/vr/ - Retro Games

You can save in All-Stars. Otherwise I think they're just graphical improvements.

All-Stars has weird physics. Stick with the originals.

>>987850
All old Mario games have weird physics.

>>987853
but some are weirder than others.

The all-stars versions are 3% faster.

>>987882
*when you jump and hit a block

>>987840
SMB1 allstars moves you up slightly when you jump, resulting in a slowdown when you want to go fast

>>987840
Just go with the originals if you've never played them. Play the remakes after.

Be a man

>>987894
Dude! You are hard core!!

Neither, go for the GBA Remakes

>>987894
Oh shit, I play this a lot in one arcade that is near my uni

>>987894
What do you do in this version? Differences from NES version?

>>987924
http://www.mariowiki.com/Vs._Super_Mario_Bros..

The SNES version starts with more lives and lets you continue at the beginning of every world. It's casual.

>>987894
good alternative to getting your ass handed to you by SMB2.

>>987850
There is a patch to fix that.

>>987904
>Neither, go for the GBA Remakes

Worst advice. The voice acting is absolutely painful and ruins the entire experience. Not to mention the sound isn't as good as the SNES versions.

SMB1 isn't on GBA anyway.

>>987960
>SMB2J
Let's not confuse OP

>>987904
honestly, the GBA remakes are always buggy as fuck for me
my SMB2 is literally unplayable, it looks like a game genie took a dump on the screen, but I don't own a GBA genie or gameshark or anything.
SMB3 locks up every time I collect a card at the end of a level.

I would stay away from them.

>>987979

>SMB1 isn't on GBA anyway

oh you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpCpUvc83WE

>>987979

>someone is wrong on the internet

>>988010
>posting a bootleg

>>988015
>someone else is wrong on the internet

They gave it a classic NES resin.

I'm not sure what to recommend. All-Stars is a wonderful package. but if you played the originals first, you'll notice how bad the physics/music is in All-Stars. Even liking the new graphics comes down to preference.

>>987996
>>988010
oh fug. I had actually completely forgotten they had released those NES games.

I should get my paws on that.

>>988020
>you'll notice how bad the physics/music is in All-Stars.
Physics is one thing but don't be hatin on the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF3Ci1Qt0kw

>>988350
Yes dumbass how could you forget that

Definitely go with the originals.

Like others have already said, the physics in All-Stars is really wonky.

>>988365

>>988380
I lol'd

>>988380
You are forgiven. Now go buy a copy

I prefer the way originals play, look and sound.

The "update" feels sloppy

>>988474
It looks and sounds pretty great, physics difference aside.

>>988503

no, the muffled snes sounds are disgusting, so are the backgrounds

>>988528
your disgusting

>>988579
1 play the NES if you can. Something about the All-Stars version feels off. The jumping is a bit different plus hearing the original 8-bit sound feels more natural to me (bias opinion i know).
2 I feel you can play whichever you like. They both play the same (in my opinion). And it plays just great.
3 People will hate me for saying it but I can never play 3 on the NES ever again. Last time I beat it was a few years back when my roommate and I thought of 100% the game. Beating every stage no matter what. It was fun but it reminded me how much it would suck if something happened right then and there. So playing a version that lets you save is an added feature I'm 100% for.

>>988595
w-what

Short answer: you can't go wrong with either.

Long answer: I honestly feel that the save feature detracts from these games which were meant to be played in a single sitting. I also don't like the graphical changes, ESPECIALLY to SMB3.

dem out of gamut colors on the nes <3

seriously tho - start with mario sunshine.

>>988675
he he he he he so funny

Mario 1 - NES
Mario 2 - SNES
Mario 3 - NES

Play the original versions.
You get to abuse more glitches.

>>988862
Play the SNES version, you get to abuse saves.

I will admit to having beaten the first world of Super Mario 3 20 times to get 20 P-Wings so I can skip the fuck over parts of World 8 I have already beaten, but are forced to replay...like those fucking grabby hand zones.

