/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9892202
>playing any console remaster ever

>>9892207
My bad. I wasted 70 bucks on this abortion. I'm so mad now.
Fuck those faggots modern game "designers" who studied for 30 years how to make games and can't even remaster properly a few fucking top down 2D RPGs self taught undergraduates made 30 years ago.

>>9892207
What do you think of the psx one?
Only one I ever played but didn't get really far in it.

>>9892202
why the fuck did they go with the awful GBA palette for ff6? i'll never understand why they consciously made that decision

>>9892237
Not him, but load times on that one are horrendous.

>>9892207
fpbp

>>9892237
This anon is right: >>9892246

The load times are horrible. That was the first version of FF6 I played. I still enjoyed it but eventually dropped it due to the load times. Original snes version was the best IMO.

Do there exist any good remasters at all? Every single one that I've played made me go "yeah but this doesn't have a feature from the original" or "the atmosphere is different and fucked from the original".

>>9892263
Super Mario All-Stars' SMB3 rendition

>>9892263
PSP FF4 is great.

>>9892240
Pure unbridled laziness and lack of caring. They went with that palette because it's what the iOS "remaster" before it used, and the iOS "remaster" in turn used it because it's what the last release before it (the GBA port) used. It's like that image about the origin of memes which shows 4chan shitting into Reddit's mouth, who then shits into 9gag's mouth, who then shits into Facebook's or whatever. Just shit masters copying the retards before them and putting their own little uninspired spin on it.

>>9892263
FFXII

>>9892263
The only good 'remasters' are just ports. Pixel Remaster is not even a remaster, it's a remake

>>9892357
>Pixel Remaster is not even a remaster, it's a remake
retard, a remake implies changing the game drastically and adding extra content, like Resident Evil.

>>9892385
Wrong

>>9892385
That's not what a remake is

>>9892385
It is technically a remake because the entire game was remade from the ground up using Unity IIRC.

>>9892385
A remaster is a fluffed up version of the original code. A remake is when you rewrite the code from scratch.

>>9892403
>Citation needed

>>9892403
>A remaster is a fluffed up version of the original code. A remake is when you rewrite the code from scratch.

What kind of retarded logic is this? Are you saying a game like mega man X on SNES ported to PC is a remaster? Do you think changing the code from 5A22 assembly to x86 is 'fluffed up'? What about ports across consoles with different architectures?

lol

>>9892263
MGS2 and 3 HD and thats pretty much it
Theres also Peace Walker HD and Xenoblade Chronicles but those probably dont belong on this board, honestly I don't feel mgs3 and 2 do either but there you go

>>9892407
A port is a port, silly goose.

>>9892279
>Playing a version with inferior sprites
LMFAO

>>9892421
>MGS2 and 3 HD
serviceable at best

>>9892439
I love the sprites in the psp version, so yeah. The bonus dungeon is also fun.

>>9892263

>>9892263
All the SaGa remasters

>>9892279
>memeing FFIV "Complete Collection" for anything other than accessible TAY and InterLOL
Dude the graphics have tons of amateur-hour intern issues, sure not as bad as the mobile V&VI but still a sharp nosedive after PSP I&II, only good graphics were the assets shared from that.

>>9892456
Which is basically the best you can expect from remasters yeah

>>9892518
This, they're all great. The SaGa Frontier one is just about perfect and adds in cut content, including Fuse as one of the main characters.

>>9892548

>>9892421
Xenoblade 1 DE is the best remaster ever. Also Ico and SoTC on PS3 are pretty good but like with MGS HD collection, it looks like they just upscaled the textures and called it a day

>>9892207
This.

remaster fags end yourselves

>>9892202
pic not related
it's simply not good

>>9892579
>Xenoblade 1 DE
Loses all the soul of the original models in exchange for stock-standard generic anime shit to appeal to the lowest common denominator (this is you)

>>9892473
>censorship central
lol good one

>>9892606
I agree that the new models look like generic anime shit but the older models looked like complete dogshit as well

>>9892421
>Xenoblade Chronicles
I found it worse somehow still

>>9892263
>Do there exist any good remasters at all?
C&C is the gold standard of remasters. AOE2DE as well.

