/vr/ - Retro Games

whittu piggu go homu

Too big, no jarpigs, not japanese

Because ekuso = iee and maru = hai

Buy Eksubaksu it’s just rike hambaga

no mexicans/black people

>>9816652
that was less than 30 years ago, Bill Gates has aged like shit for a wealthy person. Just hire a personal trainer and get on a nutrition plan you creepy fuck

>>9816652
sony and nintendo turf

>>9816652
Xenophobia is the main reason. Japanese people would buy a playstation made out of actual dog poop before supporting a foreign console.

no games
never ever billy boy

>>9816652
U.S. console, Bill Gates and the name itself because X in Japan means "don't want" or "cancel".

>>9816701
mexicans and blacks bought the ps2

Original Xbox had plenty of Japanese AND Western games. In fact it often had the best versions too. To be completely blunt? Xbox frankly was a better machine than PS2 in terms of power and potential. The problem was that the whole world was firmly on the PlayStation train by that point. The PlayStation brand was so hype in the early 2000s, and it had the lion's share of consumers and developers. We had already seen a fallen Sega and a declining Nintendo in this same era. I don't exactly love Microsoft or anything, but the fact that they did meaningfully counterattack against PlayStation by the mid-2000s was unexpected.

>>9816870
retard

If PS2 conjures images of Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water, Xbox always makes me think of Brutalist Soviet buildings, it has that same need to project brute strength. There was a period during the 1960's when that blocky Brutalist style was even popular in the West but it's been out for awhile.

>>9816870
>>9816887
He's right tho. PS2 was the console of the ghetto and poor.

>>9816851
They were that close to calling it 'The O-Machine' but they chickened out at the last minute.

>>9816838
and yet people their buy Apple products all the time, watch American TV shows and movies. Maybe it's just that Microsoft has a difficult time reaching Japan (besides OS software and other things). They have never had a foothold in the console space in the country, and I doubt they ever will.

>>9816938
I have the memory card version of that. Got all my 100% TR saves in there.

>>9816905
No, just the majority of people

>>9816938
You need to understand that 2023 japan is extremely pozzed compared to late 90s early 2000s. Disney was a huge part of it and then apple was the full blown aids.

>>9816872
>To be completely blunt? Xbox frankly was a better machine than PS2 in terms of power and potential.
Everyone knew the Xbox was way more powerful than the GC or PS2, but there weren't too many real exlusives that made you NEED the machine beyond Halo 2 (since Halo CE was on pc). And I like Halo 2, but I don't need to buy a console for that, I just played it on 360 which was a much better deal in terms of a console.

Same problem the current Xbone has: the vast majority of their "exclusives" weren't actually exclusive, they were on PC too. The 360 learned from this by instead focusing on being a multiplat machine where the games almost always ran better on it than they did on PS3, but that's not retro.

>>9816931
>The O

>>9816652
Actual, unironic reason? It was too big for its time. Like people joke about XBOX HUEG but have you ever actually looked at one lately, you could kill a man with that thing, it was almost the size of a PS3 in a time when people weren't used to consoles being big yet. And Japanese homes are small. And more importantly, it's kinda ugly and it cannot be understated how much Japan values aesthetics. They like small, compact things.

>>9817285
THE O, WHY WON'T YOU MOVE SALES?!

>>9816669
>no jarpigs
It has an exclusive SMT

>>9817278
Halo 2 was on PC too.

>>9817320
Yeah on VISTA

>>9816652
No shmups or VNs.

>>9816779
Your body will literally fall apart by the time you get to that age. No amount of food or physio will fix decay.

>>9817354
Why do so many cyclists and other cardio freaks age well if that were true? Computer nerds age like milk in the summer sun.

>>9817323
You can patch it to work on XP

>>9817363
Do they? I haven't noticed. Bruce Lee was a walking muscle and still croaked young.

>>9817371
Yeah he ego lifted for a woman and then overdosed on random pills someone gave him after herniating something in his spine.

