/vr/ - Retro Games

wow, the $300 emulator box is finally achieving what everyone else got 25 years ago
amazing

Yea I don't have Patreon, show the rest of the post numbnuts.

>another shitster chill thread

>>9818337
N64 bros...

Now we can finally play the only 2 games we've ever played for 30 fucking years.

Ocarina and M64...

AGAIN!

>>9818337
>yes and no
So it's impossible. Thanks for confirming this grift.

>>9818341

I don’t either and the misterfags haven’t shared it. They shared enough to let know even with hope temper expectations

>>9818385
Bittersweet bc the Pc has ports now from the decompiles that probably puts them light years ahead of the originals - and I’m a fag who just bought and installed the n64digital and already own a mister. The timings is so apropos

Oh well. If it means less wear and tear on the original console that’s a good thing. But also maybe it’s time to clean the inventory out on actual stuff

I'll give a shit when it plays Knife Edge correctly. Until then it's incomplete garbage that offers no advantages compared to software emulation.

>>9818341

>>9817775
>>9817778
>>9817780

>>9818385
>N64 bros...
>Now we can finally play the only 2 games we've ever played for 30 fucking years.
>Ocarina and M64...
>AGAIN!
ahaha oh man this got me. too real man. too fucking real.

>>9818340
>>9818427
>I cannot tell you today what will be possible, but I can assure you that I'm eager to work on this and make the very best I can. What I can tell you already is, that there are ways to work around this issue that will still make the CPU more accurate to the original than the current generation of software emulators.

>>9818442
>>9818448
So it's cheating, which defeats the purpose of FPGA, and it's not even more accurate?

https://twitter.com/AzumFpg/status/1646452662676619264
IT'S HAPPENING

>>9818529
Amazing that this guy cobbled together an emulator in mere weeks that displays the MK64 Junbotron just fine while software emulators took decades to not shit themselves completely trying to render it. Is this the power of a hardware engineer?

>>9818461
>worrying about accuracy
>on an emulator

Seriously though, why can't they make a good n64 emulator?

>>9818926
making emulators is hard, man.

>>9818923
FPGA is NOT an emulator, it is a clone. I understand there is perpetual confusion and that this has been propagated by even the producers themselves sometimes, however FPGA as its original intended is simply not emulation, it is cloned hardware. Otherwise there would be no point.

As I understand it this is in fact ACTUALLY emulation and not cloned hardware, therefore there is essentially no point in this over software on a pc other than a bunch of vague promises.

>>9818926
what:>>9818937
said. Anything above 16 bits is hard to develop for.

>>9818938
>it is a clone
I don't think you or the makers of the FPGA(emulator) know what the word "clone" means.

>>9818337
I really didn't think it could be done. I was already impressed with the MiSTer project. This just blows me away.

>>9818340
I paid about $120 for mine. You're just too dumb for this project. Go put some emulators on your phone.

>>9818947
It's a device that is intended to replicate another hardware device as accurately as possible - and generally-speaking, they're bang-on. The fact that you can reprogram an FPGA is inconseqential to the fact that while it is running a SNES hardware blueprint it is essentially a SNES clone.

>>9818960
I'm not saying it isn't cool or extremely invaluable in playing some fun games, but if words mean things then it's not a clone, though.
I do appreciate that they are, as you say and generally speaking, spot-on (we say that here in the West Coast of the US), however I doubt they're fully capable of all the feats pertaining to the original hardware. I say that with some real knowledge of the NES, the original American one, is special in its hardware and anything less than it and all of its capacitors;et al, it cannot pull off every trick and function.
So with that in mind, it's doubtful to me that the 16 bit emulators or not-emulators are truly as "accurate" as you may believe.

>>9818956
Not them, but aside from finally emulating certain problem N64 ROMs, there's nothing intelligent about paying over a hundred dollars to play Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time, both of which can be played on a used Wii or Gamecube for cheap and with 100% accuracy.

>>9819008
Nobody is buying a MiSTer for one platform. I bought a DE-10 and built it into a case I customized for the various Computer Platforms it supports. Which is where the ST is MiSTer comes from. Obviously MiSTer isn't for you. So don't buy a board that someone else could use better.

>>9819018
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad in any way or that anyone should stop for one second in buying one, just conversing over the technical aspects of this hobby. But yeah, I should hope those that buy one use it to the max otherwise it's a waste, but again, not my concern, true.
Maybe it isn't for me. Hard to say, I mean, if there was a physical game that was too expensive to buy, but I wanted to play it and not run into glitches;etc I'd have to run the numbers to see if it makes sense.

tl;dr chances are if I care so much, I'll buy the real hardware

>>9819008
>Wii or Gamecube
>100% accuracy
Lmao

>>9819029
Just my personal case, but my main reason for buying the thing was NES games, and PC-Engine as a second. I already had an SNES, Genesis, PSX on my setup and getting a modded NES + Flashcart was far more expensive than the MiSTer so I went for it.