>>9892263
Diablo II: Resurrected is pretty nice

>>9892606
back to tumblr

>>9892706
>live service rental game
No, it’s cancer.

>>9892739
Yeah that part sucks. Visually it looks nice at least.

Pixel Remasters are perfectly fine, this board is just full of "old=good new=bad!" braindead contrarians

>>9892810
>removes Strago's unique spellcasting animation for lores
>perfectly fine

>>9892810
My only complaints was the font was awful, all of them had some weird stutter skipping bug on PC, and the color palette in ff6 was the shitty gba version

other than that, I enjoyed playing them again

>>9892421
You can see all the corners they cut in MGS2 by making the FMVs full screen, plus a lot of the animations clearly weren't designed for 60fps. The scene where Solidus' cape burns up looks like shit in the HD collection. I wish they had just upped the resolution and given us the Japanese voice acting.

>>9892810

>>9892232
>I wasted 70 bucks on this abortion.
serves you right for even wanting to play a remaster

>>9892810
New usually is bad and no amount of cultist babble will change that.

>>9892841
Famicon > PR > others > PSP/iOS

>>9892810
>le new = good
Fuck off.

>>9892810
>people on a board dedicated to old games preferring old games makes them contrarians
Why can't you faggots just stay on /v/?

FF6 is shit though

>>9892439
Not him, but I love the PSP graphics. But yeah, IV PSP looks somewhat worse than I/II.

>>9892263
You have to be pretty contrarian to pretend FF1 and 2 aren't better on PS1.

>>9892518
The only old-timer who actually cares about his games and his fans.

>>9892232
University-trained game designers add very powerful, socially-linked content to the games that represent modernized viewpoints and give the game world a more inclusive atmosphere.

>>9893628
More like rich kids get shoved into "creative" positions in companies the family owns to give them an allowance and get them out of the way

>>9892202

Mod it out... along with the other 12 dozen fatal flaws of the pixel remaster. Or just play GBA with sound restoration patch. Still unfortunately the definitive version of the game.

>>9892207
They're all fake and gay

>>9893846
>just play GBA with sound restoration patch
Sound quality is still dog shit. Resolution is still reduced. There's still slowdown when using the airship and various spells. The musical transition in the final battle are still broken. The extra content is not worth putting up with all that.

>>9892232

Modern corporations are incapable of doing almost anything correct.

>>9893846
>...
Stopped reading there.

>>9893614
Unlimited Saga?

>>9893875
I'd argue it's less that they can't and more that they now know they don't have to. They've largely figured out that marketing, social media blitzes, nostalgia pandering and relying on huge loyal pre-established fanbases will carry them through all but the most catastrophic product launches. The product, then, just has to be "good enough" and hit just the right marketable notes to succeed, without actually having to worry about doing something unique or just plain polished.

tl;dr they've figured the market out, and it turns out quality is but a secondary part of the market success equation.

>>9893997
>tl;dr normalfag cattle will drag us all down into hell
ftfy

>>9892812
>using Strago

>>9894023
Strago's a fine, solid character. He's just not as good as Terra or Celes setups-wise, but Grand Train is a fine ability that's relatively easy to get that lets him deal very good damage without needing to grind for Ultima.

>>9893540
FF1 on PS1 would've almost been perfect if it kept the same inventory system as the NES version and then ported to a different console after that so there's little/no loading.

>>9894083
>FF1 on PS1 would've almost been perfect if it..ported to a different console after that so there's little/no loading.
Dude.

>>9892207
The SNES remakes of the first 3 Dragon Quest games are superior in nearly every metric, and I say this as someone who played them immediately after finished the original NES games.

>>9893997
>They've largely figured out that marketing, social media blitzes, nostalgia pandering and relying on huge loyal pre-established fanbases will carry them through all but the most catastrophic product launches.

I truly do not understand normalfags. I have a theory that most people don't form their own opinions, that they genuinely don't know how to, and that they parrot whatever they think is the consensus that will get them the most praise/least criticism from others. You can even see this in games that are perceived poorly - the attitude that The Last of Us 2 is a piece of woke shit did not become prevalent until a few notable youtubers voiced it, and those youtubers did not voice that opinion until the leaks happened and the initial reaction by many people was shock and disgust.

