/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263#p9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
Still kicking
Deadline: May 31st

=== NEWS ===
[4-2] What is Health? RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134785

[4-2] Raze 1.7.0 released
https://github.com/ZDoom/Raze/releases/tag/1.7.0

[4-2] Anon shares a map about finding the lost 94 Protons release build
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vww5Y1FKFayLAN3mDGuOdbTg5WMIjZf_/view?usp=share_link

[4-1] Cripsy 6.0 released, now supporting Strife
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/tag/crispy-doom-6.0

[4-1] Slade updated to 3.2.2.
https://github.com/sirjuddington/SLADE/releases/tag/3.2.2

[4-1] VALORANT: Antivax Edition released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134769

[3-28] Doom Master Wadazine #20 is out
https://wadazine.com/portofolio/

[3-23] Temporal Tantrum is out on Idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/temp_tantrum

[3-23] TrenchBroom 2023.1 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2023.1

[3-18] Anon shares his widescreen Heretic graphics
https://files.catbox.moe/buu3ix.zip

[3-18] La Tailor Girl updated to v1.89
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1238204#p1238204

[3-17] New Ironwail just dropped
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail

[3-14] Half-Life MMOD released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1761270/HalfLife_MMod/

[3-14] vkQuake updated to 1.30.0
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases

[3-14] Rampancy 2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67193

[3-10] MM8BDM updated
https://cutstuff.net/forum/index.php?topic=11983.0

[3-8] New GZDoom shooter, Captain Wayne - Vacation Desperation demo released
https://ciaran-games.itch.io/wayne

[3-7] Duke 2008 model leaked
https://rentry.org/x0r_jmp

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>>9792498
>retarded weird bethesda

>>9792498

>>9792498
>Ammo maybe nice
Well it certainly helps
Also, good god the Halo shitposting last thread. I know it's technically retro these days but doesn't it have its own threads?

>>9792524
>Everything I don't like is shitposting

ohai

Guy having issues with my shitty laptop and Underdark Overbright here:
Thank you to whoever said I should try r_fastsky 1, a few threads ago. It fixed my issue and now I can complete the mapset.

>>9792527
Arguing over nothing and dick waving IS shitposting, anon. It doesn't take a genius to work out that one or more of those people were here in bad faith and trying to cause a shitstorm.

>>9792498

>>9792535
Thanks for the heads up, i remember having to drop that because a map randomly started having horrible FPS.
The weird thing is i can play Tears Of A False God with way better performance, something about UO is just wrong.

> April started 3 days ago
> no new DBP release yet

what happened?

>>9792570
Same. I can play giant levels with no issue, but the moment there are exposed areas with tons of the generic Quake 1 sky my machine shits itself.
On the subject of UO I was disappointed to find Cthon was the last boss. It felt more like an appitizer for the true final level, but I guess not.

>Telefragged level in Rubicon Rumble Pack
I have mixed feelings on this gimmick. It's a cool concept, that the enemy knew you were coming and trapped the teleporter to mutate you into a useless pacifist Spawn or something.
But it's also a stealth section in Quake. Also, the way forward isn't obvious and you're weak and useless for slightly too long. At least you can get some really powerful guns from the very start if you retrace your steps once you're human again.

>>9792594
Deadline extended a month due to 40oz's computer problems. It might also be changing to bi-monthly for good.

>>9792693
It would have been funny if he pulled a TimeOfDeath and made some 10 minute speedmap and called it DBP58: Technical Difficulties then renamed the real DBP58 to DBP59 to keep the monthly releases going

>>9792698
Would have worked great for April Fools, too. Ah well.

>>9792674
>trapped the teleporter to mutate you into a useless pacifist Spawn or something
wait what the fuck?

>>9792498
>halo threatening to overtake doom and quake
History repeats itself.
>>9792535
I ran into something similar for ViolentRumble’s Clock Tower: The performance and FPS is terrible for some reason. Wasn’t acting up at all the last time I played it on an older PC, I’ll test your solution later.

>>9792716
I actually like her more than HDoom's Imp.
>>9792718
Yeah, Telefragged's first ten minutes are WEIRD. There's also a reason why (as far as I know) nobody else has bothered with this kind of thing in their maps. It's extremely annoying and you have no idea where you're going, plus you have 10% health so a grunt so much as looking at you will be fatal.
Once you find the healing station and regain the ability to pick up weapons, heal and jump things get much, much better.

>>9792762
>>halo threatening to overtake doom and quake
Pretty sure it was an attempted raid by some discord or /v/ guys, personally. It was telling that we suddenly had people bringing it up out of nowhere AND being hyper aggressive over anyone disliking it.

>>9792791
Or maybe people who play one FPS game have also played another game in the same genre and don't mind talking about it? I don't see why this is such a hard concept for you to understand.

>>9792804
I don't see why the fans had to be spiteful little shits about it, but here we are.

>>9792807
I don't see why posts like >>9788750 claiming they speak for the entire thread have to be made either, but here we are.

>Bringing back drama from the previous thread
Don't engage with it you idiots.

>>9792515
Haha, those are my maps!

>>9792817
>Being this bent out of shape over a post from last thread
>Trying to bring another fight into the next thread over it
And you expect us to believe you're not a troll. Fuck this, I'm not engaging with this nonsense anymore.

>>9792473
Black Mesa outclasses the original Half-Life so much it's unreal

>>9792498
>probably already almost dead

>forever since fully decompiled
>Still no source port

REEEEEDDEE

>>9792820
Im not a part of that discussion, but really, simply somebody saying they dislike a game or its effect on the industry shouldnt be considered "drama". Its okay for people to not to be positive all the time.

>>9792473
I would watch this movie. Especially if it’s played entirely straight except for Pratt just being bat shit just like in the pic.

>>9792528
>Do you wanna learn more about our mommy Shub-Niggurath?

Oh god, I didn't check out the Telefragged enemy count until now. There's almost 900 enemies in this base. I swear, if the map repeats the starting gimmick around the half way point I'm going to be so annoyed.

>>9792921
These threads are normally comfy and a good place to discuss stuff like Doom and Quake. Having a couple of idiots take a pissing contest like it's a thread in that trashfire main videogames board really sucks.

>>9792898
I’m fairly satisfied with the 1964 emulation and mouse support, although some more difficulty customization and map tools way down the road would always be nice. It’s a decent companion game to Deus Ex in my desu.

>>9792693
It's impressive enough that they've put out mostly good stuff at typically a monthly basis. Don't see bimonthly being a negative thing, maybe they'll put more work and polish into them and they'll turn out a lot better.

>>9792718
Anon's slightly confused there. You're not a Spawn, you're mostly gibbed. From the way the docs are worded it's a change to telefragging itself in RRP, but I don't know if you could set it off anywhere in co-op or just as scripted.

>>9793039
Oh. Yeah, I was confused. I assumed the spawns in the boxes are the other marines who attempted to attack the facility, since everyone is being tortured and such.
Still weird how fast you can move for a mangled piece of meat.

Did 3drealms reveal any new info about Ion Fury : Aftershock? All I really want to know is if the project is still alive..

The Quake 2 25th Collaborative Anniversary UNIT is now in OPEN TESTING!
Load it down from here to give it a go:
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/UNITESTING.zip

To attempt it, you need the .PAKs from the missionpaks GROUND ZERO & REKTENING, but remember to rename one of them to pak1.pak to avoid overwritings.
And once you have it stalled into a separate folder under Quake 2's root folder, start it by using this:

+set game FOLDERNAME +skill 0 +map techbase0

P.S. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL RELEASE BUT REALLY CLOSE

>>9793179
Is this source port restricted, or will it work with anything?