It ended up replacing all of my systems on the end, since its so much better there's no reason not to use it. But it made me fall in love with NES games. They're just so snappy and responsive when playing with low latency. I've played more NES than anything else in the past year. Was able to beat some hard ass games I never thought I'd be able to. It's been so much fun.

The question is... PS2 when?

>>9819036
^Look at this dude stressing that the a Nintendo game playing on its native and cousin consoles isn't accurate.

>>9819041
>It ended up replacing all of my systems on the end
Not sure what you mean there.

>I've played more NES than anything else in the past year. Was able to beat some hard ass games I never thought I'd be able to. It's been so much fun.
Good on you, anon, and I say that without reservation or a modicum of cynicism.
For me, I've been getting into some weird Famicom exclusives that are on Nintendo Online, which doesn't sound as cool, but I hear you on discovering new games that are old and beating some hard ones too, finally.

>>9819053
>Not sure what you mean there.
Meant to say that in the end I saw there was no reason to not play SNES games on the MiSTer as well rather than my actual SNES, since I was already using a flashcard on that anyway, and so on.

NES/Famicom games are fantastic. Challenging but rewarding. Quick fun. I can sit on my couch and play 30 minutes or so and get through a bunch of levels in a game and feel like hours went by. When I play a more modern game, 30 minutes is literally nothing. I'm 30 years old, grew up with N64 so I don't really have nostalgia for the NES, it's just fantastic in it's simplicity.

>>9819089
>NES/Famicom games are fantastic. Challenging but rewarding. Quick fun. I can sit on my couch and play 30 minutes or so and get through a bunch of levels in a game and feel like hours went by. When I play a more modern game, 30 minutes is literally nothing. I'm 30 years old, grew up with N64 so I don't really have nostalgia for the NES, it's just fantastic in it's simplicity.
I know what you mean exactly.
I bought Contra: Rogue Corps for the Switch and I shit you not it takes at least five minutes before you're shooting at anything because the "skip" function is a lie and the devs think my ancient mid-forties ass wants to wait. Fools, I just wanted to play "CONTRA" not read a plot or think.
ME WANT SHOOT THINGS WITH CARTOON MAN IN GAME
NOW

>>9818337
FGPA Everdrive>Aya Neo pro>>AnbernicRG552>Anberic 351p>Analouge Pocket>Ayn Loki>>Raspberry Pi=Odroid>Retroid Pocket 3>Miyoo Mini +>Homebrewed and CFW-added PS Vita>>Aya Neo regular>Miyoo Mini>>Anbernic 351X>Ayn Odin>Anbernic 353p>>Retroid Pocket 2/2+>>Powkiddy A12>>Minisforum>AnbernicRGXX>>Powkiddy RK2023>Coolboy rs-97+>Evercade>>Powkiddy v90>Pirate multicart>>Powkiddy a66>Coolboy rs-97>>MiSTER

>>9819115
Being happy with a funky emulator from 2004> all dat shit

>>9819119
based

>>9818918
It's a cycle accurate emulator so it's running more accurate but slow as hell. He says in the comments that he sped up the footage. It's not an emulator you would actually want to run on your PC

>>9818385
You mean Majora's Mask and Banjo Kazooie

Ever since I got my MiSTer a few years back, I sold:
>Boxxed Super Famicom
>SD2SNES
>Mega Drive with the X5 Mega Everdrive
>Boxxed PAL Saturn (region modded; I got tired of it, stopped using it. Everything I want to play is on PS1 anyway-> PSX core)
>Boxxed NES with the Zapper (had nothing to do with the MiSTer, though. Just coincided time-wise)
I plan on selling my RGB modded N64 (NTSC-J) and my Everdrive 64 3.0.
I own a Raphnet adapter and plenty of OG controllers. Yes, I know the N64 core might never properly release but I still have my childhood N64, plenty of games and have been finding myself playing N64 mostly on emus anyway (netplaying Smash Remix or playing SM64/OoT romhacks)
Talk me out of it?

>>9819206
>Talk me out of it?
We still aren't 100% certain it'll turn out as functional as we all want it to be on MiSTer. A long while back Robert was working on a DS core and despite it booting some games he had to stop due to unavoidable RAM speed and 3D rendering issues

>>9818385
>between Saturn and PS1
PC-FUTA X

So im late to the party I want to get this but is it still as costly as getting a used N64 and modding it? I already purchased a PVM for playing retro, this would be icing on the cake if in fact its as good as original hardware. To my understanding when I asked an old friend about it he said most of the MiSTer is 100% accurate and not entirely an emulator, unless someone can elaborate that for me. I even think I asked a while ago about N64 and some said it couldnt be done due to the different parts it used, but here we are

>>9819406
No one really knows what the N64 core on Mister will be like yet. Read these posts in the other thread from the dev's patreon for more info:

>>9817775
>>9817778
>>9817780

That said, for anything up to 16bit, Neo Geo and Capcom CPS1+2 it's definitely worth it imo, especially if you plan to use a PVM or quality CRT.