>>9817376
Bruce Lee died from a drug overdose. It's well known at this point. The aspirin PR spin was said, not mess with is reputation at the time. It didn't help conspricy theories kick in after thee situations. He also over dosed while having an affair. It was very complicated. Shame it happened to him and his son. They died far too young.

>>9817371
>Bruce Lee was a walking muscle and still croaked young.
He didn't die of natural causes so that's kind of a pointless comparison

In a time when people normally didn't buy multiple consoles, Nintendo and Sony were better bets for JP customers to ensure they got games from JP devs. Fighting Nintendo and Sony, especially PS1-PS2 Era Sony, on their home turf sounds like a waste of marketing and publishing money.

>>9816652
Too big. Foreign console. People already had a PS2 they didn't see a reason to get an xbox with a smaller library. Xbox library was mostly games which were superior on the PC or had inferior PS2 versions.

>>9816851
Yet the band X (who later called themselves X Japan due to some gay LA band) are the most popular band in Japan. Doesn't make sense.

>>9816931
They still should have went with that. Anything is better than calling it Xbox in Japan.

>>9817607
Interesting fact. I guess Japan didn't care when it comes to bands.

>>9817607
X (the American band) is better than visual kei weebshit.

>>9817302
>it's kinda ugly and it cannot be understated how much Japan values aesthetics. They like small, compact things.
Xbox was basic/decent compared to what we have today. PS5 is a hideous monstrosity, especially lined up with PS2 and PS4 under my TV.

It's the library.
Biggest game on Xbox was Halo. Guess what? First-person shooters just don't appeal to the Japanese. Microsoft tried to get Japanese developers on the Xbox, and they got some decent games, but they just didn't get any hits.
Japanese are willing to buy foreign stuff if it's clearly better: just look at how Windows PCs eventually pushed out PC98, or how foreign smartphones virtually wiped out the Japanese phone industry. But for the Xbox, it's just slightly more powerful than the PS2 and there weren't many compelling games.

>>9817316
Yes, one jarpig is enough reason to choose it over the ps2

>>9816652
Why is he holding a hamburger? Is it to make him look more american?

>>9816652
Why did it fail in any other country it failed in?

>>9817954
Well it failed in Uganda because they could not compete with pirated games and previous console generations being cheaper.

>>9817849
>First-person shooters just don't appeal to the Japanese
I was in Japan last month, and Apex Legends and Valorant are still incredibly popular over there. They're not averse to first person shooters, it's just that there's not many good FPS games made by Japanese studios.

>>9816652
Because Microsft is retarded, they took a media made for kids, mzde games for "mature" people in order to have their own identity and forgot the fact that 90% of people like colorful/fun things. All their gmes looked like Halo which is both ugly and repetitive and Microsoft was rightfully rekt in the end.

>>9816652
Japanese people live in 4x4m apartment rooms, there just isn't enough space for an Xbox

>>9818332
>forgot the fact that 90% of people like colorful/fun things. All their gmes looked like Halo which is both ugly and repetitive
I agree, Halo's drab colour scheme really didn't pop as much as Japan's own Resident Evil 4

Not enough japanese games.

who cares
of what possible interest could this be to anyone

>>9816652
The better question is how could it possibly have succeed at all. Rhetorical questions should be bannable.

>>9817747
The key difference is there was never anything as big as the Xbox before, if anything it got people used to the idea that a console is allowed to be big. Which is funnier because it's still bigger than a 360 or a slim PS3.

It was also expensive on release, being the equivalent today of 500 bucks. Granted the PS2 cost the same price but the PS2 also had way more shit at launch that appealed to japanese gamers.

>>9818332
What? Have you looked at Halo 1 lately, it uses really bright colors a lot

>>9817354

But the 360 was literally just shmups and VNs in Japan and that still failed.

>>9818925
Nta but I blame that on the stigma the original xbox had there carrying over because in terms of multiplats, 90% of them ran better on the 360 than the PS3, and that was THE multiplat generation.