>>9892681
>C&C

The new rifleman gunfire sounds suck fucking cock

>>9892780
>every character is fuck ugly
>lighting is atrocious
>gritty artstyle of the original is totally gone

No

>>9892810
>numerous people citing specific things they dont like

>UGH YOU GUYS ARE JUST LE TEMPLATE ARGUMENT

I wish niggers like you were banned on sight.

>>9892841
This gif would probably work better if it wasn't obscenely blurry.

>>9894252
I want to say part of it is just people being social, tribal creatures looking to conform, and the other being that a lot of people simply don't have the time or desire to sit down and think about shit. They're too busy working, tending to their families and generally just trying to get by. The more brilliant among us can do both, of course, but not everyone can, and even those that do have the time often just find it easier to get their takes from their favorite opinion mouthpiece.

>>9894267
>looking to conform

This should never be a thing. I hate it, I feel like the majority of people are just riding the wave of consensus instead of giving an honest opinion. So much of society and social interactions are based around forcing dissenters to either tow the line or excluding them entirely, individuality is a total farce, you can only be "safely" individual. It's one of the reasons I still love 4chan despite it being mostly a shithole now, it is the one place on the internet where conformity is not enforced at all. Everywhere else you can't "be mean" or "upset others" by disagreeing with them too much, on here you can dig your heels in and defend your position forever and there is jack shit anyone can do to overpower you.

The worst part about this is that it's nothing new. How many retarded children in the 90's got into shouting matches over which console is better because of some retarded tribalistic desire to defend "their" console?

>>9894149
>>9894083
>PS1 version has amazing music, but garbage ass loading times and dull color
>GBA version has no loading times and gorgeous colors, but atrocious music

N

>>9894274
Eh, 4chan has its own way of making people conform to certain views. While it's true there's no top-down enforcement of "correct" opinions, and you can dissent "freely", at the end of the day certain opinions are vastly over-represented here, and dissenters from said opinions are mercilessly told to kill themselves, go back, called troons or spammed with wojaks, etc., and let's be honest, most people don't care enough to withstand all of that and stand their ground, so they just don't bother.

>>9892263
FFVI in gba is better than the original snes one, with some extras

>>9894289
Yeah, this is true. Plus the format makes it so whichever side of the argument spams the most can create the illusion of being right. Sometimes the truth gets buried under a mixture of insults, wojaks, and walls of bullshit text.

>>9894310
All that said, I still love this place and at least my posts (generally) aren't modded here for stupid reasons like most gaming forums nowadays. I posted on GameFAQs for the first time in years, sad to see how bad the moderation has gotten there. Not that it was ever good.

>>9894267
>and the other being that a lot of people simply don't have the time or desire to sit down and think about shit. They're too busy working, tending to their families and generally just trying to get by
Jews take advantage of this.

>>9894289
4chan can force people to conform but I also think that if you can resist the conforming - if something truly has some positives worth talking about - someone else on 4chan will see you making the effort to discuss it and respond seriously. And then others will break consensus.

A lot aren't able to resist the shit flinging but I was used to how bad places like SA or gamefaqs were over a decade ago in regards to forced consensus and came here just to escape it all.

>>9892810
I've been playing them and while they aren't horrible, there are some really shitty and lazy decisions they made. 1 has chaos rebalanced so you practically need a white wizard, ruining the fun of using different parties.
2 would have been great, but they fucked up the cool design of the cyclone, jade passage and pandemonium dungeons. How lazy to just make them look like another castle.
3 made it so you aren't punished for switching jobs, which is nice, but the game is just too easy.
4, 5, and 6 were just unnecessary. The rearranged music in those is horrible.
I'd say 2 and 3 are worth getting, but they aren't going to replace the originals.

>>9894280
And the WSC version is even faster and arguably has the best chiptune soundtrack.

>>9894437
What forced consensus did you escape from on SA and GameFAQs?

>>9894462
>best soundtrack
>not msx

>>9892263
Resident Evil 4 HD Project is the only one I will defend and that was made by two Spaniards.