>>9819428
what would I need to buy for it? as of right now anyway

So is the PS1 core good enough to be a replacement for actual hardware now?
Still debating if I should get an ODE for mine or just use my de10 w/ a SNAC adaptor to use my original memory cards

>>9819436
not that anon, but:
DE-10 nano, RAM slot (128mb), Analogue out board, OTG-USB adapter, a proper D-SUB to BNC cable (or whatever fits your setup).
And unless you own adapters, I recommend proper adapters for OG controllers instead of aftermarket garbage - the immersion will be perfect and you won't be able to tell that you're playing on MiSTer.

>>9819563
oh and I guess a case? I 3D printed mine but there are some fancy ones for sale.

>>9819215
My thinking was that it'll take time to sell it anyway. Might as well throw it on the market in the next few weeks.

>>9819184
He means Perfect Dark and Turok.

>>9819115
Steam Deck > FPGA
Sorry bro, the Steam Deck is my preferred way to play Armored Core 1-4A and I recommend you start doing it too.

>>9818385
kys bai5

>>9818341
https://imgur.com/a/GigOMNE

>>9818956
embarrassed for you

>>9818385
for me its starfox and waverace

>>9818385
perfect dark and majoras mask too nigger

>>9819563
thanks will do, also being relatively new to mister its considered equivalent to Orignal hardware right? I see alot of hate for it and calling it an overpriced emulator

>>9818427
Let's be honest, Knife Edge is exactly like that Air Strike Patrol games on SNES: an obscure, mediocre game that also happens to be an absolute bitch to emulate properly, which, once accomplished, will be met by praise followed by exactly nobody actually sitting down to play it.

>>9819685
your reply reads like bait. it's "hardware emulation". Smokemonster has a good video on the topic.

>>9819719
I think I found the right video, but no im genuinely curious why I should build one over getting original hardware. No bait honest

>>9819747
man if you dont know why you want it, then you dont want it.

>>9819753
>D-SUB to BNC cable
well I'd want one to play N64 and GBC games on it, cause I already have a wii for practically anything GC related

>>9819768
woops greentexted the wrong thing

>>9819768
i have every all the systems (the main ones) since nes, and i bought it because i dont want to connect a bunch of wires and power plugs and buy flashcarts and so on

Now that I feel betrayed by Sony and by Playstation

What is the console of the 1990's for the person who hates Nintendo and hates Playstation?

I want a console where he's never had his fucking hands on

>>9818385
Good and it's obvious you are a dirty Saturnfag trying to act like you have anything much in common with the PS1 fanbase, when the vast majority of PS1 enjoyers are likely to recognize the level of quality the N64 has over the Saturn and ally with that against the no-classics trashfire arcade port machine the Saturn really was

>>9819803
>flashcarts
main reason i'd want it over original hardware, same goes for video mods like HDMI etc. judging from videos I've seen the MiSTer has no problem giving a quality image regardless of what you play on

>>9819815
image looks great, some shader effects, nothing fancy like crt royale but good enough.

>>9818956
i paid less than $100 something for an n64 flash cart so i could use a real machine. you're using fpga hardware simulator. you're too dumb for life.

>>9819160
It’s not a cycle accurate emulator, nor are any of the cores he has developed to date on the MiSTer cycle accurate. It would be nice if people stopped making shit up.

>>9819441
No, unless you think running the emulated GPU faster than real hardware to make up for the MiSTer’s DDR3 latency is ok and don’t mind the bugs that result from it that can’t be fixed.

>>9818340
Good luck building a $300 PC that can emulate N64 games.

>>9820128
>wants to use a real machine for the ""authentic"" experience
>uses flashcarts, several of which use FPGA anyway, to remove an integral part of the real hardware experience
>Calling others dumb

>>9819919
yeah I got a PVM so all im worried about is that the D-SUB to BNC Cable makes it look nice, otherwise i'd probably have to deal with S-video

>>9819594
My RTX 3060 laptop > your steam deck
Sorry bro its just too weak and I rather have a big screen and controller.

>>9819703
The thing about Knife Edge is that while it is very much a 6/10, it's a light gun shooter on the N64. A console that doesn't have a lightgun controller.
It's one of the few N64 games that would be significantly better played with literally any other control method. Mouse, Wiimote, a fucking Kinect. Very few N64 games benefit as much from emulation as Knife Edge.

>>9819441
Yeah, it's indistinguishable from real hardware for 99% of games.

>>9819215
Well you'd think that from that experience he already has a good idea of what can be done on tbe MiSTer. He's pretty confident on this N64 core running on it, the only issue being the CPU speed it looks like

>>9820193
>>wants to use a real machine for the ""authentic"" experience
>>uses flashcarts, several of which use FPGA anyway, to remove an integral part of the real hardware experience
this. at the point where you're buying multiple ever drives or mod'ing out multiple consoles or whatever thats pretty much FPGA time.

Unless you plan on using the computer cores. Or at the very least putting the DE-10 into an Arcade cabinet to use the Arcade cores. Don't get a MiSTer. Retards that think MiSTer is only for console games can go fuck them selves with a cactus.

