/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9848213
Emulation is fair when the market for older games is inflated to high hell, like it is now. Same goes for consoles since the MiSTer exists now, only downside is getting a CRT, PVM, or other viable display to play anything before 2009 for a decent price

I don't care. Spend more time playing games and less talking about how you theoretically want to play games.

I honestly believe that emulators are soulless and there's a special feeling you get from playing it on real hardware. This may be me being biased, but I also feel I have an easier time beating games on hardware.
At the very least, you need to correct controller for console you're emulating to feel right.

My collection isn't that big, but its probably around a few thousand bucks just because some games are more rare. I wouldn't sell anything, but if there was a fire and all my shit burned up I wouldn't start collecting again. Emulation has gotten good enough. Maybe I'd get a MiSTer or some shit if that happened. The funny thing is a lot of my favorite games are arcade ports, so they're basically a crappy port trying to emulate the full arcade game to begin with, so unless you own your own arcade you're not getting the true experience!

>>9848213
To me they're two different hobbies.

I just care about the games. I don't care about owning actual physical hardware and copies.

If I had the money and space, maybe I'd buy a small collection of my favourite games and platforms. But I'd still probably rather spend the money on something I can't get for free without needing special hardware. If I had the money and space to waste on something like that, I'd probably go for a home studio instead or a cinema or a gym or something like that way before considering a gaming room.

>>9848248
It's just the controller.

That's literally it. I used to feel the same way until I bought my first USB adaptor. It's just the controller, and maybe an NTSC/CRT filter if that's your thing and you don't believe in framemeisters.

>>9848213
I prefer not having to have every one of my consoles connected to the TV and paying top dollar for flash carts, ODE's, consoles I don't even own, etc. I honestly think console-free gaming will eventually become the norm, literally all you need is a smart TV or a cheap TV stick to play anything up to Dreamcast and PSP. For non-retro consoles I get it, those are harder to emulate and you're maybe better off just buying the original hardware, but for 8-bit, 16-bit, and early 3D it's just the most affordable option for most. My systems still occupy a space, but I never use them anymore now that I have full rom sets for most of them. I did make it a point to buy controllers for the consoles I play the most, though.

>>9848282
I agree to this, it's why I usually recommend buying retro controllers instead of using modern controllers for emulation, but honestly if someone is just starting out it doesn't even matter that much. The controller definitely helps give the authentic feeling, though.

>>9848213
i have not played on original hardware in forever and dont care to. i have no idea what people are complaining about for the most part...i play nes, genesis, snes, and ps1 and never have any noticeable issues (assuming the game launches, sometimes on ps1 they wont without tinkering).

>>9848295
Yeah, as a kid I was playing Project 64 with my laptop keyboard because it was easier than setting up my N64 again and that was fine for me at the time (it was all I had tbf). Then eventually it wasn't fine anymore, something was missing, I needed to get a controller. Then that wasn't enough either and I started to think maybe I needed to build a collection, until I found out about USB adapters and replicas.

Now I've got every Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft controller and I can connect all of them to my PC (Ive only got the retrobit 8btn MD controller, I'm not a huge Sega guy). I sold all of my old consoles and games now. Don't need em anymore, it's literally better in every way to emulate with the original controller.

Input lag can be dealt with or adapted to, and most consoles are emulated accurately enough that you have to be an ultra autismo to notice problems.

>>9848213
>original hardware?
mostly terrible especially for CD-based consoles because low quality drives and loading times.

even with Flash carts, emulating on a PC is so much easier and less bullshit. PC is truly the master rice.

>>9848213
I emulate on an old pc in my room and have it hooked up to a CRT via one of those shitty HDMI to composite cables. yeah it looks like shit but composite already looks like shit, looking like shit is part of the CRT experience.