>>9892681
C&C remaster is mobile FF tier shit

>>9894501
You can switch to the original graphics if you don't like the new ones.

>kusoge

>>9892407
You're dumb.

>>9894579
That doesn't undo the insult.

>>9892263
shenmue

>>9894651
Cool way to say you have no argument.

>>9894675
Your word salad is too retarded to even be addressed.

>>9894715
I'm not that anon, retard.

>>9893189
Agreed, I played everything from ff1 to ff5 and when I got to ff6 I just dropped it after an hour or so and never ever picked it up again.

>>9892681
The C&C remaster weighs unreal level of gigabytes.

>>9894737
>retard calls me a retard
hmmm

>>9894301
porting a Square JRPG to the GBA's sound hardware is unacceptable, period

>>9892810
>"old=good new=bad!"
You retards always try to sell this strawman. It has nothing to do with being old or new, you dipshit. The original games were incredible works or art made by talented and passionate people who wanted to create something amazing. The Pixel Remasters are pale imitations made by B-team developers just trying to make a paycheck. Probably on a deadline, and outsourced too. THAT is the difference. Remasters and Remakes are almost never better than the originals for this reason alone. There are obviously exceptions to this but that's just how it is. At least the PR were better than the mobile remasters.

>>9892263
If you include remakes then Trials of Mana is honestly better than SD3.

>>9894657
You're joking right? The remasters are terrible because they were pawned off to a cheap British studio and Sega expected them to develop three versions in a short time. Glitches and bugs out the ass, especially sound problems like the poor audio quality of the Japanese voices.

>>9892810
I think they're mostly fine but should have included extra stuff from other remakes. Also the redone opera scene in FF6 is worse IMO. It's just a cutscene where you hit confirm a few times, Octopath'd graphics that look weird, the singing sounds like it was done using either a vocaloid program or just grabbing some cheap singers and applying a shitty voice filter to them.

>>9894832
>no multiplayer

the whole
>every remaster is worse than the original
bullshit needs to end. It's the rule, sure, but there are exceptions. Cope, purist retards

>>9894847
Small tradeoff for a game that's vastly improved in playability. Being able to actually use Angela without relying on a glitch especially.

All remasters are, were and forever will be, shit.

>>9892272
SMAS downplays the stage play aesthetic from the original 3 because the backgrounds have a lot more depth - and the blocks no longer cast shadows on the background.

It's a minor thing but World 7 in the original game, all the backgrounds use an orange color for the sky - in my mind that was because the sun was setting because you were approaching Dark Land so the sun was going down. It helped evoke a sense of time passing and anticipation because you felt you were nearing the end of the game. SMAS throws in a lot of blue skies here so the whole mood is lost.

SMB 1 and LL , lack the iconic pixel art of the original version and the sound effects sound weak. I like the new scenes with the Toads though. I think the only game that actually comes out better is SMB 2 (USA) as it looks much more bright and lush here and doesn't lose anything in the translation.

>>9894832
I was really skeptical about this one when it came out but yeah...you're right. They had a lot of room to approve though as SD 3 has tons of flaws.

the remaster of FF1-6 is really good, dunno why everyone seems to lambast it, the font? too bright? missing the GBA port extras? none of those are deal breakers, if you were going to emulate the originals then it doesn't make sense to not just go ahead and play the remaster instead. it's high resolution, it's high quality remaster soundtrack, it's a beastiary, it's the world map with some points of interest, like something you might want to try and find, probably would use a guide normally, marked on the map for you. it's just a great remaster.

but it's priced a lil too high. idk i am a cheapo. pirate it and you're gold.

>>9894867
I don't think people ever said remasters can't be better. When I say I don't like the Pixel Remasters, I'm not saying all remasters are bad.
>>9895135
I just don't see see the point of it, as it looks worse than the original to me. I'm not a fan of the new colors, sprites, menus, or any of it really. In the case of VI it also has little changes that are lame, like removing Strago's spell animation or making the grass in Jidoor the same as every other World of Ruin town. Along with pointless censorship like changing Gestahl's salute or changing Edgar's dialogue.