>>9819621
Sorry, you're retarded.

>>9820912
What kind of retard logic is this

>>9820968
Did you shit your pants typing that?

>>9820912

Learn to have some fun for once, you miserable shit

>>9819436
Technically, all you need is the DE-10 Nano board. But it's highly recommended to get a RAM board as well since the majority of the cores require it to function.

The IO boards are if you want to have analog output or if you for some reason want the few additional features the digital I/O board gives you and/or want to leave open the possibility of dual-RAM.

The USB board is just a usb hub basically so you can use your own USB hub if you want as the DE-10 doesn't come with that many USB ports for something like this.

Everything else is very optional. The RTC, the SNAC connectors, a case, etc.

>>9819719
Which one specifically?

>>9820583
Doesn't it pass 100% of hardware accuracy tests, including GPU?
>>9820151
Hey retard, any core that needs exact timing will require SDRAM installed, PS1 doesn't use the built in DDR3

>>9820135
it is. he is making a 1:1 core that can be run on a larger fpga first so that its ready to go for when one becomes available, then he is trimming away unnecessary shit so itll fit on the de10. apparently there are portions of the n64 cpu that never get used by any game

>>9821052
do these things need a fan? i got my de-10 and got it all setup, but im a bit paranoid of using it too much cause i see everyone's mister has a fan on it and mine dont

>>9821461
I don't use my fan because the noise is annoying. I do have an aluminum case and a heat sink having said that. It definitely isn't needed. The DE-10 nano is designed to be ran at higher temperatures than we use it for although some cores can get graphical glitches if you live in a hot country and run them like the DOS core. Using it for 16 bit consoles, PS1 and arcade stuff I have never had any issues.

>>9821447
>apparently there are portions of the n64 cpu that never get used by any game

Thais worries me if any homebrew or hacks use those portions then, like the crazy shit Kaze has been making lately.

>>9821461
I bought a Noctua Fan and use it because I'm not a retard.

>>9821569
What good homebrew is there for the N64?

>>9821589
>>9821589
dang, now im more confused. noise fan does sound lame, old consoles didnt have fans and this shouldnt either

>>9821629
Thus I bought a Noctua. No fan noise. Package stays cool so it might last longer than three years.

>>9821715
Not needed. I use the cheap ass fan that came with the standard metal case, it's a 5v fan and there's some free 3.3v pins on the board. If you plug the fan in there it's noiseless and it still spins enough to cool the MiSTer just fine. These chips are rated for 100 degrees celcius after all.

>>9821779
>These chips are rated for 100 degrees celcius
Who gives a shit. I'm never going to allow my DE-10's package to even get close to that temperature.
Yea, a Noctua isn't needed, but it sure is nice knowing I have a near noiseless high quality fan in my custom build that only cost me an extra ten dollars.

>>9818385
>Saturn
Most people didn't even know this shit existed.

>>9821790
Yeah, the noctua fan is great, don't get me wrong. But you can for sure get by on a cheaper fan at a lower voltage. I get something around 55 - 60 degrees which is very far from the rated 100s. You probably get low 50s with the Noctua. I'll probably upgrade to one very soon as well

>>9821790
Yeah, the Noctua is great, don't get me wrong. It's the best cooling you can get on this thing. But if the Noctua is 100% on cooling, then a cheap fan would be like 85% which is still pretty good.

>>9821790
I've considered the Noctua but I really dig the autistic little lights

>>9821052
Do they have a SNAC for the N64 controller yet or Would I be better off getting the Switch N64 controller and just playing over Bluetooth?

>>9820172
Literally any shitty HP office computer can run N64. I've been doing it for years

>>9821971
No, not with those 2GHz processors.

>>9821992
I played through several N64 games on a Dell my parents bought in 2005. I don't remember the processor but do remember it having only 512mb of ram. This would have been with emulators from about 2009.

>>9821461
is it in an enclosure? if so you need a fan pulling in cool air and vents to exhaust. if your de10 is just in an open acrylic sandwhich the way it comes from terasic then no

>>9821953
yes theyve had n64 snac for awhilenow

>>9822030
I cant seem to find em though, maybe im not looking up the right term or on the right site

>>9818337
Don't care, Atari Jaguar and 3DO core when?

>>9821853
>normies
Your kind have no power here.

>>9819813
64 troons are the people who just want to play the same 5 games for the rest of their lives. They're easily amused midwits and naturally this makes them goyslop consumers in other areas of life. They have nothing interesting to say because there's nothing left to say about the only 5 games they've ever enjoyed, yet they continue to blabber on anyway. This is what makes them so hated, it's obnoxious to blabber endlessly about the same old boring shit we've all heard a million times.

64 troons then project and assume the ps1 & Saturn enthusiasts just replay mgs and ff tactics over and over, but actually the they are novelty seekers always looking for a new "hidden gem" to unearth. There's always a new ps1 or saturn game getting translated, or one that flew under your radar because they were shooting games at you like bullets from a gatling gun.

