/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9831809
>HD pack uses AI upscaling

>>9831815
>Fan translation

>seamless

>20/200 vision
free anti-aliasing

>>9831818
>"Fan remaster"

>>9831927
>uh boss, where did you get the idea for these sprites?
>it came to me in a dream

Why are texture/model replacement mods for 3D games generally better than shit like Mesen sprite replacement packs? Seems like the general principle behind them is the same (make the game look better than the hardware would allow), but the sprite replacement packs just take away the identity of the original game.
Same reason why I don't like MSU-1 audio replacements for Super Nintendo (besides the ones that just replace the audio with the original uncompressed samples. Those are fucking awesome).

Zelda 1 remaster is good, but scrolling has small lag, even in lowspec version, but shorter. Is it becuse I use RA mesen?

>>9831927
the actraiser remake looks exactly like this

>>9832040
>Why are texture/model replacement mods for 3D games generally better than shit like Mesen sprite replacement packs?

But they usually aren't?

>>9831927
Unironically sovl

Old pre-rendered backgrounds upscaled with AI are the most hideous shit in existence and also have the most retards who will defend them to the death.

>>9833137
I like them because they look like classic 90s prerendered game poster art. Not for playing the game though.

>>9833137
A few months ago over in emugen we had a Russian schizo who would not shut the fuck up about the real and proper way to play Parasite Eve 2 being through rendering the game in HD with PGXP and AI upscaled textures and backgrounds. He unironically defended every aspect of the bottom screenshot, including the stretching. That thread and the next few after hit bump limit in record time thanks to him never ceding an inch and picking a fight with the entire general.

>>9833152
L O O K I N
G O O D

>>9831927
lolwtf is thisss?? did someone draw this or is this some crazy ass filter

>>9833137
Maybe I'm retarded but I actually like the look of this, if you got an actual artist to redraw the body and touch up the details it'd look neat

>>9833152
>including the stretching
ok I can forgive all the other stuff but righ here is seriously fucked up
I dont even want to know the mental gymnastics or illness that would justify defending it

>>9833117
RE4 HD and FF9 Moguri are infinitely better than any Mesen sprite pack.

>>9833167
I feel like it should be POSSIBLE to do one of these well, with the help of an actual artist to touch things up and polish with respect to the originals, but there's never ever an actual artist involved.

>>9833174
You musn't remember the golden age of all those godawful N64 packs. RE4 has an actual good one, yeah, but that shit took like ten years and incredible autism and skill. The vast majority of 3D packs are putrid, clashing shit.

>>9833172
He literally just denied that it was stretched, period. Must've been that vranyo thing I've heard so much about.

>>9833152
Besides the stretched aspect ratio and the blurriness of the bed, this unironically looks better than the original.

>>9833182
Ah, those were the days.

>>9833223
now this, this is sovl……(looks like the game was somehow jammed into a Saturn engine and then hit with AI upscaling)

>>9833223
>Just slap some out of place cripsy high res textures on the low poly geometry, it looks great bro
They're still doing this shit just with the 3d version

>>9833187
>>9833223
>>9833234
Glad I never touched shit like this.
Instead, I'm holding out hope that the PC decompilation's Render98 turns out good.

>>9833234
This is just what PC game textures look like.
Low-poly geometry too.

>>9833234
Retexture >> 3D >> N64

>>9833152
well... he actually was right, the bottom image looks much better than the top one... I'm not sure i' would play a game with this much modifications in my first playtrhough, though, i like to have the original experience before a heavily modded one

>>9833137
that isn't so bad... it looks like one of those telltale games, with cellshaded poligons

>>9832046
I disagree. It looks like a poorly-done flash game to me, with the mix of custom sprites and BS Zelda tiles. I applaud the effort of it though.

I think "Lookin good!" is the single greatest /vr/ meme.
>direct
>concise
>visually striking
>funny
>perfectly articulates disdain with poor attempts at making old games look better through ironic praise of the attempt

>>9833247
>Render98
>good

>>9833223
post the cel shaded one

>>9833295
>models that are essentially 3D versions of the official art
>bad
Same reason I like Mario 64's Render96. The game now looks like the official promo renders, because everything is sourced from the official promo renders.

Anyone know if Mother: 25th Anniversary Edition is the same way? Skimmed through it a bit and didn't care for getting rid of the Peanuts-esque artstyle, but I never took a deeper look at everything else.

>>9833305
They look like those retarded pajeet youtube videos my nephew watches

>>9833301
ToT

>>9833172
Most normal people don't care about stretching as long as their widescreen monitor is filled out. I remember years ago setting up my mom's tv to display in proper aspect ratio (she was using cable and the company sent the standard def signal in 4x3). She didn't like it and demanded that I fix it so that the screen is filled out regardless of what that did to the image.

>>9833293
I love that it causes extra seething if just used as a text response, exclamation mark very important. It’s a work of art in and of itself.

>>9833249
No wonder retro PC games look soulles.

>>9831809
>>9831815
>>9831818
>HD Pack completely AI generated

>>9833152

>>9833431
Honestly, what bothers me the most about this image is the uneven shelf on the left.

>>9833431
This got an audible chuckle out of me, ok CRTfags I’ll concede this one

>>9833051
Yeah. Looks ugly. I don't like GODZ HD graphics are as well, but at least you can turn on the original graphics.