>>9848462
>looking like shit is part of the CRT experience.
lol

>>9848227
this

>>9848279
With unlimited space I'd definitely get into classic arcade machines. But even then I think the appeal is more owning a piece of history and something that is built for one game and one game that interests me

>>9848213
For the same reason I don't have a physical anime collection or collect figures, because I don't want project to the world that I'm a degenerate nerd.

>>9848282
This is definitely the best way.
I have a bunch of old consoles that I never use
once I got USB converters. I just don't want to invest even more into dedicated hdmi/av switcher

>>9848213
punching in a cartridge is preferable to loading up an emulator GUI but other than that the experience is interachangable. if i had infinite cash i'd pay for carts but i don't so i can't give a shit.

I prefer to play on original hardware. I have nothing against emulators and don't give a shit about how other people play their games.

>>9848483
Yeah I get that. Eventually when I get some spare time I'm gonna build my own arcade stick. I'm gonna get programmable LEDs that I can light up different colours so any buttons that aren't used aren't lit and the buttons that aren't used are highlighted and the colour they're supposed to be, I'm thinking about having the left joystick (need two for Robotron after all) be removable and then I can slot in a trackball or a spinner. I'm hoping that will cover pretty much everything I'd want to play.

I got a t300rs racing wheel already. So all I'd need for a fairly complete arcade setup after that is a sinden lightgun (or something like it) and maybe a DDR platform.

It's not a perfect solution, but right now I'm just using my 8btn retrobit controller for MAME so it'd at least be better than that.

But yeah, there's something about the custom built nature of arcade machines that make them interesting. Even with all that stuff I just mentioned I'd still consider getting a Space Invaders or Pac-Man cabinet or something if I saw it going cheap, something classic and historic. Maybe some pinball machines too.

>>9848236
So play on an emulator? Gotcha.

>>9848485
fag

>>9848213
My opinion is: as long you are having fun and enjoying, it does not matter.

>>9848497
Yeah I ended up just selling all my gaming stuff except for one controller per console, got around 600 all together and a hell of a lot of extra room, and I didn't even really lose anything.

I used to be really sentimental about it "this was THE N64 I had as a KID! I cant EVER get rid of it." But I realised it was the games I was sentimental about, not the console itself or the plastic casing the games came in.

>>9848213
Ah shit, here we go again.

>>9848556
>I got a t300rs racing wheel already
I just got one of these too. Problem is with emulating old games the force feedback doesn't seem to work the way I think it should

>>9848671
Tbh, I got it for stuff like Assetto Corsa, but I did try playing a few retro games on emulators and the FF wasn't as good as the sim racers Ive been playing I just put it down to them being older games and they just didn't get it down yet. But now you got me wondering if it's something else. I was using PCSX2 though, haven't tried any through MAME or other emulators yet.

i dont care as long as youre having fun :0)

>>9848213
Emulation is gay but I got sick of rotten plastic. Fortunately FPGA gets it right.

>>9848213
always nice to play on og hardware, using original controls
nowadays not entirely possible, especially with older/rarer games

emulation is invaluable for preservation
its also based for piracy
i feel nothing stealing from IP holders who didnt even make the game being flustered that i didnt buy their shitty re-release directors cut

Emulation because it's not trapped in console hardware.

>>9848227
I'd say get the $200 oled displays on Amazon. For me as long as the response times are good I don't care.

What did you guys have for breakfast today? I just had a cup of black coffee and a little granola.

>>9848282
>It's just the controller.

No. It’s input lag. All emulators besides FPGA hardware emulators like the MiSTER have at least 3/5 frames of input lag. Run ahead doesn’t solve the issue because it fucks with animation and scrolling.

>>9848213
I’ve found that the thing that works best for me is to have the original hardware with a (knockoff) flashcart/burned disc/sd card, coupled with purchasing original copies of games that I really enjoy.
I’ll put emulators on certain newer consoles but I usually just end up playing the games on their original hardware because it ends up being more enjoyable to me.

emulator = dishonest

>>9848213
what about real hardware and everdrive?