>>9817607
The Jap band is the one that's gay. They were basically a hair metal band and Hide was faggy as fuck; accidentally killed himself while doing some degenerate shit. Now they're just old and ugly so their glam is gone.

>>9817302

>>9818994
Yes. which just shows how much the times have changed. Also the PS5 reminds one of Kaiba's jacket in yu-gi-oh. so it's autoatically /fa/ as fuck

>>9816652
Cause they can’t say the damn word. >Eksa bahksaruu
Fuckin retards

>>9817668
(You), (the American butthurt anon), are worse than any japanese posters. :)

>>9819021
How am I the butthurt one when you reeee'd over X Japan being forced to change their name unprompted?

>>9817320
This came out when Vista released, years after the console version release. With the only reason it even existed was to sell Vista.

>>9817747
Hey now, give PS5 a chance.

>>9817316
And the PS2 has many exclusive SMTs, along with Persona lmao.

>>9818994
Wasn't the PS5 made by Americans?

>>9817930
>>9819262
Why is everything a console war? I wasn't claiming the Xbox was a JRPG powerhouse that rivalled the PS2's library. I was merely refuting the falsehood that it had literally zero JRPGs.

>>9816652
>Why did Xbox fail in Japan?
<Why did Xbox fail everywhere?

>>9816652
no legacy presence or big IP

>>9818921
You're dealing with a senile autist who thinks everything that isn't Spyro is "brown and bloom". Many such cases!

>>9817668
>>9818939
I hate anime, and I hate all visual kei bands that came out after X. But punk generally sucks and is one of the least talented genres of music. Not liking Metal bands just because they're considered "glam" is pretty retarded and tryhard poser faggotry however. Especially since the first 3 X Japan albums are all pretty much speed metal records with a few random ballads to make yellow pussy wet. For what it's worth Vanishing Vision is way heavier than anything by Razor. Not even a huge X fan myself, so I won't defend anything else they did cause I'd rather listen to more obscure J-Metal bands like Genocide (both bands named Genocide) or Tabbasa.
Seikima-II is better than anything mentioned though.

>>9819284
The only JRPG I played on the Xbox was Paper Mario through Surreal64. Killer menu music that emulator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLFXugmVYT8

>>9818778
6th gen would have been much better. Many textures were compressed shitty for PS2 and were thrown out. Emulation can't fix that.

>>9819396
Second one was more important and could have overcome "No legacy presence". Japan support was something Seamus Blackley and Ed Fries really tried as well but it. They wanted Sega and Dreamcast back compat, Steve Ballmer said no because Ballmer was afraid of it being the "Next 3DO" and didn't want it associated with a "failed brand" at the start. They wanted Squaresoft and even got to the final stages of negotiation till Square doubled the price at the last moment. Microsoft bailed on them after that. Capcom and Shinji Mikami approached MS about the Capcom 5 but Microsoft sent representatives from MS Japan who had no clue what they were doing and Shinji Mikami walked out on the meeting. It was just a mess. They did get support from Sega (MS signed a big 10 game exclusive deal with Sega), Tecmo and MS were willing to give smaller at the time Japan studios like From Software and Artoon a shot. But they never broke through. There was just a lot of missed opportunities and things not working out when it came to Japan that they didn't have the software to attract a Japanese audience.

>>9816872
>The problem was that the whole world was firmly on the PlayStation train by that point.
That and people thought Xbox was just a PC with a special OS. There was some stigma attached to it because of that as people thought different means better for some reason.
>>9820278
If they got Square and Capcom on board I think they might have won the 6th gen.

>>9816657
This but also it was hueg and horizontal, a poor fit for Japanese apartments.

>>9820287
I don't think Japanese would use vertical consoles. Earthquake would knock those off.
Hell I've never seen anyone use vertical consoles. That's for advertising only.

>>9816652
Because Japan are a logical people and they see an anime villain when it's in front of them.

