/vr/ - Retro Games

Wario Land 4 looks better

Try playing something made after 2005?

this thread is coping about the other one.

SOTN had an incoherent mix of graphics ripped from Rondo of Blood with new art.

>>9890293
Not with those oversaturated graphics.

>>9890710
Turn some color filter on if it bothers you that much.

>>9890276
>what the fuck happened?
Didn't sell.

>>9890713
>it’s my job to make a game look good

>>9890276
>2d
>better
Anon, 2D is based on artistry, it technically can’t be better except be higher resolution

>>9891037
It's your job to play the game on the fucking hardware it was designed for, which was a shitty early 2000's TN panel that muted the garish colours. Your logic is like saying Doom is shit because you're struggling to play it with a Guitar Hero controller, and then bitching "oh, so it's my job to make the game fun?"

You know, maybe it is your job, maybe you should have the Protestant Work Ethic necessary to extract your own enjoyment from things.

Megaman 8 is the best looking 2D sprite based game.

>>9890276
Because major companies don't pay large teams of talented veterans to do stuff like that anymore

Best pixel art ive seen in recent years is Blasphemous

>>9890276
PoR had better graphics though

>>9890952
>Didn't sell
>got a greatest hits reissue

>>9891695
All reissues got the Greatest Hits label, even if they only printed 5 discs on their first run.

>>9890702
It was quite coherent.

>>9892074
Retard, you needed to sell a specific amount of units to get any reissues in the first place.

>>9890952

>>9890276
dunno
no 2D games were ever made again
quite sad really

>>9892764
the 90s have just never been topped
we should've all killed ourselves on january 1, 2000 to save ourselves from the mediocrity

>>9892778
RIP 2D gaming =^(

>>9890276
Muramasa, dragons crown, Odin sphere are all prettier.

>>9890710
play it on the gba

>>9892764
>>9892778
>>9892794
I think OP was wondering why tileset based sprites haven't improved, not necessarily 2D. I'm curious about that too, given that tilesets scale up better than massive one-off 2D artwork like that in your posts.

>>9891613
god damn dude

>>9891613
fucking destroyed holy shit

>>9892764
>>9892778
>>9892794
Came to post Vanillaware, but you magnificently beat me to it. To be more contemporary look at Princess Crown on Saturn, I think that inches out SotN in terms of 2D graphics. SotN is one of my favorite games too.

>>9891613
holy based

>>9890702
yeah and it was kino

>>9891613
Based Prot work ethic reference

>>9891613
>Protestant work ethic
>Playing vidya

Fucking really dude

>>9891613
based

yaaa i’m a big fan of the ps1 era 2d graphics. it really felt like the peak. we had mvc, alpha 2 and 3, castlevania, metal slug, darkstalkers, bof, ff origins, abe, and rayman even. there was some great looking and fun 2d games. i know other consoles had better ports or more frames, but i wish there was more for the ps1. isn’t good japanese 2d ps1 exclusives?

>>9894739
oops are there any good japanese 2d ps1 exclusives?*

>>9894726
Not very bright, are ya son?

>>9893074
Yeah, nobody works with sprites or tilesets anymore. People stopped as soon as they weren't limited by resolution and palette. Such a shame that high quality pixel art just isn't a thing anymore.

>>9895452
FFS, the image didn't attach, now my sarcasm just looks like stupidity.

>>9891613
My nigga.

>>9890276
Sprites are expensive please understand

>>9890276
I've been listening to the soundtrack a lot lately. I'm working on a book that has a similar dark fantasy setting, though it's a little more goofy/lighthearted. I still need to actually play the game though.

>>9892778
This one is still the best I think in terms of 2D game graphics.

>>9895454
Is that a modern indie game? Is it Chinese or non-Chinese?

I'd like to purchase it to promote 2D-ism.

>>9896834
It's an indie game called Owlboy. Pretty sure you can get it on GoG, Steam, and other modern spyware.

>>9890276

>>9896823

The soundtrack is what made the game for me. I am currently on my 5th play-through. The tracks never get old.

>t. 9 years old when it came out, just got around a year and a half ago to play it

>>9890713
Golly, this walk cycle is fucking spectacular

>>9891613
Based. Fuck emufags.

>>9891613
Jesus, dude didn't have to hit em w the protestant work ethics

>>9897039
You can use an LCD shader on an emulator which seems to fall under the point of the post

>>9897039
>>9897045
You can also use different palette settings too that would more closely match the original palette on the shitty GBA LCD if you don't like shaders.

>>9891675
>Best pixel art ive seen in recent years is Blasphemous
Yep, shit is good

>>9890276
Yoshi's Island already outdid that on weaker hardware

>>9891675
>>9897452
Thirding Blasphemous. That game is a masterpiece in all manners.

>>9897452
This gif is too big for here but is an example.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2021/vVaNj7.gif

>>9897468
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2021/vVaNj7.mp4

>>9897468
>>9897471
That gif doesn't do it justice, the game is much smoother than that. People who shit-talk pixel art should be forced to hand in their eyeballs and play text adventurers with MS Sam.