I'm a little disappointed that this is the only version of VI some people will ever play now. I'll stick to the original version for myself, and if I want something new I'd rather play T-Edition or another hack.

>>9895413
Not a fan of the gameplay changes I've seen either, like Sabin's Blitzs
>A guide appears at the top of the screen.
>If the player enters an incorrect sequence before confirmation, the assigned Blitz will reset and the player can again input the correct sequence. This can happen any number of times until a valid sequence is entered and confirmation is enabled.
Along with more minor stuff like
>A Pre-emptive battle no longer guarantees the party to Flee.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VI_version_differences#Final_Fantasy_VI_Pixel_Remaster

Another knock against the graphics for me
>Several tilesets for towns and dungeons are based on the tilesets from the Mobile and Steam versions.
The Pixel Remaster is at least much nicer looking than those versions, I'll give it that.

>>9892263
RE4 HD Project. Literally the same exact game but with 100% faithful 4K textures, modern resolutions, and 60fps. Everything a remaster should be.

>>9895135
>none of those are deal breakers

This is the issue with people like you, you allow far too much shit. Even one of those is way beyond what is acceptable.

>>9895413
>I'm a little disappointed that this is the only version of VI some people will ever play now.
i'm not, i don't suffer any bias and can easily tell that the remaster is better 7 ways to Sunday.

you can move diagnally, so to flip the script - it starts making the original a deal breaker! think that if you're going to nitpick stuff like the font, or the colors, then might as well turn around and nitpick the OG for lacking diagnal movement when a lot of the areas require you to walk in that direction

>>9894657
Really bad
Remasters ALWAYS break something

>>9892263
Perfect Dark. Character models are goofy as fuck but the framerate on the N64 version is so unbelievable shit it's worth dealing with because 60FPS makes the game so much better to play. Too bad it's stuck on the Xbox but mouse and keyboard injection at 60FPS on emulators exist which is my preferred method to play these days. Perfect Dark could have been a Silent Hill 2 tier remaster and it would still be better to play because of the framerate.

Nightdive remasters of Turok 1/2 are also the objective best way to play them now for similar reason to Perfect Dark they fix all the technical limitations/issue the N64 versions had, Joshua's face does look stupid as hell in the portrait but that is such a minor thing. Otherwise they are very faithful visually to the originals. Better framerates would be of little importance in a JRPG remaster but when your talking about a genre like FPS where it is more important than almost any other genre besides maybe fighting games you can overlook some issues because they are just outright better to play. That's probably why JRPG remasters get so scrutinized over visuals because technical improvements like framerate don't make a massive difference vs an FPS that used to run in the teens or even single digit framerates at times.

Windwaker WOULD be better than the original if it wasn't for how fucked the visuals are from the mid 2000s tier bloom but the addition of the super sail and changes to the triforce hunt are a large improvement, also fixable to some extent with emulation.

>>9892407
Yr butt

>>9896971
the visuals are improved, but cutting out part of the triforce hunt is unforgivable. it's laughable to praise a remaster that went out of its way to circumvent the things unique to the game, a fucking sail that lets you skip using the wind waker to choose directions, and on top of it makes the boat go way faster too - just cyberfuck my shit all up.

>>9892579
yes DE is great. Fixes the max damage glitch and adds some unecessary content.

Link’s Awakening DX, easy slam dunk

>>9892263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drpp6zhFSU0&ab_channel=IGN

>>9892263
FFX/2-HD are really good

Wild Guns Reloaded
The Ninja Warriors Once Again
Pocky & Rocky Reshrined

The only three good "remasters" in existence.
Those are your exceptions.

>>9898872
These games are awesome. I love the..."Super 16-bit" style - they don't look like how the games actually looked, but they look like how you remember them - amazing aesthetic all around.

>>9898872
once again is a remake

>>9894280
Thank god you can emulate the PS1 version and fastforward through the loading

>>9894924
in what world is that considered small? the coop was the snes mana games strongest feature. they single handedly destroyed that remake by removing it

>>9899269
Reshrined is actually a sequel tho.

>>9900279
tell him not me

>>9892403
How do you qualify one as a remake vs remaster? Do you call your uncle at squeenix to tell you whether they reused source code?