>>9793179
>>9792473
>>9792474
FIX THIS SHIT ON THE NEWS!

>>9793141
They revealed that like 2 people are working on it in their spare time. Unironically.

They probably moved everybody over to that 3D game full time. Aftershock is still being "worked on" but I imagine very very very slowly. Don't hold your breathe.

Is there anything better than a big room filled with weak enemies to mow down?

>>9793301
A rocket launcher to do it with.

>>9793306
That fight is to get a rocket launcher, but I agree.
A Quake map is pretty much over for the enemy once you have one in most cases. It may look like a boring rusty piece of shit, but it causes so much damage.

>>9793141
There was a neat blogpost about standard Ion Fury with a promise of more Aftershock news coming "soon".
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/view/3664276023011887311
>>9793215
Voidpoint still works on it and Slipgate devs have nothing to do with it. That's just not the main job for pretty much every developer there.

>>9792898
*97.84 decompiled
The remaining functions aren't byte matching but are close enough to get the game running right.
Hopefully a PC port/editor is made by the person currently decompiling the game once done.

>>9793328

>>9793179
FUCK yes.
>>9793194
>Is this source port restricted, or will it work with anything?
Seconding this question.
>>9793301
>>9793306
Feels nice.

is there a way to turn off custom huds in ironwail? i prefer the modern hud look but mods override it.

>>9793427
>cl_nocsqc 1
You may need to reload a save or restart the game for it to work.

>>9793435
exactly what i wanted, thanks!

>>9793451
I wish Doom had a HUD like this. It has all of the necessary information laid out in a clear and concise way.

>>9792473
>ywn see Morgan Freeman play Gordon Freeman

>>9793490
"Be the change you want to see in the world"
- Steve "Tumblr" Wozniak

>>9793490
I'm pretty satsfied with doom HUD, though I suppose you'd like it to be transparent.

>>9792898
SM64 still has the only good fanmade N64 source port. There's one for OoT but it's missing extremely basic shit like an independent 4:3 option and there are some pretty glaring accuracy issues like music syncing. Who knows if these things will ever actually be addressed because development has been completely derailed by randomizer bullshit. The scene in general is full of dumb zoomers and troons. Be careful what you wish for.

>>9793532
Wait, SM64 has a source port? Tell me more...

>>9793490
DAKKA has a HUD kinda like this.

>>9792498
>kind hell levels
>consider posting rarely
>bagel krangs finish god
>hoo-ahh feature

>>9793179

How come you have to specify the map? Will that be fixed in the full release?

>>9792473
I would watch this

>>9793179

This looks sweet! Is there a readme yet? I'm keen to know who made which map and whatnot.

I'll play through this sometime in the near future but I can't do proper playtesting.

>>9793608
>Will that be fixed in the full release?
Nope.

how do i load DEH files with gzdoom? trying to run plutonia 2 and i get black textures

>>9793643

is there a technical limitation or something? It's a weird choice..

>>9793657
Most wads don't need DEH to be loaded with them unless you want to go on a weird archaic port.
You probably have black textures because you aren't using PLUTONIA.WAD as the IWAD.

>>9793663
>You probably have black textures because you aren't using PLUTONIA.WAD as the IWAD.
Ah,that was it, i am retarded

>>9793490
There's HUDs like that for GzDoom, it has a couple of ones available natively ('full screen'), and then you have HUD mods like Minimalist SBAR and NC-HUD, which even show the face if you want it.

If you prefer things a bit more oldschool, DSDA and Woof have something roughly comparable.

>>9793657
Plutonia 2 needs to be run with plutonia.wad as the iwad. You should get a program like DoomLauncher or something, which lets you load multiple files in one go with ease (particularly helpful if you wanna combine a gameplay mod and mapset). Point the launcher to where you keep you keep your iwads, where GzDoom's .exe is, and then you can just plain add any files you wanna play with.

So, you'd select PL2.wad (Plutonia 2), and then a prompt comes up, where you select GzDoom as your port, and then you can add Plutonia 2's .deh patch, then you hit play, the launcher will remember your selections the next time you select PL2.wad

GzDoom also has an Autoload folder, where you can put stuff like the Doom Sprite Fix mod, or a custom status bar mod, or player skin.

>>9793663
A lot of vanilla mapsets use .deh patches solely for automap level names, text intermissions, and PAR times, since the original .exe didn't let you alter that normally.
Not really critical or anything, and a lot of sets will embed the .deh file inside of the .wad because ports like GzDoom will read and apply it automatically. Sets from the 90s and very early 2000s would not do that though, so you'd still need to apply the patch in your load order for something like Alien Vendetta, Reverie, or Osiris TC.

>>9793715
Most modern wads that use them have dehacked patches bundled into themselves, that's why I said they only matter for archaic ports (Or very old wads)

>>9793179
Why specifically skill 0, will it goof up on anything higher?

>>9793490
I like the one from Crispy/Woof which is just the vanilla HUD with the background turned off.

>>9792842
It's not unreal though, anon.

It's Source.

>>9792473
They'd have to do some makeup and light prosthetics to make Gosling look more Freemanesque desu. I do love the idea of Nicky Cage being one of the HECUs, the idea of him saying something like "MY ASS IS HEAVY" in his voice is high-larious.

>>9793707
>>9793663
my brain was off and was loading it with DOOM2 (quickly taking a peek at map wads to decide what to delete/keep) and i messed up,thank you for the fix anons

>>9793769

>>9792984
>and they'll turn out a lot better
Wishful thinking, right. Unless someone gives a sign, I wouldn't expect a fresh batch of mapping crunch savants coming in any time soon. Any semblance of a team is in the past, if anything: it's the only person and he's in damage control now, bi-monthly is a dice throw. Nothing lasts in this universe.

Making more progress on my Sam map. Unfortunately it's a bunch of entity setup that I don't want to show because it'll spoil some things.

>>9792473
i recorded a short preview for my new strife map. based on conkers bad fur day multiplayer but not realy also
https://files.catbox.moe/ju8el4.mp4

>I will play these maps once i clear my backlog haha,any day now!
>backlog keeps getting bigger
How do i deal with this

>>9793868
close your browser and start playing them

>>9793868
get 2 it anon
>SHT8R

wow I can't believe it's finally out
and on compact disc no less

>>9793179
Trying this through Yamagi and holy shit:
>faster and smoother switching
>new/improved/missing enemy attacks
>great levels so far
Is there a full list of the gameplay changes? This has been great.

>>9792498
Where I can generate images like this?

>>9793919
https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html

>>9793868
start by throwing the speedmapping wads into the bin

>>9793868
why would you play all that shit? I just grab those rated the highest and play them over and over.

>>9793921
Thanks anon

>>9793932
No problem, have fun.

>>9793923
will do
>>9793929
would need to google each single one and see how the rates are,will take a day or two

>>9792474

Wad Scorecard v1.6 released - https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133645-wad-scorecard-v16now-in-dark-theme-a-spreadsheet-for-tracking-your-adventures-in-doom/

>>9793868
Check that link, it's helped me stay on top of my backlog a bit more but it won't help if you don't have enough time to playthrough everything you want to.

