/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263#p9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1681/53/1681537308586.png

=== NEWS ===
[4-28] Eternity Engine goes Multithreaded (beta)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135380

[4-25] Duke Nukem 3D mod Legacy Edition 2.0 release on May 19th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgYz34AvD0

[4-19] What Lies Beneath, 11-maps episode for MBF21 RC1 revealed.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135165

[4-15] Unreal mod "Steele Dawn" V2 has been released
https://www.unrealsp.org/index.php/articles/reviews/steele-dawn

[4-15] Coincident achieves first ever non-TAS single segment run of Okuplok (ITYTD)
https://youtu.be/4PP6iqrgIM8

[4-12] Re: Mobilize Quake mod announced
https://youtu.be/KZOgpGb6YM0

[4-11] Doomer Boards projects compiled (01-57) (04-11-2023) (With latest fixes to Shatter Realm)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n9j77ptkec5md

[4-10] A 7-map demo of "Of Myth Relinquished" for Heretic is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134628

[4-9] Slayers Testaments for Quake trailer released
https://youtu.be/RkrXeQdQLCs

[4-9] Descent is getting a DXX-based raytraced build
https://youtu.be/Q970jljMTNkembed))

[4-9] The Quake 2 25th Anniversary Collaborative Unit is here!
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/Quake225ACU.zip

[4-6] New E4 inspired episode for Quake
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/the-spiritworld.208/

[4-3] Wad Scorecard v1.6 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133645

[4-2] What is Health? RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134785

[4-2] Anon shares a map about finding the lost 94 Protons release build
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vww5Y1FKFayLAN3mDGuOdbTg5WMIjZf

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RIP doomkid

So what mapper was it that actually passed away recently?

I was reminded that Hexen 2 has a semen demon as a playable class and i want her to give me a thighjob.

>>9862075
George Romero

>>9862235
He's been dead for five years already.

>>9862297
i didn't even know he was sick

re: NotBlood pitchfork
>>9858793
Well put. I like the charged attack because on high enemy HP settings you have long pitchfork duels with zombies (which end in the rad decapitation animation where their head falls straight down) but gets repetitive, while on low enemy HP settings the zombies get stunned and you need to wait for them to stand back up which also gets repetitive.
So the charged attack “solves” both repetitivenessess without taking away melee fights.

useless general

>>9862317
I'm more partial to Doom II myself.

>>9862047
What is the difference between PG-RAW.WAD and PG-RAW-X.WAD?

>>9862319
Solution is to combine the two, Heretical Doom 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx-wjYk1KEM

>>9862334
That's some real Illusion of Gaia shit.

>>9862308
Glad to hear it anon.

>>9862075
It was me

heh

>>9862371
He's not wrong, and really Doom 2 completed Doom 1.

>>9862371
It was also perfectly normal business practices back then, use the same engine, add a few bits to round out stuff missed the first time, knock out a sequel in under a year.

>>9862371
>Doom 2 was made as an in-between product while Quake was on the way
>Quake was rushed out with number of compromises
Fuck. Imagine the world where they took the time and made the best Quake possible AND we got Doom 3 for the original engine with maybe a handful of new additions.

>>9862393
Agree. I don't mind sequels being on the same engine and being "more of the same stuff" type deals. Although nowadays that kind of policy has mutated into the season pass type system which has some objections.

>>9862401
>Agree. I don't mind sequels being on the same engine and being "more of the same stuff" type deals. Although nowadays that kind of policy has mutated into the season pass type system which has some objections.
It worked for the most part too, people weren't exactly unhappy with stuff like Descent 2 or Fallout 2 or anything like that.

Even Spear of Destiny did decently enough.

Is it weird that I'm thinking about starting a small project just to use the Viscerafest OST in a Doom Project? I guess I would have to go for very fast playing maps.

It would be a shame to not use it somewhere.

>>9862489
Nah, quite a few mapsets have come out of being inspired by the music.

Mind you the Fun Police may decide you're a bad person if you post it on ZDF or Doomworld, in a similar way to the Ion Fury shit, since the developer is at least community-adjacent.

>>9861338
Hey wake up and gimme.
>>9862489
As long as it's appropriate, I wouldn't put something like BFG Division into River Styx.

>>9862496
>Fun Police

>>9862509
them moderators saying things like "ask permission to use their assets"

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! What the fuck have you been working on!? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>9862520
Just call them perverse ring, mutilators sect, witches coven. Why beat around the bush.

>>9862496
Implying I would upload it for someone else but you guys.
>>9862520
I don't think Markie Music would give a shit as long as it's non commercial. See how many people put Hulshults music in their stuff.

Speaking of how likely is it I can use this song for a youtube video I may or may not get around to making?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsUWUVQs4M8

shake it baby

>>9862521
Sony Vegas is a pain in the ass. I somehow managed to make it crash twice in a super hard way when I was trying to get the typewriter text in.

https://streamable.com/4qohhg

>>9862489
I often get motivation (or lack of) based on the music. To me it's a really integral part of the whole feel of it all, I'm not satisfied by making a map and as a finishing touch slapping some random Jimmy track on top.

And on that note I don't really even like midi music per se! There's so much Doom-like rock midis but I don't even know where to look for some alternate stuff.

>>9862521
You know, the usual. Trying to make a spiral out of particles and weird homing mechanics.

>>9862520
Little late for the community to start trying to do that now when it's been built on taking assets from wherever.

>>9862552
I just have this picture in my head when listing to the e1m1 ost of Viscerafest. It would group perfectly with JPCP's Final Doomer weapon pack and some fast paced action maps that don't last longer than 5 to 10 minutes.

>>9862567
Are you going to have the arrows pierce through enemies?

>>9862548
>2048 Units map

I was playing Pizza Tower. I kept falling to my death in a secret. But I saw him. I saw Mr. Combined Arm. Don’t think I didn’t see him, I’m not crazy.

>>9862613
I dunno. Maybe. I'm not sure how homing rippers would work correctly.

>>9862521
Working on that Quake model I posted a few days ago. Got the body mostly textured and now I'm starting on layers of clothing that I can interchange for different skins. The loin cloth and 'bra' pieces will take advantage of mdl transparency.

Face could probably use some work, but she's supposed to be evil and uncanny anyway since it's Quake. Not palettized yet, obviously.

>>9862628
This is a blue board anon

>>9862521
Working on maps for an yet-unnamed episode replacement. I'm particularly proud of how this arena looks and plays; especially since designing a fight like this is way out of my comfort zone.

>>9862640
I've seen more detailed Duke Nukem tits stay up fine. If literally 2 pixels gets me jannied...

>>9862647
Looks very classic doom 2 like. I would enjoy it. Good work anon.

I like the imp in the pinky horde at the beginning. Like a dog master unleashing his horde.

>>9862673
Yeah, the imps are there mostly to needle the player once they break out of the chokepoint but it does kinda look like he's the brains of the entire ambush now that you mention it. Poor schmuck then immediately got one shot.

>>9862696
At least he didn't became the fesst for his own pack as they followed soon in his demise.

>>9862696
>That'll show doomguy not to mess around...that brat's gonna pull pinkie teeth outta his ass for weeks I tell ya!

>>9862623
That took me by surprise the first time I saw him too.

>>9862371
You're allowed to say stuff like this when you made half the levels yourself. As far as I'm concerned Doom 2 is Sandy's game, for better or worse

>>9862548
Is that the Quack 2 pistol? I like it a lot.

>>9862647
I'm not a good mapper by any means, but that flesh pillar looks weird in contrast to the grass floor. Maybe you could raise it up a bit and have some cool similarly-themed steps to make it more dynamic. Just a minor gripe though.

>>9862759
You gotta give the man some credit. He definitly tried a lot. I don't "hate" his levels even if they never reached the highs of Doom 1. But hey, my favorite map out if Doom 1+2 is E4M2, so my taste might be off anyway.

>>9862054
>Better see those Hexen II Webms

I lied, I have nothing.

>>9862521
Ever since Going Down I've been kind of obsessed with weird marble faces.

>>9862791
I'm like 99% sure those sheep are higher poly than anything in vanilla Quake.