Also the colors in SNES SMB2 are goddamn magical. Enjoy them to the fullest.

Play the GBA ports. Just trust me on this one.

>>988962
You should listen to this guy's advice. It was JUST WHAT I NEEDED!

>>988962
But I've been hurt many times before..

>>987996
>>988010
To be fair it didn't get an enhanced port of the All Stars version like the others did and instead was just a cheap port of the original, nothing added. I always thought it was odd that it was left out in that regard. SMB2J was left out as well (though again like SMB it had a Classic Famicom Series release, Japan only if I recall right).

Personally I had all the GBA rereleases except Yoshi's Island and didn't find them too bad. SMB2 was probably the most annoying with 3 and World being real non-issues in the voice department. I did think World's colors looked a little washed out though and sound was obviously off. Still, not terrible.

Anyways, as for the OP, coming from someone who grew up with the NES originals first, I'd say play whichever version you like. I honestly never noticed All Star's physics being off, that's news to me. They're great games regardless, enjoy them.

>>987996
>>988010
>When Nintendo started to sell emulators
These are based on PocketNES,
also PocketNES<Nestopia<Real NES.

>>988973
>JUST WHAT I NEEDED!

>>988962
>>988973
This, go get the Super Mario Advance games.

And Super Mario Bros. Deluxe.

By the way, is there any place that will tell me the difference between Deluxe and the original?

>>992003
http://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Bros._Deluxe

The SNES versions always looked and felt better, in my OWN OPINION!

But really that's what it comes down to, personal preference. They're great games however you play them.

>>987840
>show graphical differences between mario and mario
>no real difference
>not showing the huge difference in the Luigi sprites
what were you aiming for OP?

>>992003
Don't quote me as agreeing with >>988962, I was making fun of him

>>987979
JUST WHAT I NEEDED

SMB2 and SMB3 are better on the SNES. All Stars really improves SMB3 since it lets you save so you can actually play through the whole game at your own leisure. SMB2 is better just for the graphics and saving potential as well. Just make sure to play the NES version of SMB1 cause the jump physics for all stars is terrible.

eh I prefer all stars because its 1,2,lostlevels,3,world on a single cart

if youre not an elitist id recommend all stars

Even though Super Mario Brothers is the first game I've ever played, I'd never made an effort to actually beat it until now. I was cruising through it with minimal problems until fucking 8-2. The jump in difficulty from World 7 to World 8 is immense. I've been stuck on 8-2 for two hours. Luckily 8-1 is easy, but the problem I can not for the life of me find a reliable way to get past the pictured section of 8-2, and I know I've 2 other levels after this that are both probably even harder than this one. Is there a mushroom stuffed somewhere that I'm missing or what?

>>992003
you can play as weegee and DX has challenge and VS. modes and a lot of extras

Also an altered version of Lost Levels

>>997517
IIRC the koopas skip a block each time they hop down, so pay attention which block they are on and then get on the one below it; they'll jump right over you. I think you can just jump on top of the first koopa and then dodge the second one using the method I gave.

>>997530
Okay I checked a video and this is the block you want to get on. The second koopa will jump over you. Just jump past the first koopa and stand on that block.

>>997530
>>997546
Thanks. That might help. I just made it to 8-3 for the first time. Two sets of hammer bros with no mushroom and that damn jump to the piranha plant pipe after the second one is going to super rough.

>>997552
Yeah that part's a real pain. I normally just run through it and try to jump over them.

>>987840


Not a big deal.

You're sacrificing saving for the classic graphics going NES, but you can always use warp zones or whistles to get back to the world you were on.

>>997560
Let me clarify I'm referring to the individual ones latter. There's the sets of them standing on rows of blocks, and then after that there are several in a row that are just standing on the ground that you have to get past. For the ones on the blocks just try to run under them of over the top row depending upon where the hammer bros are. For the rest try jumping over them if you can.

>>997546
This doesn't seem to work consistently. I was only able to actually get into position to try it twice. One time, he bounced right over me, the second time, he clipped me and I died. So I guess I've just got to time it right. This game went from relaxing to brutal real fast.