>>9794020
i will give it a check, thank

>Maze/labyrinth map in DOOM (think hunted from plutonia)
These maps make me physically ill, they are not challenging or interesting or 'spooky' just a boring walk simulator

>>9794025

If you were complaining about a maze level for Quake that would be acceptable but Doom has an bloody automap for those situations.

>>9794030
nta but it's not much of a maze if the automap for those sectors aren't hidden.

>>9793923
Ive never played doom speedmaps but ive played quake packs and there are some cool maps, or memorable at least. Just skip any map that doesnt seem worth playing.

>>9793810
If they're all noobs, I'm confident even 40oz could drive them to gradually improve. There's a lot of aspects of level design which are subjective, but a lot are objectively objective, and you can learn them.

>>9794025
Hunted fucking rules though, it's so goddamn sweaty and tense, but as you eliminate more and more viles, your confidence builds.

>>9794041
With something like Hunted, the challenge is less figuring out the maze itself, and more that you need to watch out and not slip up until you do.

I dont know who started to floating techbase/mountain/temple theme, but I cant get enough of it.

>>9794115
You'll dig this then.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/egyptoagula_final.html

it's amazing how no other FPS from the sector based era (for the lack of a better term) thought to include the map marking feature from doom

>>9794190
Considering how 95% of Doom players forget the feature exists, the developers probably did too.

>>9794190
I discovered very late that Thief let's you type on the maps. I was done with both games by then.

>>9794190
I didn't even know about it lol.

>>9794221
This neither. In Thief it would've been splendidly useful unlike Doom.

>>9794226
it's kind of a useless feature in the base iwads (and source ports since they just color everything anyways) but in games like blood it would've been a godsend

Is quake 2's silencer the most pointless/useless power up in fps?

>Level 6: Inferno of Blood
Fucking hell, that was Plutonia-tier difficulty. I did not expect that.
The arch-vile ambush is rather nasty; close-quarters, lots of other enemies and no BFG.

>>9794370
At least it's not Vivisection, which is a complete clusterfuck if you play from pistol start. It took me quite a few of tries before I finally got a good enough run to survive.

>>9793868
For starters, replace Temporal Tantrum 1.1 with the idgames release (1.31) - the link is in the news post.

>>9793909
Why is the railgun blue?

>>9794380
Vivisection isn't as difficult if you're playing continuous and not pistol start, though.

>>9794115
I love it too. Tears of the False God, Dancing in the Golden Sun, and Tellus Terminus are all god tier maps and look cool as shit.
>>9794154
Looks cool, but needs an old outdated mod to play and even then is very buggy.

>>9794386
In, particular, the nastiest trap in Vivisection, the red key trap, is trivialized by a simple strategy: there's a secret near the very beginning that lets you access an outside section with a shotgun guy, a chaingunner and a soul sphere. You just grab the red key than haul ass outside via that secret. The door closes behind you and the monsters can't open it. There's two windows through which you can see/shoot the monsters at this point. You can simply get them to infight by getting them to shoot at you through the windows, then take them out at no danger to yourself once they've thinned themselves out.
That archvile ambush in Inferno of Blood though, there's no easy way out of that shit. You're going to have to kill an archvile up close and personal, without a BFG, while tons of other monsters are swarming. Absolutely fucking nasty.

>>9794287
No, because Quake 1's Ring of Shadows exists.
>You will need to shoot stuff because its Quake
>The powerup only works if you don't shoot
I've seen it used effectively in maybe two maps, but both of them were Copper levels that used the mods changes to the ring anyway.

>>9794391
>but needs an old outdated mod to play
It comes with the mod. What does it matter if it's old or outdated? Do you also eschew maps based upon Quoth because Quoth is over 10 years old?
> even then is very buggy
Not at all. Very strange post I gotta say.

>>9794392
>In, particular, the nastiest trap in Vivisection, the red key trap, is trivialized by a simple strategy: there's a secret near the very beginning that lets you access an outside section with a shotgun guy, a chaingunner and a soul sphere.
Oh yeah, that secret may be the one of the only reasons you can survive that level at all from pistol start. You cannot survive without the resources that the outside has to offer. Berserk and RL in particular are essential. At least in PSX conversion that Master Edition has. I suppose in the original version they're just as important.

>>9794395
ty gook moot

>>9794391
>but needs an old outdated mod
wtf does that mean

>>9794395
>>9794406
Ah, then it's my computer basically dying on me again. Got it, I should have known.

>>9794410
No worries. Your post made you seem like some weirdo who wouldn't play old mods from a 25+ year old fps. Watch that.

>>9793194
>>9793401
>>9793636
Check the readme.txt in the .ZIP for details.

>>9793206
Please not yet, wait until it gets done.
It still has missing multiplayer maps and some other stuff needs to get addressed.

>>9793608
It's because it is technically a mod/missionpack of its own now. A bit more work will be needed to ensure smooth integration and use.

>>9793719
Good luck getting past the BFGladiators.

>>9793909
Thank you for testing.
There will be a complete list of changes in the readme.txt once it gets done.

>>9794415
I'm not surprised, I always somehow find the worst way to word things and either come across as an asshole or a retard.

>>9793389
Pretty much, yeah.

>>9792698
Wasn't DBP's numeration ruined already when some kid published his ULTRA TERMINATOR/ALIEN/PREDATOR/WHATEVER CROSSOVER under it's name?

Just noticed there's two barons wielding prosthetic cannon in left hand. One in top right shoots projectile from right hand. What timeline is this

>>9794654
Hell didn't get the funding for mass production of goatman sized armcannons, so you don't see any cyberbarons in the game,

>>9794418
Fix this in case of leaving at Current Projects so anons can bugtest.
Have you spoke with jehar and others about this too?

there has to be something up with engineering mania in alkaline, its so familiar but i can't put my finger on it.
i must have played a similar looking level before, but i don't remember it.

>>9794690
Not yet. There might still be some more issues to be addressed of the gameplay-balance.

>doomspeeddemos suddenly has x2 more viewers than usual
Bros... I'm scarred.

What are you meant to do in Telefragged once you set off the self destruct sequence? This level is so poorly designed I find it hard to believe people gave it high ratings.

>>9794881
I worked it out. Man that was a shitty and confusing ending to an otherwise good level. The mapper clearly likes Valve games from all the references in the level but he certainly didn't learn any of the setpiece design from them.

>>9793215
>>9793328

Thanks guys! I really hope they'll eventually make it into a finished product, I'll be sure to snag it.

>>9793179
cool I've been in a quake 2 mood, it's like u read my mind

That most recent Civvie video is fun.
I mean, he's getting excited over some pretty basic stuff but he also hasn't played Doom in forever so it's cool how more people are going to be getting into it.

>>9793868
Start by deleting masterlevels.wad

>>9793179
Idk how to run this :/

>>9795062
You put those in the shortcut/bat, anon.
Console commands don't use plus signs.

>>9794115
HUH, I like those slightly angled weapons.

>>9795075
Ok... but now my screen's all fucked up and I can't change the res :(

>>9795083
ok fixed. had to change video mode to auto. yay time to have phun.

>>9793868
akeldama, arrival, cchest4, jenesis, jpcp, no rest for the living, scythe, sigil, uac ultra, even whispers of satan are fine imo. rest i haven't played, is merely alright or kinda gay (slaughter, speedmaps). get to my level tho, my wad folder is 3.000 files 25 gb

>>9795026
you talking about his nerve.wad or his daily tiktoks?

>>9795220
What?

>>9795283
Yes.