>>9862521
circle

>>9862521
I made this for a doom-themed SRB2K map that I never actually made, and don't have enough ideas for.

>>9862548
Not very knightly of you to insult His Highness favorite software.

>>9862521
Quake mapping is hella fun. Tho the Hell Knight crashes my game when it uses its ranged attack. :[

>>9862647
That pinky crowd with a couple of bony boys takes me back real quick to Baron's Lair, looks fun. Also love the lamp-lined high wall when you're outside.
>>9862759
When I don't enjoy his maps I at least like his ideas, and I enjoyed a lot of his maps. He had a kick for doing weird hell aesthetics in Doom, and I think I enjoyed Quake's fourth episode the most even with that scene of spawn rape.

Does anyone here have experience in editing quake 1 pak files? I'm trying to move/remove some assets from LibreQuake, but have it retain it's recognition as a registered quake game.
I've moved the assets to LibreQuake but then I get an error that says something like "only the registered version can play modified games".

wonder if some mod will "save" ideas from mighty doom
like the models being ripped for a quake mod or a gzdoom mod taking features like some specific enemy attacks

>>9862812
>Tho the Hell Knight crashes my game when it uses its ranged attack. :[
In Violent Rumble? If so, is it the standard ranged attack or the lightning/fireball one.
Engine and any console readout from the crash also helps.

>>9862768
You're right. I just threw in a small flesh bash to the pillar and it really pulls the room together.
>>9862834
That high wall is actually two textures, the grey concrete texture and the support trim from rhelltx pegged onto it as a midtexture. I do basically the same thing here with a brown brick texture and the brown brick with support trim texture to make the illusion of a really big wall with nature behind it. Only problem is that rockets don't really like these walls, but that basically doesn't come up in gameplay (so far anyways). Thanks for noticing, it was really fun realizing I could just kludge those textures together.

>>9862862
A toxic Caco sounds neat.

What are some big shot quake community maps/mapsets for someone wholly unfamiliar with quake community content.

>>9862862
>ideas
Yes, whether there's anything interesting.
>models
No, fuck this kiddy toy style.
There's already Slayer's Testaments, a big Quake mod which is nuDoom inspired. It has most monsters adapted to low-poly, and even some new ones iirc.

>>9862927
Arcane Dimensions
Alkaline
Dwell

unpopular opinion: the doom super shotgun is terrible for multiplayer balance

>>9862628
>reminds me of that naked blockhead-girl from QuakeUlf's FTP server

>>9863025
But that's not an opinion, it's a fact.

>>9863043
was expecting people to defend the ssg like its their child but ok

>>9862881
Been done loads over the years, there's a ton of realm 667 sprites and shit for that.

>>9862870
Sorry for late reply.
Yeah, I was using the Violent Rumble resources. (Tho I dunno if I'm fucking something up there; the custom stuff seems to work per that webm.)
Default Hell Knight attack. I actually didn't know it had other ones, so I'm glad you asked that! (Is there a manual for the VR resources that I'm missing?)
QuakeSpasm 0.95.1. Pic related.
I was playing VR through Ironwail before, and didn't have a problem with Hell Knights. The ones at the bottom of the gold key staircase in Clock Tower stood out to me, so I went back in QuakeSpasm and sure enough they crashed the game. (Same error, tho not this screenie.)

>>9862935
I just had a free idea that the Dwell team could steal after reminding myself of the Rapture's way of turning the Nehahra's Barons into mini-bosses...
Give each episode of Dwell an unique variant of DeathKnights for each element that would fit their theme besides just a mere skin-edit:
>Ep1. classic fireballs of vanilla Q1 (maybe also include a partially-homing version of it, utilizing the unused animation of DK launching their projectiles in a vertical pattern)
>Ep2. ice shards that have a random chance to rebound off walls
>Ep3(?). lighting-bolts with the same pattern of regular fireballs, but with a randomized spread simillar to a Grunts shotgun to lessen the guaranteed pain of mid-ranged engagements with them (and make them both a bit more unpredictable and to not make Shamblers redundant when they'd get placed together)
>Ep4(?). a homing Vorepod-style projectile (but much faster yet with poorer tracking, so kinda like how Wrath/Overlord shots are I guess) glowing spiked metal orb that implodes into a spherical shower of nails either upon contact with the player or any surface/entity after missing its intended target, or after a set timespan that makes it detonate likewise anyways (but the explosion itself being harmless and solely cosmetic, also just steal the model of Hexen2 Assassin's sticky-bomb weapon for it with minimal recolouring applied to its model's skin)
^OR alternatively for either 3/4 episodes (or exclusive to addon levels):
>uses the Qtest Scrag's "super-fireball" that just explode like in that demo, or detonates MultiGrenade-style into a bunch of "worldspawn lavaballs" affected by gravity

>>9863025
SSG is terrible for balance period. But it's the kind of balance that creates a new balance around itself and it's fun so it's fine.

>>9863069
The SSG is fine for singleplayer, but players are far more squishy.

>>9863149
Getting it the second map in really fucks weapon progression in Doom 2.

>>9863174
Hence pistolstarting is always and forever the way to play. Each map has its own designed progression.

>>9863025
Hot take, the pump action needs a buff. Make it kill Imps and Chaingunners more consistently in one hit, Revs should also die more consistently in 4 shots.

>>9863174
>>9863180
Here we go again!
Although I agree, we just need a proponent for continuous now to get shitshow started.

>>9863174
Weapon progression isn't happy with 2 in general with most fights being easy enough to where you can just use the SSG and getting a BFG as soon as Trick and Traps.
>>9863186
>Hot take, the pump action needs a buff.
Yeah.

>>9863149
With the doom 1 arsenal the onus is on the mapper to provide enough rockets and plasma for the big demons, the existence of the SSG incentivizes tedious maps that expect you to SSG clouds of 20 cacos one by one with a straight face

>>9863086
>(Is there a manual for the VR resources that I'm missing?)
No manual for VR, but the Progs Dump 3 manual is extremely helpful since most of its features are integrated into the mod. I try to make the FGD fairly detailed though.
That error message is a bit odd, but I'll investigate.
Are you using the latest progs.dat?

>>9863186
in all my wads i only ever place shotguns in dm maps, and also it fires 8 bullets instead of 7 for more consistent kills

>>9862628
Gorsh, imagine a hot busty girl made in modern tech toting shotgun / rocket launcher in classic gameplay style.

>>9863187
I’d love to make continuous play Megawad, but I think you’d have go through maps that deliberately choke out ammo types and give just a little more than enough ammo for each map.

>>9863204
>Are you using the latest progs.dat?
Ahh, no, the one I have is from the 15th. I'll grab the latest ver. and see if that helps anything. Thanks again!

>>9863186
Make it kill Chaingunners in one shot snd that'd make me happy

>>9862791
I have a gif at least.

>>9862628
>mdl transparency

>>9863279
Such a sick model. Perfect amount of detail. Nice silhouette. Takes from established aesthetic notions and stereotypes but still looks like himself in his own context.

>>9863248
Just do the Dakka thing and reset ammo values to some default at the start of each map.

>>9863248
Something like Wrath, which makes maps harder if you play continuous, would be cool.

>>9863295
I like how when he dies his skull flies off and he collapses into just a robe on the floor. So there may be nothing to him but the skull and hands.

>>9863296
>just do some shitty port-specific hacks so that normal people who use good ports will never play your maps
Yeah definitely do that.

cummplay the new dnf2001 update with multiplayer you fuck'n dorks

>>9863296
I think his point was more like balancing the entire ammo economy throughout the whole wad. Think like one long-ass level with number of points you can't backtrack to.

>>9863296
That would feel like a cheap way to do continuous imo. Part of the fun is in the design challenge.

>>9863302
Wrath as in Aeon of Ruin? I haven’t played it yet.

>>9863279

>>9863307
>port-specific hacks
because ACS is limited to one port, and because mappers clearly have no idea what weapons were on the maps that came before to do it with death exits

>>9863307
vanillafag cope

The enemy roster of quake is severely limited compared to doom 2.

>>9863360
no shit sherlock

>>9863360
dont worry fan mods took care of th-

>ogre with armor
>ogre with rocket launcher
>ogre with two chainsaws
>ogre with robot legs and a nailgun

oh nevermind.