>>997575
Here's a video of someone doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlzaIgkFyXU

>>997578
>>997575
>>997560
>>997552

You niggas are kidding right? It's an incredibly easy game. The only slightly difficult level is 8-3.

Even if you're not that good at games you should be able to beat it in 45 minutes.

>>997578
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlzaIgkFyXU
No, yeah. I did it. It's just... he clipped me the second time, so it's not really optimal if there's a chance he hits you.

>>997583
I never said it was hard. I'm just telling him how I beat those parts.

allstars is superior in every way.

>>997606
Save feature is a flaw.

>>997848
>The ability to save if you so desire is a flaw

You don't have to use it.

>>997848

You're really going to have to stretch it to convince me on this.

>>997583

IMO, world 7 is the overall toughest. And I think that's intentional, since the devs knew that would be the least played world.

Well, the save feature itself is flawed as it only saves your point at the beginning of a world or after beating a fortress (smb3).

>>987850
This.. weird physics in all-stars.

Example: you can do a running jump and clear the piranha plants in the tall pipes in the original. You can't make that jump in all-stars. Minor differences. Play the originals.

>>997868
World 7 is a fucking joke compared to World 8. 1-5 are downright easy. 6 has a couple tricky bits. 7 is somewhat challenging. 8 is murder.

>>997857
What if the games started you with 99 lives? Technically you could pretend you start with 3 and then go from there, resetting when you lose them all, but the flaw is still there. This is the same thing.

>>997859
The games were meant to be played in one sitting, or at least without saves. You're taking games that are already fairly easy and making them easier.

>>997920
>Example: you can do a running jump and clear the piranha plants in the tall pipes in the original. You can't make that jump in all-stars.

I died a lot because of this in All Stars. I was so used to being able to go over them with a jump that I'd just default to it out of habit.

SMB1 is best on the NES, with the GBA port being pretty close. SMB2 and SMB3 are best on All Stars. SMW on All Stars is identical to the original since it was already on the SNES.

Get All Stars + Super Mario World if you can.

>>998018
>The games were meant to be played in one sitting, or at least without saves.
I've always kind of wondered whether Super Mario Bros. 3 wasn't intended to have a a save function at some point in its development.

>>987840
>Any difference between them?
The NES games are uglier, have worse music, can't save and don't come on a handy compilation. That's about it.

>>998047
SMW is not on All Stars.

>>998092
>doesn't know about all-stars + world

>>998092
There was a version of All Stars that came with-

HE FUCKING POSTED A PICTURE OF IT YOU DUMBASS

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the voice acting in the GBA re-releases?

Play the originals. You're not just playing a game, but appreciating a piece of gaming history. Graphics don't mean shit.

Also, they're on a tiny little Game Boy screen.

>>998184
.....what??
I didn't think he was asking about playing the GBA re-makes, but the NES vs the SNES versions

>>998047
That's the best fucking cartridge I have ever seen.

all star one is baby mode
unlimited continues after each world

the graphic style also makes several of the secret coin blocks blatantly obvious

>>998134
JUST WHAT I NEEDED

>>988350
SMB2 was really the only soundtrack I liked. SMB1 and 3's remixes were really underpar.

>>998873
With some nice looking guts too.

>>998047
The version of World on All Stars and World has some graphical improvements, most notably Luigi's sprites are much better (Not just a recoloured Mario).

>>999124
>Picking up those cherries

LUCKY
LUCKY
LUCKY
LUCKY
LUCKY HERE I GO
>Really weak star theme plays

>>997526
Aside from graphics, Worlds 9 and A to D are completely gone and there is no wind. All the other extras are pointless bullshit unless you have a GB Printer

You vs Boo isn't too bad though and Challenge Mode adds replay value

This > NES = All night Nippon SMB = Vs SMB > GBA > All-Stars > SMB. Special

>>993463
HERE WE GO
I love that sound clip.