>when you set up an entity wrong

>>9795318
Reminds me of that time I gave a shotgun infinite loop inside fire state.

>>9795318
Cool!

>>9795090
Keep in mind that the secret level isn't working, but you can complete the UNIT without it.

>>9794730
It's based on Engineering Mania from JJJ.

>>9795012
I've been on Quake 2 since 2017 now.
I just can't seem to stop.

>>9795062
>Yamagi Quake 2
How do you actually install this?
Everything I saw / googled just kinda was some weird github thing that you have to compile.

Obsessive Brick Disorder is still the GOAT quake map desu.

>>9795343
I went back to Quake 2 during December for the anniversary and it was better than I remembered.
All it really needs are muzzle flashes for the guns and the combat would be so much more satisfying. As it stands, most Quake 2 guns feel like plastic toys and it slightly ruins my enjoyment.

>>9795346
>How do you actually install this?
there were instructions provided dude. I just followed them. Maybe check the readme for installation? It was ages ago, get it from the yamagi quake 2 site (google)

>>9795349
I'm more into Foggy Bogbottom because I love the fantasy world fortress town feel and all the neat secrets that build up to getting a rune of power (and a surprise guest star in the form of Dopefish). I've played so much Quake in the last month but nothing so far has surpassed Arcane Dimensions for me.

i was told no one would challenge me to Quake, i believe it.

>>9795353
Muzzle flashes and less shitty looking explosions.
Higher tier enemies with the mobility of multiplayer bots would also be pretty cool but I guess can't ask for TOO much.

>>9795359
Fair enough, I guess I'll have to give it a go.

>>9795339
>JJJ
thank you so fucking much, i have shit memory but i knew i must have played a very similar level before.

>>9795353
>>9795389
>muzzles
Sorry, can't do much there. That's a client-side issue.
Yes, the mod can implement it, but it is way out of the scope.
As for enemy mobility, also way out of the scope... but who knows, maybe someone will do something with it later.

>>9795349
I thought I’d get the forth rune from Tears, was surprised it came from this place. The map felt classy but it’s in the bottom of the “didn’t like it as much as the others” list.
>>9795353
Mission 64 has fun tracers. I think I’d prefer those over just a muzzle flash. These days I’m typically focusing too much on the enemies to notice.

>>9795414
>Left handed blaster
This is so cursed.

>>9795415
Fun fact, you can tell what levels have the runes since their symbol is always on a block next to the entrance portal.

>>9795420
пoчeмy

>>9795423
Why did I read this like a line from a Cybershell video

>>9793540
anon...

>>9795420
Eh, it's kinda cool.
Like, it reminds me of one old-school HL mod.

>>9795537
Oh, the one with the terrorists in it that was based on ActionQuake 2 or something? I played the beta as a kid. I wonder what happened to it.

Making a movie theater level. What kind of music should I make to go with it? I'm fresh out of ideas.

>>9795586
Stalker by Lee Jackson.

>>9795613
Might as well

>>9795586
https://youtu.be/O0wOD9TWynM
https://youtu.be/lFedj_tDc3Q

Man Metroid Doom is amazing

>filtered vs non
I can't choose so I think I'm just going to create two different bindings for two seperate gl_texture settings, they both have their appeal. Also this first map on the last was sick, fighting the BFG glads is fun.
>>9795423
Hey, that actually is a fun fact nice.
>>9795702
Especially when the top of your visor hud gets cut off, my Base Profile brother.

>>9795710
Alas couldn't figure out a way to fix it. Just lived with it and barely noticed with how good the mod was

>>9795702
Isn't this just springboarding off Metroid Dreadnaught?

>>9795743
How is it sprinboarding off of Metroid Dreadnaught?

>>9795763
I haven't taken a look under the hood but I'm just assuming it takes assets and code from Dreadnaught and tries to do its own thing with middling results.

If I have a monster trigger something when gibbed, will it still trigger if I use something like Nugget's SSG/berserk gibs? How does that option affect demos?

>>9795702
Agreed.

>>9795779
>>9795702
Works on which sourceports?

How is the newer Dreadnought, anyway? Never tried it, the last time I looked it had this gross 3D model for the arm cannon so I just stuck with Term's.

>>9795791
Well, it's a Term mod being handled by some other peckerhead that's not Term, so it's safe to assume it's utter dogshit. All of his mods suffer when someone else tries to continue his work.

>>9793490
one of the QUADRILLON doom huds like that?

>Foreskin Remastered
>Smooth 144fps +
>Subtle jitter on movement
>Play with settings
>Realize its a Nightdive remaster and the jitter is permanent
Nightdive is bad tbdesu

>>9794418
>Good luck getting past the BFGladiators.
Okay yes ow they hurt, satisfying to fight though. Are they able to hurt themselves with their own BFG?

>>9795806
Tried it. Actually doesn't have the 3D cannon by default and the different cannon sprites have animations for the lights on them. Don't like the HUD though. The cannon charges a lot faster. I think the jumping was fixed so you can't infinitely walljump off nothing anymore.

>turn corner
>”MODERN OXEN FEAR BOOKS”
>lose precisely 42hp
what did they mean by this?

>>9795318
ship it

>>9796086
He fucked up the timing on the morph ball bombs and you can't do proper bomb jumps anymore.

>>9796089
>mobbadocks 'n fairy bucks...

>>9796194
>non-threatening cultist
what the fuck kind of devilry is this?

>>9796197
Not Blood difficulty customization
It's a good time

>>9796194
IN MARANA DOMUS BHAAVA CRUNATUS

>>9796232

>>9796194
>>9796197
>>9796216
>>9796232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDHJaiC2x6w

>>9796241

>>9796194
A flare blast would absolutely fuck you if they were accurate though.

>>9795860
but my youtubers and twitter circles say nightdive is based guys

It's too bad they didn't use alk for the brutalist jam, default/copper enemies feel like they don't quite fit in the aesthetic, but goddamn the levels are pretty

>>9796039
When do you get that weapon? Is my version fucked?

I'm on level 3 (going clockwise) and haven't got that or any grenade or rocket launcher yet.

No Rest for the Living was really good. Plutonia-like difficulty at times. I would not want to play it with a controller.

>>9796492
the devs knew that it would be leaked to PC soon after it came out (it was like a few days), so they were probably not stressed about it not going to PC day one or that it would be a bit too difficult for some controller players.

>>9793179
I'll try it once my ear canal infection stops making me randomly deaf for the most of day

>>9796039
>IONripper
Did you guys nerfed it to not make the other Cell weapons completely redundant?

>>9796535
Damn. Get well soon, anon.

>>9796398
IMO this neat map that almost feels straight out of Jedi Knight (2) needs an Alkaline remake badly

I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna play the Master Levels.

>>9796039
I think so but I actually don't know yet.

>>9796460
It seems there are some bugs that are being sorted out. I also could not find that gun and I got some missing entity-issues.
The RL is in the secret level.

>>9796540
I've yet to find it myself, so I guess it's as with the aforementioned issues. Investigation is ongoing.

>>9794287
Mostly yes, but suprize-railing several unaware mobs for 300dmg is almost a sexual experience

>gaming PC dies last year
>buy cheapo $400 prebuilt just to do work on
>plan to build new PC when GPU prices go down
>start playing DOOM on the cheapo prebuilt
>GPU prices have now been low for a long time and I still haven't built the new gaming PC because I've been having so much fun with DOOM that I've felt no need
I'll get around to building that new gaming PC one of these days. Maybe.