>>9862371
Yeah, he's right. lol
>>9862393
>>9862401
>>9862405
>knock out a sequel in under a year.
I always found it kind of fascinating how many older games got a sequel a year later, but then it took much longer for a third game to come out.
>>9862835
NTA, but someone here must know this type of thing.
>>9863279
Now let's see him teleport... I believe it's the one with Shadow Wizard?

>>9863371
>NTA, but someone here must know this type of thing
Turns out I'm breaking it in some fashion by deleting something. Was trying to clean it out a bit and reduce the size, but instead I borked it.
I did add some missing sounds so it doesn't pop up "missing sounds rexpl3.wav" every thing you fire a rocket. So I know I can edit it and still have it work. I just have to isolate what is required to stay in the wad.

>>9863249
>>9863204
Okay, I grabbed a whole fresh version of ../vr/ from the Mega.nz folder, and tried it again.
The default attack is still borked, but the Lightning and Lava Ball attacks work. I also tried manually setting the Hell Knight style to "0" rather than leaving it default, but it still broke (as expected.)
Same error as before.

>>9863360
>>9863369
what additions is quake's roster genuinely missing?

>>9863417
An enemy type that spawns smaller enemies.
An enemy type that revives (non-gibbed) enemies.

These should also be female, because I say so.

>>9863326
>Wrath as in Aeon of Ruin?
Yeah. You can choose the order you complete levels in, and each one has changes for if you play it first or play it after getting some weapons.

>>9863391
seems to be either when I delete the music, or when I reduce the pak size too far (idunno)

It's a vague quality on what's fun to fight and what's not but Ogres' bouncing grenades denying area and restricting movement is somewhat unfun because moving is fun. Them being a very pervasive staple bogs things down overall.

>>9863417
an enemy that really shakes up a combat encounter. (like the archvile)
an enemy like that would really elevate the roster and no enemy really does that yet.

>>9863467
They create impending explosions you don't want to be near, encouraging movement. Is there a specific example in a level you can point to show what you mean?
>>9863417
I think being able to use them all helps a lot. Romero seemed all about "theming" and didn't want grunts and enforcers passed the entryway portal levels.

>>9863417
I already made a thread talking about this on Doomworld (kinda).


https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135230-dusk-is-overrated/

Do you think arch-vile variant with no resurrection a worthwhile addition to the monster roster or is lame?

>>9863514
I like how the Archville’s los more consistently denies space than other enemies used as snipers. So that could be fine as an addition.

>>9863518
Perhaps an arch-vile turret that may or may not be immune to damage would be more useful than another ambulatory vile.

>>9863514
Lone viles are put in closets all the time
Vile with no res can be done through map placement so it's not really needed

>>9863514
ive been working on a singleplayer wad that uses doom 1 and ive been re-adding doom 2 monsters with edits, ive been considering splitting the arch-viles abilities into different monsters. just need to make sprites for each

>>9863520
I could picture using a running non-rez vile amidst a horde of imps. It’d put pressure on to kill the imps because they body block access to eliminating dangerous los enemy.

The lack of rez makes the ville more aggressive in taking space while also being less of a frustrating ammo sink.

I love the base archie still but its an interesting idea.

The best fps ever made all made in like 9-15 months from scratch on toasters with 4megs of ram

While modern retro "themed" fps are 4+ years M.I.A in early access with unlimited modern tech and limitless industry standard commercial game engines. Literally makes me seethe.

>>9863505
>They create impending explosions you don't want to be near, encouraging movement.
It does! But also the whole dynamic of being on the move, direct grenade lands behind you, now you are unable to double back where you just were. They encourage but also deny movement. There's a time and space for area denial and that kind of pressuring but boy do ogres take a lot of time and space for that.
Explosions themselves demand a lot more attention in case of splash damage. In Doom this is reserved for the boss enemy. It's a bit exhausting and tedious for every goon to demand that from you.

Just don't like 'em, simple as.

I'll say that finding a grenade jump angle off them on the fly is cool though.

>>9863529
The idea is that it could be ambulatory and roam without resurrecting anyone.

hey has anyone made a midi of "march of the pigs" by nine inch nails? need it for a doom wad

>>9863086
>>9862870
Different mapper here, gonna test this myself because I'm pretty sure this hasn't happened to me. Running vkQuake and latest progs.dats

>>9863579
>There's a time and space for area denial and that kind of pressuring but boy do ogres take a lot of time and space for that.
Are you fighting every single one in a hallway or something, with your back nearly to the wall? This is more what it's like when it's not a meme webm. You can move around much more easily in Quake, don't play it like Doom. Again, is there a specific example you can point to? I'll post it.

>>9863606
God I love Quake.

Serious Business Saturday happening in about 20 minutes from now (5pm us central). We'll be playing through a "backport" of the revolutions map "Bright Island" in TSE today (just in case you didn't know, revolutions is not the best port). It's a pretty long mapset so we probably won't get through the whole thing today. You can grab it early here: https://dreamycecil.itch.io/bright-island

>>9863612
Man I advocate for the guy behind Revolution since he did a LOT of good mod work for Serious Sam 3 and Fusion, but Bright Island kind of fucking sucks. I'm still on the third level as of a year ago because I kind of lost interest. He's just not that good at encounter design.

>>9863621
>He's just not that good at encounter design.
I just want to add, which is fucking ODD because how do you fuck up Serious Sam encounter design. The enemy roster is perfect.

>>9863621
We'll just have to suffer through it together :)

>>9863612
>Bright Island
I frequently get this one mixed up with the Dark Island campaign, which is also somewhat official
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eWiN1cfKkTQ

>>9863451
Got it. I have librequake clipped down from 300mb to ~30 (the release on the GitHub has a bunch of working files in it and such). Just need to add a few missing wavs and some music and it'll be complete-enough-for-deathmatch. Legal to use and such... So I can host maps other than the stock shareware ep.
Right now it's hosting some dm maps, but not set up for rotation...
Anywhose, should have it good by tonight.

>>9863652
yeah we don't talk about that map...

>>9863605
Violent Rumble 2 latest progs, vkQuake, I don't crash when Hell Knight uses his default ranged attack.

>>9863414
>>9863674
Looks like it's specific to Quakespasm. Not too sure what's going on though.

>>9863679
I won't mince words anon you're better off with Ironwail or vkQuake. VRanon himself uses Ironwail.

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>>9863683
I actually started playing Violent Rumble with Ironwail, so I didn't notice the issue at first.
I switched to QuakeSpasm since I was following dumptruck_ds's tutorials, and I just haven't bothered changing my testing source port.

>>9863685
DIRTBAG

>>9863592
Theres one on an old Dwango Wad but it kinda sucks.

>>9863612
It's serious. And it's business. It's time for some Serious Business Saturday! For today's session we'll be playing through a mapset called Bright Island, which originally released with the Revolutions port but was "backported" to TSE. You can grab it here: https://dreamycecil.itch.io/bright-island

>IP (join via specify server): 45.79.57.115
>Highly recommended to install the classics patch: https://dreamycecil.itch.io/sam-exe-patch if you haven't already. Adds a bunch of nice features like better resolution support and hud scaling. Make sure you grab the most recent TSE1.07 patch and after installing launch the game with "SeriousSam_Custom.exe"
>Go into the Scripts\NetSettings folder inside your main TSE directory and open up the DSLCable.ini file. Change "cli_iMaxBPS" to 1000000. Then when connecting to the server MAKE SURE YOU SELECT DSL/CABLE CONNECTION.
>Upon loading into the main menu, type: "/cli_iMaxPredictionSteps=4" (no quotes) into the console. You only have to do this once. If you encounter any problems with this setting then try changing it to a higher number up to around 10.

>>9863612
How do I join this? Or are you making another big post? I'll show up.

>>9863592
Here you go, anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/1h4vq6.zip

>>9863698
yo this fuckin rocks
thanks man

If the i486 has 1.2–1.6 million transistors, how much vacuum tube computer will it take to play Doom?

>>9863695
Joining in 15ish minutes.