We are not the same at a fundamental level.

>>9822245
Shiturn is garbage mate. It's much worse than N64. Literallyn zero games. Don't even dare put it alongside the based PS1

Consolewar fags are retarded. Just play everything.

>>9818385
>saturn

shittier versions of early ps1 games, 2D slop, and terrible first party exclusives

>>9822245
>There's always a new ps1 or saturn game getting translated, or one that flew under your radar because they were shooting games at you like bullets from a gatling gun.

saturn died in its own country as soon as the dreamcast was released. it got no noteworthy games after SF alpha 3

>>9822079
https://misteraddons.com/collections/control/products/reflex-adapt

>>9818385
Saturn has literally one game and that's Panzer Dragoon Saga. The rest is irrelevant arcade ports and worse versions of 2D games that already existed.

>>9822324
thanks appreciate you anon

Does anyone have one of these active YC adapters from this dude: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325527354295#LISTING_FRAME_MODULE

How's the composite output on these things?

>>9820983
Excuse me?

64 eunuchs are the people who just want to play the same 5 games for the rest of their lives. They're easily amused midwits and naturally this makes them goyslop consumers in other areas of life. They have nothing interesting to say because there's nothing left to say about the only 5 games they've ever enjoyed, yet they continue to blabber on anyway. This is what makes them so hated, it's obnoxious to blabber endlessly about the same old boring shit we've all heard a million times.

64 eunuchs then project and assume the ps1 & Saturn enthusiasts just replay mgs and ff tactics over and over, but actually the they are novelty seekers always looking for a new "hidden gem" to unearth. There's always a new ps1 or saturn game getting translated, or one that flew under your radar because they were shooting games at you like bullets from a gatling gun.

We are not the same at a fundamental level.

>>9822252
Cope.

>>9822315
And yet still better than 64
>>9822318
64 was DOA and only got 5 bing bing wahoos

>>9822338
False.

>>9818938
>FPGA is NOT an emulator, it is a clone.
Ok, bud. Show me a gameboy fpga that supports the nmi and second window. There are none. They're shitty emulators.

>>9823935
>nmi and second window
what are they supposed to be and how would you test for it?

>>9820172
Xbox series S with dev account is cheaper lmfao

>>9821569
which romhack is that?

>>9823953
>what are they supposed to be and how would you test for it?
They were gonna be used for a scrapped feature where you could pop up a palette selection screen in og gb games at any time with a key combo. Nintendo ended up just having you select your palette while the boot screen is playing but the hardware support is still there.

https://twitter.com/LIJI32/status/1287014194697691138

These features can't be used without glitching the hardware to unlock them, but they're still there and not in fpga implementations. So you can't call an fpga a clone if it's missing features of the original hardware.

>>9818938
Wrong. FPGAs are emulation on the hardware level rather than the software level. The software you write for the FPGA is reconfiguring the logic gates on the chip to provide a hardware emulation of the original hardware. An actual clone would be a 1:1 hardware copy of the original die.

>>9818340
The only question is, will it do a better job than ParaLLEl?

>>9823935
>the nmi and second window.
wtf that's a ton of untapped power. that's fascinating

>>9821169
PS1 core doesn't have accurate GPU timing by any stretch of the imagination. It also doesn't matter, so whatever.

>>9824019
It's litetally just semantics. Emulation means imitation, so in that case FPGA is emulating the hardware. But the word emulation has kind of become a dirty word in the general consensus so people don't like calling it that.

>>9824019
WRONG.
FPGAs are mainframe simulators. Only by having significantly more gigacycles are you able to Simulate the mainframe in real time. Hardware emulation would mean the hardware itself reconfigures which would require moving parts.

Tl;dr: Keep your mouth shut if you don't know anything.

>>9823963
It's the latest romhack Kaze is working on called Return to Yoshi's Island, it's not out yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbR8C6svHs

>>9821569
The goal that Kaze said he's trying to meet for the hack is "what if Mario 64 released at the end of the N64's life cycle". From what I've seen most of his performance gains and optimizations aren't necessarily things that would be out of the ordinary for the N64 to handle, just smarter methods of handling calculations and better handling of textures/models/audio. It's totally possible that it could have problems but I don't think there's anything that would be uniquely an issue for it.

>>9824304
I don't care about romhacks but this one is literally one of my most anticipated games

>>9824304
It's a Kaze hack. It's going to be fucking awful but people pretend it's good because he added a ton of custom shit, just like absolutely every other hack he's released on worked on.

>>9824304
oh yeah I played the demo or what not. Mindblowing hack, I really hope it comes out in full soon. The mario bomb cap is so fun and impressive how it's used

>>9818385
your posts are always so obvious you tryhard ninty obsessed freak. What the fuck happened to make you such a bizarre human

>>9821971
u mum been doing it for years

>>9824337
I am not 100% sure but I also think he is cutting out some code that would have been needed for the original Mario 64's levels/gameplay but his romhack does not utilize to also help optimize it further.