>>9793909
>TFW a random meaty chunk of sternum got stuck to the mainframe console and started spinning forever AGAIN
Is this how the Torso Stations got invented?

>>9796194

>>9796492
I've played Plutonia with Brutal mod on a controller with Delta-Touch. On the lowest difficulty though, but it was a lot of fun. Not being able to turn instantly adds a nice layer of challenge.

>>9796569
I guess so.

>>9796563
>>plan to build new PC when GPU prices go down

>>9796663
do the Barracuda-Shark got it's unused tail-slap attack animation back?

>>9796492
Played it with one on my phone a few years back, but I also grew up with keyboard aiming which is kind of the same thing. I have to give the Unity port props for sticking with infinite monster heights.
>>9796398
>default enemies feel like they don't quite fit in the aesthetic
Shouldn't the Alk mdls be easy to transfer into it? I may try that myself later.
>>9796550
>>9796540
The ripper dealt some damage to the tanks in Unitest for sure. I'm going to try the secret level again, I think it crashed last night last I tried.

>>9796867
>>9796550
Yeah it goofed for me still. I'm missing these things, did I fug up the install?

I swear there was at least one Quake2 custom map that turned this Viper model into a brush, but I honestly cannot remember their name

>>9796398
This was fun. I'm also using Alkaline's "mind controlled" fiends, brought over the shambler from AD and that one guy, and I'll figure out the best knights to use. I've never played the set before, so far so good.

how 2 doom on linux?

>>9793179
>try dancing with a berserker to pick it off before I get to the actual threats
>it starts doing that one club swinging animation
I'm gonna be in for something good

>>9797065
Same as you would on Windows. Basically every source port either provides Linux binaries or has step-by-step instructions for compiling it yourself. You can either use a GUI launcher like qZDL or write up simple bash scripts to make loading mods easier.

>sudden BFGlad at low health
spooky, fuck
These guys are so much more fun to fight than those beta gladiators

>>9797149
The beta class shields in the Reckoning were essentially cosmetic and didn't do anything besides give more health. Is it the same here?

>>9797149
Why Quake 2 is not awful and not great but just good and solid? Its like Rage

>>9797186
no romero, no sandy, no mcgee

>>9797190
>no mcgee
Q2 shitposters don't even do their research properly. McGee did the Warehouse and Factory unit.

>attempt to organize wads and pk3s
>become sprawling clusterfuck of files
Should I recognize my limits and just dump them all into a single folder?

>>9792570
I know the pain, can't get quake to run well sometimes either

>>9794025
lmao brainlet

What's the best Alpha-themed Doom mod in your guys' opinion?

>>9794025
You know you just gave me an idea for my next map:

Make a "maze" where at a specific turn you walk into a silent teleporter or something that always brings you back to a spot before than turn, so that if you're a retard (like you) or don't use the map you will just keep running around in circles.

>>9797237
No, transcend your limits, become an organizational god

>>9794971
Pardon me if this sounds raunchy and OT.. but would you happen to know if theres any fan art of Shelly packing some "meat heat" in between her thighs? I know this board is SFW so a yes or no will suffice.

>>9797349
Wait, you want to know if there is a picture of Shelly swingin around a big slammin futa cock? Why, this is the internet anon. No need to be coy.

>>9797149
Oh wow, I had some horrible expectations for that fight, as I got decimated in milliseconds doing it, and wondered if I should revert to the enemy there being a Brain like it was earlier.

>>9797168
This is sort of the same here, yes.

>>9797186
Well, it's just Quake with coloured lights and some enemy class changes and additions, coupled with the best movement in any Quake-game that set the bar for every Quake-game after it. Admittedly it is still flawed in some regards, but this mod seeketh to fix at least one of the woes with weaponswitching.

>>9796867
>>9796886
The .ZIP is constantly updated.
Those textures are not needed for this release, so weird that they are still mentioned.

>>9797082
Well, so far 12 people have participated on this UNIT, and more programmers than id had at the time than when they released it.
I hope it will be worth it, but do keep in mind this is not entirely done yet, as some balancing is left to be done.

>>9797349

>>9797328
Doom Delta has done a good job implementing features proposed in the Doom Bible.

I liked Grey Dwarf

>>9797386
What game are you referring to?

>>9797367
>The .ZIP is constantly updated.
>Those textures are not needed for this release, so weird that they are still mentioned.
I'll check the newest zip, maybe even try a fresh Quake 2 install because I've got a messy folder for it right now. Haven't ran into any other issues.
>>9797449
An Ancient Aliens map. I like it too.

>>9797467
I have (at least) two Quake 2-folders on my drives. One is for testing and the other is for Steam.

>>9797517
Surprising no one, a fresher install fixed it. Now for that launcher!

Testing another boss concept, this one requires a specifically arrange arena for its gimmick to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2K6ampgA0

I'm using invisible platform as cover so you can see what Captain Bonehead is up to.

>>9797186
>good and solid
>Rage

>>9797386
>>9797467
Ah it's some youtuber thing, probably. Yeah, I recall liking it too. A tad bit long, just a tad bit, but I have a thing for the oppressive feel these desolate labyrinthian bases with little to no landmarks subject myself to, and that ostinato rhythm of the midi too to bob my head during these endless trips for the vital level exit. Although it's particularly nice that there were no other maps like it, else my lasting impression of it would've been soured.

What do I type in the YamagiQ2 console to force a resolution change if the default 480x320 resolution makes any menu options get shoved out of bounds from my display?

>>9797592
r_customheight and r_customwidth with your resolution, and I think r_mode has to be -1.

In Hideous Destructor how do you remove rounds from 7.76 clips? Don't have the actual rifle

>>9797615
>game crashes
>'no usable rendered found!'
Should I just copy the default cfg from baseq2 to fix it?

>>9797664
Open the mag manager and press firemode+fire/altfire until it selects the clips.

>>9797670
Maybe, though it could be the config in documents/yamagiq2.

>>9792473
whats the best quake play. should i just buy it off steam? i only ever remember having a cd of quake 1 and 2 when i was a kid so have no idea which veriosn is the best to play. sry for retarded question

>>9797702
Thanks!

you're all lucky my internet keeps going out today or i would school you in Quake

>>9797532
>this one requires a specifically arrange arena for its gimmick to work
You mean a high ceiling, or something else? Does the enemy have to lose line-of-sight before he can lob a grenade?

>>9797705
A lot of people seem to like the first quake a bit better but they both have very different feels and mods, way different compared to the jump from Doom I and Doom II which was more of an expansion pack (granted, one that added a lot of important stuff). Watch some youtube coop/singleplayer playthroughs for a bit and see if you like how they play, or DM videos if that's your style.

I never got into Quake1 much because my computer sucked at the time. Only got into Quake 2 after cable internet and 3dfx voodoo came around. Much good times in online CTF and coop at home.

>>9797716
Low and relatively thin cover, mostly. High ceiling is option since the grenade going up is not a projectile.
It does lob a grenade if it loses target while chaingunning, though it also has a small chance to lob it after each walk cycle.

>>9797718
I don't remember Comm Satellite looking like this.

>>9797710
Also, when you have the mag manager open, picking up a mag off of the ground will automatically select its type for management.

Megawad vs level pack.
Whats the difference?

>>9797761
Megawads are bigger.

>>9797761
Megawad specifically denotes a wad containing over 15 maps.

Just played a bit of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEKWgy8rQM4 and I gotta say it's pretty amusing how overboard it goes with everything.