Third Strike
Metal Slug 3
In the Hunt
all superior 2D

Kof 13 has the best sprites ever made, I would be impressed if anything ever surpasses it

>>9894739
>>9894742
Panzer Bandit

>>9890276
Why would it get better?
It was 2D as a stylistic choice, not as a limitation, like earlier games. It would take a better artist, not better tech

>>9894742
Harmful Park
Rapid Reload (also in EU)
Cotton 100% (not exclusive but JP only)
Advanced V.G. 1 and 2 (same as above)
Pukunpa (same as above)
Detana TwinBee Deluxe Pack (same as above)

>>9898082
Forgot the Parodius games somehow, not exclusive and the first one is also in EU but still nice looking 2D games for PS1

>>9891037
It wasn't your job to remind Nintendo that a backlit light was needed either nig

>>9891613
Protestants are still catholics/denominationals, waifufag.

Some fans of the series endlessly complained because they were a significant departure from the old style, but the sprites of the 3DS Mario & Luigi games were amazing, some of the best in recent years. Possibly the reason why the company went bankrupt even.

You people that post Blasphemous and Owlboy and similar modern stuff have no taste. It's the limitations that made early pixel art (80s - 90s) to be so special. Take that away and that modern pixel art is just a low res digital painting. The early pixel art is akin to mosaics and requires much more ingenuity. How can you not tell the quality difference between something like Owlboy and SOTN is astounding.

>>9898082
>>9898085
ah these looks awesome thanks. mobile light force (gunbird) and in the hunt are great but I wish we got more 2D shooters here.

>>9898606
The fucking OP said

>2D graphics STILL haven't gotten better than this
>STILL

none of that shit you said mattered

>>9898606
>How can you not tell the quality difference between something like Owlboy and SOTN is astounding.
You tell us.

>>9898606
>you can make good pixel art only at low res
Yeah, no.

>>9891613
fucking kek

> thinking indie shit like owl boy have better pixel art than capcom or konami ps1 / arcade area games
lol. lmao, even.

>>9891613
you can stop replying to yourself now

>>9898606
What makes pixel art pixel art instead of low-res/low-palette digital art or oekaki. Is the control of the pixels.

Was each pixel placed intentionally and does changing a cluster of pixels or even a single pixel change the shape? In those examples the answer is yes.

You're almost there but not quite. With your definition, oekaki and low-res digital art could be pixel art, despite that being the opposite point you're trying to make. If all it takes is low resolution and low palette, then I could take a photo, reduce it to 256 colours and 320x240 and say its pixel art but that would not be pixel art.

>>9898709
The lead artist of Owlboy is one of the best pixel artists ever.

https://pixeljoint.com/p/7755.htm

You don't know what you're talking about.

>>9898709
>>9898606
What's sad is that the skill of making great pixel art is so hopelessly lost to time now that we now get people who genuinely can't tell good piece of art from a mediocre or a bad one.

People who think Owlboy has "some of the best pixel art", ffs, what's wrong with you? It's ok looking on its own right, but it's just fucking tasteless compared to classic pixel art games - there's no control, no restraint, no getting around restrictions to make the best animations with limited memory, no creative use of a limited pallete and resolution etc. It's just pretty trees and skies and "muh cute pixel aesthetics". It's just playing your heartstrings by poorly imitating the classics, and it's all what it gets to fool you people.

Fucking Wario running animation from the other's guy's gif has better pixel art that the whole of Owlboy because of creative use of what was a available to the devs.
Or fucking Street Fighter or KoF or whatever, are you people blind to the sheer difference in the level of art in these games compared to Owlboy?

>>9899207
>>9899003
I posted his gallery.

If you go through his art and think it's shit then you're really just an idiot.

>it hasn't got the NES palette specifically, oh no it sucks.

Amiga games were using 512 colours, I highly doubt you'll find more than that on any Owlboy screenshot.

SotN doesn't restrict itself in colour choice either, so your point is moot. Neither do SNK games or late Capcom sprite work. Wario Land is hardly an example of restricted colour choice either.

Skullgirls and all Vanillaware games.

/thread

>>9899207
The whole point of Owlboy and Blasphemous was to move pixel art forward as an art style rather than just relying on nostalgia. Shovel Knight is the type of game you're thinking of (which was well done pixel art too for the most part, but was definitely relying on nostalgia with half assed NES restrictions that they weren't very strict with).

You're the one who is focused on nostalgia here. You don't actually like pixel art, you like retro games.

>>9891613
notice me senpai

>>9890276
*ahem*

>>9890276
I see how you baited people into talking about modern games
Bravo, I rate it 8/8

>>9893030
And now the look dark and decolorized.

>>9899251
>cluttered graphics
>mixels
>shimmering
>meme unity flare lights

NO

>>9899207
If you were talking about >>9899251 then I would agree with you. Because that's actually an example of low res digital art masquerading as pixel art.

>>9890276
I wish there was a mode on Dragon's Crown that made it a simpler arcade beat em up.

I love it still, and it looks amazing, it's fun to play, and has nice music

>>9899312

>>9899312
Looks pretty PS1 to me

>>9890276
lmao ok

>>9890276
art is hard