen mode

>>9911521
Looks good. You can add custom icons for the weapons you've picked up?

>>9911308
Spray can alt fire has a larger radius i think and also sets things on fire

Perfection.

>>9910517
Enraged Eggplant and Spectere seem to play a decent variety of wads, and release at a decent pace. Might find some old shit in there you haven't heard of. Also DoomSpeedDemos has a twitch channel that plays random demos 24/7.

>>9911550
>4:3