Using real hardware makes me feel like an idiot
My wife would probably think less of me the moment she saw me playing with these toys and having these big and stupid old tvs in the house.
On my PC everything is subtle and nobody knows what I'm playing or doing at all.

It's this order in superiority, based of accurate experience with minimal glitches

-Real hardware with authentic carts. ODEs are also acceptable in this tier
-Real Hardware with expensive flash carts
-FPGA solutions/MiSTER
-Real Hardware with bootleg alibaba flash carts
-Emulation

Emulation, while a solid and acceptable choice, is unfortunately bottom of the barrel worst way to play games.

It depends on the emulator. The original console is always the best, and for Pokemon emulators I always find an emulator with multiplayer. I like MyBoy, MelonDS, and Dolphin, as well as Citra.

buyfag cope

>>9849825
Cry

>>9849842
coomsumer

>>9848282
At this point even controllers start to feel pointless to me. Controller design haven't changed much and at the end of the day it's about ergonomics.

>>9848213
Don't care anymore. Used to be a huge purist. I still have plenty consoles and physical copies. Everdrives for GB, Genesis, SNES, and N64. But I've found myself almost exclusively revisiting games emulated on my Steam Deck. It's just easier and I don't care for any of the differences unless it's totally game breaking or functionally different. On that note, I make it a point to play gen 1/2 Pokemon games on the real stuff due to trading and stadium 1/2 connectivity. Still have the N64 and gameboy primed for that. Everything else I don't care to emulate. To each their own.

>>9848560
Relax, it wasn't a shot at you guys. I just don't like having clutter all over my flat.

>>9848468
People who play with crts are the same chucklefucks that enjoy lo-fi. They either say the image adds character or how one semi-benifical aspect of crt somehow blows out everything oleds and lcds provides out of the water. Just get a 2k monitor or if your anal an oled in particular and throw on a half decent filter and you basically get the same experience as a crt except for 10x times the product life time and smaller form factor.

>>9849760
Skill issue

playing on original hardware is like making love to a beautiful woman. emulating is like being in prison and all you have acess to are sissy boy punks doing imitations of women. it's a no brainer which is better; emulation all day every day.

>>9849940
Playing on hardware is like fucking a pin up model when she is not in a photoshoot and letting go. Playing on emulation is like making the woman's pin up come to life and fucking that perfect woman instead. But what do I know, me and anon are fags anyway so we cant say shit about fucking women as a metaphor for games, let alone as posters on /vr/

>>9849760
You know whenever I hear people scream about input lag it always seem to turn out that they didn't properly configure plugins or drivers when they tried emulation. Then you ask about their hardware and its always something like a low end rig or some workstation that they havent bothered to compare the specs of to the software before installing. I have played the PS1 and PS2 extensively yet I have never noticed any substantial lag when playing around with emulators. Even with rythem games like vib-ribbion that are very input senstive I dont get any difficulties

>>9849910
apples to oranges. people who like "lo-fi" are into it for aesthetic purposes.
while I don't agree with the CRTfags, the fact is most games of the crt era were designed to be played on one. they look odd if they are played on anything else.

Crazy how people still debate this like it's still 2005.

It's 2023, emulation can be anything you want. You want to emulate on a CRT TV, using the original pads? You can do that. While also using overclocking, getting rid of sprite flicker, and using run ahead.

>>9849725
im trying to learn how to maintain and fix my PVM when needed but as for an OLED I feel like its not quite there yet

>>9850029
If you are talking about the way composite messes with luma signals and smooths out pixel gradients I half agree. But the downside is that you have to use composite to achieve that effect. You are sacrificing overall visual clarity for returns on some minor shading elements. Its not worth it and most people advocating for crt are not even talking about composite but rgb which eliminates this kind of shading entirely

>>9850029
No they don't though.