Fuck Bill Gates, I hope he gets shot

>>9816652
>Why did Xbox fail in Japan?
You just posted the reason. That image alone doomed Xbox. Imagine opening a newspaper or magazine and seeing this cringy ad. Why is the world's richest man holding a burger and the controller at the same time? Is he also selling burgers now? Does he play games and eat burgers in his living room while wearing a suit? Is he insulting our intelligence by equating the Xbox as the next big thing since the introduction of burgers to our country?

>>9816905
like the 360?

>>9820725
it means he is an Americajin

>>9820947
You're correct for that gen, but we're talking the one before.

>>9816652
Not enough games catered to their market. But then, they aren't doing too bad in Japan now.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/for-the-first-time-in-8-years-xbox-outsold-playstation-in-japan-last-week/

>>9819283
Mark Cerny and Sony in the US were behind PS4 and PS5.

>>9816652
How well did Atari do?

This is just a random aside but what exactly did Microsoft DO to make so many people hate them? I know people shit on windows but windows basically follows the zelda formula where people eventually love everything but whatever the most current one is. And I get why companies don't like MS because it doesn't believe in competition and will just buy out anyone that can make a better mousetrap. But what did they do that made gamers mad at them?

>>9823967
They successfully dragged the entire video game industry down to their level. They charged an extra fee for playing online games, and Sony and Nintendo followed suit. They pushed DLC to the point where it started ruining games, and Sony and Nintendo followed suit. About the only terrible decision they've made that hasn't caught on was the Red Ring of Death. That particular fuck up was so bad it required that unique Microsoft touch.
The low standards of their users who put up with the way Microsoft mistreats them become the standards for the entire industry. You can pin the blame on the company or their enablers; either way, they've been a blight on gaming for two decades running.

>>9824169
I disagree, because while all of those are bad, I don't think that's what caused the visceral hatred of them. I think it's because they share a lot of the blame for gaming becoming more mainstream and bringing in the dudebros when this used to be a hobby of nerds.

>>9823967
>But what did they do that made gamers mad at them?
Discs being scratches just by playing. proprietary HDD. 2.5mm headphone jak (again proprietary shit). Red ring of death. Design issues. Battery not included with controllers.
As for the real reason, you're starting from the wrong place. Microsoft was hated before entering to gaming thoroughly during the 90s. Their image actually improved a bit during Xbox era. There were many lawsuits and things of that nature against Microsoft.

>>9823967
for me it's their insane mismanagement of halo

There just isn't a single game that peaks my interest on XBOX except from two ports of PS2 games because they have extra content.

I bought an XBOX like a decade ago and still the only game I have is Genma Onimusha. AND I had to get an adaptor to use a PS2 pad to play it because the XBOX pad was atrocious for it.

>>9824408
My point being, if the Japanese are like and like video games, they have very little reason to like the XBOX.

>>9817354
He's also a trans FtM and the former wife was a MtF. They age badly from the massive hormone infusions.

>>9820725
>Is he insulting our intelligence by equating the Xbox as the next big thing since the introduction of burgers to our country?
Lots of good reasons given to OP in this thread, but I don't think yours is one of them. Howaito piggy is often used to hock products in Japan, even if they are only sold domestically such as pic related. Crystal something. David Bowie, from my country, did several ads for it and was required to do little more than to look at the camera. It's like when the US president makes a gaffe abroad - who cares, its the fucking president, man.

>>9816652
I'M BILL GATES

SON OF A BITCH JAPANESE

JAPANESE IS PIG

DO YOU WANT A PEAK TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED SOCIETY?

DO YOU WANT A LOLI HAREM?

JAPANESE IS PIG DISGUSTING

SHIGERU MIYAMOTO IS A MURDERER

FUCKING NIPPONESE

I never got the "it's too big" argument

like the original xbox is big but it's not that much bigger than a PS2. Even if you lived in a shack you could make room for one

Sony paid to keep Xbox buried for 20+ years

>>9823967
Microsoft's business dealings in the mid-late 90s were ruthless and it almost got broken up by antitrust boards.
>>9824169
>They charged an extra fee for playing online games, and Sony and Nintendo followed suit.
Sega did that one first.
Making timed exclusives standard was my least favorite MS practice.
Otherwise, Microsoft has always had a problem understanding that "no means no". Don't want Edge as your default browser? Microsoft will second-guess for you. Don't want the new thing Microsoft added to Outlook that eats a part of the window? Too bad, you can't turn it off. Want to turn modern standby off so your laptop doesn't cook itself in a bag while the lid is closed? Too bad, Microsoft forced Modern Standby and strong-armed Intel into removing S3 sleep from their chipsets entirely.