>>9824357
>It's going to be fucking awful

His stuff is rarely actually awful, but people definitely rate him far too highly compared to other mod makers for all the gimmicks and polish he puts, in and overlook better hacks with more substance to them.

>>9825331
Unique Tech is far more interesting than your generic mario maker levels.

>>9825474
Star Revenge is better than anything Kaze has made regardless of what crazy tech he cooks up, which tends to be entertaining until whatever gimmick got used wears out its welcome.

>>9825482
>kaizo shit
Fuck off

>>9825482
this sounds dangerously close to how aussie-kun talks about treasure games

I'll ask here since dedicated Mister threads tend to got swamped with shitposting. Is there any way to do video playback on a Mister? Device has been perfect for pretty much everything I want to play on my CRT, I'd love to be able to use it to watch old shows too.

>>9818385
imho, i think the only thing that keeps nintendo alive anymore are coomer's, moeweebs and furry porn artists, plus bitches with basic ass tastes.

>>9826171
>Star Revenge
>kaizo shit

It's amazing the kind of shit nuthuggers who haven't even played what they're trying to shit talk say. I'm specifically recommending the Star Revenge series because it *isn't* kaizo bullshit the vast bulk of the time, and instead has solid level design that does a good job of simultaneously making use of both openness and tight platforming and balancing these two aspects together without responding to bullshit that makes you want to break out tool assists.

>>9826179
Like, I've never played a shmup for score, but you're probably not even wrong here, as the kind of people who love Kaze's hacks above all else are those who barely try anything else and jump onto whatever seems to be praised by other people who barely play the games themselves.

And I'm saying all this as someone with overall massive respect for Kaze's technical skills. As a developer, he's definitely the kind of person who is going to be a great asset to whatever project he's working on, in a way he's something like the equivalent to having a younger Carmack on your dev team. But, as a designer, there are definitely other people working on N64 hacks who have superior 'practical design' sense, and who are more skilled at working with and bringing out the potential of the existing game, and it's a shame the extent to which their work gets overlooked in comparison.

>>9818337
If it can't run the new parallel emulator (and it can't) it's not worth using. It's the only emu that has decent accuracy.

>>9828184
I can't imagine it'd be too difficult for someone to write a MiSTer dedicated video player, considering it doesn't need to be done in FPGA and the ARM part of the chip is probably fine enough to do it. I would've suggested using the AO486 core as a joke but I don't think that core can play on a 15khz CRT

>>9818340
I don't have a mister but you can fuck right off
People are still complaining about N64 emulation

>>9824028
>>9828559
Forgive my autism, but ParaLLEl isn't completely unique, nor is it a whole new emulator, either. ParaLLEl is a low-level N64 graphics renderer/plugin that can be used with any N64 emulator, and versions of it are integrated into or available for Project64, Ares, and several forks of Mupen64Plus. The Angrylion plugin predates it and is just as if not more accurate, but it's much slower and wasn't feasible to use on most PCs until recently (also, no upscaling options). There is a RetroArch core called ParaLLEl, but it's actually just an old, outdated fork of Mupen64Plus that was renamed for publicity purposes by RetroArch's lead dev, and while it does have the ParaLLEl plugin, it's ironically the worst emulator to use it with.

>>9818923
>>9818938
FPGA is an emulator. However, the word emulator has baggage as emulation was for most of the words use refereed to grossly inaccurate software emulation. So whilst FPGA is technically emulation, its not helpful to describe it as such due to the baggage.

Do all FPGA threads devolve to a bunch of poors pretending that FPGAs are just emulation in order to justify their continued usage of shitty PC emulators...?

>>9828613
Do all FPGA threads devolve to a bunch of poors pretending their emulators aren't emulators to justify not using authentic hardware?

>>9818461
There'll be two versions. One on de10nano and another that is more accurate for future hardware.

>>9828184
It has a 800MHz Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and 1GB of DDR3 RAM. Sure, that's an outdated joke compared to even a Raspberry Pi 2 but it should be more than enough to run a video player on, as long as you don't go crazy with the resolution or bitrate. From my understanding the MiSTer just uses the ARM CPU for the UI and a few other non-emulation related tasks.

>>9828559
>"If it can't run this software emulator"

You have no idea what a MiSTer is, do you?

>>9828618
Nah we just think it's neat.

>>9828613
>>9828618
people who care about any of this spend hours a day talking about it and zero hours playing the actual games. I'm pretty sure people who play gba romhacks on their laptop with the arrow keys actually enjoy games more than people in these threads.

Mister looks good on my CRT and my PC doesn’t. Simple as

>>9829836
This.

>>9820578
Fair enough but my laptop can also play Armored Core 1-4A with a controller, I just prefer to do it on my Deck. The Deck is the best way to play video games that aren't warframe.

>>9828604
This, maybe zoomers don't realize but emulators were pretty trash until 8 years ago or so. Emulation was synonymous with playing games with input lag, screen tearing, incorrect scaling etc. It got a bad rep.