>>9863679
>>9863683
>>9863086
Just put up a new progs.dat that seems to fix the issue.
I renamed the mod builtin function and replaced it with a QuakeC implementation from AD. I guess it has something to do with CSQC but I have absolutely no idea why it's necessary.

Hunting for midis reminded me, is there a more 'proper' expanded rendition of Sweet Little Dead Bunny from Doom 2 without the silly flute bit.

>>9862521
I'm *slowly* making progress on this map, like every time I'm just making shit up as I go.

>>9863086
>>9863679
Wasn't VR supposed to go with Quakespasm Spiked instead of regular Quakespasm?
>>9863687
>I switched to QuakeSpasm since I was following dumptruck_ds's tutorials, and I just haven't bothered changing my testing source port.
You can just add Ironwail to the list of engines and test with both.
Is there any reason to test with QS though? Other than the fact not every PC can run Ironwail, I mean.

>>9863467
Huh? If anything i find they are one of the most fun enemies, because they force you to dodge (unless you find a spot where their arc cant reach you), and not just strafe enemy like normal enemies, but actually react dynamically to where the grenade will bounce and land.

>>9863847
>Wasn't VR supposed to go with Quakespasm Spiked instead of regular Quakespasm?
QSS was more ideal due to CSQC support, but I tried to keep everything playable with regular Quakespasm. It's less of a concern now with vkQuake and Ironwail being supercharged over the past year or so.

>>9863475
>an enemy that really shakes up a combat encounter. (like the archvile)
The shambler comes close.
Also the vore. Theyre closer in practice to an archvile than a revenant because they have so much health, you have to really focus on them for an extended period of time to remove the threat of their super-homing missile.

>>9863859
closer than nothing, but not over the edge IMO.

>>9863783
Wait, it's from Doom 1 ending scene of course. I'm being silly. Anyways, I've looked through many remixes but they all incorporate the flute bit. I wish there was a serious rock take on it, I dig the riff and synth.

>>9863859
Vores doesn't shake up combat, it completely fucking ruins it. Every time you see these things you stop in your tracks and you either snipe them or find the path of least resistance to kill them as quickly as possible.

Shamblers are sponges that take too many hits and will always eat up all your nailgun ammo until you tediously finish them with shotgun / rockets. They're not fun to kill, especially since their death animation is so lame, considering how iconic their look is...

>>9863880
>all your nailgun ammo
Shamblers have 600 hp, super nail gun does 18 damage a hit, so that's like 33 to 35 times you have to hit him right? That's 66 to 70 nails, so not even half of the max. And the super nail gun goes through that like candy, so it's about 5 or 6 seconds to kill him with it.
He feels spongy with that explosive resistance. It weirds me out that he has resistance to explosives but not to lightning, even though he shoots lightning.

>>9863695
Did you go down?

>>9863908
No, we've been up ever since it started. Sorry to say but we're going to be ending soon once we're done with the current level.

>>9863934
What the fuck I couldn't join in at all dammit. Oh well.

>>9863939
You are using The Second Encounter right?

how does one get into making custom single player maps for blood?
which source ports/map editors are best?

>>9863941
TSE, dreamycecil patch, followed all instructions. Inputting the IP did not allow me to join. In fact it said only one player was in the server.

>>9863947
>>9863941
What's the port?

>>9863953
It should be the default port, you don't have to change it iirc.

>>9863417
I've been writing down random ideas for a while now, here are some i've had for new Quake monsters:
>a ray-like creature with large spikes at the front of its body it strikes with, essentially an aquatic fiend. Can also sting with its tail(s?) when stationary in melee range
>a crocodile-like beast that is fast on water but slow on land, deadly bite attack
>the Troll, an Ogre-like bruiser who quickly tosses hatchets on an arc
>the werewolf, a humanoid enemy that changes into a strong beast form when damaged enough
>the Ringwraith, a ghostly robed knight that can only be damaged by lightning or by a player wearing the Ring of Shadows. Also has a different appearance when viewed by a player wearing the RoS, and drops a RoS on death. Might be a miniboss
>Avatar of Tsathoggua, boss enemy that keeps spawning spawns from its protoplasmic ooze and lashes out with its tendrils that form and disappear spontaneously
Overall these are more ideas of things I think would be cool to see than proper game design niche-filling, but maybe these can be useful too.
>>9863879
>remember Nyarlathotep
The Black Pharaoh could make for a neat boss too...

>>9863695
And that's it for this week, we'll continue next time. Big thanks to everyone who joined!

hey guys, does anyone have a remake of the old arachnotron with the brain colored more like the spider mastermind?

>>9863417
A hell knight equivalent. Most mods of Quake already have this.

>>9862760
It is. I've always liked how that chunky blaster looks, it's just awful to use. So I've tried to fix that with my solar pistols.

>>9863972
But why? Is it that crucial a difference?

>>9863982
yeah i think the weird brownish-grey color it uses is kinda ugly

>>9862862
The Quake mod named Slayer's Testaments added a Cyber Cacodemon, which looks like that

>>9863972
There's a bunch that do a chaingun arachnotron that looks the way you want but fucked if I can remember which has them.

Might be something on Realm667.

>>9863985
It serves a purpose to distinguish from momma brain. Not because you'd actually mistake one for the other but just for visual cohesion and diversity's sakes so they look like their own things.

Actually nevermind, fuck momma brain, fuck maps that feature her so who cares if they look the same.

Xash3D and HL1 steam have zero multiplayer compatibility right?

>>9864009
thing is the big momma isnt even used in this wad, the final boss is a cyberdemon

>>9864014
HL1 steam's multiplayer works out the box, at least last time I tried (about early 2020.) Never bothered with Xash3D

>>9864009
If you can't differentiate by size and sound then you've some problems.

>>9864026
Agree, Baron of Hell should be just a larger imp sprite. You smartass.

Xash3D is cool and I'm considering hosting multiplayer with that. I was trying to get some regular HL1 multiplayer hosting but life got in the way HARD in the last two months and I haven't been able to host. I was using a bootleg pirated HL1 and got a lot of pushback on /v/ and some here. I was considering Xash3D since it has far less stigma and it would let me host TFC and Deathmatch Classic, but I had some issues with mouse input when I hosted from my VPS that I don't remember. I'll see what happens. Oh wait but Xash doesn't have AMX capability I don't think. Fuck.

>>9864048
Whoops meant to quote >>9864021

>>9864048
Oh, you're still around. I never joined myself but I always think it's cool to get anon games going. If you want to host here again, Sundays and Fridays don't have Zandy servers anymore.

>>9864061
Hah I work weekends. I'm only here this weekend since I hurt my back. I'll try to host some HLDM tonight.

>>9864054
good luck

>>9864029
You know what? You're absolutely fucking correct, lets fix this shit.

>>9864141
That's pretty based

>>9864141
This is why Universal Entropy is the best Doom mod.

>>9864141

>>9864141
Imp Invasion: all enemies are reskinned to look like imps

>>9864180
Bitches don't know bout my impsouls.

>>9864202
Oops! All Imps!

>the leader of the BoBs is called Robert

>>9864202
>>9864202
Zombie imp
Imp Sergeant
Imp Chaingunner
Imp
Impy Demon
Spectrimp
Lost Imp
Imp Elemental
Cacoimp
Imcubus
Revenimp
Imp Knight
Baron of Imps
Arch-Imp
Impnotron
Cyberimp
Imp Mastemind
The Icon of Imp actually an imp on a pike
Impenstein SS
Commander Kimp (hanged)

What happened to this link?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxsjLLNO6YXneXBoVE1yZmxwQ00
It had Xash3D along with HL1, Opposing Force, Blueshift, TFC, Deathmatch Classic, and Ricochet.

I'm done with the first hub, I have a few cirticisms:

>Combat is very punishing for Paladin bro, being mostly a melee character.
>Lots of misaligned brick textures :(
>Paladin only swings his sword one way.

>>9863417
It just occurred to me that Quake has no exploding barrel equivalent outside of techbase levels. Maybe a wooden barrel of fuel for the ogres' chainsaws?

>>9864327
how about an exploding barrel that lets out 5 spawns when you blow it up.

>>9864294
>I had a backup buried deep within my PC
Yay past me.