>>9892202
Literally nothing wrong with the remaster you turbo autist but I'd love to see your ridiculous list of reasons why its bad.
>inb4 this one tree sprite had a pixel color shifted!

>>9894652
Shut the fuck up retard

>>9900353
Sorry

>>9892518
Came here to post this.
>SaGa Frontier has playable Fuse.
>RS2 finally playable.
>Minstrel Song for the current gen.

>>9900349
read the thread you illiterate mongaloid, shit was censored or animations removed like strago

>>9892263
Metroid prime remaster is pretty damn faithful to the original, the only thing they didn't get right was the doors.

>>9900815
there's more than just that, there's no lighting on the projectiles anymore as well and numerous other minor things i cant be fucked to mention

still a good game though

>>9894023
Cope. My team is
Strago
Mog
Umaro
Gau
and nobody can stop me.

>>9892207
The SaGa Frontier remaster was pretty good. I preferred the PS1 sprites, but playing the game at 3x speed without butchering the music was a very welcome change

>>9900815
When will you /v/edditoers learn to stop replying to age old posts with several dozen fluff replies as if the initial anon is still here? Fuck sake, it's like you only react to the number of replies instead of the contents of the post itself.

>>9900848
That's going to be my team when I progress a bit further into T-Edition.

>>9900848
My team is
Terra. With gembox and marvel shoes x2 ultima
Locke with offering and genji glove, valiant knife and atma weapon x8 attacks
Edgar dragon boots and dragon horn I use pearl lance just in case it casts pearl often x3 attack
Cyan. Yes cyan. Tards don’t know how to use him properly. Intentionally give his low speed while everybody else is doing their thing he’s charging up his bushido x4 attacks
Spent the past month 100%the game lol. Even got all 253 rages

>>9901749
>Spent the past month 100%the game lol. Even got all 253 rage
i did this a few years back to get a 100% save on my cart, the rage collecting and triple checking i don't go beyond any points an item or char i missable was annoying

>>9901749
Good setup, though I personally would switch the Aegis Shield with the Force Shield, since it would get her to 127 MBlock, which makes her nearly untouchable. Alternatively, switch the Minerva with the Force Armor so she becomes truly untouchable by everything except for unblockable attacks, many of which ignore defense anyway.

>>9901752
I own all the RPGs on the Super Nintendo I’m currently working on 100% them all. FF6 is the most annoying to do so far. And that’s coming from somebody who’s maxed 7th saga lol

>>9901758
By the way, this setup is so incredibly broken that by using it, Terra can effectively solo the entire final battle all by herself. All other party members were completely unequipped and not a single command was used by any of them. And to top it off, this was with Terra at level 21, without even having Ultima (though admittedly I spammed Quick, but mostly to save time; I don't think it's necessary at all).

>>9902085
127 MBlock makes her invulnerable to damn near everything. The only things that can kill her are Kefka's HyperDrive, Goner, Meteor and Ultima, and with Morph, she can end the battle well before he can use any of them.

>>9892263
They did a pretty bangup job with this one.

>>9896971
The 360 version still has horrible visual glitches on xenia.

>>9902085
For me, it's making Kefka kill himself with Gau's Nightshade rage.

>>9898860
I like them and my preferred version but they're somewhat flawed.
HD is to the best of my knowledge the single and only way to play X-2 with Japanese voices and international content.
At the same time, there were a lot of changes made to the art direction that are quite questionable.

>>9892263
Fire Emblem 3 includes a remake of Fire Emblem 1 that I enjoy.

>>9902208
that's a remake retard

>>9902898
Hell, I would argue it's still the best FE1 remake.
>but it's abridged!
In other words, it trims the fat.

>>9892207
The RE4 remake was a great improvement though because they fixed the broken movement controls

>>9900815
Metroid Prime remaster is an ugly pile of shit

>>9892202
What version of this am I supposed to play? The SNES original, Woolsey warts and all?