In terms of Xbox, the 360 was Microsoft on top of their game. The timing was perfect. Sony had become complacent and pretentious and expected dev studios to eat all the time and overhead learning a new proprietary architecture all over again.
PS5 is equally pretentious - giant, expensive, pricey games. I'd rather buy a Series X than a PS5, and probably take a Switch over Series X.

>>9816669

This plus no moeshit neither If you don't cater to the hikki-coom-oris your console will bomb in Salaryman-land

>>9816652
It's probably because they had PS2. There was no real point in buying an Xbox if you had PS2, even in the states.

>>9824395
>Discs being scratches just by playing.
Eh I was kinda used to that just from playing pc games.

>>9826149
>In terms of Xbox, the 360 was Microsoft on top of their game. The timing was perfect. Sony had become complacent and pretentious and expected dev studios to eat all the time and overhead learning a new proprietary architecture all over again.
What I don't get is, when you stack up the 360 specs vs the ps3 specs, PS3 wins in basically every category but GPU, and yet the multiplats always ran better on 360.

>>9826448
- Memory management was horrible on the PS3
- Slower data access unless you use HDD install options
- Slower memory bandwith (IIRC)

>>9826448
Cell was an unusual CPU and it was expensive to develop for. Only a few developers really mastered it, and those were for the most part internal studios like SCE Santa Monica and Naughty Dog or 2nd parties like Insomniac.

Was Melinda gates a swinger ?

>>9816652
They got the Rock to promote it instead of a japanese wrestler.

>>9819262
>Muh Persona
Persona 3 didn't come out until 7th Gen

>>9816938
>watch American TV shows and movies.
They absolutely don't watch American TV Shows
Movies sure

>>9817264
Japan were always Disneyfags zoomzoom

>>9828289
Not in an entire-file though. There still are Japanese who prefer their Ghibli, MAPPA, Gainax, and Toei among others over Disney and WB stuff

>>9824408
>Not liking Gunvalkyrie or Panzer Dragoon Orta
Get a load of this poser

>>9825540
The Duke Controller was huge
But the 360 failed anyways so it's not the reason

>>9828270
They should have promoted it with cute sexy white european chicks
Japs are terminal coomers

>>9823632
Have Apple IIGS released in Japan? Could sworn I saw a commercial?

>>9828309
Bro, Disney World is huge over there
Walt Disney is popularly referred to as the Father or God of Anime over there

Just look at old Toei films(which were 3rd rate Disney knock-off) and classic Disney films and you'll see which was more influential on current day anime
Alice from Disney's Alice which came out in 1951 looks way more like Anime of today than say Miyazaki's waifu Princess Bai Niang from Toei's The White Snake Enchantress(1958).

Alice was loli and moe before the Japs knew what the fuck loli and moe was.
It's absurd how ahead Disney was and how it took Anime decades to make anime girls that cute.

Without Disney Anime would literally not be the way it is today

>>9823967
everything you see wrong with the tech industry and our relationship with that same technology, nearly 95% of the time, ties back to Microsoft pulling the strings.

>>9816652
In Japan, handheld consoles sold the most. Gaming on the go is bigger in Japan compared to other countries. This is more likely because people spend a lot commuting and traveling.

people hated microsoft in late 90s early 2000s

>>9817385
What drug?

>>9829348
People still do.

>>9828270
>sony badge on the tv covered in xbox stickers

>>9828270
I wonder why Bill Gates chose Bayman?

>>9832831
Why did Rock chose Hayabusa?

>>9834010
izuna drop