>>9864274
I always appreciated Bungie's sense of humor in their old games
>Warning: Hitchhikers May Be Escaping Convicts

>>9864331
>>9864363
I'll never understand why people use fake TV scanlines on stuff like PC Doom,

It's like using these mods and thinking it's a realistic, retro experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbtfoa_yu-A

What if MAP54: Redemption Denied was in the PC version of Doom II instead of MAP30: Icon of Sin?

>>9864398
anything is better than the icon of sin.

>>9864304
You get a ranged weapon at the beginning of the next hub which helps a lot.
Use your inventory though. The tome gives the sword a ranged attack. If you save the tomes just for boss fights you'll end up with more than you can even carry by the end of the game.

>>9864335
How about fractal spawns that spawn in a pair of fractal spawns 1/2 their own size when killed

>>9864434
ONLY TRUE WARRIORS STRIVE FOR: GUN

Perfect Dark has been decompiled for over six months. Why isn't there a sourceport yet?

>>9863879
>pillowblaster dimensions
>hdoom power
>death supply
>experience basically fucked
>favorite retarded especially monsters
>techbase doomguy
>impaled skyboxes
>remember Nyarlathotep

Nyarlathotep is for bully.

>>9864457
Make it yourself.

>>9864457
Be the change you want to see!

>>9864141
The imps have begun lifting.

>>9864457
It technically hasn't hit 100% yet which is most likely why. https://ryandwyer.gitlab.io/pdstatus/

>>9864462
>powerslave textures
What map?

How come there was never an official arcade port of Doom?

>>9864474
E3M9 of Strange Aeons.

>>9864465
cacobros... we got this

>>9864481
You mean around the time it was released? Maybe because it's too easy a game for a business model that relies on players putting in quarters when they lose.

>>9864474
Thats Chasm The Rift textures

>>9864481
I always did wonder how you'd balance that. I don't think Knee Deep In The Dead would make for a good set of arcade levels. You'd need to bring back the lives system from Wolf3D, add a scoring system...

>>9864510
I'd probably do something like this, has score and lives stuff going for it, only thing it could do with is some sort of time element to further encourage going fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5QYCAbjES0

>>9864538
Maybe you could have the player's health on a timer, like Gauntlet. It would encourage you to push forward and stimpacks. Have it start at 150 to be a bit fair (or have it adjustable by the theoretical arcade operator).

>>9864548
I guess it's either that or doing a Spelunky with a unkillable enemy that spawns and chases you after a set time.

Something like this might work too but it doesn't feel very arcadey.
https://jp.itch.io/minute-mod-doom

>>9864472
Thanks for answering my question. Looks like we're really close though.

>>9864472
>It technically hasn't hit 100%
It actually has been decompiled completely.

>All versions of the game are fully decompiled but a small handful of functions are not yet byte-matching even though they are functionally the same. The status page doesn't show these as 100% because it counts matching functions only.

There are videos of various decompiled versions of the game, like an optimized version for the original hardware that removes piracy checks and other memory-allocation improvements.

>>9864485
It could have worked if you had to put in a credit for each episode and paid if you died.

>>9863417
Proper turret enemy like arachnotron, long range threats in general.

>>9864510
Probably some fuckery on a scale like Vs. SMB where all the levels are heavily edited to throw experienced players off, and maybe some pickups too. I could easily see health being a lot more anal in scarcity.

>>9864629
I was going to bring up Vs. SMB, actually. You could also mix in harder levels from other iwads like Vs. SMB using levels from SMB2.

How useful was Tricks of the Doom Programming Gurus?

>>9864465
They must have whispered to themselves "grow, grow, grow" while meditating. Can't forget your height exercises.

>>9864457
this is why coding should be taught at schools

Are there any basic skin mods that just change doomguy into a cute girl, but keep the vanilla game the same or something? (or use as a replacement for doomguy in other mods? Kinda like how srb2 works where characters are independent of the level packs and etc, couldn't really see it categorized like that with regular doom)

yeesh

I dare you to port Doom to Virtual Boy, anon.

>>9864720
>skins
Nothing to skin in Doom, at best you'll probably just find something like D-Radys or that Lt Typhon mod.

still can't believe they deadass put an entire mall in Doom for a DBP map

>>9864761
There's been a few mall maps over the years, I think Verse Hopper had one.

Despite the shit it gets, I really thoroughly enjoyed quake 2, and now I headcanon that the grunts and enforcers at the slipgate tech levels are strogg

>>9864756
Unfortunate. Anything with the monsters then I guess? (besides Hdoom, I'd just like a reskinned vanilla doom experience, unsure if you can even get that in hdoom)

By the by, for Quake, if I wanted to play co-op, is it still recommended to play ezquake, especially if I have no plans to play deathmatch?

Enjoying the second hub way more than the first one.

Now that I have most weapons the game is picking up and the bricks are properly aligned now. I have to say the map quality seems night and day compared to the first hub.

>>9864804
Quake Remastered has the easiest co-op now.

>>9864807
Dont get your hopes too high brickanon, from what i remember the next hub has the most misaligned textures in the whole game.

>>9864796
HDoom is mostly just asset replacing stuff, also you're still playing Doomguy.

IT'S TIME FOR SOME LATE NIGHT DMING

Thrown the baby out with the bathwater, Steam HL1 is in play here. No need for all that bootleg stuff. Xash3D maybe another time when I've built up enough trust in people for TFC and other shenanigans.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/zqwdjleuk3nh6s9xpkx77/h?dl=0&rlkey=luxxg2kjvyayl1sf5hj65npt4

^300+ custom maps. Extract valve_downloads to your steamapps/common/Half-Life directory

I'll be around for an hour or more depending on how many show up. Rockthevote is in, or should be, as should votemapping in general.

IP: 162.248.93.194:27015
PW: rage

>>9864796
Stylish Hell replaces the demons with silly girl versions that are less /a/ and more /co/

>>9864857
>/v/ thread immediately deleted
Wtf jannies

>>9864864
Oh hay that's the one somebody did to go with La Tailor Girl, which is also a fucking awesome mod.

>>9864720
So you just want to have a custom hud with a different face? Sure, that can be done.

>>9864891
They probably really want hud/face/rotationals/redone hands/sounds, which isn't even that hard but it's usually the sort of shit you'd find in some random Zandronum pack or something whereas these days if somebody's going to that effort they'll probably turn it into even a basic gameplay mod.

Not sure about "cute", but there's a Crash weaponset in a mod called Scalliano's Super Shuffle. There's a bunch of mandatory other stuff to load that mod, though. Divorced from the rest of the mod, the set could be fairly vanilla, but I wouldn't know how to do that. And I think it'd need a mugshot.

>>9863943
http://cruo.bloodgame.ru/xmapedit/

Manual covers most of it, start by editing some of the original levels then attempt to make your own.

>>9864857
2/32

>>9864879
The Jannies have been on a rampage. Half the posts I see in /co/ and /tg/ are getting deleted for some weird reason.

>>9864857
3/32

>>9864720
Unfortunately(?) these add gameplay, but Space Amazon and Scalliano's game thing. The former has different levels of qt Doomgal and the latter iirc has one and that isn't counting the UAC scientist chick

Shame AEOD removed classes since you could be a few in 5.29. Some were naked because they were taken from the Sirens mod

>>9862628
>>9862654
You'd be surprised, I got banned for three days in /tg/ for posting cropped fan porn

At the risk of bringing drama here, is there anything that might scratch the same itch Codename Demolitionist had? Weird weapons, OP shotguns, maybe some 3D and light ammo management? I've already played that one weird Cyber-Mage wad, DoomRLA, and Doom Champions

>>9865008
Pillowblaster mods are your next best bet.

I don't much care for doom. I wish there was a doom general and an "all other retro fps" general separate.

>>9863612
> Revolution Is not the best Port
I've read somewhere that it Is not suitable for multiplayer
should be fine for single, right?

i like SS:CR It for the seamless TSE+TFE campaign and the UI consistency

but then again the "classica superpatch" project let me integrate TFE contenta into TSE 1.07 installa, so...

help me choose, plz

>>9864728
That went through his.... Chest right....


Right?