>>9903072
snes original if you want the og
mod the woolsey out with a romhack if you want
ps1 if you want to wait
gba if you want shitty music and some extra dungeons
pr stock if you don't give a shit and just wanna play the game without emulation. also newly arranged soundtrack
pr with mods to do literally whatever the fuck you want with the graphics and sound

>>9903072
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3813/
This is the only thing you need, ignore every text rewrite hack and their sycophants since that well is beyond poisoned, maybe play T-Edition (best Nihonhack) or Divergent Paths (best Anglohack) afterwards if you want a New Game+ sort of experience for your next playthrough but they should not replace your first experience, re-releases have censorship issues.

>>9903263
>mute graphic changed back to moon runes

Why do they do this?

>>9898860
the faces don't emote anymore. big deal for a game about characters that fall in love with each other

>>9902914
No it is not.

>>9903319
>new character added
>stages re-done to be 16:9
>it's not a remake
retard

>>9903321
>>stages re-done to be 16:9
So, a remaster. Glad you concede.

>>9903280
It's basically how the PS1 conversion was presented since Sony didn't carry over Nintendo's censorship policies.

>>9892608
>LiveALive
>censorship central
what did they mess up?

>>9903263
>instead of V1.1, it supposesly uses V1.0 as a base
>aka literally the -only- version of the game with the gamebreaking Sketch bug
Why? Why is every FFVI romhack cursed to have something supremely sucky about it?

>>9892263
Halo 2 anniversary looks like the game you remembered most of the time, and if you don't like it you can always just press Tab to get the original graphics. Halo 1 anniversary on the other hand is artistic rape

>>9903329
>glosses over added content
>ignores it's all new art and content
you're still retarded

>>9903520
Still not a remake, retard-kin. That's like saying Sonic Origins' is a remake when it's ripped ports.

>>9903494

>>9903832
Wrong faggot, it's a remake no matter how hard you don't want it to be. You're still retarded, retard-kun.

>>9904316
Thanks, that's unfortunate. Is the new script bad enough overall that I should not play the new version?

>>9904347
The only other script change is a baffling change of the Japanese word for love into "AIIIIEEEE" in the caveman story. There are a ton of good minor fixes and a new thematically appropriate final boss that make it worth playing.

>>9904353
Thanks anon, I will check the game out sometime. I always thought Live A Live sounded interesting but just never got around to actually playing it.

>>9904353
I remember getting really fucking upset over "AIEEEE." Humanity's first word going right over the localizer's head and made into another stupid joke was almost enough for me to right off the remake.
I also find the new final boss pretty lame, although not everyone will agree with me on that.

>>9892202

>>9903494
>>9904353
>The only other script change
Come now, there's a LOT more where that came from - https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/08/16/english-localization-of-square-enixs-live-a-live-found-to-be-riddled-with-poor-translation-and-censorship/
You should dig through the archives back when the remake was released, they cover even more examples like changing a vapid female NPC's empty thought telepath box.

>>9904341
>Same models/assets
>New additions
>Ported to other systems
Still not a remake, retard-kun.

>>9904316
Good riddance, pantyfags get the rope

>>9903510
>using Sketch

>>9896458
He's right, though.

>>9904536
Okay that is a bit annoying, but what’s more annoying are the comments on that page full of douchebags ranting about their tinfoil hat thoughts.

>>9904536
>so many comments on that page spouting about “Far-Left” boogieman
Americans don’t know what Left actually is.

>>9904731
That's understandable, since it's moving rapidly every day.

>>9904536
yeah I saw that article when doing my my own search.

>even more examples like changing a vapid female NPC's empty thought telepath box.
Have not heard of that change before.

The changes seem bad enough to not buy the game but also minor enough that I may still play the game.

>>9892263
Dragon Quest 5 DS remaster adds best wife.

>>9905630
>intentionally tries to make it worst wife as a joke
>accidentally made best wife
How the hell did that happen? Are Japenis just that fucking stupid with women?

>>9905729
Because surprise, making an imperfect character with edges which starts loving the protagonist for real as the journey continues actually creates natural character development. Something the other wives lack since one comes without a personality and the other one never shuts the fuck up about childhood ghost hunting stories.

>>9904536
>fan-translated emulators
Stopped reading there.

>>9905878
Yeah that article sucks lol, shame because the comparisons themselves are valid.