You just don't like pixel art. Also the CRTs they were developing on and making sprites on were computer monitors which were way higher quality than the average consumer TV. Also LCD TVs were out in the late 80s. So it's not like people couldn't play these games on something that wasn't a CRT, I was playing SNES on an LCD as a kid. It's all just nostalgia, if you're going to make a headcanon, why not go for the best that was available rather than whatever you had as a kid? If you had the money at the time, that's what you would have went for right?

Might as well smear vaseline on your screen.

>>9850082
>Also LCD TVs were out in the late 80s. So it's not like people couldn't play these games on something that wasn't a CRT

The fuck are you talking about? The first consumer TV that wasn't some strange little novelty oddity was a 42" plasma in 1997 and it was like $20k. You could not really find them in stores until the turn of the century. No one was playing games or designing them on LCDs in the 80s and 90s.

>>9848213
I've been using cartridge emulators since the 80's

>>9849845
Commie

>>9850152
Sharp did it in 1988. The first commercial LCD TV was made by Sharp. It was a 14" TFT screen. Just Google it instead of making stuff up dude, that's what I did.

And I didn't say everyone had one. Of course they were expensive. But like I said if you're going to invent a headcanon as to what these games "need" to have before they look and feel right. Might as well get the best that was available at the time. Since, if you could have had that, you would have had that.

I was playing SNES games on an LCD in the late 90s dude. Wtf are YOU talking about?

>>9850593
> I was playing SNES games on an LCD in the late 90s dude. Wtf are YOU talking about?

no you weren’t, stop LARPing. If you had the money to afford an LCD TV in the late 90s you were not playing fucking SNES on it. Even if you were to try and play a video game on it the scalers were so bad back then it would be unplayable.

So let’s just assume for a second that you mean you were playing early alpha versions of zsnes or something with an apple studio display. Why anyone would do this willingly just boggles the mind.

you were probably not even alive in the late 90s because if you lived through it you’d understand how retarded your claim is.

>>9850706
I had many consoles and I liked the SNES. I also played N64 in the late 90s on an LCD.

Plus, I was a kid. I didn't know about input lag or scaling or any of that shit. I just wanted to play Mario.

You can disbelieve me all you want. I don't really care. Just for you, I'll say that I'm lying. How's that? Now let's move on to what I actually want to talk about.

LCD TVs existed back then, and if you had the money you would have been playing on the best that was available.

So why not pretend you had the money for your nostalgia headcanon? I'll tell you why. It's because it's all bullshit anyway to satisfy some lie you tell yourself to fulfill some weird nostalgia kick and defend playing your games in a way that actively looks worse.

>>9848213
I think emulators are neat and I appreciate what they offer. Not everyone wants to (or is able to) spend a lot of money to play retro games, and that's totally fine by me.

Personally I prefer original hardware with flash carts and optical drive emulators when possible. There's something to be said about experiencing the game on the original hardware it was designed for, and all of the quirks and limitations that come with it. But there will always be those consoles that I just don't care enough about that I will emulate. I am not going to buy a 3DO or a Jaguar to play the two games on it that I'm interested in.

>>9850748
> So why not pretend you had the money for your nostalgia headcanon? I'll tell you why. It's because it's all bullshit anyway to satisfy some lie you tell yourself to fulfill some weird nostalgia kick and defend playing your games in a way that actively looks worse.

I don’t own a crt and havnt for a while. I’m just calling out your google search bullshit because it’s very very obvious to anyone that lived in the 90s that you are lying.

>>9850082
>No they don't though.
>You just don't like pixel art. Also the CRTs they were developing on and making sprites on were computer monitors which were way higher quality than the average consumer TV. Also LCD TVs were out in the late 80s. So it's not like people couldn't play these games on something that wasn't a CRT, I was playing SNES on an LCD as a kid. It's all just nostalgia, if you're going to make a headcanon, why not go for the best that was available rather than whatever you had as a kid? If you had the money at the time, that's what you would have went for right?
>Might as well smear vaseline on your screen.
Can't believe fags are still posting this nonsense when devs have stated otherwise

>>9850082
You're wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-aJ8YNSYGs&t=1835s

>>9850082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILeyo1iv0A&t=89s

>>9850783
That's an awesome setup, anon. Nice turntable too.