>>9797110
I have zero knowledge in programming, I just wanna play GZDoom on my shitty Chromebook as opposed to crisp and chocolate doom which are fucking stupid

>>9797791
Are you using an actual distro that's not ChromeOS? GZDoom provides .deb packages if you're on something debian-based or have a way to extract them. Otherwise, the compiling instructions are here: https://zdoom.org/wiki/Compile_GZDoom_on_Linux
You don't need to know anything about programming, just copy and run the commands. If you are on ChromeOS, then as far as I know that's Gentoo-based, so try the instructions for that.

>>9797751
Dying in midair and respawning messes up the physics and leaves the player body stuck in midair. Low G is both cool and awful,

Time for Kartan, WNW is up.
Base game (1.3):
https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/tag/v1.3
Custom client:
https://mega.nz/file/ncpRjRYZ#yoVkgXmKNUjdh__jHpmUGgh30J7jlj6RIS8XjbTXKeE
https://gitlab.com/c3851/srb-2-k-cep
Mods list:
https://mega.nz/folder/YA1gEaZI#ORB7j-vSJ9IHaGnJGEQm7g
Anon's PRO TIPS paste:
https://pastebin.com/90aWy0EF

>JOINING THE GAME
From the title screen, go to multiplayer, specify IPV4 address, and enter 51.161.34.159

New files are located in the Update 3-29-2023 folder (Yeah, still.)

We also have a mumble server up to voice chat with your fellow anons
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Username: Whatever you want
Password: endoom
>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

>>9797770
What are your dream MegaWADS 4/vr/?
For me its either a
>Transformers themed total conversion of Ultimate Doom based mostly on G1 lore with bits of Prime where you can choose to play on the side of either the Autobots or Deceptions.
OR
>Graphics and Sound overhaul similar to that of Simpsons Doom where you are DoomGuy shooting and punching the fuck out of characters from the garbage-poor show Rick and Morty, as well as some of the cast and crew being featured as bosses, such as Roiland being the CyberDemon
OR
>A TC of Ultimate Doom where you are a US Soldier who was left behind in Afghanistan, and you have to fight your way no matter the cost to butcher the Taliban to lifeless pieces of flesh and bone, along with their respective CIA operative ratfink asshole Glownigger weaselfucks, complete with the maps of Phobos, Deimos and Hell being changed to regions of Afghanistan, Western Pakistan, and St. James Island (the latter being the final Episode, where you fight Kabbalistic Zhids and their puppets).

>>9797615
You destroyed all the railings!

>>9797564
Eh, I hated it.
It's also shitty that the mapper decided to throw his toys out of the pram while a bunch of people raged about a certain youtuber while said youtuber actually felt the need to APOLOGISE for disliking his shitty map.

>>9797718
Devil girls?

>>9797936
Oh holy shit
>>9797940
There's lots of things you can play as in Q2

>>9797938
The Doom and Quake community have been overrun with people who can't handle criticism and believe anything that isn't glowing praise is "toxic".
It's how we've ended up with the current state of the bigger forums, and why this place remains my go-to for retro shooter discussion. People here aren't afraid to tell it like they see it.

What wad you playing tonight /vr/?

>>9798019
I might join you in playing 400min. I don't think I ever finished it.

>>9798019
Still on Quake at the moment, just finished all the main Rubicon mods.
Going to try Honey, since it's so highly rated and it looks really cool.

>>9798019
Is that Babel?

>>9798019
why he purple

>>9798019
Was gonna go through the top wads from 90s, but think this idea might be one of those things that sound better on paper

>>9798026
>Honey
booo

>>9798019
I've been jumping between Alkaline and Arcane Dimensions, although I'm gonna stick to Alkaline for the moment.

>>9797980
Ironically they become incredibly "toxic" themselves towards people that share blunt/negative views or just fall out of their clique.

>>9792473

What is Health RC2 - https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=228325

I'm actually shocked at how well this wad turned out. I didn't expect 1hp to be so fun to play and the mappers to be able to play to the gimmick as well as they did.

If you want a taste and to see what the gameplay is like I highly recommend trying out MAP11 by SuyaSS. It's so frantic but doable, really pumps up the adrenaline and feels so satisfying to survive.

>>9794025
Mazes would be more entertaining if they had script mechanisms to spawn things behind you out of sight in the maze. Teleport them in silently. Make them deaf but have them walk around.

>>9796592
Best f_sky but that be doom 1, not plutonia.

>>9797894
The Transformers one could be cool. Second is a throwaway gimmick shit, third sounds like something Timothy Brown would cook up.

Somebody mentioned last halloween I think that there should be a /vr/ project where every map is themed after an /x/ topic, like a UFO map, a ghost map, tulpa map, yeti map, etc. Not sure how that would work but it's a neat idea.

>>9798025
This is 200min actually, I'm just using the HUD from 400mins

>>9798028
Yes.

>>9798051
Colorful Hell mod, though I just noticed it messes with Babel's enemy rally mechanic. Might press on anyway.

>>9793179
This was great all the way through. I'll keep checking in with it as it gets updated. There was a point a bunch of rocks fell on me and they just rendered as a bunch of grey cubes, but other than that I can't recall any major issues.
I was also surprised by these gameplay changes, they're great. I was just expecting a bunch of cool levels but now I get to see how it functions with vanilla maps.
>>9798019
I might check out that Brutalist jampack now, or take a Quake-break and go back to my Strange Aeons HNDrifter playthrough,

>>9798161
Who is Timothy Brown, BTW?

>>9798149
Easily doable in Boom and MBF21

>>9797715
are you asking me to go on a... Quake Date with you?

>>9793179
Might just be on my end, but Iron Maidens and their gibs aren't having their models rendered, so it's falling back to the default cube.

>>9792473
>Release massive update to my wad
>Ask people specifically to respect it vanilla aspects and ask someone to record it UVMax for the checklist
>99% of videos on youtube are walkthroughs with brutal doom forks, upscaled PBR textures and... and even a fucking Hideous Destructor lately, of course the intricate lighting effects I manually set up on all maps are irreversibly ruined
I'm gonna write to Enraged Eggplant to ask him to record a walkthrough of my wad, I can't take it anymore.

>>9798397
>that pic
Cat is not a bread you vicious freaks.

>>9798402
You're right, it's a baked potato.

>>9798409
Ahaha fucking hell

>>9797883
That's all folks.

>>9797883
I didn't forget the replays, but catbox is shitting itself.
Here's a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lc786gum9xaxm5/replays.zip?dl=0

>>9798452
is that gif supposed to abruptly halt

>>9797349
damn, this anon sounds raunchy as fuck

>>9798489
yeah, it's over

>>9798019
Auger Zeith

How to use the Harmony WAD from the Unity Version in other ports? I tried out in Crispy and it seems to play fine, but the map names are wrong, is there a separate DEH file?

>>9798720
nvm, seems someone already went through the effort, here it is for anyone that may want it too

pixeldrain dot com slash u slash mAUGZ5Rp

>>9793179
The Water Silo needs to be reworked a little in terms of difficulty. At least if my game is actually correct.

There's 86 enemies right? Im playing on Hard+ and it was very easy. There were like 7 armors in that one level alike and insane amounts of ammo.

And I suck at this game. I'm not trying to say I'm a leet epic gamer. Or maybe it's cus I have two kinds of power armor actually.