>>9865008
Pandemonia, High Noon Drifter, Legendoom, Trailblazer, Combined_Arms, maybe Treasure Tech, Dakka, Painslayer.

None are an absolute fit, for better or worse they were the only one really doing Unreal/UT style mods.

>>9865008
>>9865028
Oh yeah, Doom Incarnate, mostly based off the recent Wolfenstein games (and Bloodrayne for some reason), has some weirdass guns and some pretty OP shotguns.

>>9864857
Haruhi dl the maps from the dropbox so you don't need to wait on the vps' terrible upload speed.

>>9865034
>and Bloodrayne for some reason

In the first BloodRayne, you're fighting Nazis in the 1940s.

>>9864857
Last round, 15 minutes to get in.

>>9863391
>>9863451
>>9863653
Awesome! Glad it worked out at the end.
>Right now it's hosting some dm maps, but not set up for rotation...
What maps, to be specific? Just some random popular ones from back in a day?
>>9863417
That's a good question. The kind that will keep you up at night.
>>9863505
That ending. lol
>>9864048
>it would let me host TFC and Deathmatch Classic
And no Ricochet? Disgusting.
>>9864304
>>Paladin only swings his sword one way.
Pretty sure he does swing in other way as well... Maybe with Tome of Power.
>>9864786
>now I headcanon that the grunts and enforcers at the slipgate tech levels are strogg
They might as well be proto Stroggs in current canon at this point.
>>9864804
Seconding >>9864808. Re-release not only lets you keep it going, but also has bots support that might even be implied to co-op.

>>9862047
Just beat Ashes 2063. Going "sorta open world" for Afterglow was a mistake and level design is all over the place, Flooded District, Biodome and Anomaly 210 are fantastic, but then you have all the unmemorable city maps in the first part.
And I can't forgive episode 2 for making mutants the main enemies, shooting vultures was all sorts of fun, now it's constant "I EAT HIZ FLESH" and tanky mutant shotgunners.

>>9864857
Closed, thanks for joining. I nominate pic related as next OP image.
>>9865083
>And no Ricochet? Disgusting.
Ricochet is definitely on the table, just after more people begin to join.

>>9865012
I kinda wish there were more fan addons of Guncaster.

>>9865028
Forgot about Treasure Tech and been meaning to check out the last two. C_A is on my list and I honestly kinda wish HND had more guns. I should play TB again.
>>9865034
Yep, it's a blast. I was playing it with the "modernized" port of Wolf3d too

>>9865120
Combined_Arms isn't that insane in terms of power scaling, but I sure as hell make it a point to make some unorthodox weapons.

>>9864558
You mean like this? The same guy made the mod.
https://jp.itch.io/green-demon-doom

>>9863565
It’s almost like working with a studio produces better results than being a solo indie or hobbyist

>>9865149

>>9865194
>spb attack in doom

>>9865204
Weren't studios from that time scarcely bigger than your average modern day indie team?

>>9865227
Trailer like halfway done. Getting to the really good part soon, Vegas sucks. I'm tired. But I'm SO fucking close.

>>9864994
>That Amazing Space Amazon

I had never heard of this. Basically a decade old. There are some cool mugshots.

>>9865105
>Ricochet is definitely on the table, just after more people begin to join.
Good point. Anons have to earn this privilege.

What the fuck, there are Ion Fury assets in this.

>>9863025
>>9863149
Reminds me of Halo. The weapon sandbox for every Halo including CE always revolved around a precision weapon. For CE it was the pistol, then it became the BR, then the DMR, then it became an assortment of precision weapons. This pretty much even applied to the campaigns to.

>>9863514
>>9863518
Did anyone made a "sniper zombie" kind of enemy yet by repurposing the AV's "hide from my LoS within next 2,5 seconds or else you're toast" attack logic?

How does /vr/ Doom community feel about Doom 3? I am going to assume its not liked very much. I thought it was an okay average game that could have been better.

>>9865320
It's okay. Shotgun has crap spread and there's too much fucking ammo. I like the SMG, and the chainsaw is a monster.
Still technically impressive to this day

>>9863417
>>9863440
An enemy that can only be damaged/killed by explosives or Quad-enchanted weaponry to act as a miniboss/obstacle to bypass untill you got the needed gear to get rid of it (or just lure it into a conviniently placed instakill trap, kinda like most of the Chasm bossfights were laid-out)

>>9865083
>>9864786
Daily reminder that Grunts are explicitly programmed to coom whenever they manage to kill the player

>>9863967

>a ray-like creature with large spikes at the front of its body it strikes with, essentially an aquatic fiend. Can also sting with its tail(s?) when stationary in melee range
Qtest Serpent?

>>9863967
>>the Ringwraith, a ghostly robed knight that can only be damaged by lightning or by a player wearing the Ring of Shadows. Also has a different appearance when viewed by a player wearing the RoS, and drops a RoS on death. Might be a miniboss
This fellow right here, you might know him as Shal'rath \ Nemesant \ Troglodyte \ Wizard depending on which mod he appears in

>>9862062
Banned or he Ded?

Let's play some Quake 2 you fucking niggers

>>9864960
Thanks, which source port should I use?
Fresh Supply? BloodGDX? NBlood? Raze? NotBlood?

Oh, speaking of mods where you play as a girl and are kinda vanilla, Skelegant released one recently called Pvt. Stone. I tried it for a bit and it's pretty solid.

>>9865356
Yeah, I like Pvt. Stone. The sword is especially good looking.

>>9864752
that looks like perfect dark promo

>>9864981
they need more space for their capeshit, critical role and wow retoilet shilling.

>>9865337
these guys served as base for the wraiths in DoE

>>9865342
it got too used with the "fix" i did for the maidens's faces.
But then i blame the toy and the art for it.

>>9865358
The toggleable berserk is also pretty neat. And I appreciate that the gloves are different colored.

>>9865342
I take it back. Q2 multiplayer might be the worst mp I've ever played.

Spawn points get camped and you die 3 times in 2 seconds. People just firing rockets at spawn pads. How did this garbage ever become popular?

>>9865375
Every single game is this since doom's inception.

>>9865376
Every mp game? Umm... No? Most games don't literally spawn you in the middle of a fire fight with a pistol so you can get rocket spawn camped.

>>9864457
The N64 community is incapable of making a good PC port. SM64 fell victim to being only used for HD models and baby's first mods that look awful as shit. And OOT's PC port is heavily inaccurate due to being based off the debug build, and has been neglected for randomizer logic (No surprise given the ties between terminally addicted Discord users and randomizers)

>>9865375
Quake 2 sucks because weapon switching takes an eternity and the railgun does 100 damage.

>here comes the anti quake 2 bashing squad
that's it, i'll be back later.
have fun with the trolls.

>>9865375
It got popular with people who are the ones killing people instantly in under 2 seconds and get free kills firing rockets at spawn pads, using rocket jumping to fly across the map while using their encycolpediac knowledge of each map to do mario kart speed circuits across the map grabbing uber powerups the moment they reappear keeping them at 200/200 health armor at all times while denying enemies any chance of obtaining those potential equalizing items

>>9865402
Sounds like zero fun cringe shit and why the genre is dead

>>9865402
That is fun. Sounds like you're mad cuz bad.

>>9865398
Don't be so sensitive dude it's just video games. And because some people don't like what you like doesn't make them trolls. Like how some people really despise the spawns from Quake but I think they're a great enemy.

>>9865402
>>9865403
Wrong. It's based, you're both queers. You are now obligated to watch this video to cure your gayness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

>>9865375
>jump into MP servers on an old game with only the most autismal hard core remaining on the servers
>get bodied immediately
Why were you expecting anything different? You'll have the same experience on anything old unless you're specifically joining a noob server/playing with friends.

>How did this garbage ever become popular?
When the game was new, nobody had total comprehension of the maps.