>>9850783
>>9850790
>>9850791
>>9850796

Peasants.

>>9850082
Can't really argue with the results. Dracula goes from pixel art to an ms paint scribble on LCD.

>>9850706
nta, but wew lad, that's a whole lot of projecting. In the late 90's I had an LCD TV, multiple LCD monitors, and of course had been using LCD laptops for years. You obviously didn't, and your kidsplaining of shit you know nothing about is hilarious.
Imagine thinking that LCD TVs of the time weren't designed to be used for the things people used them for at the time. Imagine thinking that people in the 90's would stop playing video games in the living room because some faggot who wasn't born yet would some day be violently triggered by that. This is your brain on reddit kiddo.

>>9850876
You had a fucking laptop in the 90s my man?

>>9848227
My 14” PVM cost me $90, was that a fair price or did I paypig?

>>9850863
The left one makes me understand how it feels to need glasses. I can feel my eyes losing focus just looking at it. Also that's not because it's a CRT. It's because it's an RF or composite connection (honestly it wouldn't surprise me if its just been edited). See my image.

And it's not pixel art anyway, its digital art. I know you can see pixels, but zoom in on any bitmap image far enough and you'll see pixels. It's not just pixels that makes something pixel art. The limitations are kind of inherent to it. There's too many colours, it's low res digital art. The thing that makes something pixel art instead of oekaki or digital art, is the control over the pixels. Things like clusters, careful colour choices, how much of a difference a single pixel can make, etc.

>>9850883
Dude, just because your family couldn't afford it, doesn't mean nobody could. The technology existed, it was sold, people bought it.

I just got a ps5 and found out I can't play my psone classics that I've had for years on my account. Pretty fucking gay.

>>9850748
> I was a kid.
> I just wanted to play mario

>>9850876
> and of course had been using LCD laptops for years

Yes yes I’m sure you were a simple child who just wanted to play mario on his $20k luxury TV and do his taxes on his shitty windows 95 laptop.

>>9850961
We are two different people. I didn't say I bought my LCD TV. I was a kid, my parents bought it for me.

You're not very bright are you?

>>9850009
Input Lag is the biggest meme of retrogaming.

Your brain gets used to the input lag after a few minutes of playing a game. Unless you have superhuman reflexes or you are an autistic speedrunner who needs perfect inputs, a few missed frames are not that bad.

Here's an example of what you can do with an emulator and the infamous input lag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9EmyBRMY7M

>>9850961
>>9850970

Also, what makes you think I had a 42" TV. I cant remember how big my one was, but it wasn't even 20 inches. Just because you only know about that one TV, doesn't mean it was the only one available. Do you think they just went all in with the 42 inches and nothing else? Didn't even try to make a more affordable option at all?

>>9850973
Even if you are an autistic speedrunner, every game has input lag anyway, they still have to adapt. He's just making excuses to justify buying an emulator.

>>9850973
>>9851001

Just because you can perform well with input lag doesn’t mean you have to accept it. Instant response feels nice… that’s the only justification i need. I play fighting games, and once I got used to playing with very low input lag I’d prefer to keep it that way in any game I play if i have the choice.

>>9851020
SFA3 has 4 frames of input lag.

>>9851020
>>9851059
And assuming you play it on a TV and not a PC monitor. You've got an extra 3 frames of input lag atleast right there. Windows might add that, but my monitor is 5ms. So I guess our experiences aren't so different after all.

>>9851059
>street fighter alpha 3 has 4 frames of input lag
>playing ps4 versions of fighting games
>not having a supergun

What are you trying to say exactly?

>>9851061
>And assuming you play it on a TV
you would assume wrong

>>9851064
There's a lot of pedants in this thread isn't there? Fair enough, I looked at the PS4 version, not the arcade. Doesn't change the point.