P.s holy shit that wreckage difficulty spike

>can place chain gun on ground as a turret
I'm gonna have to write that one down. It's a good alt fire idea for a chain gun. And the chain guns have more than enough ammo to make it work as a trap/placeable ally.

>>9798798
PERFECT DARK DID IT

>>9798817
Yeah but the levels didn't have enough enemies in it or backtracking to justify using the secondary that much and I remember it running out of ammo too quickly. Also it was only available on a couple maps without cheats and since it was so rare ammo for it was a bitch to find. Laptop Gun was better used as a rifle. Cool secondary but the rest of the game didn't support it aside from multiplayer.

>>9797704
That doesn't solve anything unfortunately - now the mod is borked and refuses to launch in Yq2
I could just play it in AprQ2 but I dunno if it's fully compatible - I will download the latest KMQ2 just to check if it accepts the mod without issues (readme says that it was tested with it in mind tho)
I see that the Shockwave is still broken by missing entity gfx

>some mad lad wants to port Centurions into /VR/2.0
What flavour, spikey or zappy?

>>9798397
>I'm gonna write to Enraged Eggplant to ask him to record a walkthrough of my wad, I can't take it anymore.
What's the wad?

>>9797816
I created a Linux container that can run Linux program. But when I followed the instruction for installing flatpak to then install GZDoom there was some BS error and I have no fucking clue how to resolve it
I'll try this guide but I have a feeling...

>>9798397
If you wanna do something, do it yourself. I would say that asking people to "respest vanilla aspects" of your WAD is a lost cause since they would immediately scream "don't tell me how to play the game" and "you should be thankful we're playing it at all" the moment you start to push this argument further.
And yeah, you should've shared the update here (in case you didn't).

>>9798482
ggs

>>9797816
>https://zdoom.org/wiki/Compile_GZDoom_on_Linux

>Download the GZDoom source and create an out of tree build directory:
> cd ~/gzdoom_build &&
> git clone git://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom.git &&
> mkdir -pv gzdoom/build
This is where the guide stops working.
> fatal: unable to connect to github.com:
> github.com[0: 140.82.121.4]: errno=Connection timed out

>>9798397
I tried to tell the guy that did the HD videos about your intended lighting, apparently his GPU doesn't support shadowmaps. I wouldn't have even recommended the maps to him if I knew he was going to fuck it up.

For what it's worth, I love your lighting work, this is one of the best-looking wads I've played in a long time. I think it's even more striking without the glow that you put on the player in vanilla. Ultimately, you can't reasonably expect people to not play a GZDoom-targeted wad with gameplay mods.

>>9798852
I assume Zero Brightness is the wad being talked about here.
>>9798248
schizo map maker. has a youtube channel and doomwiki page

>>9797186
Rage is great tho

>>9792473
Posting all the D64 mods i currently find playable,some update daily

>>GZDoom compatible
>D64 Vanilla
https://tpu540059.itch.io/d64revanilla

>Brutal DOOM 64 (Has custom enemies in the settings)
https://mega.nz/folder/AtsgQL7K#uqIcrVz6KXT5w5dW8DSlww

>D64 corefier (Use randomspawner file for custom enemies)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RgkTiCZn-Z5fZNKKWRa8C6asVszYqZ8X

>D64 textures
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76856

>D64 music
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-d64ifier/addons/d64ifier-music-v0-90

>>Total conversion,Needs Doom64 ROM and doom2 wad for the addons
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce

>>Standalone engine,needs Doom64 ROM (has custom monsters in the settings menu)
https://github.com/Styd051/DOOM64-Super-EX-Plus/releases

>Extra maps for the above
https://www.moddb.com/members/atsb/downloads

>>9798019
Tried to play ABSCISSION yesterday. I like my wads going for dark/moody/atmospheric/horror, but it was so sunny I couldn't see shit on my screen lmao. Had to wait until evening.
Really liked the wad so far (got to MAP17), though I'm not sure what to think about second secret level. I knew someone would eventually make a map based around blockmap bug, and here we are. Running around helpless & avoiding archies until you find damaging exit sector. Eh, at least the map name, combined with trippy visuals, is cool - Bed of Creation.
Also the soundtrack is sick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mWXvWGTXgE

>halfway into a mapset
>see custom enemy
>close game and delete mapset

>>9798397
i don't record myself playing video games, but I'll play it vanilla.

>>9799185
same if I am being honest

>>9798124
What's wrong with Honey? I thought it was okay.
The Warden, a recent release on Quaddicted that uses the same textures was much better in my opinion, but I still love the atmosphere of some mysterious giant underground medieval structure.

>>9799336
Nta, but if you want more like "Honey" and "The Warden", I highly recommend
>Down the Gutter (https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/plaw01.html))
>I Don't Mind If Your Hands Are Cold & The Rats in the Walls & Vendricks' Viaduct from the Honey Jam (https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/func_mapjam1.html))
>Jump (https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/jump.html))
>Primo (https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/primo_1.1.0.html))
>The Mire (from Arcane Dimensions)
The cistern is one of my favorite themes. I love large-scale maps that seem like they go on forever, even if the actual gameplay space is small.

I like simpsons doom

>>9799368
Thanks for the recommendations! I've already played all of AD so I knew about The Mire, but most of these look fantastic.
Cistern themed maps are really cool, I especially love the impossible giant chains everywhere that make it feel like you've stumbled on some ancient Dwarven ruins or maybe just a plain old Lovecraftian forgotten city.

>>9798135
Yeah, seeing that thread shit on decino and his "kiddy" fans for having a negative opinion on a famously boring level left a bad taste in my mouth.
I was actually feeling bad for the mapper until I saw the thread acting like the level was a masterpiece and all the haters were literal children who have never played it.
I've played the map, it's a boring slog even if you don't give a shit about secret hunting. It's okay to dislike things!

>>9799386
Yeah, it's a great theme, hopefully we'll see more of it in the future. As to why that anon may have boo'ed at Honey, I don't know, but the reason Honey is so highly regarded is that it started this particular trend (which is why that jam is called the Honey jam) and while I don't dislike it, it is outclassed its imitators. Much like how Rubicon 1 is kind of underwhelming compared to everything that comes afterward that uses the Rubicon theme. This is true for a lot of other popular themes like Koohoo and Knave.

Where did the meme that retro FPS OSTs must be metal come from? The only one I can think of that has any metal at all is DOOM, and it's pretty scarce there, but if you ask a normie what a retro FPS OST sounds like or should sound like they'll always go for metal.

>>9799461
>The only one I can think of that has any metal at all is DOOM
Then you haven't thought about it at all because Quake and Quake 2 are also metal

>>9799461
Quake 2?
Honestly, zero idea. Probably from Doom (2016), just like the meme that retro FPS must be no-plot combat focused shit.

>>9799336
>What's wrong with Honey?
Nothing, I was referencing the ending

>>9799461
I guess it comes from Doom 1 and 2 plus Quake 2, even though significant chunks of soundtracks of these games were genres other than metal.

>>9797894
Ideally I'd love for it to be a third person shooter / melee fighter with physics but I've in the recent years become enthralled by the idea of busty female "zako" commandos and henchwomen fighting female and male opponents, killing, imprisoning and executing each other in ryona style. Maybe not "DOOM" as a base, but something like Build Engine if the developers were as competent as Voidpoint or something in the style of AMC TC where you have your own base and can switch between protagonists etc.

But I think all the things I would ideally want in the game including grappling, melee fighting, sneaking, choking / neck snapping etc would require it to be done in 3d, with physics and all.