>>9865331
Something like that, yeah, but about as large as the fiend. Something that makes the player want to get out of the water as quickly as possible.
>>9865337
Don't know of any mods that include it, can you name a few?
I was thinking of the Weathertop scene, where the Nazgûl corner Frodo. An imposing enemy that chases the player relentlessly once active and can't be killed by normal means, like >>9865328 suggests. I'll admit I'm focusing much more on the cool factor of the thing's presence than the gameplay implications, though.
https://youtu.be/Sk47qO8rW4Y?t=55

>>9864720
For Doom? Yeah, there are tons of skin mods, usually made for Zandronum since that the online multi sourceport but most of them work fine if you want to play SP.

why the fuck does every quake custom map have to use ugly ass hi res textures
they look fucking awful

>>9865419
I never found them out of place myself. AD Tears, or Brutalist Jam, etc. I think high fidelity stuff looks right at home on the Quake engine, but there's plenty of regular Quake custom maps anon. Just gotta find them.

>>9865417
Drake has it.

>>9865405
>>9865408
NO shit it's fun, and no shit I'm bad, but I dont exactly care about the epeen from getting so autistically good at the game that my reward is endlessly landing top spots on the scoreboard so much these days.

>>9865415
classic arena shooters are good shit for scratching that competetive itch because you get some good ass rewards for putting in the work and time to do so. But if you dont the chance to win is near zero. Its a different era from the modern team based trash and endless battle royale where RNG or team mates carry you to a win

>>9865427
You clearly do care about it because you're trying to put people down for being better than you rather than accepting it. You can't just take a loss, you have to come up with excuses and attack the other person for beating you.
Faggot.

>>9865425
Thanks mate.

>>9865415
Why defend spawn points literally in the middle of a fire fight as good design?

It's objectively garbage.

>>9865427
Nothing to do with epeen, really. It's more about the satisfaction from mastering the flow of movement, map control, and mind games. Do you know anything about fightan? Mind games are a massive part of those games in all levels of play, but especially high levels. Well, Quake 3 DM involves a great deal of mind gaming. When similarly skilled players face each other, the player who seems like he is reading the mind of his opponent is usually the victor. Just saying, there's more to this kind of game than learning the map and spawn camping. Seriously, watch that video and you will understand.

It used to be a popular sentiment on /v/ circa 2010 that arena shooters were the epitome of video game skill and mastery. I remember an image someone made comparing fighting games, ASSFAGGOTS, arena shoots and whatnot. It was pretty funny, but I'm a retard that lost all my shit in a hard drive crash ages ago.

>>9865431
Damn man, look at this guy, throwing little shitfits about this video game that got released in (checks google) 1997. Congrats on being the #1 top fragger in some bumfuck nowhere Euro country I guess.

Ad hominens aside watching high end FPS play is generally pretty cool, I just literally dont care so much these days. People nowdays still go apeshit over good movement tech and skill shots.

>>9865445

Oh of course, 1 on 1s are a totally different story than pub matches, things like knowing where the enemy is -> where they are likely to go next -> what you have access to now -> how you can gear up as quickly as possible are things that you can do in an instant and requires intimite knowledge of the game and the map. If you dont know the map layout its like you lost half the battle already.

>Wadarchive shut down
God fucking dammit. It had a rare version of Project Brutality 2.03 that I really enjoyed. He uploaded everything to archive.org but COMPLETELY unorganized goddamn what a faggot.

>>9865320
Okay by itself, nice at the time, fun with mods.
>>9865343
NotBlood hits a sweetspot of map compatibility, customization, as well as the option of playing purely vanilla.
>>9865424
Tears looks great, just sticks out like a pretty looking sore thumb compared to the rest of AD.
>>9865371
>pretty maiden face
Don’t like it, I appreciated the off-putting mouth.

>>9865279
>Vegas sucks.
Have you tried using other, similar programs?

>>9865476
Once I switch over to my new computer I'm gonna try Kdenlive or Shotcut as those are Linux friendly.
This'll most likely be the last video I make with Vegas.

>>9865461
Yeah, you're right. I admit there is a barrier of entry to arena shooters, contrasted to modern shooters like Apex and whatnot. But it's weird, why is Counter Strike and Dota popular with the younger generation? Both of those games have a high barrier of entry, yet they retain some of the largest playerbases on Steam and gather a huge viewer audience for tournaments. I really feel like arena shoots could've taken off if they were given the same effort and passion that Valve gave CS and Dota. Sad.

>>9865480
There's also DaVinci Resolve that seems to be able to do video editing too.

>>9865483
Yeah, though I hear tell you need a beefy rig to run that one, and my next computer is going to be modest by today's standards.
That and I don't need anything too fancy, hell the most advanced thing I've done for my videos is a typewriter effect on the text and some panning with easing.

>>9865486
How modest? 1060ti kind of modest?

>>9865481
Accessibility and marketing. Broadcasted tournaments, low cost / knowledge required to start playing, teamplay that gives a high incentive to find, add, and teach friends to play together.

Also the whole deflecting failure onto bad teammates versus needing to man up and accept the full blame of your own incompetence when you go 2-25 and quit the game forever in shame. Losing is a hard pill to swallow!

>>9865489
16gb ram, rx 570, and a AMD FX-8350 CPU. Modest by today's standards but a pretty goddamn big jump compared to my current hardware with pic related.

>>9865473
the face goes back to that and a bit gory in her pain state
it is those small details that breaths a bit of "life"

Plus i had to make beta maidens more distinct to the original since xatrix has also a unused texture which rogue calls for it along with some unknown maiden skins.
Maybe the carrier map had plans for unique maidens acting as bosses.

but thankfully seeing how rogue is ball breaking hard they didn't had time to code.

>>9865461
You're still trying to belittle people for making you lose at a video game.

>>9865313
I haven't played Batman Doom, but one of the enemies is described as such. Unfortunately, even MBF21 didn't think to add customizable vile attack.

>>9865495
>Modest
That's beyond modest, that's pure poverty PC outside of RAM. Bulldozer is not really much stronger than what you have. RX570 is, while stronger, can be replaced with a GPU that is more powerful with relative ease. You should be looking for 580 at the very least, if not straight up saving up for 6600. Also, I very highly recommend to go for AM4 CPU if possible, there are a ton of modern motherboards that support it and will continue to support it for quite awhile.
I seriously hope your new PC is actually super cheap, because paying something like 500$ for this is robbery.

>>9865507
So? This is 4chan not reddit, what were you expecting a pat on the back? Giving people shit is what people do here. I don't care if I suck at Quake. UT is better anyway.

>>9865510
It's beyond cheap. A friend is gifting me this machine for free. I'm broke as all fuck, so I'm happy to accept this. Not to mention it'll have enough horsepower to do what I want to do.
I'm a man of very few needs and wants, as long as I can play Doom, make mods, do art, emulate games, watch bullshit on youtube, and play EDF 5, 6, and Deep Rock with my buddies. Then I am happy.

>>9865524
based

>>9865524
At least you got it for free, which is very nice. But, man, I hope you eventually get fixed.

>>9865532
Maybe one day, but I'm in no rush, I don't see a need to get particularly strong hardware if I'm not going to make the most of it.

>>9865497
which by the way, i regret nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sEk88m8SMM

>>9864595
>There are videos of various decompiled versions of the game, like an optimized version for the original hardware that removes piracy checks and other memory-allocation improvements.
I know, I've seen them. But I figured since it doesn't actually say 100% that it's the most likely reason why no one has ported it yet. But if a port really is possible regardless then it's only a matter of time until one is released. In fact, I would honestly be surprised if someone wasn't working on one already but just hasn't said anything about it yet. PD running natively on PC would be kind of a big deal, especially when you consider the possibilities it would open up in terms of modding (already possible since it's decompiled, but a PC port wouldn't be held back by the N64's limitations), also the fact that it could be modded to support client/server online multiplayer.

>>9865587
>pretty face and metal diaper
Whatever floats your boat, Steed was a weirdo after all and he gave us some hot chicks. Just as long as you don’t do gross shit like shove upres textures down people’s throats while roaring “Carmack would approoooove”.

>>9865591
A rare pick my man. Otherwise known as Laveerre or Lavis, he's somewhat of an icon in Finnish underground/meme/internet rap music. That HEATH album was basically his first fray into rapping in English when he was like 22 and the product was.. so embarrassing he quit making music for some time afterwards.
Also for the thread related, he began making music as random skits and shitposts for his Quake friends.