>>9894015
I think everyone on 4chan is a degenerate pig, but yeah Normie's are gonna fuck the planet and somehow the losers here are the only ones that care...

>>9892681
C&C remaster ost sucks dick

>>9904316
As far as the jap vs English translation of the remake from the pics it isn't bad

>>9892548
It has either the Remake soundtrack or the SNES soundtrack while having the GBA bonus content AND a better translation than either the GBA or Pixel Remaster versions.
The inferior graphics are a small price to pay.

That said, The After Years is an awful sequel that is the FF4 equivalent of The Force Awakens, but at least the gameplay is fun.
Interlude is crap, it's a half-assed ROM hack of FF4 that tries to solve a plot hole in After Years, only to make an even bigger plot hole.

My preferred versions installed on my PC:
>I
PSP 20th Anniversary Edition + Steam Pixel Remaster
>II
PSP 20th Anniversary Edition + Steam Pixel Remaster
>III
Steam 3D Remake + Steam Pixel Remaster
>IV
PSP Complete Collection + Steam 3D Remake + Steam The After Years 3D + Steam Pixel Remaster
>V
Steam Old Version + Steam Pixel Remaster
>VI
Steam Old Version + Steam Pixel Remaster

Playing the mobile versions of V and VI in their native resolutions with LosslessScaler doing a sharp bilinear interpolation is actually pretty good.
Still not as good as the PSP remasters, but surprisingly good considering how awful they look rendered in "native" 1080p.
V Mobile's native resolution is 640x384 while VI Mobile's native resolution is 480x320

>>9907725
It's incredible how shit TAY's plot is on the whole. You know it's bad when they just end up repeating plot points from the first game but with different characters. Edward's Tale was the worst offender here by far. The only characters who had an interesting arc here were Edge and Palom.

>>9907760
Exactly! That's why I said it's the Final Fantasy IV equivalent of The Force Awakens.
Pretty much a copypasta of the original but with new OCs with the original cast passing on the torch to a new generation.

>>9907773
Except the OC donut steels do fuck all. IIRC all Ceodore ends up doing is sort of help Kain out and, together with Golbez and Rosa, get Cecil back to normal.

>>9892263
>Do there exist any good remasters at all?
C&C Classic got a great remaster, the Halo remasters were good too. Katamari Reroll was very good but it used a different font, and missed a bunch of special effects (some which were not necessary due to the increase in resolution).

>>9894316
GameFAQs was so great before CJayC sold it, it went to shit afterwards, but damn, I never expected it to become that bad.

>>9907782
Forgot to say, the only one I found even remotely interesting was that cleric chick that Palom trains, and only because of the dynamic she has with Palom and how she helps to show another dimension of his character, so even here she was more an accessory to help build up another character from the original than an outright character in her own right. At least she was kind of cute, though.

>>9894501
C&C Remaster can toggle the old graphics with literally a button press, in real time in-game.

Also note that the pic on the left isn't even from the game, it's a mockup. Cruisers don't have muzzle flash like that, their bullets have a travel time so they don't immediately destroy buildings, the soviets have a gap generator and a pillbox, and there's a C&C95 radar in there.

Snes jrpgs are shit. They haven't aged well.

The west started writing good stories and in hindsight you realise how childish Japanese writing is in comparison

Gaijin are just superior

>>9903510
I'm pretty sure it still patches well with 1.1, don't see why it wouldn't.

>>9903510
dumb story; sketch bug gave our first family playthrough 99 economizers, atma weapons, and gemboxes! We were too stupid to ever find a Genji glove or learn Ultima but I nuked the way to Kefka eventually. Dad was there for the glitch but they were dead before the showdown with Kefka. Actually I think the last place we played the game together was Celes start in the world of Ruin, so obviously we didn't catch the right kind of fish and Cid died and Celes tried to off herself. Dark! As dark as the old 14 inch 70's CRT we played it out on really.
Take that Pixel Remaster. You can't compare to my powers of nostalgia, even as you try to make profit from my inability to grow up.

>>9909634
Anon, I kneel before your wholesome story. At least I can say my older brother and I also share a bond over this game, though.