>>9828184
Much easier to just use a pi with composite out for that

>>9818448
Haha okay, show me full and proper speed and sound in Knife's Edge and Body Harvest on a DE10. I'll wait, if I don't die first.

>>9830236
i remember when we used to think ZSNES was the same as the real deal. but in hindsight, you can humanly tell how bad it is.
At least with snes9x and higan, i dont think a human can reasonable tell them apart (i still prefer FPGA though, but im willing to admit i only notice input lag and nothing else)

>>9830314
Hell. Show me Perfect Dark and Conker running full speed with no glitches, something done in emulators for years, on your shitbox. I highly doubt it can get further than Mario 64 even if it cheats its ass off.

>>9818923
>heh, it promises to be more accurate, checkm8 emufags
>i-it doesn't matter
Absolute schizophrenia.

>>9821996
Several N64 games and anecdotal evidence don't constitute an N64 replacement.

>>9818938
>FPGA is NOT an emulator, it is a clone.
Oh boy, here we go...

>>9830341
Trust me a DE10 powered Mister won't be it either. Farrrr from it. A decent PC using Parallel is the best you'll have til someone shits out a better FPGA standard.

>>9830341
You're right and the emulation from 2005 was relatively shitty, but Parallel + Mupen and Ares are nearly indistinguishable from hardware at stock settings these days. Barring Knife's Edge and Body Harvest of course.

>>9830327
>At least with snes9x and higan, i dont think a human can reasonable tell them apart (i still prefer FPGA though, but im willing to admit i only notice input lag and nothing else)
Agree and same. I prefer FPGA but, I don't notice differences. Even input lag can be low enough in emulation now thanks to Retroarch that I can't tell, maybe only if I switch back and forth.

>>9830346
Parallel sucks. It's still tied to horrendous plugins from the old age. Ares is the future of N64 emulation. It already runs games better than Parallel.

>>9822679
LMAO

>>9830384
They're both in about the same place, really, and both use Parallel tech. Let's not split hairs. The point is they're miles better than what current FPGA hardware will ever achieve.

>>9830525
How would you know that for certain though? Even with footage of his emulator I don't know if you can definitively call it one way or the other yet.

>>9830327
>>9830382
I can tell the mister core from higan and bsnes. I get video stutter when scrolling horizontally with every snes emulator I've tried. I always thought it was slowdown that was present in OG hardware.

I'm gonna make a video showing what I'm talking about. all I gotta do is run back and forth at the crono trigger millenium fair. and I'll show how no setting fixes this without introducing v-tearing or audio glitches.

can the mister suddenly invent games for the n64, because if not I'd rather they put that effort towards something else

>>9830682
>I get video stutter when scrolling horizontally with every snes emulator I've tried
Gotta use Retroarch. It's the only way to emulate anything properly.

>>9829836
Pretty much. It's pricey as fuck but it's a clean setup and a nice AIO device for gaming on a CRT. I'd rather just have my Mister plugged into my CRT than have my Famicom, Super Famicom, Genesis and Playstaion plugged in on a switcher. Plus it has the bonus of handheld cores so I don't need to use GBi on my Gamecube as well as Arcade games. Had my friend over the other night and we went through all of Bubble Bobble together and had a great time. Been discovering the PC Engine library too.

>>9830384
The ParaLLEl-N64 core does suck. The Mupen64Plus-Next core running the ParaLLEl plugins, however, is great. TwinAphex naming that shitty-ass core after the ParaLLEl plugins was retarded as fuck and leads people to believe the shittier of the two cores is the better one, and he refuses to get rid of it because he knows it would be admitting he fucked up.

>>9831205
Nah, it's shit. Timings are fucked. I have no hopes for that core. I'm following Ares and that's definitely where N64 emulation is going too. Hope it gets a RA core.

>>9831376
Ares's timings aren't that great at the moment either. Simple64 currently has the best, but still not perfect by any means. Potentially, though, ares does have the most potential simply by virtue of being accuracy-focused from its inception, whereas Mupen and its forks have to deal with all the cruft and hacks that have accumulated over the decades, with simple64 being the fork that has done the most to try to rid itself of them.

>>9829836
>A native 15khz signal looks better than a 31khz signal adapted to a 15khz signal
no shit

>>9831656
>His graphics card can't output 15khz
Fail

>>9831695
What graphics cards output 15khz?

>>9831698
I use a 980ti. No transcoding needed.

can anyone vouch for samsung evo sd cards for mister? They seem like good value.

>>9831763
Samsung EVO cards are all pretty good quality. I've used them before for 3DS hacking, Switch hacking and retro handhelds. Personally I use a 'SanDisk Extreme PRO 512GB' which has given me 0 issues and 512gb is absolutely more than enough unless you really feel like you need a complete romset of every single system the mister is compatible with.

>>9831774
Thanks. I usually go with sandisk, but the samsung cards at 512gb are nearly half the price where I'm looking.