My point was, there's input lag anyway. And the input lag your TV adds is about the same as what Windows adds anyway, possibly more. If I play it on MAME, and you play with the JAMMA board, the game still has those 2.5 frames of input lag regardless. Windows might add extra, but so does your TV. This is an extra layer of autism that's just not necessary.

>>9851073
Okay, enjoy worrying about a couple of frames of lag every time you play a new game. I'm sure it really adds a lot to the experience.

emulation for most retro consoles and most games is practically perfect, I'm not autistic enough like some in /vr/ to notice the problems. however I do need to play with the original controllers, it feels weird playing games, at least most non-multiplatform games on a console with different controllers than meant. I mean if it's an 8 bit game, whether master system or NES, I need a NES controller. If it's a genesis game I need a genesis or even saturn controller for it. Again the only exceptions would be multiplatform games, so fucking Toy Story 2, it doesn't matter to me, but say something like Tomb Raider, and it just feels wrong to play with anything but a dualshock (doesn't matter if dualshock1,2,3 etc), even if TR came out on PC/Saturn/etc

>>9851080
>enjoy worrying about a couple of frames of lag
I don't worry, I just enjoy 3 frames of full system lag compared to 5/6 (or even 7/8 for Saturn Emulation). It's okay that most people don't notice or care, I don't expect everyone to be as autistic about it. My problem is people who get aggressive about the assertion that just because they can't notice or don't care that nobody should.

>>9848213
Emulators are good if you spend ages tweaking them to get good input lag. If I go visit a friends house and they say they an emu setup then I know for sure its going to be a shit experience full of input lag and stuttering, thats what most of these setups are like.

>>9851117
2 frames extra is about 30ms. That's right at the limits of human perception. I'm a professional musician, I've been playing since I was 12 and I'm 28 now. I'm very good if I say so myself, and I can't notice less than 30ms of delay on my DAW when recording and I have an incredibly tight sense of timing. Timing is one if the things I'm best at. If you can actually tell the difference and it's not a placebo, then I'm genuinely impressed.

I would love to see you perform a controlled blind test with 2 extra frames. Because maybe I should put more time into gaming if it's led to that level of temporal perception.

>>9851149
>daw lag

30ms if perfectly frame paced at 60fps. Double that for any missed frame. It's also compounded. Maybe 3 frames isn't noticeable... but 5/6 frames every time something dips or goes south and all the sudden you're talking about spikes of 100s of miliseconds.

I'm a musician too, funnily enough. Professional, well that's debatable. I will say that you are talking about two completely different things, display chain lag and interface / ASIO lag. 30ms of total system lag is way way lower than total chain lag of original hardware and a CRT. An extra 30ms is not going to effect you much when you're already so low. You can see full loop input lag in Studio One and latency of a daw is so much lower than any video game that trying

Here's a demo with some synths to help me when I record vocals. I'm not the tightest player in the world, but I have played in bands since I was a teenager and I'm just showing that I do play guitar, please no bully.

https://voca.ro/102lvDoLhHqv

>>9851145
>Yo bro dont you know playing emulators produce input lag?
Yeah I am saying you should play with OG hardware and carts
>What do you mean you cant afford to spend $100+ on a retro gaming set up?
>This sucks, I came to enjoy gaming with my bro but instead I have to deal with 100ms of input lag

I just play games in whichever way I can because I play lots of them so I don't have the time to autistically discuss irrelevant things and would rather spend that time autistically discuss relevant things like the games.

>>9848285
>that extremely basic taste in games
>Chris SpawnPoint
>Daddy
cringiest photo I've seen on /vr/

>>9850706
wew lad

>>9848213
I honestly don't give a fuck, play however you want. The only thing that upsets me is seeing normalfags plug a 240p console into their fuckhuge 4K display via composite complete with stretched widescreen. Bonus points if they complain about latency or how the game looks. Ultimately though I'm not going to sperg out at them about it though.