He's one of those cases of artists that kept producing trash for such a long time that he eventually got kind of good at it. One of my favorite artists but unfortunately there's not much for the English-speaking audience as his strengths are is his wordplay and funny, sleazy lyrics.

sorry to request midis so much but has anyone made midis of "hey man nice shot" or "dose" or "under" by filter?

>>9865612
Maidens in 4 were good lookin since id and raven never fucked around with women, plus this makes it more distinct to the original pallete swap of the beta maidens since xatrix has 2 different maiden skins, one unused and the existing one.
Also i still hope that someone finds a beta internal cd of Q2 and drop at the archives with the original promo textures.

Also i may have exaggerated because she looks like borgfied Seven of Nine, and i made her face without even knowing it.
Also the pretty face is result of the fatality ai model with the original texture edit i did, all i did was working from there after the upscale

>>9865019
Correct, Revolutions has terrible netcode. I still recommend sticking with TFE+TSE (or TSE only with the classics superpatch like you said) just to avoid any other complications revolutions might bring.

>>9865419
I dont recall ever seeing textures that looked higher res than normal quake.

>>9865083
>What maps, to be specific? Just some random popular ones from back in a day?
Yeah, some I found from a list on the Internet. I actually didn't play much quake dm back in the day.
https://www.quaddicted.com/articles/10_classic_custom_quake_deathmatch_maps_that_scampie_likes
These ones.
Minus two.

Are there any good texture packs for quake?

>>9865650
QRP
Is old, handmade off the original packs, it isn't ugleh and it goes well with the lightmaps and remaster
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/quake-revitalization-project-archive

Why does Hexen II looks way, way better than Quake 2 and it's "improved and newer" engine?

>>9865679
Those look way too hi-res and not at all in the style of original quake.

>>9863579
>>9863606
>Again, is there a specific example you can point to?
Still nothing? That may be for the best, that talk was getting weird.
>>9865761
Well, at least he didn't spout blessings from Carmack while doing so.
Also those Q4 maidens got mentioned, I got to this point and it was hilarious. I did not realize what the marine had pointed out earlier were boobs, these cyborgs leave them exposed for some reason. It makes more sense than 2's at least, but this game keeps feeling more and more like a joke.

>>9865746
>Why does Hexen II looks way, way better than Quake 2
Decent art direction I would say. Specially with its superb 3D models which look like they were made by someone who gives a shit about their job, as opposed to Quake 2 where every enemy looks like a clay model smeared together by some toddler.

>>9865796
>these cyborgs leave them exposed for some reason.
Yeah, I thought that it was stupid too

>>9865419
Name literally 1 map from the past 5 years that uses more than 1 pixel per unit textures.

Is there a Quake 1 mod that backports Q4 stuff?
When's the MetaQuake mod?

>>9862049
Whatever anon wanted to make a better Violent Rumble pic for the news, is it done yet ?
Also, what happened to the sleep-themed resources made along 400 Minutes, did anyone made something with that ?

>>9865812
pick the ripped weapon models off Quake champions and work from there

>>9865812
There's Q2M for some Q2 weapons and Alkaline uses some Q2 assets. Haven't seen anyone do anything for 4 (most of it's ugly to me anyways), and someone did backport a Champions nailgun and post it on the moddb. Someone's also working on a Q1+2 mod for Quake 2 called The Return.
>When's the MetaQuake mod?
When you make it.

>>9862542

>>9865841
I still wish for a Q2 map using the cancelled 40k game assets.
But also i wish that .wal and .pcx limits was ditched from every source port as legacy content, so raw TGA/PNG/JPG/DDS or even .wad can be used.

>>9865329
Never forget.
>>9865394
And I thought everything was great there. Damn it.
>>9865647
>Yeah, some I found from a list on the Internet.
Neat.
>I actually didn't play much quake dm back in the day.
Me neither, for obvious reasons. All my experience is just having fun with bots in re-release. Mostly on The Edge.

>>9862542
I made a webm of this awhile ago but can't even remember what it's from, help me anon..
>>9865879
>I still wish for a Q2 map using the cancelled 40k game assets.
That older cancelled Dark Angels one? Coffee Achiever showed how well the style translates into Quake so have at it. Where'd he get his assets by the way?

Duke Nukem Forever Restoration Project - Duke It Out Trailer

https://youtu.be/H0l9Rhv-7DA

>>9865991
Do you often post here? Or for news reel only?

>>9865650
Not a texture pack but there's a coloured lighting addon that could make things prettier

>>9865328
Picrel bossfight was so dumb man. Had me regretting hard that I wasn't just playing actual Quake instead of quakeathome

>>9865418
grills not pixerlly enough, BFG3k remains inactive

>>9865937
new doom city?

>>9865972
I also posted the cancelled dos FPS game that was pretty much complete, which is also a dark angels game too.
i wish that someone at DBP could rip the sprites and make use of it, the assets and enemy sprites are good, and some are ready for use.
https://imgur.com/a/axm6ufv

mainly now with the ultrasmurfs game coming out soon

>>9864384
>get to the end of a failed timeline in Infinity, possibly the most oppressive FPS
>You're Wormfood, Dude

>lighting changes after wall explodes
Hey that's neat.
>>9862542
Oh shit wait, if that's from The Place That Hates from 500ml I'm going to kms for forgetting.
>>9866190
I was pretty set on what I was going to play today, guess I'll spend an hour or so on my first ever Marathon playthrough.

>>9864960
>>9865473
What makes a Blood single player map?
I see lots of individual youtube videos about mapedit/xmapedit but I can't find any videos/documentations on what makes a map.
Should I just replay Blood and other custom single player maps to see what makes a good map?
Any help would be appreciated, sorry for being retarded and needing to be spoon fed in advance.

>>9866218
It's good, make sure you get the XBLA HUD mods and turn up the framerate. If you're good at FPS games, play on Major Damage.

M1's level design can be pretty bad at times but it's worth toughing out for M2.

>>9866097
Doom Center, it's an old wad.

>>9866230
>What makes a Blood single player map?
Just add 30+ hitscanners to every map and you're set.

Imagine using vkquake haha

Any good wads to play Hellrider 0.9c in?

>>9866231
I have a run going already, I have to say I'm drawn to this ugly awesome original hud.
Current level is the one without oxygen so I'm sadly having to keep dying as I try to find an o2 station while getting pelted by all these mobs.

>>9866230
Designing around a central theme is a good idea. Most of episode one feature that such as the train station, the train and the carnival. It also helps the level flow have some sense of direction as you subconsciously design for that concept.
Start small, make a two room level to test out end triggers, enemy placement, texturing and the basics before you start sketching out your magnum opus.

>>9866230
Blood episode 1 is the most iconic because of the difficulty of going through 2 levels with only the flare gun and obviously coming first, but I think the room layouts and furniture plays a big part too. The benches in the funeral home, the dining car on the train, the payphone room in the back of the train station, they all naturally lend themselves to semi-realistic shootouts with shit for you to crouch behind

>>9866345
There's one in the central tower you'll have to keep going back to, G4 Sunbathing doesn't have many chargers. It's the only level in M1 that uses oxy though.

>>9865746
They backported some stuff like translucency from the Q2 engine, also they basically faked a bunch of physics in QuakeC so you can push stuff around and things take damage on impact
And theres a lot more decorative models and effects so it feels more immersive

>>9865083
>>9864808
Is remastered really the only good option? What's a good option that doesn't require to spend money?

>>9864891
>>9864898
Yea that's pretty much all I want, I tried a few out from what I saw but wasn't really a fan of gameplay changes, just want simple aesthetic changes.

>>9865418
What's a good place to find these?

How do you setup Zandronum to use Wadsmoosh doom complete? I already set it up for gzdoom I really don't feel like hunting down all the doom games again just for zandronum. Making my wadsmoosh the iwad works perfectly fine for gzdoom but zandronum just doesn't detect it for some reason?

>>9866510
Some are from the /vr/ skins pack and some aren't. When I get free time I'll throw up a skin wad later.

If you want you can google the sentinel's playground server site and search their wad database for vrskins, just throw the file in the /skins/ subdirectory in your zandronum install. Note that Zandronum uses some skin formats that aren't present in other ports like GZDoom.