>>9831763
Not using a mister but use flashcarts
Samsung EVO's tend to have slow startup times from my experience, tends to cause issues in disc games and loading new areas

>>9830682
I don't know how the MiSTer does it but I'm pretty sure that stutter issue is what's explained here
https://higan.readthedocs.io/en/v104/faq/
I think I remember hearing that Mister supports VRR in certain cores so maybe that applies here, and if you're using the analog output on a CRT then VRR wouldn't matter
>>9830685
There's more than one FPGA dev, you'll be fine. I'm currently waiting on more news from Jotego's CPS3 core honestly

>>9822647
It's a legitimate question. Did you shit your pants while typing such drivel?

>>9831763
They're good. Make sure they're legit. There were Chinese clones for 64gb and up from a while ago.

Is there any way to make certain Mister cores work when a USB drive is plugged in? I got my prebuilt Mister just yesterday and when I tried today playing games from my USB stick some cores like NeoGeo and PSX had stopped working, not even the initial boot screen for PSX had been launching. It took me a while to figure that the presence of the stick was the cause. Some others cores like NES, SNES and Megadrive kept working fine with the USB stick present.

>>9833210
I don't have that issue. Maybe it's your power supply? The standard one that comes with the DE-10 is a bit weak

>>9833284
Figured it out. With the stick plugged in the cores look for the bios files within their games folders on the stick while completely ignoring their presence in the main installation. I copied the bios files there and they started to work.

>>9833317
Oh, cool, that's actually good to know.

I cant seem to find much about it but does anyone here have an Everdrive 64 x7 and know why I get jpeg errors when trying to change the background?

>>9833317
yeah you dont want to split folders between drives. you can have snes folder on one drive and psx folders on another, but you shouldnt have a psx or snes folder on both

>>9833284
It's usually a good bet to just buy a 5v 5a DC power supply for it and just never worry about power related issues

>>9818390
He'll make a full core on a more advanced platform, then probably take out the extra features. I doubt there will be room for save states on the MiSTer N64 core. I'd love to be wrong though. Still, there will be accurate open source FPGA N64 core source code when all is said and done.

>>9831814
youd be better off setting up a RetroNAS really in that scenario.

What the fuck happened to the hardware being too weak

in 10 years someone is gonna shit out a dreamcast core and go uhhhhh actually no we lied

>>9837384
People get better at squeezing out more and more from the hardware, just like late-gen console games vs launch era games. That being said, accuracy is being sacrificed here just to make it fit and it's still not clear if it will be a feasible with even dual-RAM outside of the like two games that it's been demoed with so far (and they were not even running at full speed, Mario Kart 64's video was sped up).

This is half trying to make a N64 MiSTer core and half trying to both make a cycle-accurate N64 software emulator while also laying down the groundwork for an accurate FPGA N64 core for any possible future FPGA more powerful than the one in the DE-10 Nano that can handle it.

So even if it ends up not being possible in the long run to get the entire N64 library working properly on the MiSTer it still can result in a cycle-accurate N64 software emulator (... for future CPUs as well since currently no consumer CPU can handle it at full speed) and an accurate N64 FPGA core that can be ready to go for any viable future FPGA that the MiSTer project can be migrated over to.

>>9837346
or just use Sandisk SD cards or non EVO samsung cards

>>9831814
My understanding is that flashcarts tend to be more picky about sd cards than mister.

>>9837946
Sure, I'm just noting that initial seek times may be a factor that I've only come across on those SD cards

>>9837384
it probably is too weak. Even as talented as Peip is I have doubts he's actually going to get this working on MiSTer. The main goals of the project is to make a decent N64 software emulator as well as getting it at least coded in FPGA so it can be ported to something more powerful later down the line.

Full software N64 emulation is going to be a big, big undertaking. The Angrylion RDP plugin is fully software rendered, and it was only thanks to multi-threading techniques that it even became feasible to use on regular CPUs, and even then some games struggle on relatively good CPUs, which is why the ParaLLEl-RDP plugin was such a game changer. Couple that with a cycle accurate core, and I just don't see anything running such a thing at full speed for a while.

>>9837593
N64 has slow as molasses RAM. Robert said it'll be fine.

>>9839916
Wasn't the N64's RAM speed stupidly blazing fast for it's time?

>>9839971
No, quite the contrary. It was famous for it's awful RAM

>>9839282
its funny how such a shit console with shit looking games takes so much processing power to accurately emulate

>>9840013
N64 is kino hardware and had beatiful games.

>>9840263
>>9839996
>>9839916


Yo, stop samefagging

>>9840480
Good catch, but I'm not 'samefagging', I'm just scrolling down and replying to stuff I see in the bottom. If you check the posts they're pretty far apart.

>>9839971
It was pretty high bandwidth but also high latency. Which means "can be fast if you use it right, but can be slow if you use it wrong".

>>9818956
Well can your mister play ps2 on a go with any Bluetooth or wired controller you want?

If im in the mood autistically accurate stuff i just play on original consoles. Mister will only have any purpose for me once I cant use those.

>>9840480
>retarded tourist don't know what a samefag is

>>9818337
no one cares about n64 outside its niche