The problem with Mesen packs is that a lot of old NES games only have like 2 frame walking/attack animations, and there's no way to add more animation frames. So the animation looks like the video game equivalent of South Park.

>>9831927
I'm sure that one day we'll have AI filters that will do exactly this.

>>9833431
Not stretched enough

>>9833491
Ima keep it real with you chief, I'm looking forward to AI generated romhacks and shit like that. I know this board would cream their pants over endless AI generated Saturn games or Saturn looking Windows games. The Sega Rally gameplay version of lookin good! It'll be the only positive out of the singularity.

>>9833223
Looks like a Chinese smartphone bootleg.

>>9831927
>WHAT ARE THOOOOSE!??

I kinda want a Mesen HD pack that turns the characters into Stallone and Schwarzenegger, like that one CRT filter meme image, but unironically.

>>9833654
The Contra characters*

>>9833152
am i supposed to hate this

>>9833223
That's the GTA remaster.

>>9833152
>proper way to play Parasite Eve 2
There's no proper ways, there's only personal favorite ways. I do agree with the russian guy if you're going to play this in high resolution screens. But if I had a working CRT I would agree with the nostalgiafags

>>9833152
Mitochondria are the cake factory of the cell.

>>9833431
Now post this but during a MK64 two player match

>>9833137
It looks quite good

>>9834171
>thicc

>>9833431
Built for Sonic 2 co-op

>>9834284
He's got 4 controllers out, it's gonna be a 4 player match lol

>>9833137
>>9833152
It can look great if actually done well and later fixing stuff by hand. The best example is the Moguri mod for FFIX which probably the best upscaling project made. Even comes with great optional stuff like reducing the time that it takes to transition to the battle screen, original fonts, analog support, widescreen etc.
Usually I'm not a fan of these but I genuinely wouldn't play FFIX again without it, it's fucking amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uMcim5KEi8
https://sites.google.com/view/moguri-mod/home?authuser=0

>>9833293
It's also not a /vr/ meme. This shitty board has nothing but unfunny "injokes" that may as well come from reddit.

>>9833192
>stretched aspect ratio and the blurriness of the bed
>unironically looks better than the original.
Pick one.

>>9834927
>and later fixing stuff by hand
It would be a redeveloped game as many remastered we've seem, but more related to the original

>>9835278
The problem with /vr/ is mostly australia-kun trying to force his unfunny, low IQ memes ("sega system", "shiturn", "trashure", etc).
But there were some funny genuine /vr/ memes, like oy me speccy or the roaming romans

>>9835285
>muh Australia
He's a fag but this board as a whole is just humorless shit so don't try and deflect. And often times attempts at being funny are either really forced, likely the dozen or so regulars here just forcing "memes" to make their little cubby hole here feel "special", or it's stamped out because jannies don't like it (the "Sonic rough 3D" meme that was actually funny and satirical but mods were gay and stamped it out from spreading).
>But there were some funny genuine /vr/ memes, like oy me speccy or the roaming romans
in-jokes that never spread out ofbthe board, not memes.

>>9835285
>>9835306
Also
>shitturn
Isn't that unfunny considering how it makes Stollar the de facto Todd Howard of the board. That some faggots here get irrationally angry at it instead of rolling with it or ignoring is just more proof how boring and sterile this place is at best and how straight up retarded is is at worst.

>>9835285
>oy me speccy
Not funny, but the related "Zniggy" is.
>roaming romans
Sonic autism is never funny.

>>9835281
The bed looks blurry in the raw original too, though. You need a CRT or shaders to hide it.

>>9835327
And the stretching ruins it all, so it's a moot point.

>>9833249
Show me any retro PC game that looks like that originally.

>>9833152

There's plenty wrong with this aside from the blurry bed and stretched aspect ratio.

The plastic looking walls. Whatever the fuck it did to the carpet. It didn't fix the banding. Everything looks slightly different from everything else. The text is wonky and blurry. The high resolution emphasises the lack of detail. In some cases it actually removed detail as in the ceiling lights. The lighting on the walls was blended better in the original and now the lighting is over powering. I could keep going.

This looks shit. I don't get why someone who doesn't like how old games look this much would even bother playing them. Why go through the effort just for this to be the end result?

>>9833338
Hideous.

>>9833431
I don't think I could let myself own a tv like that. I'd be too worried about tipping it over.

The Zelda I Mesen HD sprite pack is actually good, though.

>>9833338
Looks just like Wind Waker!

>>9837971
Is that the one that turns the stalfos into the crab from Mario Bros arcade?

>>9833152
>"corrected" version has worse misaligned floor tiles than the original "wrong" version

>>9833152
If it's any consolation, he'll be dead on the Ukraine front in a few weeks.

>>9831809
Some actually look good, though.

>>9833152
> That thread and the next few after hit bump limit in record time thanks to him never ceding an inch and picking a fight with the entire general.

Based ruskie refusing to backdown. This is why America has fallen in modern times.

>>9833152
SP must pay for his crimes

>>9833338
I think it looks cool as a concept but I wouldn't play through it like that

Yep...just as the devs intended.....

>>9831815
>bookia nova

>>9833152
I kind of like this.
…I'm also Russian.