Maybe for a straight up shooty game I'd like something thematically like Soldier of Fortune, but with busty commando girls and cartoonishly evil bad guys, terrorists, nazis, gommies etc, some of them with their own hot henchwomen etc. Intermission screens with artwork would deliver story etc.

Another idea I would love would be a return to Redneck Rampage, but with larger emphasis on a story involving conspiracies, deep south nuttery, glowy CIA agents and then later aliens come into the picture but in a big mismash of Deep South tropes, cultural references, Leatherface, X-Files stuff etc.

I like your third idea for sure, feels quite Soldier of Fortune-ish.

>>9797335
I think I remember a map where something similar happens but using one-sided midtex. Like you enter a big looping section and don't realize how to get out because the way you came in looks like a wall from the inside. Pretty sure it was in a jokewad, maybe Mock 2.

>>9797718
Where / what mod are these hot succubi from?

>>9797349
I'm not into futa but if I happen to find out, I'll inform you. There's a sad lack of Shelly fan art in general, both sfw and nsfw.

>>9799089
Bless you for posting this. I've recently gotten into Doom 64 so this is a useful heads-up.

>>9799485
>Another idea I would love would be a return to Redneck Rampage, but with larger emphasis on a story involving conspiracies, deep south nuttery, glowy CIA agents and then later aliens come into the picture but in a big mismash of Deep South tropes, cultural references, Leatherface, X-Files stuff etc.
So you want Fallout 3: Point Lookout

>>9799513
I guess... but not in Fallout 3.

>>9799461
The initial tracks to each episode, and the main menu music for the Quakes, should be enough to fuel the misconceptions about it. There’s likely still a sizable amount of people out there that think Doom didn’t have mouse support in 93 despite the options in game, through the setup exe, Romero’s own demo when you wait at the menu screen, and Wolf3D having support for it.

>>9799526
I wonder how many people think "At Doom's Gate" is "The Doom Theme"

>>9799467
Have you ever played Quake 1

>>9799536
Quake 1 is post-industrial metal, which is still metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgyjCCMbWlY
The top comment in this says it reminds them of Doom 2016.

>>9799461
I just wanna add, gaming is at its best when you get to hear groovy tunes like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5kjih56qpk
Doom 2 still sucks though.

>>9799546
>>9799554

I do love metal tracks for some of these games like Quake etc, but I'd also love to see return of some more Lee Jackson-like stuff.

For some reason, Civvie11's comment on one of his Duke Nukem 3d vids stuck with me, something about the "assault of the fat commander" about how it was perfect tone setter for the "Verhoeven-esque brutal street combat" and that really made me think that yeah, I do love the metal but the throwback FPS tracks could definitely explore different tracks as well.

>>9799554
For me, atmospheric is the way to go, at least when playing Quake
https://files.catbox.moe/fg30hv.mp3

>>9797615
I fixed the problem by renaming the folder and deleting the old configs residing in it - but totally forgot that Yamagi is fucked on my end and won't let me take screenshots, and Q2pro is a PoS that won't allow me to save games also KMQ2 needs a custom .dll as expected - v3.21 it is then as usual. . .

>>9799461
Doom and Doom 2 used a lot of metal and rock music, and also some metal album cover aesthetics. Quake sort of had a metal opening theme, Quake 2 was mostly rock and metal music. Duke Nukem 3D had a rocking intro theme, even though most of the music in that game is a lot more somber or moody, it's a very memorable one.
Doom 3 had a sick metal intro theme, and no other music. Doom 4 sorta, kinda, has some kind of metal-ish thing going on?

There is no point in trying to make a Quake level. If I ever see another brush I am going to be sick.

>>9799625
You asked for it

>>9799625
hey wanna make a map for serious sam?

>>9799461
>Where did the meme that retro FPS OSTs must be metal come from?
The one that started it all, probably? Rise of the Triad remake/reboot from 2013. DOOM 16 and other old/classic titles definitely played a huge part (as other anons have mentioned, but I don't want to just repeat the same thing) in it, most likely even moreso than RoTT 13.
>>9799625
>If I ever see another brush I am going to be sick.
Okay. Here's Mario with real brush, thank me later.

>>9795318
anon, there is something very wrong with clock tower and latest vkquake

>>9799585
So now please excuse me for a moment

anyone wanna play some doom? like right fucking meow? I am on odamex some random server

Any idea what rifle the Doomguy and Zombieman sprites are holding?

>>9799662
its not a rifle
join me >>9799660 and I will tell u

>>9799662
I'm assuming it's a generic one which Adrian sculpted/made. No idea if the gun was also made out of clay, or if maybe he whittled that out of wood or something, it's not on any of the pictures of the clay models, but they were also really fragile back when they were actually using them, so that part could have been lost.

Potentially, the gun is drawn on in post. My rationale being that they posed his hands and arms in a way which sorta fit for holding a gun, and then added it in after, hence why it looks awkward and elongated. That's just speculating though, and it could simply look the way it does simply because none of them were gun guys and they just drew something which looked kinda right to them, like so many other times.

>>9799659
>that message
yep, it's a quakeulf map alright

>>9799662
The UAC assault rifle, of course!
But really, I don't think it's any particular "modern rifle" even if the carry handle on top makes me think it's a bit M16-y.

The mangled garbage they had in DOOM3 was a complete abomination though.

>>9799625
low energy

>>9799674
Low energy is making Quake 1 levels, when you could make RtCW, JK2 or even HL ones.

>>9799681
I thought you had something against brushes

>>9799546
Yes youtube commenters are typically experts in their field

>>9799681
But those are all inferior games.

>>9799681
Ive made levels for non-Id games and the sad thing is almost nobody plays them. I dont make things to be popular, but it sucks spending like 30 hours working on a level only for a few dozen downloads.

>>9799535
I’d imagine it’s at least as big as the amount of people thinking the “shoot at it until it dies” article is a legit old 90s article. There’s likely tons of misconceptions like this with other major IPs, this is just what I’ve been exposed to as someone who likes Doom.

>>9799686
I mean, if you would count Malice as Quake, I can almost see your point, but the base Quake is only better for speedruns and duels.

>>9799706
>I’d imagine it’s at least as big as the amount of people thinking the “shoot at it until it dies” article is a legit old 90s article.
It's not?
To be fair there were some pretty weird articles that were real. Like this one that also calls the SSG the "ninja shotgun".

>>9799715
It's not real, I was severely disappointed when I found out.

>>9799721
Works like that on my gk404ymachine

>>9799715
>"ninja shotgun"
I remember that.
Who the hell sees the SSG and thinks it has anything to do with ninjas? Maybe journalists have always been really stupid and we just never really cared until recently.

>>9799715
>It's not?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Protip_meme
The subtle yet biggest takeaway are the Zdoom-engine scorchmarks.

>>9799637
Can you be more specific? I just booted it up and didn't see anything wrong with the starting well (per your screenshot) beyond the unavoidably weird collision that it's always had.

>>9799745
Something about that map tanks my FPS with both Vkquake and Ironwail. I can’t speak for >>9799637 but mine didn’t use to be like this when I first played it awhile ago, so maybe some computer updates just fucked my shit up?

It's interesting when Quake mods add a chainsaw because the series technically has its equivalent being the gauntlet from Q3
Which would also be like if most Doom mods have add a rail gun suddenly update to make it based off the Gauss cannon from Doom 16 just because "now Doom has an official equivalent of it"
How can a "MetaQuake" work?