>>9851331
>released november 15th 2000
what did he mean by this?

https://youtu.be/L7IeIWKqVzE

>>9850783
What game is this?

>>9848213
Original hardware is great when it's viable to those seeking it out, especially with flash carts, ODE's, or even MISTers and CRT's.

Shit's gotten prohibitively expensive and harder to get into over the years though, and if I hadn't already been building a strong collection over the last 16-17 years I would just use emulators exclusively by now, which is why I don't blame anyone for going that route.

>>9848213
I don't care anymore. Emulators are much more convenient.

>>9848213
I like having 30+ systems on my Steam Deck I can play at any time. For old DOS and Japanese games, I'll emulate as well. I have around a dozen consoles connected to 2 CRT TVs with flashcarts, ODEs and softmods to run roms and disc images, but I don't play them that much anymore since work, gym and family errands all take me out of the home too much.

If you're claiming you're a pro gamer claiming you're using original hardware and you use emulators, that can be a big deal. People have gone in-depth with how the mechanics of the original arcade cabinet worked compared to emulation.

>>9850883
I was shipping containers of laptops in the 90's my boylet

>>9850961
>Cope cope I'm a simple child
Well there's yer problem kiddo

>>9848248
That's very true but emulators can improve the way a game looks drastically.
I remember playing FFIX on a CRT using my OG PSX and was surprised with how choppy it looked. Fired it up on Retroarch, upscaled it, and never looked back.
I can't say the same thing about old NES or Sega games though, you do need the original controllers and upscaling is redundant.

>>9848213

Emulation is superior in the current year. Less headaches, low cost, features like cloud saving, achievements and other record keeping.

Original hardware is only going to get shittier and shittier. CRTs, cartridges and consoles are only going to get more expensive and break more and more. You can get the same experience with emulation as long as you put in the research and time, and it will only improve as time goes on.

>>9848213
I've always played on original hardware, I can't get into emulation to this day because it just doesn't feel like the intended experience. I can understand emulating a game if it's too expensive but even then only popular retro vidya is absurdly expensive. I think the best part of playing on original hardware though is that you actually have to go looking around for the game or console you want, it always feels like an adventure to find retro vidya I dream of finding a wife who will go with me to thrift stores and the like to look for retro vidya with me

>>9851737
nice handwriting retard

>>9850029
>the fact is most games of the crt era were designed to be played on one
thats not the reason for using a crt, the reason for using crt is that lcd deinterlaces a progressive signal because they don't consider 15khz progressive signals, so it looks like complete ass compared to rgb crt, also crt motion is much smoother

>>9852453
You forgot, 3d games in 4k, overclocking processors, so for instance snes shmups can be fast and smooth, run ahead, rom hacks etc

>>9852453
>>9853105
And being able to play with other people online. You can play Saturn Bomberman with 10 players if you want to.

>>9851737
Chink everdrives.
based, krikkz is a fucking bitch with his prices.

>>9849910

Absolute cretin take

>>9848213
perfectly fine, as long as you have a good controller to support it

>>9848213
As long as people are enjoying games I dont care. I prefer to play on real hardware when I can which is why I have flashcarts but I play stuff in emulators too. Just got an atari 7200 flashcart the other day. Haven't tried it out yet though.

>>9849760
>Run ahead doesn’t solve the issue because it fucks with animation and scrolling.
why spout misinformation when you can't configure RA properly? Runahead works fine, sounds like you tried it with bsnes and didn't use the emulator's built-in functionality like you're supposed to.

You should ALWAYS emulate when possible. Scalpers and chucklefucks who sell roms (as well as the retards who pretend this is "the way" to play old games) can get fucked.

I prefer to emulate for convenience, but it's nice to crack out the hardware and games I own physically and play them that way every so often.

>>9849940
so what you're saying is that emulation is better?

if you can't afford a crt you don't have to make bullshit up